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To include my family or not in the application? Difference between 189 and 190

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WantToMigrateWantToMigrate Hong kongTotal Reaction Points: 0Member
Need ko po ng advice. Ang circumstances ko at ng family ko ay maayos naman dito sa HK, I earn annually converted na ay 84,000 AUD. My tax is around 1200 AUD per year only.
Free education for my 3 year old son. Free health care din naman dito HK(pero not high quality).

Nag apply ako ng 189 visa pero ang gusto ko sana if ever ay itry muna ako mag isa magka visa.
Then hanap work sa Australia pero I won't resign here in HK magleleave lang ako.
If makahanap, then I will apply the visa for my family(they will stay in HK until then).
Another option ko ay include them sa visa application ko right now pero medyo magastos.

Ang concern ko po ay ung duration ng application ng visa ng family ko if ever na mauna ko kumuha ng visa ko. Matagal ba bago ko sila makuha?

May difference ba kung 190 visa kunin vs 189 in terms of visa application for my family?
Ano po ba ang magandang strategy dito?
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  • heycoachputmeinheycoachputmein australiaTotal Reaction Points: 11Member
    Posts: 40
    when you apply for a permanent visa, you will be asked to provide a list of non-traveling dependents.
    when you have been granted a permanent visa and have decided to bring your family in AU, the AU Immi will use the list you provided in your previous application as their basis.

    Matagal ba? yes, because they will have to undergo medical (if required), provide documents etc etc. I-add mo pa yung 'standard processing times' ng AU immi then will be for a significant amount of time.

    diff between 190 vs 189 in terms of your family's visa applications? NONE as far as I know.
    WantToMigrate cucci
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  • jenlarajenlara ManilaTotal Reaction Points: 0Member
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    Considered po ba ang parent (mom) na 60y/o retired from govt institution? How many years po kaya ang process and what kind of visa need iapply? Thankyouu!
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  • batmanbatman Gotham CityTotal Reaction Points: 270Member, Moderator
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    @WantToMigrate just an opinion/comment:

    if you are interested to migrate make sure you have concrete reason why. once you started your plan theres no looking back. pero kong nanghihinanyang ka sa maiiwan mong kinikita baka di kapa ganun ka decided.

    I don't think its a good idea na leave muna tpos hanap work kasi yung eagerness mo na maka hanap ng work doon wont be 100% kasi alam mo may babalikan ka pa. this just my opinion din. since gumastos ka na kumuha ng PR visa focus ka na sa new life in new location.

    better kasama na family sa application. pede naman sila maiwan pero with visa na. if yun ang plano nyo.

    189 and 190 same process and requirements. afaik.

    try consult professionals (agents) to get also professional advice on top of information here.

    221213 External Auditor|489 - 70pts - SS NT
    01|12|15 - Applied visit visa online
    16|05|16 - Visited Sydney (decided to pursue migration plans)
    21|07|16 - Applied CPAA membership assessment
    31|07|16 - PTE-A L|S|W|R (73|79|78|77)
    01|08|16 - Submitted CPAA migration assessment
    01|08|16 - CPAA qualified as Associate member
    16|09|16 - EOI updated, decreased by 5 pts.(age)
    20|09|17 - EOI 190 - NT (delayed due to show money req.)
    - collating requirements for NT SS application
    18|10|17 - Submitted NT SS application (praying for + result)
    18|04|18 - Expected to get NT feedback on my application
    24|04|18 - 190 not successful,
    - was offered 489 instead and accepted offer
    - engaged with agent for visa application submission.
    26|04|18 - Invited to apply for SS visa 489 - Northern Territory
    02|05|18 - PCC - KSA processing
    20|05|18 - Medical
    06|06|18 - Visa payment




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  • AustralianDreamVisaAustralianDreamVisa AustraliaTotal Reaction Points: 5Member
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    jenlara said:

    Considered po ba ang parent (mom) na 60y/o retired from govt institution? How many years po kaya ang process and what kind of visa need iapply? Thankyouu!

    Are you planning to include your mom as a dependent in your visa application? or do you already have a visa and looking for visa options for your mom?
    Registered Migration Agent
    MARN 1796650

    Australian Dream Visa
    Migration | Education | Business Solutions Specialists
    https://australiandreamvisa.com
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  • AustralianDreamVisaAustralianDreamVisa AustraliaTotal Reaction Points: 5Member
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    Need ko po ng advice. Ang circumstances ko at ng family ko ay maayos naman dito sa HK, I earn annually converted na ay 84,000 AUD. My tax is around 1200 AUD per year only.
    Free education for my 3 year old son. Free health care din naman dito HK(pero not high quality).

    Nag apply ako ng 189 visa pero ang gusto ko sana if ever ay itry muna ako mag isa magka visa.
    Then hanap work sa Australia pero I won't resign here in HK magleleave lang ako.
    If makahanap, then I will apply the visa for my family(they will stay in HK until then).
    Another option ko ay include them sa visa application ko right now pero medyo magastos.

    Ang concern ko po ay ung duration ng application ng visa ng family ko if ever na mauna ko kumuha ng visa ko. Matagal ba bago ko sila makuha?

    May difference ba kung 190 visa kunin vs 189 in terms of visa application for my family?
    Ano po ba ang magandang strategy dito?

    tama si @batman, walang difference and 190 at 189 in terms of family.

    For me, its better to include them in your application now. It will be more costly and the pathway to PR for your wife and kid will be longer if you include them later on. Partner application costs ~7k tapos processing time is more or less 2 years Temporary visa pa lang un. while if you qualify for 189/190 now you can include them as dependents for ~3k AUD (wife + kid)

    Registered Migration Agent
    MARN 1796650

    Australian Dream Visa
    Migration | Education | Business Solutions Specialists
    https://australiandreamvisa.com
    WantToMigrate
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  • mhejmhej SydneyTotal Reaction Points: 39Member
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    depende sa role mo and if income is foremost. sa liit ng tax mo diyan sa HK, mas malaki pa rin in effect ang take home pay mo vs what you will earn here. Unless of course, yung work mo diyan, when translated to Australia is more than $84K per annum significantly (ie. $150K+)
    ICT Business Analyst - 261111
    Visa Subclass 189


    24 June 2013 - Skills Assessment submitted to ACS
    15 Aug 2013 - IELTs General Speaking Test
    17 Aug 2013 - IELTs General Test (Listening, Reading, Writing)
    30 Aug 2013 - IELTs Results (L - 9.0, R - 8.0, W - 8.0, S - 8.0, Overall - 8.5)
    24 Sept 2013 - Favorable letter received from ACS (ICT Business Analyst)
    26 Sept 2013 - Submitted EOI (70 points)
    7 Oct 2013 - Received Invitation to Apply (Visa Subclass 189)
    11 Oct 2013 - Submitted Visa Application
    21 Oct 2013 - Medical Exam (I completed mine, partner had to wait for a few days to complete hers)
    - applied for NBI Clearance
    24 Oct 2013 - Primary Applicant (me) Medicals uploaded by NHSI.
    4 Nov 2013 - Partner completed Medical Exam
    5 Nov 2013 - Claim NBI Clearance
    - Secondary Applicant (partner) Medicals uploaded by NHSI.
    6 Nov 2013 - 20 Nov 2013 waiting for CO.
    21 Nov 2013 - CO Allocated
    26 Nov 2013 - Visa Grant (yehey!!)
    21 March 2014 - Flight to Sydney (Qantas 7PM HKT)
    6 May 2014 - Received 12 month contract from company (same company I worked for in Manila)
    12 May 2014 - Started work
    15 Dec 2014 - Hired permanently by current company (IT Service Manager).

    ==Slowly, but surely..Things will fall into place..==
    WantToMigrate
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  • WantToMigrateWantToMigrate Hong kongTotal Reaction Points: 0Member
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    Tama po kayo, hindi ako 100% na decided na mag migrate sa Australia unang una na ung iiwan ko na buhay dito sa HK.
    Pangalawa din po ung mga nababasa ko sa forums at quora n mahirap maghanap ng work if walang local(Australian) work experience sa mga first timers.
    I will include my family sa application as adviced.
    Medyo malaki laking gastos nga pala talaga to.
    Salamat po sa mga advice.
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