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De facto - Partner skill assessment

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LermieLermie SingaporeTotal Reaction Points: 1Member
Hello Guys,

Good Day!

I'm not sure if this question was already asked in this forum (ni check ko wla talaga ako Makita eh ☹ ). Me and my boyfriend are planning to submit skill assessment (ACS) hopefully next month. My boyfriend is the main applicant and we are planning na kunin nya yung 5 points sakin (partner skills). We are both programmers so same yung skilled occupation list namin.

My Questions are:
1. Need ba yung work experience ko more than 5 years? As per understanding yung work experience is minus 2 years. Or is it as long as my school degree match with my job description?
2. Do I need to get 60 points in my skill assessment even though dependent lng ako?


Highly appreciate if someone can answer my questions.

Thanks a lot and God Bless. :)
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  • HeprexHeprex MelbourneTotal Reaction Points: 601Member
    Posts: 2,031
    Hello,

    1. Several factors affecting your assessment. Like, yung school category, if section 1 and closely related sa occupation, you will need at least 2 years of exp, if not related sa occupation, possible need ng 4 years. If Section 2 or 3, you need to have a PRC license para makuha ang bachelors degree, if not you need at least 4-6 years of related exp. Kung hindi naman ICT related course, at lease 6 years of exp.

    2. hindi kelangan points for skill assessment, yung primary lang need maka reach ng at least 60 pts to qualify sa EOI, you can use your assessment as partner points to claim additional 5 points.
    263111 - Computer Network and Systems Engineer | Age: 30pts | Education: 15pts | Experience: 5pts | English: 20pts | Total: 70pts

    03.08.2016 - joined pinoyau forum
    12.08.2016 - Start collating documents needed for ACS assessment.
    17.11.2016 - CTC'd and Submitted online ACS Assessment.
    28.11.2016 - ACS Result Suitable (AQF Advance Diploma, 5 years deducted) - Sent Appeal Application
    05.12.2016 - ACS Appeal Successful (AQF Bachelor Degree, 2 years deducted)
    21.12.2016 - Submitted EOI 189/190(NSW) (60/65)
    07.09.2017 - Update EOI 189 to 70pts
    20.09.2017 - INVITED!!!
    02.10.2017 - NBI Appointment - Hit for Wifey
    09.10.2017 - Medical @ Nationwide Makati - NBI Release for Wifey
    10.10.2017 - Medical Cleared (Both) - Visa 189 Application Lodge - Frontloaded All Documents
    20.02.2018 - GRANTED!! FINALLY!!! 02 Oct 2018 IED
    *****AFTER GRANT*****
    20.03.2018 - CFO/PDOS
    28.05.2018 - Initial Entry :)
    31.07.2018 - Big Move (Melbourne) :)

    Days Count since Lodging: 133 days - counting ends here!!

    Road to Superior:
    20.12.2016 - L68/R70/S83/W65
    16.01.2017 - L63/R74/S80/W59
    *****wedding preps*****
    26.06.2017 - L61/R75/S82/W72
    05.07.2017 - L71/R90/S83/W74
    24.07.2017 - L78/R82/S88/W80 - DAMN!!!
    01.08.2017 - L72/R78/S88/W70
    08.08.2017 - L73/R90/S90/W73
    14.08.2017 - L73/R81/S84/W83
    **********Haitus********
    06.09.2017 - L89/R88/S90/W81 - YEEEEYYYY!!!!

    Mock Test:
    16.12.2016 - Set A - L71/R58/S56/W64
    17.12.2016 - Set B - L73/R61/S71/W67

    List of documents I submitted: (updated Feb 2018) http://pinoyau.info/discussion/comment/282889/#Comment_282889
    Tip #TeamFeedback: http://pinoyau.info/discussion/comment/282580/#Comment_282580
    Sample recording: https://app.box.com/s/au3bmauev40mvffwdq3fvrrd59yqqs1w
    My PTE tips: http://pinoyau.info/discussion/comment/257891/#Comment_257891
    PTE Resources:
    https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B2kJYAKd2peiNUMwU01IQ1Z2djA&usp=sharing
    http://pinoyau.info/discussion/6364/pte-review-materials/p1
    ptestudy.com

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  • fugu.umedafugu.umeda Quezon CityTotal Reaction Points: 12Member
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    Hi @Lermie , de facto rin kami ng boyfriend ko (girl ako hehe), and done na with ACS. I agree with @Heprex's points.

    Just to add.. As the partner of the main applicant, the only thing you need to worry is AT THE LEAST - i-acknowledge ni ACS ung role mo.

    Kasi, kahit 0 points na makuha mo after ACS assessment, meaning kulang pa work experience, or nasa ibang school category uni mo, and say, andaming deductions at umabot ka na to zero point - hindi talaga eto ung problem mo.

    As a dependent, 0 point is better, than be assessed by ACS na - the list of your submitted work job description does not match the skill you are applying for. In this case, di pwedeng magclaim si primary ng points from you.
    261111 Business Analyst
    Age: 30 points, Educ: 15, Work Exp: 5, English: 20, Partner: 5
    Total Points: 75 points

    -----------------------------------------------

    01.July.2017 - Decided and started reviewing for IELTS
    20.Aug.2017 - Failed IELTS, Switched to PTE-A
    09.Sep.2017 - Submitted documents for ACS assessment
    13.Oct.2017 - Received ACS Assessment (-2yrs only, 5pts)
    24.Oct.2017 - Achieved Superior on PTE-A
    24.Oct.2017 - Submitted EOI - Visa 189
    08.Nov.2017 - Received ITA
    10.Nov.2017 - Medical Exam at Nationwide Makati
    22.Nov.2017 - Lodged our visa application forms today!

    -----------------------------------------------



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  • LermieLermie SingaporeTotal Reaction Points: 1Member
    Posts: 18
    Hello @fugu.umeda.

    Super thanks po sa answer. :)

    (girl rin po ako..hehehe.) Both of us are IT graduate (clasm8t po kami 1st year to 4th year nung college nang bf ko) at kami po dalawa ay programmer. Pero yung work experience ko kasi is palipat lipat ako nang work kaya cya yung main applicant kasi 2 lng nagging company nya tas puro long term..Currently mag 5 years na cya sa company nya ngayon as a programmer rin. Then almost 3 years yung sa pilipinas.

    Nung pag submit nyo po nang skill assessment para maka claim yung partner nyo nang 5 points may option bah dun naka lagay na dependent ako? To make sure na maka claim si primary nang points ko. hehehe.. :)

    Yung total work experience ko is 6 years...Pero not sure if counted yung mga short term (contractual). Same Job rin po, programmer (software developer). As of now po my COE na ako sa company ko with full job description. Dapat e lagay ko po lahat nung work experience ko? Tama po bah? hehehe..Super thanks po. :)

    God Bless! :)
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  • LermieLermie SingaporeTotal Reaction Points: 1Member
    Posts: 18
    Sorry po.. May follow-up question nga po apala ako. :)

    Upon submitting for Partner skill assessment ano po yung mga documents needed?
    Yung sa friend ko po kasi (Pero main applicant cya) is nung nag pa skill assessment cya is it yung mga documents na ne bigay nya.
    - COE with full job description (ctc) sa lahat nang work experience
    - Passport (ctc)
    - TOR (ctc)
    - Diploma (ctc)

    Question po, need po bah ako mag submit rin nang proof na matagal na kami nang bf ko? or yung mga documents that I have mentioned above is okay?

    Thank a lot po sa answer. :)
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  • HeprexHeprex MelbourneTotal Reaction Points: 601Member
    Posts: 2,031
    @ceinau15 yep, for ACS lang yun. Sa ICT kase need mo ng certain amount of exp para ma-assess na suitable. Ibang situation ang sa EA. Pero same concept lang, dapat suitable ang assessment.
    263111 - Computer Network and Systems Engineer | Age: 30pts | Education: 15pts | Experience: 5pts | English: 20pts | Total: 70pts

    03.08.2016 - joined pinoyau forum
    12.08.2016 - Start collating documents needed for ACS assessment.
    17.11.2016 - CTC'd and Submitted online ACS Assessment.
    28.11.2016 - ACS Result Suitable (AQF Advance Diploma, 5 years deducted) - Sent Appeal Application
    05.12.2016 - ACS Appeal Successful (AQF Bachelor Degree, 2 years deducted)
    21.12.2016 - Submitted EOI 189/190(NSW) (60/65)
    07.09.2017 - Update EOI 189 to 70pts
    20.09.2017 - INVITED!!!
    02.10.2017 - NBI Appointment - Hit for Wifey
    09.10.2017 - Medical @ Nationwide Makati - NBI Release for Wifey
    10.10.2017 - Medical Cleared (Both) - Visa 189 Application Lodge - Frontloaded All Documents
    20.02.2018 - GRANTED!! FINALLY!!! 02 Oct 2018 IED
    *****AFTER GRANT*****
    20.03.2018 - CFO/PDOS
    28.05.2018 - Initial Entry :)
    31.07.2018 - Big Move (Melbourne) :)

    Days Count since Lodging: 133 days - counting ends here!!

    Road to Superior:
    20.12.2016 - L68/R70/S83/W65
    16.01.2017 - L63/R74/S80/W59
    *****wedding preps*****
    26.06.2017 - L61/R75/S82/W72
    05.07.2017 - L71/R90/S83/W74
    24.07.2017 - L78/R82/S88/W80 - DAMN!!!
    01.08.2017 - L72/R78/S88/W70
    08.08.2017 - L73/R90/S90/W73
    14.08.2017 - L73/R81/S84/W83
    **********Haitus********
    06.09.2017 - L89/R88/S90/W81 - YEEEEYYYY!!!!

    Mock Test:
    16.12.2016 - Set A - L71/R58/S56/W64
    17.12.2016 - Set B - L73/R61/S71/W67

    List of documents I submitted: (updated Feb 2018) http://pinoyau.info/discussion/comment/282889/#Comment_282889
    Tip #TeamFeedback: http://pinoyau.info/discussion/comment/282580/#Comment_282580
    Sample recording: https://app.box.com/s/au3bmauev40mvffwdq3fvrrd59yqqs1w
    My PTE tips: http://pinoyau.info/discussion/comment/257891/#Comment_257891
    PTE Resources:
    https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B2kJYAKd2peiNUMwU01IQ1Z2djA&usp=sharing
    http://pinoyau.info/discussion/6364/pte-review-materials/p1
    ptestudy.com

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  • LermieLermie SingaporeTotal Reaction Points: 1Member
    Posts: 18
    Hello @Heprex, tanong ko lng po if yung mga documents para mag pah assess as partner is included yung proof na matagal na kami nang bf ko? or yung sa work expr, diploma, tor at passport lng po? Thank you in advance! :)
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  • HeprexHeprex MelbourneTotal Reaction Points: 601Member
    Posts: 2,031
    @Lermie hello, sorry di ko po gets yung tanong. Sa visa application pa po ang proof ng de-facto. Individual po ang assessment.
    263111 - Computer Network and Systems Engineer | Age: 30pts | Education: 15pts | Experience: 5pts | English: 20pts | Total: 70pts

    03.08.2016 - joined pinoyau forum
    12.08.2016 - Start collating documents needed for ACS assessment.
    17.11.2016 - CTC'd and Submitted online ACS Assessment.
    28.11.2016 - ACS Result Suitable (AQF Advance Diploma, 5 years deducted) - Sent Appeal Application
    05.12.2016 - ACS Appeal Successful (AQF Bachelor Degree, 2 years deducted)
    21.12.2016 - Submitted EOI 189/190(NSW) (60/65)
    07.09.2017 - Update EOI 189 to 70pts
    20.09.2017 - INVITED!!!
    02.10.2017 - NBI Appointment - Hit for Wifey
    09.10.2017 - Medical @ Nationwide Makati - NBI Release for Wifey
    10.10.2017 - Medical Cleared (Both) - Visa 189 Application Lodge - Frontloaded All Documents
    20.02.2018 - GRANTED!! FINALLY!!! 02 Oct 2018 IED
    *****AFTER GRANT*****
    20.03.2018 - CFO/PDOS
    28.05.2018 - Initial Entry :)
    31.07.2018 - Big Move (Melbourne) :)

    Days Count since Lodging: 133 days - counting ends here!!

    Road to Superior:
    20.12.2016 - L68/R70/S83/W65
    16.01.2017 - L63/R74/S80/W59
    *****wedding preps*****
    26.06.2017 - L61/R75/S82/W72
    05.07.2017 - L71/R90/S83/W74
    24.07.2017 - L78/R82/S88/W80 - DAMN!!!
    01.08.2017 - L72/R78/S88/W70
    08.08.2017 - L73/R90/S90/W73
    14.08.2017 - L73/R81/S84/W83
    **********Haitus********
    06.09.2017 - L89/R88/S90/W81 - YEEEEYYYY!!!!

    Mock Test:
    16.12.2016 - Set A - L71/R58/S56/W64
    17.12.2016 - Set B - L73/R61/S71/W67

    List of documents I submitted: (updated Feb 2018) http://pinoyau.info/discussion/comment/282889/#Comment_282889
    Tip #TeamFeedback: http://pinoyau.info/discussion/comment/282580/#Comment_282580
    Sample recording: https://app.box.com/s/au3bmauev40mvffwdq3fvrrd59yqqs1w
    My PTE tips: http://pinoyau.info/discussion/comment/257891/#Comment_257891
    PTE Resources:
    https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B2kJYAKd2peiNUMwU01IQ1Z2djA&usp=sharing
    http://pinoyau.info/discussion/6364/pte-review-materials/p1
    ptestudy.com

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  • LermieLermie SingaporeTotal Reaction Points: 1Member
    Posts: 18
    @Heprex ai..sorry po..medyo nakakalito talaga ako mag tanong..heheh..so yung sa assessment po is same lng kami nang mga documents na e submit nang bf ko (ako yung dependent nya cya yung main applicant)? Tama po bah? :)
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  • HeprexHeprex MelbourneTotal Reaction Points: 601Member
    Posts: 2,031
    @Lermie Yep, kung sa assessment lang naman, independent sya. same lang kayo ng documents na need iprovide.
    263111 - Computer Network and Systems Engineer | Age: 30pts | Education: 15pts | Experience: 5pts | English: 20pts | Total: 70pts

    03.08.2016 - joined pinoyau forum
    12.08.2016 - Start collating documents needed for ACS assessment.
    17.11.2016 - CTC'd and Submitted online ACS Assessment.
    28.11.2016 - ACS Result Suitable (AQF Advance Diploma, 5 years deducted) - Sent Appeal Application
    05.12.2016 - ACS Appeal Successful (AQF Bachelor Degree, 2 years deducted)
    21.12.2016 - Submitted EOI 189/190(NSW) (60/65)
    07.09.2017 - Update EOI 189 to 70pts
    20.09.2017 - INVITED!!!
    02.10.2017 - NBI Appointment - Hit for Wifey
    09.10.2017 - Medical @ Nationwide Makati - NBI Release for Wifey
    10.10.2017 - Medical Cleared (Both) - Visa 189 Application Lodge - Frontloaded All Documents
    20.02.2018 - GRANTED!! FINALLY!!! 02 Oct 2018 IED
    *****AFTER GRANT*****
    20.03.2018 - CFO/PDOS
    28.05.2018 - Initial Entry :)
    31.07.2018 - Big Move (Melbourne) :)

    Days Count since Lodging: 133 days - counting ends here!!

    Road to Superior:
    20.12.2016 - L68/R70/S83/W65
    16.01.2017 - L63/R74/S80/W59
    *****wedding preps*****
    26.06.2017 - L61/R75/S82/W72
    05.07.2017 - L71/R90/S83/W74
    24.07.2017 - L78/R82/S88/W80 - DAMN!!!
    01.08.2017 - L72/R78/S88/W70
    08.08.2017 - L73/R90/S90/W73
    14.08.2017 - L73/R81/S84/W83
    **********Haitus********
    06.09.2017 - L89/R88/S90/W81 - YEEEEYYYY!!!!

    Mock Test:
    16.12.2016 - Set A - L71/R58/S56/W64
    17.12.2016 - Set B - L73/R61/S71/W67

    List of documents I submitted: (updated Feb 2018) http://pinoyau.info/discussion/comment/282889/#Comment_282889
    Tip #TeamFeedback: http://pinoyau.info/discussion/comment/282580/#Comment_282580
    Sample recording: https://app.box.com/s/au3bmauev40mvffwdq3fvrrd59yqqs1w
    My PTE tips: http://pinoyau.info/discussion/comment/257891/#Comment_257891
    PTE Resources:
    https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B2kJYAKd2peiNUMwU01IQ1Z2djA&usp=sharing
    http://pinoyau.info/discussion/6364/pte-review-materials/p1
    ptestudy.com

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  • LermieLermie SingaporeTotal Reaction Points: 1Member
    Posts: 18
    @Heprex Super Thanks po!! :) Mag papah assess na kami by 2nd week of Dec hopefully.. Thanks po ulit..God Bless! :)
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  • RheaMARN1171933RheaMARN1171933 Total Reaction Points: 201Member, Administrator
    Posts: 831
    @Lermie I think you've got things mixed up. Basically, you have to go through stages before you can apply for the visa. First, you have have your skills assessed to be equivalent to Australian skills then you lodge an EOI to get invited. This is where you need to pass the points test. Once you get an invite, you have 60 days to lodge your visa application. Hope this helps.
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  • KennikkiKennikki PhilippinesTotal Reaction Points: 0Member
    Posts: 4
    Hi @RheaMARN1171933, question lang po. I am the principal applicant for Visa 189. My ANZcode is 263111. My wife is a Chef for 4 years already. Both profession are listed sa MLTSSL. Need po ba nya rin mgbayad for the skill assessment nya? In my case sa ACS po ako and sya for the Culinary. Need ko po kasi additional points from partner skills.
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  • KennikkiKennikki PhilippinesTotal Reaction Points: 0Member
    Posts: 4
    @Heprex question lang po same sa previous question ko for partner skills. Ako po principal and IT and wife ko po is Chef. As partner skills po, need din po ba sya maassess ng TRA before EOI?
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  • HeprexHeprex MelbourneTotal Reaction Points: 601Member
    edited January 31 Posts: 2,031
    @Kennikki Hello, need ng positive skill assessment to gain partner points. need din ata ng english prof. So need nya muna mag TRA bago ka makapag EOI.

    https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/supporting/Pages/skilled/partner-skills-documents.aspx
    263111 - Computer Network and Systems Engineer | Age: 30pts | Education: 15pts | Experience: 5pts | English: 20pts | Total: 70pts

    03.08.2016 - joined pinoyau forum
    12.08.2016 - Start collating documents needed for ACS assessment.
    17.11.2016 - CTC'd and Submitted online ACS Assessment.
    28.11.2016 - ACS Result Suitable (AQF Advance Diploma, 5 years deducted) - Sent Appeal Application
    05.12.2016 - ACS Appeal Successful (AQF Bachelor Degree, 2 years deducted)
    21.12.2016 - Submitted EOI 189/190(NSW) (60/65)
    07.09.2017 - Update EOI 189 to 70pts
    20.09.2017 - INVITED!!!
    02.10.2017 - NBI Appointment - Hit for Wifey
    09.10.2017 - Medical @ Nationwide Makati - NBI Release for Wifey
    10.10.2017 - Medical Cleared (Both) - Visa 189 Application Lodge - Frontloaded All Documents
    20.02.2018 - GRANTED!! FINALLY!!! 02 Oct 2018 IED
    *****AFTER GRANT*****
    20.03.2018 - CFO/PDOS
    28.05.2018 - Initial Entry :)
    31.07.2018 - Big Move (Melbourne) :)

    Days Count since Lodging: 133 days - counting ends here!!

    Road to Superior:
    20.12.2016 - L68/R70/S83/W65
    16.01.2017 - L63/R74/S80/W59
    *****wedding preps*****
    26.06.2017 - L61/R75/S82/W72
    05.07.2017 - L71/R90/S83/W74
    24.07.2017 - L78/R82/S88/W80 - DAMN!!!
    01.08.2017 - L72/R78/S88/W70
    08.08.2017 - L73/R90/S90/W73
    14.08.2017 - L73/R81/S84/W83
    **********Haitus********
    06.09.2017 - L89/R88/S90/W81 - YEEEEYYYY!!!!

    Mock Test:
    16.12.2016 - Set A - L71/R58/S56/W64
    17.12.2016 - Set B - L73/R61/S71/W67

    List of documents I submitted: (updated Feb 2018) http://pinoyau.info/discussion/comment/282889/#Comment_282889
    Tip #TeamFeedback: http://pinoyau.info/discussion/comment/282580/#Comment_282580
    Sample recording: https://app.box.com/s/au3bmauev40mvffwdq3fvrrd59yqqs1w
    My PTE tips: http://pinoyau.info/discussion/comment/257891/#Comment_257891
    PTE Resources:
    https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B2kJYAKd2peiNUMwU01IQ1Z2djA&usp=sharing
    http://pinoyau.info/discussion/6364/pte-review-materials/p1
    ptestudy.com

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  • RheaMARN1171933RheaMARN1171933 Total Reaction Points: 201Member, Administrator
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    @Kennikki she needs to satisfy 3 categories - under 50 years of age, competent English and positive skills assessment outcome
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  • KennikkiKennikki PhilippinesTotal Reaction Points: 0Member
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    @RheaMARN1171933 thanks a lot. Any idea how much is the skill Assessment fee?
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  • KennikkiKennikki PhilippinesTotal Reaction Points: 0Member
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    @Heprex Thanks a lot po.
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  • jizajiza SingaporeTotal Reaction Points: 1Member
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    Hello po, husband ko po ang main applicant (ACS, MLTSS sya)). Gusto ko sanang maka-add ng 5 points for partner skills qualification. May IELTS (at least 7) na ako but technical writer ang work ko (computer enginerring degree). Kaso nasa STSOL ang technical writer and hindi applicable sa subclass 189. But kailangan daw nasa MLTSSL ang job ko para makaclaim ako ng 5points. Tama po ba? Mas mabuti yata hindi nalang ako magpapaassess sa VETASSESS. May chance pa po bang makaclaim ako ng 5points? Salamat!!

    Ito yong requirements na nabasa ko sa Internet:
    You must provide evidence that your partner meets the requirements. This evidence must be:
    1. documents that prove your partner is 50 years of age or younger
    2. documents that prove your partner has at least competent English
    3. a positive skills assessment from the relevant assessing authority for your partner’s nominated occupation (your partner’s nominated occupation must be on the same Skilled Occupation List as your nominated occupation).
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  • RheaMARN1171933RheaMARN1171933 Total Reaction Points: 201Member, Administrator
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    Both of your occupations must be in the same list otherwise not possible at all
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  • jizajiza SingaporeTotal Reaction Points: 1Member
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    @RheaMARN1171933 Ok po, salamat! :)
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New SimplyStall Mobile App!

Hi everyone!

I'm very happy to announce PinoyAu Forum's new app called "SimplyStall" . It's a new Gumtree like service for Pinoys in Australia but in a way better!

So if you have any items just collecting dust? Why not convert it to cash?

If you are selling new items or products or wish to give an item away for free then this might be a good avenue for you.

This project is a new initiative to unify and have a common portal for Pinoys in Australia to sell and share stuffs.

It's now available on Google Play and Apple App Store.

Please do try it out. I'd appreciate if you can help me spread the good news and start selling your old or new stuffs.

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