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Is PDOS a requirement for 457 Visa?

GiegieGiegie MelbournePosts: 19Member
Hi, we are on 457 Visa and we will be flying from Manila to Melbourne. I know that OEC is a requirement, but please advise if Manila Immigration requires a PDOS (Pre-Departure Orientation Seminar) for us to be allowed to leave Philippines.

Anybody here have experienced flying from Manila to OZ on 457/482 or Temporary Visa.

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  • jmban33jmban33 New Farm
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    Giegie said:

    Hi, we are on 457 Visa and we will be flying from Manila to Melbourne. I know that OEC is a requirement, but please advise if Manila Immigration requires a PDOS (Pre-Departure Orientation Seminar) for us to be allowed to leave Philippines.

    Anybody here have experienced flying from Manila to OZ on 457/482 or Temporary Visa.

    Hi all Pinoys going out of the Phils except tourists purposes will need to have PDOS as required by the government.
  • fgsfgs Cooper Basin
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    jmban33 said:

    Giegie said:

    Hi, we are on 457 Visa and we will be flying from Manila to Melbourne. I know that OEC is a requirement, but please advise if Manila Immigration requires a PDOS (Pre-Departure Orientation Seminar) for us to be allowed to leave Philippines.

    Anybody here have experienced flying from Manila to OZ on 457/482 or Temporary Visa.

    Hi all Pinoys going out of the Phils except tourists purposes will need to have PDOS as required by the government.
    NO, only emigrants settling permanently abroad are required to attend PDOS. 457/482/489 except for 190/189 visas need not to attend the seminar.
  • GiegieGiegie Melbourne
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    Hi fgs thank you so much for your comment. So on departure from Philippines, we only need to present the OEC sa officer. Pinipresent din po ba ang visa?
  • fgsfgs Cooper Basin
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    Giegie said:

    Hi fgs thank you so much for your comment. So on departure from Philippines, we only need to present the OEC sa officer. Pinipresent din po ba ang visa?

    Just print a copy..not necessary na hanapin..depende sa immig officer
  • GiegieGiegie Melbourne
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    @fgs Thanks po.
  • dy3pdy3p Sydney, NSW
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    fgs said:

    jmban33 said:

    Giegie said:

    Hi, we are on 457 Visa and we will be flying from Manila to Melbourne. I know that OEC is a requirement, but please advise if Manila Immigration requires a PDOS (Pre-Departure Orientation Seminar) for us to be allowed to leave Philippines.

    Anybody here have experienced flying from Manila to OZ on 457/482 or Temporary Visa.

    Hi all Pinoys going out of the Phils except tourists purposes will need to have PDOS as required by the government.
    NO, only emigrants settling permanently abroad are required to attend PDOS. 457/482/489 except for 190/189 visas need not to attend the seminar.
    Not necessarily immigrants boss. Basta your purpose of travel is for employment, dadaan ng PDOS. Regardless of which country.

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    03/12/16 - AHPRA registered
    04/12/16 - Job offered and accepted (457 Sponsorship)
    01/04/17 - Medicals for both 457 and future PR application
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    15/04/17 - Filed for resignation from current employer
    21/04/17 - Nomination submitted by AU employer
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    06/09/17 - ITA received
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    17/10/17 - CO Contact
    25/10/17 - Further Information Provided
    16/02/18 - Visa Grant Received

  • jmban33jmban33 New Farm
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    @fgs i disagree po as PDOS is required for Filos going out from the country on semi permanent basis. The purpose is to orient outgoing persons on the dos and donts and culture of the country where they are going to. its a requirement for OFWs going to Sg/Saudi etc i dont see the difference of visa 457
  • jmban33jmban33 New Farm
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    @Giegie para sure just check with OWWA if youre exempted or required to attend specially if its your fist time going here
  • fgsfgs Cooper Basin
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    jmban33 said:

    @fgs i disagree po as PDOS is required for Filos going out from the country on semi permanent basis. The purpose is to orient outgoing persons on the dos and donts and culture of the country where they are going to. its a requirement for OFWs going to Sg/Saudi etc i dont see the difference of visa 457

    You can check the website..I left the country on a 489 visa and was not required to attend PDOS. i even flown to manila to attend sana just to make sure na di ako mahaharang sa immigration but they did not let me attend. For Australia, only PR visas like 190 and 189 are required to attend. 489 is a provisional visa with pathway to PR after 4 years( knowing na magaapply talaga ng PR ang mga 489) pero di talaga required mag attend. They might require you when you go home na PR ka na pero pwede magbayad ka na lang without attending the seminar para lang makuha ang sticker. Whats the purpose anyway kasi youve been living in AU for years. Alam mo naman sa atin minsan di consistent ang immi...kaya nong umuwi mga pamangkin ko, pinakuha ko lang ng pdos sticker( bayad na kang without attending) just to make sure na walang aberya sa immigration paglabas ng Ph.
  • fgsfgs Cooper Basin
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    jmban33 said:

    @fgs i disagree po as PDOS is required for Filos going out from the country on semi permanent basis. The purpose is to orient outgoing persons on the dos and donts and culture of the country where they are going to. its a requirement for OFWs going to Sg/Saudi etc i dont see the difference of visa 457


    @jmban33 This is from the cfo website"..the term used is SETTLE PERMANENTLY

    A. What is the Pre-departure Orientation Seminar (PDOS) in CFO?
    Filipino emigrants or those leaving the country to settle permanently abroad are required to register with the Commission on Filipinos Overseas (CFO), and attend the Pre-Departure Orientation Seminar (PDOS) or Peer Counseling Session. Topics discussed include travel regulations, immigration procedures, cultural differences, settlement concerns, employment and social security concerns, and rights and obligations of Filipino migrants.

    The PDOS is for emigrants aged 20-59 years old who are petitioned by their parents, siblings, or immediate relatives, including independent applicants. The Peer Counseling Program is for emigrants aged 13-19 years old.
  • jmban33jmban33 New Farm
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    @fgs i am answering the query specifically for @giegie who is under visa 457 which a work visa. The information you have quoted from the website itself is for filos permanently migrating abroad.
  • fgsfgs Cooper Basin
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    jmban33 said:

    @fgs i am answering the query specifically for @giegie who is under visa 457 which a work visa. The information you have quoted from the website itself is for filos permanently migrating abroad.

    Thats how they defined PDOS in the CFO website so i assumed since 457 visa holder will not live permanently in Australia, the seminar is not required. Better @giegie ask directly CFO to avoid confusion.
  • dy3pdy3p Sydney, NSW
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    @fgs Mejo vague yung pagkakastate sa website kung gnyan nga. Kasi kahit sinong ofw (not only migrants) will require PDOS. Papunta ng UAE, SG, UK, wherever, basta employment, dadaan sa pdos e.

    457 yung kasamahan ko dito dumating last year. Dumaan sila PDOS. Maybe they changed the rules? Im not really sure.

    08/11/15 - IELTS
    16/12/15 - AHPRA registration application
    14/01/16 - AHPRA refusal and referral to BP
    09-11/16 - Bridging program completion
    28/11/16 - AHPRA registration re-application
    03/12/16 - AHPRA registered
    04/12/16 - Job offered and accepted (457 Sponsorship)
    01/04/17 - Medicals for both 457 and future PR application
    07/04/17 - ANMAC assessment application
    15/04/17 - Filed for resignation from current employer
    21/04/17 - Nomination submitted by AU employer
    23/05/17 - Nomination granted
    31/05/17 - 457 application lodged
    16/06/17 - 457 Granted
    27/07/17 - EOI Submitted
    06/09/17 - ITA received
    10/09/17 - PR Skilled Independent 189 Application Lodged
    17/10/17 - CO Contact
    25/10/17 - Further Information Provided
    16/02/18 - Visa Grant Received

  • GiegieGiegie Melbourne
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    Joined: Nov 11, 2018
    Thank you all for the advice. I shall email now CFO and clarify/inquire whether this is a requirement. I shall let you know of their reply so that this will also serve as guidance for the rest of us.
  • GiegieGiegie Melbourne
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    Joined: Nov 11, 2018
    edited December 2018
    @dy3p The Emigrant Service Officer from CFO has replied to my email and confirmed that there is no need for PDOS if the Visa is just temporary regardless of which country you will be going to. Kelangan lang ito pag Emigrants with Permanent Visa. 457 and 482 are temporary, so no need na ang PDOS.

    Thanks for all your help. We can now confidently look forward to our flight.
  • dy3pdy3p Sydney, NSW
    Posts: 552Member
    Joined: Apr 27, 2017
    @Giegie They did change the rules nga as last year kinailangan nung friend ko umattend ng pdos. Anyway, thanks for the info and further clarification. :)

    08/11/15 - IELTS
    16/12/15 - AHPRA registration application
    14/01/16 - AHPRA refusal and referral to BP
    09-11/16 - Bridging program completion
    28/11/16 - AHPRA registration re-application
    03/12/16 - AHPRA registered
    04/12/16 - Job offered and accepted (457 Sponsorship)
    01/04/17 - Medicals for both 457 and future PR application
    07/04/17 - ANMAC assessment application
    15/04/17 - Filed for resignation from current employer
    21/04/17 - Nomination submitted by AU employer
    23/05/17 - Nomination granted
    31/05/17 - 457 application lodged
    16/06/17 - 457 Granted
    27/07/17 - EOI Submitted
    06/09/17 - ITA received
    10/09/17 - PR Skilled Independent 189 Application Lodged
    17/10/17 - CO Contact
    25/10/17 - Further Information Provided
    16/02/18 - Visa Grant Received

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