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IELTS for General Skilled Migration visa (Sub class 189)

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BetchayBetchay MandaluyongTotal Reaction Points: 0Member
edited December 2013 in IELTS, PTE and OET Topics Posts: 27
General Skilled Migration visa (Sub class 189) Do I really need to pass 7 pts for the English Language so that I can continue processing my application for visa 189?
Nominated Occupation: Analyst Programmer (ANZSCO Code 261311)
December 11,2013 - Gathered all the Requirements foe ACS
December 13,2013 -Submitted the Requirements to ACS
March 11,2014 - Results received - Suitable - AQF Bachelor Degree
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  • gmad06gmad06 MelbourneTotal Reaction Points: 22Member
    edited December 2013 Posts: 487
    @Betchay welcome to the forum
    it is not necessary at all times but it may be required by the skills assessing body, minimum requirement ng skillselect is 6 for all modules...

    now, it would be better if you can provide more info like the job code you selected and your points status, etc.....
    Nominated Skill 263111 Computer Network and Systems
    Engineer
    1-26-2013 Submitted ACS Assesment
    4-2-2013 ACS assesment received suitable/Bachelor's Degree
    9-7-2013 IELTS 2nd retake w/EOR ( L-8.5,R-9,W-7,S-7) thank u Lord
    11-4-2013 got invite for 189VISA..
    11-11-2013 lodged visa application
    11-21-2013 medicals uploaded, no further exams required
    11-28-2013 CO allocated, Team 6 Adelaide
    12-18-2013 Completed all documents required
    12-19-2013 Visa Grant; IED Nov.18,2014 God Loves Us!!
    07-27-2014 Arrived Melbourne
    09-11-2014 Received job offer
    09-29-2014 First day at work
    11-15-2014 Bought our first car

    Even if we don't have the power to choose where we come from, we can still choose where we go from there
    Shyluck
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  • BetchayBetchay MandaluyongTotal Reaction Points: 0Member
    edited December 2013 Posts: 27
    Nominated Occupation: Analyst Programmer (ANZSCO Code 261311)
    December 11,2013-- Gathered all the Requirements foe ACS
    December 13,2013 -Submitted the Reqs. to ACS

    so far ito palang po not sure if I can continue even though pending pa papers ko with ACS di ko pala alam kung positive or negative ang assessment ko.
    Nominated Occupation: Analyst Programmer (ANZSCO Code 261311)
    December 11,2013 - Gathered all the Requirements foe ACS
    December 13,2013 -Submitted the Requirements to ACS
    March 11,2014 - Results received - Suitable - AQF Bachelor Degree
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  • gmad06gmad06 MelbourneTotal Reaction Points: 22Member
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    try to do a rough estimation of your points..if positive ACS mo,ilang years kaya macredit sau,in terms of eduaction and overseas experience..if negative ACS mo,estimate mo din ilang points kelangan mo para maka 60points...

    hav u familiarized urself with skills select?
    Nominated Skill 263111 Computer Network and Systems
    Engineer
    1-26-2013 Submitted ACS Assesment
    4-2-2013 ACS assesment received suitable/Bachelor's Degree
    9-7-2013 IELTS 2nd retake w/EOR ( L-8.5,R-9,W-7,S-7) thank u Lord
    11-4-2013 got invite for 189VISA..
    11-11-2013 lodged visa application
    11-21-2013 medicals uploaded, no further exams required
    11-28-2013 CO allocated, Team 6 Adelaide
    12-18-2013 Completed all documents required
    12-19-2013 Visa Grant; IED Nov.18,2014 God Loves Us!!
    07-27-2014 Arrived Melbourne
    09-11-2014 Received job offer
    09-29-2014 First day at work
    11-15-2014 Bought our first car

    Even if we don't have the power to choose where we come from, we can still choose where we go from there
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  • BetchayBetchay MandaluyongTotal Reaction Points: 0Member
    edited December 2013 Posts: 27
    yup sir lahat nagtry na po ako
    Age: 31 - 30pts
    Education History: Bachelor of Science in Computer Science Graduate 4yrs course ako - 10pts
    Employment : 2002-2013 Employed po ako -10pts?

    So far 40 pts pa lang :(

    Wala pang Skills Assessment at IELTS

    Di ko sure po kung iseselect ko ba ung Professional Year sa Skill Select


    Nominated Occupation: Analyst Programmer (ANZSCO Code 261311)
    December 11,2013 - Gathered all the Requirements foe ACS
    December 13,2013 -Submitted the Requirements to ACS
    March 11,2014 - Results received - Suitable - AQF Bachelor Degree
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  • gmad06gmad06 MelbourneTotal Reaction Points: 22Member
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    @Betchay since computer science ka, you might want to check ur school sa rightmost tab sa taas..minsan kasi comparable siya sa OZ degree,minsan nman hindi..doon mo ma estimate ilang years ang kukunin nila sa experience mo.dnt worry may paraan nman lahat ng situation eh..baka yung IELTS nga ang makakatulong sayo
    Nominated Skill 263111 Computer Network and Systems
    Engineer
    1-26-2013 Submitted ACS Assesment
    4-2-2013 ACS assesment received suitable/Bachelor's Degree
    9-7-2013 IELTS 2nd retake w/EOR ( L-8.5,R-9,W-7,S-7) thank u Lord
    11-4-2013 got invite for 189VISA..
    11-11-2013 lodged visa application
    11-21-2013 medicals uploaded, no further exams required
    11-28-2013 CO allocated, Team 6 Adelaide
    12-18-2013 Completed all documents required
    12-19-2013 Visa Grant; IED Nov.18,2014 God Loves Us!!
    07-27-2014 Arrived Melbourne
    09-11-2014 Received job offer
    09-29-2014 First day at work
    11-15-2014 Bought our first car

    Even if we don't have the power to choose where we come from, we can still choose where we go from there
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  • BetchayBetchay MandaluyongTotal Reaction Points: 0Member
    edited December 2013 Posts: 27
    @gmad06 : Sir ito po nakuha ko dun sa taas

    47 Philippine Christian University DASMARIÑAS, MANILA 1
    Nominated Occupation: Analyst Programmer (ANZSCO Code 261311)
    December 11,2013 - Gathered all the Requirements foe ACS
    December 13,2013 -Submitted the Requirements to ACS
    March 11,2014 - Results received - Suitable - AQF Bachelor Degree
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  • gmad06gmad06 MelbourneTotal Reaction Points: 22Member
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    @gmad06 : Sir ito po nakuha ko dun sa taas

    47 Philippine Christian University DASMARIÑAS, MANILA 1
    so looking at the category you will know how many years ang kukunin nila from your working experience. they will state it anyway on your assessment results.


    Nominated Skill 263111 Computer Network and Systems
    Engineer
    1-26-2013 Submitted ACS Assesment
    4-2-2013 ACS assesment received suitable/Bachelor's Degree
    9-7-2013 IELTS 2nd retake w/EOR ( L-8.5,R-9,W-7,S-7) thank u Lord
    11-4-2013 got invite for 189VISA..
    11-11-2013 lodged visa application
    11-21-2013 medicals uploaded, no further exams required
    11-28-2013 CO allocated, Team 6 Adelaide
    12-18-2013 Completed all documents required
    12-19-2013 Visa Grant; IED Nov.18,2014 God Loves Us!!
    07-27-2014 Arrived Melbourne
    09-11-2014 Received job offer
    09-29-2014 First day at work
    11-15-2014 Bought our first car

    Even if we don't have the power to choose where we come from, we can still choose where we go from there
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  • BetchayBetchay MandaluyongTotal Reaction Points: 0Member
    Posts: 27
    @gmad06 thanks sir gets ko na
    Nominated Occupation: Analyst Programmer (ANZSCO Code 261311)
    December 11,2013 - Gathered all the Requirements foe ACS
    December 13,2013 -Submitted the Requirements to ACS
    March 11,2014 - Results received - Suitable - AQF Bachelor Degree
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  • thegreatiam15thegreatiam15 SydneyTotal Reaction Points: 63Member
    Posts: 800
    mga bossing question lang...yung skills assessment ba para sa subclass 189

    kasi iapply ko sa EOI is civil engineering draftsperson pero ang degree ko is architecture tama ba to? sa AACA parin ba ako mag skills assessment hindi sa civil engineering?

    if ever ba na ilagay ko as both architects by profession sa AACA marerecognize kaya yung qualifications ko?...maraming salamat...
    I haven't lost everything except my mind...
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  • quesoboyquesoboy Quezon CityTotal Reaction Points: 2Member
    Posts: 56
    Hi @gmad06,

    Since you're on the topic of schools, what does the section number mean? I just referred to the list and found that my school is section 1. How does it play into your application?

    Hope you can help me understand this.

    Thanks!
    My Timeline:

    28 Mar 2014 - Submitted ACS Skills Assessment
    10 May 2014 - Took IELTS (General)
    26 May 2014 - Received ACS Skills Assessment Result: Suitable
    27 May 2014 - IELTS Results (L: 8.5; R: 9; W: 7; S: 8.5; OBS: 8.5)
    28 May 2014 - Submitted EOI for Visa 189
    23 Jun 2014 - Received Invitation for Visa Application
    26 Jun 2014 - Lodged Visa 189 Application
    15 Sep 2014 - Direct Visa Grant
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  • appledeuceappledeuce BrisbaneTotal Reaction Points: 42Member
    edited January 2014 Posts: 389
    Hi @gmad06,

    Since you're on the topic of schools, what does the section number mean? I just referred to the list and found that my school is section 1. How does it play into your application?

    Hope you can help me understand this.

    Thanks!
    Hi @quesoboy,

    The Australian government has Country Education Profiles where they basically, well, 'profile' (lol) or check an educational qualification acquired outside of Australia and determine its equivalent qualification in the Australian Qualification Framework based on a number of factors (quality of education, etc). For example, a bachelor degree obtained in the Philippines may not necessarily be considered as equivalent to a bachelor degree in Australia. That's where the sectioning of schools comes in. Schools in section 1 are considered the 'best' in terms of the quality of education, if you will, so if you obtain a bachelor degree in a Section 1 school, your qualification will normally be considered as a bachelor degree equivalent in Australian standards (AQF). If you are a Section 2 bachelor degree graduate, it's quite possible that your bachelor degree will only be considered a 'certificate', or less than a bachelor degree, or your 5-year bachelor degree will only be equivalent to a 4-year bachelor degree in Australia. Section 3 are usually up-and-coming or lesser-known schools who have yet to establish that they provide high quality education, I suppose.

    Parang sa pera, since mataas ang value ng currency nila, yung medyo malaking halaga sa atin, is barya lang pagdating sa kanila. Sorry about the dumb analogy, but you get the comparison. Haha. :)

    Now where does it play in our application? In points based general skilled migration assessments, you get points based on your qualification (20 for doctorate, 15 for bachelors/masters, 10 for Australian diploma equivalent). So if you have a bachelor degree from a Philippine college/uni, you will assume that you can claim 15 points. However, as explained (loosely) above, this may not always be the case, as it is possible that your bachelor degree may be only equivalent to an Australian diploma, in which case, you are only going to get 10 points.

    Moreover, it may also be a factor for when you get your skills/work experience assessed by the relevant assessing body. For example:
    - IT professional 1 has a 4-year bachelor degree in IT from a section 1 school, and has 5 years experience
    - IT professional 2 has a 4-year bachelor degree in IT from a section 3 school and has 5 years experience

    Pwedeng sabihin ni assessing body (ACS) na ITP1 can claim for 5 years of work experience, pero si ITP2 can only claim 3 years of work experience (I guess parang sinasabi nila yung other 2 years na work experience ni ITP2 is considered as years in school pa). In other words, ITP1's 4-year degree is equivalent to ITP2's 4-year degree PLUS 2 years of work experience, since mas mataas ang quality of education ng school ni ITP1.

    Sorry, nagmamarunong lang. =))
    Student Visa 573 (SVP) Timeline:
    28 Nov 2013 - submitted int'l student application to Victoria Uni
    20-21 Dec 2013 - sat IELTS Academic module exam
    03 Jan 2014 - received IELTS scores (L:8.5 R:8.0 W:8.0 S:8.0 OBS:8.0)
    07 Jan 2014 - undertook medical exam at NHSI Makati
    16 Jan 2014 - received unconditional offer from VU
    13 Feb 2014 - paid 1st sem tuition fees; received e-COE from VU
    13 Feb 2014 - lodged visa application at PIASI
    17 Feb 2014 - received visa grant via email (thank you, Lord!)
    21 Feb 2014 - first day in OZ
    24 Feb 2014 - first day of classes
    19 June 2015 - last of day classes!
    06 Aug 2015 - received Letter of Completion from uni
    14 Oct 2015 - Graduation :D

    Journey to PR:
    07 Aug 2015 - submitted skills assessment to ACS (261311 - Analyst Programmer)
    12 Aug 2015 - received positive skills assessment result from ACS
    12 Aug 2015 - submitted EOI for 189 (60 points), 190 (NSW-65 points), 489 (state and relative sponsored - 70 points)
    29 Oct 2015 - received ITA for NSW State Nomination
    03 Nov 2015 - submitted application for NSW State Nomination
    19 Nov 2015 - received NSW SN approval and ITA for 190 visa
    01 Dec 2015 - lodged 190 application
    14 Dec 2015 - health exam at BUPA Melbourne
    15 Dec 2015 - Initial (and hopefully final) CO contact, asking for PCC
    22 Dec 2015 - submitted Australian PCC and NBI Clearance
    16 Feb 2016 - received 190 PR visa grant
    quesoboy engineerlester
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  • gmad06gmad06 MelbourneTotal Reaction Points: 22Member
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    Hi @gmad06,

    Since you're on the topic of schools, what does the section number mean? I just referred to the list and found that my school is section 1. How does it play into your application?

    Hope you can help me understand this.

    Thanks!


    Hi @quesoboy,

    The Australian government has Country Education Profiles where they basically, well, 'profile' (lol) or check an educational qualification acquired outside of Australia and determine its equivalent qualification in the Australian Qualification Framework based on a number of factors (quality of education, etc). For example, a bachelor degree obtained in the Philippines may not necessarily be considered as equivalent to a bachelor degree in Australia. That's where the sectioning of schools comes in. Schools in section 1 are considered the 'best' in terms of the quality of education, if you will, so if you obtain a bachelor degree in a Section 1 school, your qualification will normally be considered as a bachelor degree equivalent in Australian standards (AQF). If you are a Section 2 bachelor degree graduate, it's quite possible that your bachelor degree will only be considered a 'certificate', or less than a bachelor degree, or your 5-year bachelor degree will only be equivalent to a 4-year bachelor degree in Australia. Section 3 are usually up-and-coming or lesser-known schools who have yet to establish that they provide high quality education, I suppose.

    Parang sa pera, since mataas ang value ng currency nila, yung medyo malaking halaga sa atin, is barya lang pagdating sa kanila. Sorry about the dumb analogy, but you get the comparison. Haha. :)

    Now where does it play in our application? In points based general skilled migration assessments, you get points based on your qualification (20 for doctorate, 15 for bachelors/masters, 10 for Australian diploma equivalent). So if you have a bachelor degree from a Philippine college/uni, you will assume that you can claim 15 points. However, as explained (loosely) above, this may not always be the case, as it is possible that your bachelor degree may be only equivalent to an Australian diploma, in which case, you are only going to get 10 points.

    Moreover, it may also be a factor for when you get your skills/work experience assessed by the relevant assessing body. For example:
    - IT professional 1 has a 4-year bachelor degree in IT from a section 1 school, and has 5 years experience
    - IT professional 2 has a 4-year bachelor degree in IT from a section 3 school and has 5 years experience

    Pwedeng sabihin ni assessing body (ACS) na ITP1 can claim for 5 years of work experience, pero si ITP2 can only claim 3 years of work experience (I guess parang sinasabi nila yung other 2 years na work experience ni ITP2 is considered as years in school pa). In other words, ITP1's 4-year degree is equivalent to ITP2's 4-year degree PLUS 2 years of work experience, since mas mataas ang quality of education ng school ni ITP1.

    Sorry, nagmamarunong lang. =))
    @quesoboy sorry for the late reply, but I guess everything has been said by @appledeuce and I fully support her opinion above. Sa madaling salita, if you refer to the profile of your school based on OZ standards, you will be able to foresee what is most likely your outcome for skills and edu assessment. This affects your years of experience and the band you should aim for IELTS as well.

    sana nakatulong kami...
    Nominated Skill 263111 Computer Network and Systems
    Engineer
    1-26-2013 Submitted ACS Assesment
    4-2-2013 ACS assesment received suitable/Bachelor's Degree
    9-7-2013 IELTS 2nd retake w/EOR ( L-8.5,R-9,W-7,S-7) thank u Lord
    11-4-2013 got invite for 189VISA..
    11-11-2013 lodged visa application
    11-21-2013 medicals uploaded, no further exams required
    11-28-2013 CO allocated, Team 6 Adelaide
    12-18-2013 Completed all documents required
    12-19-2013 Visa Grant; IED Nov.18,2014 God Loves Us!!
    07-27-2014 Arrived Melbourne
    09-11-2014 Received job offer
    09-29-2014 First day at work
    11-15-2014 Bought our first car

    Even if we don't have the power to choose where we come from, we can still choose where we go from there
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  • quesoboyquesoboy Quezon CityTotal Reaction Points: 2Member
    edited January 2014 Posts: 56
    Haha wow, thanks for the comprehensive explanation, @appledeuce! I get it now. :D

    Thanks din, @gmad06. :)

    Both of you were helpful. :)
    My Timeline:

    28 Mar 2014 - Submitted ACS Skills Assessment
    10 May 2014 - Took IELTS (General)
    26 May 2014 - Received ACS Skills Assessment Result: Suitable
    27 May 2014 - IELTS Results (L: 8.5; R: 9; W: 7; S: 8.5; OBS: 8.5)
    28 May 2014 - Submitted EOI for Visa 189
    23 Jun 2014 - Received Invitation for Visa Application
    26 Jun 2014 - Lodged Visa 189 Application
    15 Sep 2014 - Direct Visa Grant
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  • roxie_montejoroxie_montejo MandaluyongTotal Reaction Points: 0Member
    Posts: 3
    hi to all,im an accounting graduate but not cpa.5 years and 5 months na and experience ko sa accounting..am i qualified to apply for skilled-independent visa?
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  • roxie_montejoroxie_montejo MandaluyongTotal Reaction Points: 0Member
    Posts: 3
    do i need to take IELTS before submiting an expression of interest?.ano passing grade pag accounting..tips naman dyan..mahirap ba?
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  • roxie_montejoroxie_montejo MandaluyongTotal Reaction Points: 0Member
    Posts: 3
    pwd makahingi ng review materials for IELTS..thank in advance.
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  • TasBurrfootTasBurrfoot OsakaTotal Reaction Points: 261Member, Moderator
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    hi to all,im an accounting graduate but not cpa.5 years and 5 months na and experience ko sa accounting..am i qualified to apply for skilled-independent visa?
    There is a separate thread for accounting migrants somewhere in this forum but to indulge you with your first question; yes, pwedend pwede ka mag-apply kahit you are not a CPA in the Philippines. Useless naman ang CPA Philippines designation dito sa Australia so they are looking lang at what you have learned in school with respect to accountancy...
    Primary Applicant: Wife
    Accountant (General): 221111

    04 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module)
    07 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module) Speaking Part
    17 Aug 2012 - IELTS Results (L: 8.5 R: 8.5 W: 7.0 S: 7.5 OBS: 8.0)
    24 Aug 2012 - CPAA Submitted (docs mailed same day via SG EMS)
    25 Sep 2012 - Received +Skills Assessment from CPAA
    25 Sep 2012 - Lodged EOI Application with 70pts
    30 Sep 2012 - Invited by DIAC to apply for 189 Visa
    01 Oct 2012 - Submitted 189 Visa Application
    20 Oct 2012 - Medical Examinations
    23 Oct 2012 - CO Assigned; Team 7 - SA
    05 Nov 2012 - Submitted SG PCC and NBI Clearance
    06 Nov 2012 - Visa Granted (IED: 23/10/2013)
    03 Apr 2013 - Flight to MEL
    03 Jun 2013 - started work
    12 Jun 2013 - wife started work
    15 Jun 2016 - applied for citizenship
    29 Jul 2016 - citizenship examination
    20 Oct 2016 - Aussie, Aussie, Aussie Oi Oi Oi!!
    michel_75
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  • MSSMSS CanberraTotal Reaction Points: 8Member
    Posts: 164
    Hi.just want to ask what would be the real requirement for ielts on a slilled migrant based on points system? I mean,they are requiring 7.0 on all band but my assessing body only requires 7.0 on overall (average band). Unfortunately i only got 5.5 on listening,does it mean i cant use my ielts report in points system though i can use it iny assessing body?do i need to retake it?
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  • ten2sixten2six SydneyTotal Reaction Points: 9Member
    Posts: 166
    ^ You need no band score lower than 6.0 to apply in 189 & 190 visas. But you will only get points if you have bands 7.0 and above. That means 10 points for no band score lower than 7.0 and 20 points for no band score lower than 8.0.
    My OZ Journey

    573 Student Visa - Master of Health Science
    May 2013 - IELTS
    June 2013 - Application, enrolment to UWS
    July 2013 - Application lodged thru AMS
    Sep 2013 - Medical examinations at NHSI
    Oct 2013 - 573 Visa grant!

    189 Independent Skilled - Medical Laboratory Scientist
    Aug 2013 - Applied for assessment (AIMS)
    Sep 2013 - Positive assessment - Med. Lab. Technician
    Mar 2014 - AIMS examination for Med. Lab. Scientist
    23 Apr 2014 - IELTS result (R-8.5, L-9.0, W-7.0, S-8.5)
    02 May 2014 - EOI submitted (65 pts)
    14 May 2014 - Application lodged
    13 Jun 2014 - CO allocated (Adelaide GSM Team 23)
    17 Jun 2014 - Medical examination
    22 Jul 2014 - Visa grant!

    Thank you to the One above.
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  • lallylimlallylim DohaTotal Reaction Points: 0Member
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    tama po ba na ang dependents functional english lang min 4.5 sa lahat ng bands pero sa primary applicant min 6 talaga? pls confirm.
    05 April 2014 - IELTS exam
    18 April 2014 - IELTS result
    awaiting for CTC docs from Pinas
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