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cylincylin SydneyTotal Reaction Points: 2Member
Hello everyone,

I just got a bad news today. My visa application was refused due to overclaiming of points in my work experience. I lodged an application with 60points, claiming 15 points for overseas work experience (8yrs of the last 10 yrs) but did not claim for IELTS (6.5 band score). However, 2 years of which was not accepted by the case officer as closely related to my nominated occupation. Please advise on what to do. :(
Will I still be able to reapply if ever I submit an IELTS with 7 band score to claim for another 5 points and still get 60 for reapplication? :( :( :(
So lost now, 140k has been wasted and i worry if i wouldn't be able to apply again. :(

Thanks.
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  • greatsoulgreatsoul SingaporeTotal Reaction Points: 37Member
    edited April 2014 Posts: 369
    @cylin Sad to heart that..

    can you give us more details? what specific body assessed your experience?
    Analyst Programmer: ANZSCO Code 261311
    Age: 30 points ; Education: 15 points ; Experience: 10 points ; PTE: 10 points
    Visa 189 - 65 pts

    * June 06, 2016: Gathering ACS requirements
    * July 02, 2016: Submitted documents to ACS for Skills Assessment
    * July 11, 2016: Suitable AQF Bachelors Degree (4yrs experience deducted)
    * July 26, 2016: PTE Mock Exam A { L:69, R:61, S:68, W:66 }
    * July 27, 2016: PTE Mock Exam B { L:67, R:56, S:64, W:63 }
    * July 29, 2016: PTE Exam { L:63, R:61, S:58, W:65 } - failed
    * Oct 28, 2016 : PTE Exam { L:67, R:64, S:69, W:66 } - failed
    * Nov 15, 2016 : PTE Exam { L:66, R:69, S:66, W:74 } - Passed!!!
    * Nov 16, 2016 : Lodge EOI - 190 {70pts} , 189 {65pts}
    * Nov 25, 2016 : Invitation NSW State Sponsorship Visa 190
    * Dec 07, 2016 : Applied 190 State Nomination
    * Dec 16, 2016 : Medical @ Sata Bedok SG
    * Dec 21, 2016 : Invitation to Apply Visa 189
    * Jan 05, 2017 : Lodge Visa 189, Frontloaded all documents except SG COC
    * Jan 11, 2017 : Uploaded SG COC
    * Jan 18, 2017 : Uploaded SG COC - revised record date
    * Jan 30, 2017 : Direct Grant (GSM Adelaide)
    * June 2017 : IED Sydney/Melbourne
    * Dec 2017 : Big Move

    IN GOD WE TRUST!
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  • lock_code2004lock_code2004 PerthTotal Reaction Points: 268Member, Moderator
    Posts: 5,037
    @cylin

    1) did you have assessment for the work experience?

    Sep 24, 2011 - IELTS (L-8 R-8 W-8 S-7.5 : OBS-8)
    Jan 04, 2012 - EA application submitted | Feb 23, 2012 - EA assessment result (IE ANZSCO 233511)
    May 8, 2012 - Lodged GSM 175 online application | June 4, 2012 - CO Allocated
    June 22, 2012 - Medicals Finalized | Aug 30, 2012 - PCCs Completed (PH, UAE, USA)
    Sep 3, 2012 - Visa Granted (IED Jun 11, 2013) Thank You Lord!
    Oct 16-28, 2012 - Initial Entry Completed - Sydney
    July 28, 2013 - Final move to Perth
    Sep 9, 2013 - Started work with the same company i worked for in UAE/USA
    Oct 28, 2013 - Moved to another company.. ;)
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  • sonsi_03sonsi_03 SydneyTotal Reaction Points: 46Member
    Posts: 1,084
    @cylin just wondering po anung job experience po yung 2 years na hindi na-aaccept ng CO?
    09-07-14 - Visa Grant! Thank you so much, Lord! IED 03-03-15
    15-09-14 - Landed in Radelaide! South Australia
    29-09-14 - Started working in Adelaide South Australia
    28-09-15 - Left the first job
    06-10-15 - Started the second job
    18-09-16 - Moved to Sydney

    "The key to everything is patience. You get the chicken by hatching the egg, not by smashing it." Arnold H. Glasow
    ...At sa wakas naging sisiw na nga ang itlog!
    Visa lodged members please share your timelines here:
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  • cylincylin SydneyTotal Reaction Points: 2Member
    Posts: 64
    @lock_code2004 yes sir

    It was VETASSESS that assessed my work experience so I relied also on the result.
    Job experience ko po is sa accounting section more on ap/ar e sa Anzco part sya bg clerical job.
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  • cylincylin SydneyTotal Reaction Points: 2Member
    Posts: 64
    Internal auditor pala ang nominated occupation ko. (There's something wrong with my connection, d agad nakapagpost ng comment.
    Vetassess assessed my previous work experiences including the 2-yr accounting job so i relied on the result.
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  • lock_code2004lock_code2004 PerthTotal Reaction Points: 268Member, Moderator
    Posts: 5,037
    @cylin - oh no.. nag email ba ang CO, to explain why it was not counted as related to your nominated occupation? or basta na lang sinabi na hindi sya kasali?

    Sep 24, 2011 - IELTS (L-8 R-8 W-8 S-7.5 : OBS-8)
    Jan 04, 2012 - EA application submitted | Feb 23, 2012 - EA assessment result (IE ANZSCO 233511)
    May 8, 2012 - Lodged GSM 175 online application | June 4, 2012 - CO Allocated
    June 22, 2012 - Medicals Finalized | Aug 30, 2012 - PCCs Completed (PH, UAE, USA)
    Sep 3, 2012 - Visa Granted (IED Jun 11, 2013) Thank You Lord!
    Oct 16-28, 2012 - Initial Entry Completed - Sydney
    July 28, 2013 - Final move to Perth
    Sep 9, 2013 - Started work with the same company i worked for in UAE/USA
    Oct 28, 2013 - Moved to another company.. ;)
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  • cylincylin SydneyTotal Reaction Points: 2Member
    Posts: 64
    My explanation naman po qouting the duties and responsibilities stated in my COE and referring it as closely related to anzsco Accounts Clerk rather than Internal Auditor.
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  • lock_code2004lock_code2004 PerthTotal Reaction Points: 268Member, Moderator
    Posts: 5,037
    @cylin ok.. In the end, as stated in immi website the CO has the last authority whether to give points or not to all your claimed points..

    You can appeal, but that is a long and costly process..

    I guess the best thing for you to do now is to get you ielts 7.0 and re apply while your assessment is still valid..

    Dont give up.. Goodluck!'
    Sep 24, 2011 - IELTS (L-8 R-8 W-8 S-7.5 : OBS-8)
    Jan 04, 2012 - EA application submitted | Feb 23, 2012 - EA assessment result (IE ANZSCO 233511)
    May 8, 2012 - Lodged GSM 175 online application | June 4, 2012 - CO Allocated
    June 22, 2012 - Medicals Finalized | Aug 30, 2012 - PCCs Completed (PH, UAE, USA)
    Sep 3, 2012 - Visa Granted (IED Jun 11, 2013) Thank You Lord!
    Oct 16-28, 2012 - Initial Entry Completed - Sydney
    July 28, 2013 - Final move to Perth
    Sep 9, 2013 - Started work with the same company i worked for in UAE/USA
    Oct 28, 2013 - Moved to another company.. ;)
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  • cylincylin SydneyTotal Reaction Points: 2Member
    Posts: 64
    Yes, i guess that's my last chance sir.
    Do you have any idea sir if i can still re apply once I nail my Ielts? Does the visa refusal doesn't ban me in reapplying or submitting another EOI?
    I couldn't find any complete info on the internet of any similar cases as mine so I'm not quite sure on what to do. I plan to send an email to them to enlighten me.
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  • vhoythoyvhoythoy MelbourneTotal Reaction Points: 211Member, Moderator
    Posts: 1,550
    Yes, i guess that's my last chance sir.
    Do you have any idea sir if i can still re apply once I nail my Ielts? Does the visa refusal doesn't ban me in reapplying or submitting another EOI?
    I couldn't find any complete info on the internet of any similar cases as mine so I'm not quite sure on what to do. I plan to send an email to them to enlighten me.
    When you reapply does it mean you need to pay again the visa processing fees? Anyone know about this.

    Do your IELTS asap Cyril. You can make it just don't give up. Godbless and Goodluck
    ANZSCO 221214 - Internal Auditor
    19 Jan 13 - Academic IELTS Results - passed
    12 July 13 - Vetassess Assessment + Point Test Advice: Positive
    03 Nov 13 - Invitation Accepted 70 points
    19 Dec 13 - Lodged Visa 189
    07 Feb 14 - Visa Granted
    04 Aug 14 - Initial Entry Date requirement
    26 July 14 - Actual IED to Melbourne
    May 2015 - Big Move
    June 2015 - Got a permanent role in Melbourne
    Apr 2016 - Got a contract consultancy role in Melbourne
    May 2016 - Got permanent role and moved to Toowooba, Queensland

    And now...... living the life that i have imagined

    "A great photograph is one that fully expresses what one feels, in the deepest sense, about what is being photographed" - Ansel Adams

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  • cylincylin SydneyTotal Reaction Points: 2Member
    Posts: 64
    Yes I will soon. Gotta nail it once and for all. :) PinaSmile pag my time. :D

    Thanks for all the help and comfort. Thanks Sir @lock_code2004 and Sir Edwin aka vhoythoy, you've patiently answered all my querries. :)
    jolie
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  • vhoythoyvhoythoy MelbourneTotal Reaction Points: 211Member, Moderator
    edited April 2014 Posts: 1,550
    Yes I will soon. Gotta nail it once and for all. :) PinaSmile pag my time. :D

    Thanks for all the help and comfort. Thanks Sir @lock_code2004 and Sir Edwin aka vhoythoy, you've patiently answered all my querries. :)
    Good luck wag masisiraan ng loob. Ganyan din ako last year ng madiskaril Canadian dreams ko. Never give up. Para may kasabayan akong Internal Auditor ang occupation sa Australia =)
    ANZSCO 221214 - Internal Auditor
    19 Jan 13 - Academic IELTS Results - passed
    12 July 13 - Vetassess Assessment + Point Test Advice: Positive
    03 Nov 13 - Invitation Accepted 70 points
    19 Dec 13 - Lodged Visa 189
    07 Feb 14 - Visa Granted
    04 Aug 14 - Initial Entry Date requirement
    26 July 14 - Actual IED to Melbourne
    May 2015 - Big Move
    June 2015 - Got a permanent role in Melbourne
    Apr 2016 - Got a contract consultancy role in Melbourne
    May 2016 - Got permanent role and moved to Toowooba, Queensland

    And now...... living the life that i have imagined

    "A great photograph is one that fully expresses what one feels, in the deepest sense, about what is being photographed" - Ansel Adams

    cylin mariem joy94
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  • sflor88sflor88 WoolloongabbaTotal Reaction Points: 1Member
    Posts: 108
    @cylin - nag re apply ka na?
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  • hopeful_meahopeful_mea Whyalla, South AustraliaTotal Reaction Points: 29Member
    Posts: 436
    @cylin good luck dear! ok lang yan go lang ng go! =) you'll make it..
    Accountant (221111)
    Mar 2014 IELTS Davao L7.5 R7 S8 W6.5
    Dec 2015 Discovered PTE
    5 Jan 16 PTE - L82 R84 S71 W83
    2 Feb 16 CPAA Positive assessment, EOI 60, NSW 65
    4 Feb 16 PTE - L88 R76 S65 W90
    22 Feb 16 PTE - L84 R74 S49 W90
    29 May16 EOI update 65, NSW 70
    16 Jun 16 PTE - L80 R83 S61 W90
    20 Sep 16 PTE - L86 R83 S74 W90
    2 Mar 17 PTE - L90 R90 S87 W90
    4 Mar 17 EOI update 75, NSW 80
    15 Mar 17 ITA received
    31 Mar 17 Medicals cleared (primary and dependents)
    12 Apr 17 Lodged 189 VISA
    22 Apr 17 VISA grant DG
    1 Nov 17 Big Move (Whyalla, south au)
    6 nov 17. 1st day of work

    In God's time..
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  • familiaCfamiliaC PragueTotal Reaction Points: 6Member
    Posts: 189
    @cylin God bless sa re-application mo. have faith. Nabasa ko itong post mo kasi naghahanap ako ng mga situations about claiming points for employment.

    may questiobn sana ako, nung naglodge ka ng EOI with 60 pts mabilis ka ba nainvite to lodge visa? anong timeline? thanks
    ANZSCO Code 261311
    31.07.2014 - ACS Skills Assessment Result (favorable)
    14.11.2014 - IELTS Result R=7.5; L=7.5; S=7.0; W=7.5
    16.11.2014 - EOI submitted
    28.11.2014 - Received invitation to lodge visa subclass 189
    04.12.2014 - Lodged visa subclass 189
    08.12.2014 - Uploaded documents
    22.12.2014 - Medicals done
    28.01.2015 - job offer in Sydney (Salamat po, Panginoon!)
    10.02.2015 - received Golden Email. DIRECT GRANT. Salamat po, Lord!

    Luke 1:37 For nothing is impossible with GOD.
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  • wizzwizz MelbourneTotal Reaction Points: 59Member
    Posts: 698
    @cylin just saw this now. If i'm not mistaken halos magkasabayan tayo sa vetassess. hopefully maayos na din ito soon. all the best sayo and keep praying :)
    ANZSCO 149311

    31 May 13 - Vetassess Requirements Acknowledge
    22 June 13 - IELTS Exam at IDP Singapore
    5 July 13 - IELTS Passed
    30 Aug 13 - Vetassess Results - Positive + EOI Submitted
    4 Sept 13 - Initial Contact WA SS
    5 Sept 13 - Invited to apply for WA SS
    9 Sept 13 - WA SS approved!
    12 Sept 13 - Lodged Visa 190
    23 Sept 13 - Medical Examination - SATA Bedok SG
    27 Sept 13 - Medicals Uploaded
    21 Oct 13 - CO allocated (Adelaide GSM Team 6, MN)
    1 Nov 13 - SG PCC submitted
    5 Dec 13 - Visa Granted! To God be the Glory!
    IED: 26 Sep 14

    1 May 14 - Touchdown Perth! :D
    12 June 14 - First day of work. God will always provide. :)

    Psalm 37:4 Delight yourself in the Lord;
    And He will give you the desires of your heart.
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  • cylincylin SydneyTotal Reaction Points: 2Member
    Posts: 64
    @cylin - nag re apply ka na?
    Hello flor, di pa ko nakare-apply. Masama na naman dahil ganon pa din ang result ng ielts ko sa s&w parts.
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  • cylincylin SydneyTotal Reaction Points: 2Member
    edited July 2014 Posts: 64
    Hi @familiaC, mabilis lang akong nainvite...siguro nakahabol ako sa cut-off nung time na yun kaya nakuha agad ako. Mga 2-3 weeks lang yata.

    Hi wizz, thanks for the encouragement. :) you too all the best sa appication.
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  • IslanderndCityIslanderndCity AdelaideTotal Reaction Points: 139Member, Moderator
    Posts: 2,260
    @cylin can you share your timeline po? honestly, itong case mo pa ang nabasa ko dito na refused ang visa application. sana marating mo pa rin ang finish line sa journey na'to. God bless.
    Assessed Occupation: Industrial Engineer (IE 233511)
    Achieved Goal: Australia PR (Permanent Resident). Thanks God!

    ...sharpening my core gifts now...
    ...working on new, better goals...

    Bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. ~Luke 6:28~
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  • BoyPintadosBoyPintados SydneyTotal Reaction Points: 36Member
    Posts: 629
    @cylin hi cylin! wag lang ma depress ha, smile pa rin... if you need help sa ielts we can help... meanwhile, e sort out mo muna ulit yung mga documents. okie? aja! kaya yan! ;-)
    Visa 189/190 Tracker (Please click and key in your updates): http://goo.gl/HdIYoG
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    ANZSCO 233111 Chemical Engineer [Visa 189]

    27.APR.2013___IELTS GT Exam - British Council [Result: 10-Points Eligible]
    19.JUL.2013___Submitted CDR to Engineers Australia (EA) via DHL
    16.OCT.2013___Received Notice of Shortcoming (EA) via email
    21.OCT.2013___Responded to EA via email
    26.NOV.2013___Received Positive Assessment Result from EA via snail mail dated 11.Nov.2013 (Praise Jah!)
    03.FEB.2014___EOI Submitted Online [60 points only]
    28.APR.2014___Received Invitation to Lodge Skilled-Independent Permanent Visa Application (Praise Jah!)
    12.JUN.2014___Lodged Visa Application; Uploaded Required Documents / Frontloaded NBI / Police Clearance / Etc.
    05.JUL.2014___Completed Medical Requirements at Nationwide Health (3-5 working days to DIBP)
    12.JUL.2014___Frontloaded Form 80
    17.JUL.2014___Complete Medical Report Uploaded to DIBP: 'Organise your health examinations' was changed to 'No health examinations are required for this person for this visa subclass based on the information provided to the Department of Immigration and Border Protection.' (Praise Jah!)
    06.AUG.2014___CO Allocation (Team 23 GSM Adelaide; CO Initials EO) [55 Days From Lodgement] (Praise Jah!)
    18.AUG.2014___Visa Grant (Golden Email Received from new CO: MD) [67 Days From Lodgement] [IED July2015] (Praise Jah!) GOAL! THANK YOU LORD!

    ==============
    |Padayon| Keep a stronger faith| All is well|
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