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paris_hiponparis_hipon SydneyTotal Reaction Points: 5Member
edited August 2012 in Other Info Bout OZ Posts: 203
Hi all. Just want to ask for people whos been to the places above, can you please share the difference between the 5 cities? in terms of environment, work, income & lifestyle. I am headed to Sydney in spetember though Ive never been there I chose it since im guessing its one of the fast paced city in australia and I think that fits my preference. I dont want to stay in a laid back place yet.

I recently had a friend who came from vacation from melbourne and sydney. He said he prefers melbourne from the two. He said melbourne was easy to get around, very lively at night and theres lot of historic bldgs around. Nag second thought tuloy ako dikolam kase which is better. So hope you guys can share your experiences in living in Sydney, Adelaide, Brisbane, Perth & Melbourne. Thanks in advance.
21.jan.12 - Vetasses Positive
16.may.12 - 4th Ielts - IDP - L8.5 R7.5 W7.0 S7.5 = 7.5 - Pass
15.june.12 - State sponsorship Approved
19.june.12 - 176 Visa applied at DIAC
20.july.2012 - Singapore & Phi. Police checks finalised
17.aug.2012 - VISA GRANT
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  • TasBurrfootTasBurrfoot OsakaTotal Reaction Points: 261Member, Moderator
    Posts: 4,297
    Hi all. Just want to ask for people whos been to the places above, can you please share the difference between the 5 cities? in terms of environment, work, income & lifestyle. I am headed to Sydney in spetember though Ive never been there I chose it since im guessing its one of the fast paced city in australia and I think that fits my preference. I dont want to stay in a laid back place yet.

    I recently had a friend who came from vacation from melbourne and sydney. He said he prefers melbourne from the two. He said melbourne was easy to get around, very lively at night and theres lot of historic bldgs around. Nag second thought tuloy ako dikolam kase which is better. So hope you guys can share your experiences in living in Sydney, Adelaide, Brisbane, Perth & Melbourne. Thanks in advance.
    Beggar can never be chosers - I consider myself a beggar for now... :)

    BUT for the sake of answering your question, mas prefer ko cguro Melbourne and Sydney as most of the opportunities for me and my wife are there (investment banking, finance and audit) - However I am biased towards Melbourne as we have been there just recently and we really love the place. Yes your friend is right, it is very easy to get around the city center.

    But mind you, it is a very expensive city - even for us who earns Singapore Dollars. As me and my wife are budget travellers always (survived Europe for SGD2500 per pax in a span of our 2wks honeymoon including airfare), we were shocked with the food, accomodation and the price of guided tours. I heard it can be more expensive in Sydney...

    We do hope we can be able to reach the AU dream in due time... Just like you, sawang sawa na kami dito sa little red dot. :)
    Primary Applicant: Wife
    Accountant (General): 221111

    04 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module)
    07 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module) Speaking Part
    17 Aug 2012 - IELTS Results (L: 8.5 R: 8.5 W: 7.0 S: 7.5 OBS: 8.0)
    24 Aug 2012 - CPAA Submitted (docs mailed same day via SG EMS)
    25 Sep 2012 - Received +Skills Assessment from CPAA
    25 Sep 2012 - Lodged EOI Application with 70pts
    30 Sep 2012 - Invited by DIAC to apply for 189 Visa
    01 Oct 2012 - Submitted 189 Visa Application
    20 Oct 2012 - Medical Examinations
    23 Oct 2012 - CO Assigned; Team 7 - SA
    05 Nov 2012 - Submitted SG PCC and NBI Clearance
    06 Nov 2012 - Visa Granted (IED: 23/10/2013)
    03 Apr 2013 - Flight to MEL
    03 Jun 2013 - started work
    12 Jun 2013 - wife started work
    15 Jun 2016 - applied for citizenship
    29 Jul 2016 - citizenship examination
    20 Oct 2016 - Aussie, Aussie, Aussie Oi Oi Oi!!
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  • MetaformMetaform MelbourneTotal Reaction Points: 10Member
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    Not considering the job market, here a list of World's Most Livable Cities of 2012, with Melbourne topping it two years in a row.

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/08/melbourne-tops-worlds-most-livable-cities-list/
    CO and Visa Grant: 9 Oct 2012
    The beginning of the rest of our lives: January 4, 2013
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  • paris_hiponparis_hipon SydneyTotal Reaction Points: 5Member
    edited August 2012 Posts: 203
    Good for you tas. I guess i need to bring a lot of pancit canton and chicken noodles when I get there baka mamulubi ako pag lagi akong kumain sa labas haha! Ako naman squatter pagdating dun no home no job hehehe. Bahala na si batman!

    Singapore is a good country to live, if yer earning $4t sgd plus. But if not better get yer butt out of it since in the long run, you would realise yer just wasting your time, hard to save money, working long extra hours w/o ot pays, and unstable work passes for foreigners.

    Hope theres more people who can share on this thread. It would be great help to new migrants to decide what state should they stay on to. :D :D :D
    21.jan.12 - Vetasses Positive
    16.may.12 - 4th Ielts - IDP - L8.5 R7.5 W7.0 S7.5 = 7.5 - Pass
    15.june.12 - State sponsorship Approved
    19.june.12 - 176 Visa applied at DIAC
    20.july.2012 - Singapore & Phi. Police checks finalised
    17.aug.2012 - VISA GRANT
    29.sept.2012 - Landed Sydney Alone! @_@ #$%&*#$^$
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  • TasBurrfootTasBurrfoot OsakaTotal Reaction Points: 261Member, Moderator
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    Good for you tas. I guess i need to bring a lot of pancit canton and chicken noodles when I get there baka mamulubi ako pag lagi akong kumain sa labas haha! Ako naman squatter pagdating dun no home no job hehehe. Bahala na si batman!

    Singapore is a good country to live, if yer earning $4t sgd plus. But if not better get yer butt out of it since in the long run, you would realise yer just wasting your time, hard to save money, working long extra hours w/o ot pays, and unstable work passes for foreigners.

    Hope theres more people who can share on this thread. It would be great help to new migrants to decide what state should they stay on to. :D :D :D
    Yeah, Singapore is a good place to live for some time... We have been lucky enough to live here the past 4 years and we love the cheap food culture here (something nowhere to be found in Australia).

    But at the end of the day, no matter if you are earning tons of money here if your future is not stable (no PR for both of us), you simply would want to find a place where you can start building your future.

    Heck, even PRs here are already feeling the disadvantage of not being a Singaporean as benefits are being slashed left and right every so often!

    Anyway, I am getting out of topic!!

    Keep firing away the insights guys... :)
    Primary Applicant: Wife
    Accountant (General): 221111

    04 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module)
    07 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module) Speaking Part
    17 Aug 2012 - IELTS Results (L: 8.5 R: 8.5 W: 7.0 S: 7.5 OBS: 8.0)
    24 Aug 2012 - CPAA Submitted (docs mailed same day via SG EMS)
    25 Sep 2012 - Received +Skills Assessment from CPAA
    25 Sep 2012 - Lodged EOI Application with 70pts
    30 Sep 2012 - Invited by DIAC to apply for 189 Visa
    01 Oct 2012 - Submitted 189 Visa Application
    20 Oct 2012 - Medical Examinations
    23 Oct 2012 - CO Assigned; Team 7 - SA
    05 Nov 2012 - Submitted SG PCC and NBI Clearance
    06 Nov 2012 - Visa Granted (IED: 23/10/2013)
    03 Apr 2013 - Flight to MEL
    03 Jun 2013 - started work
    12 Jun 2013 - wife started work
    15 Jun 2016 - applied for citizenship
    29 Jul 2016 - citizenship examination
    20 Oct 2016 - Aussie, Aussie, Aussie Oi Oi Oi!!
    Nat
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  • JClemJClem MelbourneTotal Reaction Points: 6Member
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    We're moving to Melbourne this October and same with you, @paris_hipon, squatter kami ng husband ko. Wala pang house and job. :) We chose Melbourne kasi andun yung opportunities sa skills namin which is IT. Sa Sydney madami din naman opportunities pero kasi mas laid back sa Melby and lower cost of living. :) But if ever, may makuha kaming offer before moving to Australia, wherever it is, dun muna kami. :) God bless!
    Nominated Occupation: Software Engineer (261313) - Husband is the primary applicant.

    10.21.2012 - Arrived in Melbourne. This is the day that the Lord has made. :)
    03.26.2012 - Visa granted. God is good, all the time! All the time, God is good! :)
    03.23.2012 - PCC submitted and medicals finalized
    03.02.2012 - Application being processed further / CO assigned
    06.26.2011 - Lodged Visa 175 application
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  • LokiJrLokiJr Quezon CityTotal Reaction Points: 24Member, Moderator
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    Based sa EIU Global Rankings, Melbourne ang pinaka-magandang tirahan sa mundo ngayon...#8 lang ata Sydney hehe...



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  • aldousnowaldousnow SydneyTotal Reaction Points: 14Member
    Posts: 494
    Melbourne FTW! Hehehe. Pasensya na bias ako. Hehe. Eto short description ko.
    Melbourne = half city + half park + more trees.
    Sydney = more city + less park
    Adelaide = a very laid back place but low cost of living
    Perth = medyo mainit compare sa first 3 (i dunno kung laid back place din)
    Brisbane = kung gusto mo klimang pinas dito ka pumunta :)
    Canberra = nandito malacanang palace.. At malamig:P yun lang alam ko. Hehe.
    Darwin = Mars + Desert :P
    Skilled – Family Sponsored (Migrant) Visa (Subclass 176)
    Nominated Occupation : Developer Programmer (261312)
    02/28/2011 - ACS Finalized the Case (261312, PIM3, Group A)
    03/07/2011 - IELTS Result Received L- 6.5, R-7.0, W-6.0, S-7.0, Overall Band Score-6.5 (BC)
    03/13/2011 - Lodged Visa Application (Online)
    11/09/2011 - CO Allocation
    12/02/2011 - Medicals Finalised
    12/02/2011 - FINISH LINE!! (Visa Grant)
    03/23/2012 - My first day @Melbourne
    04/14/2012 - Started looking for a .Net Developer job
    06/04/2012 - And finally got one! :)
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  • TasBurrfootTasBurrfoot OsakaTotal Reaction Points: 261Member, Moderator
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    So far:

    Melbourne - 5
    ATR - ZERO! :)

    Keep it coming guys...
    Primary Applicant: Wife
    Accountant (General): 221111

    04 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module)
    07 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module) Speaking Part
    17 Aug 2012 - IELTS Results (L: 8.5 R: 8.5 W: 7.0 S: 7.5 OBS: 8.0)
    24 Aug 2012 - CPAA Submitted (docs mailed same day via SG EMS)
    25 Sep 2012 - Received +Skills Assessment from CPAA
    25 Sep 2012 - Lodged EOI Application with 70pts
    30 Sep 2012 - Invited by DIAC to apply for 189 Visa
    01 Oct 2012 - Submitted 189 Visa Application
    20 Oct 2012 - Medical Examinations
    23 Oct 2012 - CO Assigned; Team 7 - SA
    05 Nov 2012 - Submitted SG PCC and NBI Clearance
    06 Nov 2012 - Visa Granted (IED: 23/10/2013)
    03 Apr 2013 - Flight to MEL
    03 Jun 2013 - started work
    12 Jun 2013 - wife started work
    15 Jun 2016 - applied for citizenship
    29 Jul 2016 - citizenship examination
    20 Oct 2016 - Aussie, Aussie, Aussie Oi Oi Oi!!
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  • TinaRTinaR BraddonTotal Reaction Points: 3De-activated
    edited September 2012 Posts: 69
    F!
    "One should be pragmatic when it comes to realities in life."
    kisses1417
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  • TasBurrfootTasBurrfoot OsakaTotal Reaction Points: 261Member, Moderator
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    Hi, to answer your question you need to have a reality check first:

    1. gusto mo ba ng tahimik or magimik ka?
    2. ano ang klase ng trabaho mo?
    3. single ka lang ba or mag-asawa lang kayo or may mga anak ka?
    4. saan ang mga relatives mo?
    5. mahilig ka ba sa mga outdoor activities or home buddy ka lang?
    .... and many others... but the ultimate question is...enough ba ang pera na dala mo at stability ng kikitain mo? You can easily choose saan mang region as long as alam mo ano ang capability mo.

    Melbourne - maraming work for IT and hilig ng mga Asians as in ang daming Asians duon, mixed ng laid back and fast paced lalo na kung city living ka. Work wise not sure ano ang influx as of now. Ang QVB dito ay isang market place (palengke).

    Sydney - magastos ang city living marami raming Asians but dominated ng mga caucasians, damang dama ang indirect discrimination dahil pag nasabi mo na taga Western suburb ka or basta hindi ka taga Eastern suburb, Northern Beaches, or lower north shore. Work wise as of this writing was na masyado umasa dahil dominated ng mga Brit, Irish, Europeans and Americans kaya medyo yung good positions nawawala sa mga Asians. Ang QVB dito ay isang posh mall (branded boutiques).

    Adelaide - kaunti work, unless gusto mo ng mga defense jobs or anything na blue collar. Tahimik na lugar and mura ang mga rental, food plus laid back.

    Brisbane - average ang gastos, work are fine, people here love to party always, mas easy going sila but unfortunately nakakatakot lalo na sa area ng Brisbane dahil sa flooding. Although, flooding is everywhere and sanay naman Pinoy.

    Perth - dami pera promise. Work here pays more than any other states. Maganda. Enough said.

    Darwin - well madaming indigent but sila naman talaga ang first settler dito sa Australia so walang kaso. Ang weather parang Pinas. The good thing here is pwede kang magbalik balikan sa Pinas dahil ang lapit mo na at kalahati ng plane fare ang kaltas compared sa manggaling ka sa Melbourne or Sydney.

    Tasmania - Kaunti Pinoy dito. Think about a real laid back na ang hilig mo e sailing and usually kasama mo e caucasians tapos parati kang naghohoneymoon. Weather e mas malamig kesa sa iba. Friendly mga tao.

    Canberra - kung ang hilig mo e sa bahay lang, tahimik na kalsada, kaunting tao and of course government jobs but then kung hindi ka PR with number of years na stay dito or Australian citizen mahihirapan ka makakuha ng work dahil kaunti lang ang private companies dito majority nasa Melbourne and Sydney.

    Cost of living: rental cheapest sa Adelaide, work for Asians and hindi management positions mas marami sa Brisbane, kung mining ka naman or tractor etc sa Perth ka na, kung gusto mong masira ang savings mo at matagalan ka bago makanap ng work e magSydney ka as of this writing ha not sure in the following quarters.

    To be honest, it all boils down kung magkano ang savings mo at ano ang line of work mo dahil lahat naman sila may gimikan din, parehas ng mall hours, parehas naman in terms of policies and procedures ng banks, centrelinks etc. Pagkakaiba lang talaga e yung number of attractions. Anyway, majority naman dito in due time may sasakyan kasi mahirap ang wala so madali na ang pumunta sa ibat ibang lugar. Eversince ang sinusuggest ko dun muna saan ang work dahil pag pinilit nyo kung saan nyo gusto tapos wala naman kayong work e maghihirap kayo.

    Be wise and practical saka na sumunod ang saan kaya ako titira dapat saan kaya ang maraming work sa parehas ko then build your dream from there. Maraming Pilipino ang nahihirapan dahil inuuna nila yung ay gusto ko dito ako titira kasi sabi ni ganito maganda dito, unahin nyo yung saan kaya may trabaho na papabor sa akin. Dahil madali ng lumipat sa gusto mong lugar kung nakaestablish ka na ng work experience mo dito. Hindi counted dito ang international work experience kahit sa Italy, Spain or SIngapore pa yan. Pang Brit, Europeans and Americans lang nagwowork yan dito so please be mindful dahil maraming false hope.

    It is nice to live here in Australia but you have to be practical din hindi yung excited dahil nakaalis na ng Pinas. Maraming doctor na nagiging nurse or worst taga extract lang ng dugo, mga managers na pumapatol bilang cleaners or blue collar which is not bad dahil mas malaki pa nga sahod nila, mga magaganda ang work status sa Pinas pagdating dito unemployed. Kung di ka practical magugutom ka. And this is applicable kahit saang bansa ka lilipat. Look for work first then dream.

    I hope hindi ko sinira ang pangarap but please samahan nyo ng makatotohanan ang pangarap.

    "Maraming nagutom dahil sa pangarap pero walang naghirap sa taong praktical"

    Ta.
    Sobrang seryoso naman ito Ms TinraR but yeah good insights here! :)
    Primary Applicant: Wife
    Accountant (General): 221111

    04 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module)
    07 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module) Speaking Part
    17 Aug 2012 - IELTS Results (L: 8.5 R: 8.5 W: 7.0 S: 7.5 OBS: 8.0)
    24 Aug 2012 - CPAA Submitted (docs mailed same day via SG EMS)
    25 Sep 2012 - Received +Skills Assessment from CPAA
    25 Sep 2012 - Lodged EOI Application with 70pts
    30 Sep 2012 - Invited by DIAC to apply for 189 Visa
    01 Oct 2012 - Submitted 189 Visa Application
    20 Oct 2012 - Medical Examinations
    23 Oct 2012 - CO Assigned; Team 7 - SA
    05 Nov 2012 - Submitted SG PCC and NBI Clearance
    06 Nov 2012 - Visa Granted (IED: 23/10/2013)
    03 Apr 2013 - Flight to MEL
    03 Jun 2013 - started work
    12 Jun 2013 - wife started work
    15 Jun 2016 - applied for citizenship
    29 Jul 2016 - citizenship examination
    20 Oct 2016 - Aussie, Aussie, Aussie Oi Oi Oi!!
    Nat
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  • dreambigdreambig SingaporeTotal Reaction Points: 0Member
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    @TinaR Thanks for sharing that TinaR :)
    Accountant (General) (221111)
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  • TinaRTinaR BraddonTotal Reaction Points: 3De-activated
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    Hi, to answer your question you need to have a reality check first:

    1. gusto mo ba ng tahimik or magimik ka?
    2. ano ang klase ng trabaho mo?
    3. single ka lang ba or mag-asawa lang kayo or may mga anak ka?
    4. saan ang mga relatives mo?
    5. mahilig ka ba sa mga outdoor activities or home buddy ka lang?
    .... and many others... but the ultimate question is...enough ba ang pera na dala mo at stability ng kikitain mo? You can easily choose saan mang region as long as alam mo ano ang capability mo.

    Melbourne - maraming work for IT and hilig ng mga Asians as in ang daming Asians duon, mixed ng laid back and fast paced lalo na kung city living ka. Work wise not sure ano ang influx as of now. Ang QVB dito ay isang market place (palengke).

    Sydney - magastos ang city living marami raming Asians but dominated ng mga caucasians, damang dama ang indirect discrimination dahil pag nasabi mo na taga Western suburb ka or basta hindi ka taga Eastern suburb, Northern Beaches, or lower north shore. Work wise as of this writing was na masyado umasa dahil dominated ng mga Brit, Irish, Europeans and Americans kaya medyo yung good positions nawawala sa mga Asians. Ang QVB dito ay isang posh mall (branded boutiques).

    Adelaide - kaunti work, unless gusto mo ng mga defense jobs or anything na blue collar. Tahimik na lugar and mura ang mga rental, food plus laid back.

    Brisbane - average ang gastos, work are fine, people here love to party always, mas easy going sila but unfortunately nakakatakot lalo na sa area ng Brisbane dahil sa flooding. Although, flooding is everywhere and sanay naman Pinoy.

    Perth - dami pera promise. Work here pays more than any other states. Maganda. Enough said.

    Darwin - well madaming indigent but sila naman talaga ang first settler dito sa Australia so walang kaso. Ang weather parang Pinas. The good thing here is pwede kang magbalik balikan sa Pinas dahil ang lapit mo na at kalahati ng plane fare ang kaltas compared sa manggaling ka sa Melbourne or Sydney.

    Tasmania - Kaunti Pinoy dito. Think about a real laid back na ang hilig mo e sailing and usually kasama mo e caucasians tapos parati kang naghohoneymoon. Weather e mas malamig kesa sa iba. Friendly mga tao.

    Canberra - kung ang hilig mo e sa bahay lang, tahimik na kalsada, kaunting tao and of course government jobs but then kung hindi ka PR with number of years na stay dito or Australian citizen mahihirapan ka makakuha ng work dahil kaunti lang ang private companies dito majority nasa Melbourne and Sydney.

    Cost of living: rental cheapest sa Adelaide, work for Asians and hindi management positions mas marami sa Brisbane, kung mining ka naman or tractor etc sa Perth ka na, kung gusto mong masira ang savings mo at matagalan ka bago makanap ng work e magSydney ka as of this writing ha not sure in the following quarters.

    To be honest, it all boils down kung magkano ang savings mo at ano ang line of work mo dahil lahat naman sila may gimikan din, parehas ng mall hours, parehas naman in terms of policies and procedures ng banks, centrelinks etc. Pagkakaiba lang talaga e yung number of attractions. Anyway, majority naman dito in due time may sasakyan kasi mahirap ang wala so madali na ang pumunta sa ibat ibang lugar. Eversince ang sinusuggest ko dun muna saan ang work dahil pag pinilit nyo kung saan nyo gusto tapos wala naman kayong work e maghihirap kayo.

    Be wise and practical saka na sumunod ang saan kaya ako titira dapat saan kaya ang maraming work sa parehas ko then build your dream from there. Maraming Pilipino ang nahihirapan dahil inuuna nila yung ay gusto ko dito ako titira kasi sabi ni ganito maganda dito, unahin nyo yung saan kaya may trabaho na papabor sa akin. Dahil madali ng lumipat sa gusto mong lugar kung nakaestablish ka na ng work experience mo dito. Hindi counted dito ang international work experience kahit sa Italy, Spain or SIngapore pa yan. Pang Brit, Europeans and Americans lang nagwowork yan dito so please be mindful dahil maraming false hope.

    It is nice to live here in Australia but you have to be practical din hindi yung excited dahil nakaalis na ng Pinas. Maraming doctor na nagiging nurse or worst taga extract lang ng dugo, mga managers na pumapatol bilang cleaners or blue collar which is not bad dahil mas malaki pa nga sahod nila, mga magaganda ang work status sa Pinas pagdating dito unemployed. Kung di ka practical magugutom ka. And this is applicable kahit saang bansa ka lilipat. Look for work first then dream.

    I hope hindi ko sinira ang pangarap but please samahan nyo ng makatotohanan ang pangarap.

    "Maraming nagutom dahil sa pangarap pero walang naghirap sa taong praktical"

    Ta.


    Sobrang seryoso naman ito Ms TinraR but yeah good insights here! :)
    Ganun ba hehehe sige baguhin ko sagot ko... kindly google na lang po ano difference. :)

    "One should be pragmatic when it comes to realities in life."
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  • LokiJrLokiJr Quezon CityTotal Reaction Points: 24Member, Moderator
    Posts: 2,616
    I honestly believe that if you are just starting out your life in Australia, you need to establish a stable job in places like Sydney or Melbourne first (exception would be if you're an engineer or a miner...then Perth would be a perfect starting place)

    Pag malaki laki na naiipon niyo at may solid Aussie work experience na kayo then maybe the less populated states like Adelaide would be a practical alternative :)



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  • paris_hiponparis_hipon SydneyTotal Reaction Points: 5Member
    Posts: 203
    @TinaR Thanks po Tina for sharing this. I know being an ofw doesnt mean working overseas doesnt always make u a successful person. You can be overseas but you eat instant noodles most of the days and barely save enough from yer salary. I can relate to that cuz im like that lolz cuz i give in easily to shopping whenever I see discount sales in the mall and here in sg, shopping malls are just everywhere!

    I am also thinking what others would mostly do in moving in aus, find a work first in the city and move somewhere laid back after some time. Currently im not yet ready to live a laid back life at the moment i find it boring thats why im settling first in sydney. If I save enough money and maybe after I get older Ill move somewhere quiter maybe in Adelaide or tasmania lol.
    21.jan.12 - Vetasses Positive
    16.may.12 - 4th Ielts - IDP - L8.5 R7.5 W7.0 S7.5 = 7.5 - Pass
    15.june.12 - State sponsorship Approved
    19.june.12 - 176 Visa applied at DIAC
    20.july.2012 - Singapore & Phi. Police checks finalised
    17.aug.2012 - VISA GRANT
    29.sept.2012 - Landed Sydney Alone! @_@ #$%&*#$^$
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  • mandandmandand MelbourneTotal Reaction Points: 1Member
    Posts: 84
    hi paris-hipon, noticed na meron ka state sponsorship. ok lang ba mag-work sa ibang state?
    June 13 2012 - ACS application, July 21 20012 - IELTS exam, July 24 2012 - ACS result suitable, Aug 3 2012 - IELTS result, my EOI submitted, Aug 24 2012 - hubby ACS application, Sep 1 2012 - hubby IELTS exam, Sep 14 2012 - hubby IELTS result, Sep 24 2012 - hubby ACS result, hubby EOI submitted, Oct 1 2012 - 189 visa invitation (hubby primary), application lodged, Oct 26 - CO allocated - Adelaide GSM Team 7
    Nov 7 - Visa grant. June 13 2013 - Landed, July 18 - Job Offer . To God be the Glory!
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  • TasBurrfootTasBurrfoot OsakaTotal Reaction Points: 261Member, Moderator
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    @mandand

    my thoughts exactly...

    it may be okey for the meantime like in the longrun, should you need to apply for citizenship or extension of PR (is this the right term?) - they might not grant your request as a result of not fulfilling state sponsorship obligation.
    Primary Applicant: Wife
    Accountant (General): 221111

    04 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module)
    07 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module) Speaking Part
    17 Aug 2012 - IELTS Results (L: 8.5 R: 8.5 W: 7.0 S: 7.5 OBS: 8.0)
    24 Aug 2012 - CPAA Submitted (docs mailed same day via SG EMS)
    25 Sep 2012 - Received +Skills Assessment from CPAA
    25 Sep 2012 - Lodged EOI Application with 70pts
    30 Sep 2012 - Invited by DIAC to apply for 189 Visa
    01 Oct 2012 - Submitted 189 Visa Application
    20 Oct 2012 - Medical Examinations
    23 Oct 2012 - CO Assigned; Team 7 - SA
    05 Nov 2012 - Submitted SG PCC and NBI Clearance
    06 Nov 2012 - Visa Granted (IED: 23/10/2013)
    03 Apr 2013 - Flight to MEL
    03 Jun 2013 - started work
    12 Jun 2013 - wife started work
    15 Jun 2016 - applied for citizenship
    29 Jul 2016 - citizenship examination
    20 Oct 2016 - Aussie, Aussie, Aussie Oi Oi Oi!!
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  • paris_hiponparis_hipon SydneyTotal Reaction Points: 5Member
    edited August 2012 Posts: 203
    it is ok. Read the conditions on how to apply citizenship. It states there that you should live and work in australia for 4 years. It never stated that you should follow which state sponsored you. You are only morally ohbligated to fulfill the state sponsorship, it is not against the law not to follow it.

    I think this is a loophole in the state sponsorship, they have a certain job sponsorships for you but that job is not even in demand for that state. I think they do this just to expand the kind of workfieds they have, but in reality that job is really not in demand in that state.

    I have also asked 2 migration agents here they said the same thing, your just morally obligated and its not illegal. I do feel guilty that I wont be staying in the state that sponsored me but at the end of the day as much as I want to stay there, I need to be practical and settle at a state where my job is in demand. Notice also now that the 190 visa (previously the 176 visa) is a state sponsored visa but they no longer require you to stay there for 2 years. Why cuz I think some people dont follow it anymore.
    hi paris-hipon, noticed na meron ka state sponsorship. ok lang ba mag-work sa ibang state?
    21.jan.12 - Vetasses Positive
    16.may.12 - 4th Ielts - IDP - L8.5 R7.5 W7.0 S7.5 = 7.5 - Pass
    15.june.12 - State sponsorship Approved
    19.june.12 - 176 Visa applied at DIAC
    20.july.2012 - Singapore & Phi. Police checks finalised
    17.aug.2012 - VISA GRANT
    29.sept.2012 - Landed Sydney Alone! @_@ #$%&*#$^$
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  • mandandmandand MelbourneTotal Reaction Points: 1Member
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    on state sponsorship approval, nag-sign ka ba ng anything?
    June 13 2012 - ACS application, July 21 20012 - IELTS exam, July 24 2012 - ACS result suitable, Aug 3 2012 - IELTS result, my EOI submitted, Aug 24 2012 - hubby ACS application, Sep 1 2012 - hubby IELTS exam, Sep 14 2012 - hubby IELTS result, Sep 24 2012 - hubby ACS result, hubby EOI submitted, Oct 1 2012 - 189 visa invitation (hubby primary), application lodged, Oct 26 - CO allocated - Adelaide GSM Team 7
    Nov 7 - Visa grant. June 13 2013 - Landed, July 18 - Job Offer . To God be the Glory!
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  • TasBurrfootTasBurrfoot OsakaTotal Reaction Points: 261Member, Moderator
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    on state sponsorship approval, nag-sign ka ba ng anything?
    As far as I know there is a committment letter document...

    Forgive me @paris_hipon for playing devil's advocate but these so-called loopholes kasi pwede kang balikan nito eh... When you apply for citizenship, definitely the AU government will have a record of your visa. When they will see that you did not fulfill your committment, they may put that against you.

    Just a friendly advise, ask your gut feel again if you are very comfortable with what you are doing. If you are okey, then all the best to you! :)

    But yeah, thanks for sharing re: opinions of 2 migration agents... :) :)

    A quick question though, why did you not apply then sa NSW if you really want Sydney?
    Primary Applicant: Wife
    Accountant (General): 221111

    04 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module)
    07 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module) Speaking Part
    17 Aug 2012 - IELTS Results (L: 8.5 R: 8.5 W: 7.0 S: 7.5 OBS: 8.0)
    24 Aug 2012 - CPAA Submitted (docs mailed same day via SG EMS)
    25 Sep 2012 - Received +Skills Assessment from CPAA
    25 Sep 2012 - Lodged EOI Application with 70pts
    30 Sep 2012 - Invited by DIAC to apply for 189 Visa
    01 Oct 2012 - Submitted 189 Visa Application
    20 Oct 2012 - Medical Examinations
    23 Oct 2012 - CO Assigned; Team 7 - SA
    05 Nov 2012 - Submitted SG PCC and NBI Clearance
    06 Nov 2012 - Visa Granted (IED: 23/10/2013)
    03 Apr 2013 - Flight to MEL
    03 Jun 2013 - started work
    12 Jun 2013 - wife started work
    15 Jun 2016 - applied for citizenship
    29 Jul 2016 - citizenship examination
    20 Oct 2016 - Aussie, Aussie, Aussie Oi Oi Oi!!
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  • TinaRTinaR BraddonTotal Reaction Points: 3De-activated
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    Hi,

    Sabi ng kakilala namin na state sponsored (pinakilala sa amin Pinoy galing sa ibang bansa), wala silang nakuhang work sa Melbourne but they were fortunate to get jobs sa Sydney. So from Melbourne they flew in here in Sydney. The migration agent gave them a mail, as usual liaison or coordinator lang si agent, they were asked by immi to gave them an explanation. They gave their reply but they were given few months to do so. So ngayon work sila but they are looking for work in Melbourne para magbalik.

    Kung citizenship na iniisip nyo may wizard para dyan sa immi website. Legitimate TR & PR lang. Check nyo yung nakastamp sa visa nyo kung PR or TR. Mababasa nyo naman explicitly kung ang state sponsored e under TR. Nagbabago bago ang mga rules. Before 2 years na PR lang , apply tapos aussie na but now 4 years residency yung last year 90 days max lang labas mo or wag na at dapat PR ka more than 1 year yun tapos apply, exam tapos pledge. Sa gusto ng dual citizenship apply sa consulate or embassy ng Pinas.

    Ta.
    "One should be pragmatic when it comes to realities in life."
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