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Electronics and Communications Engineer:Engineers Australia​ or Australian Computer Society

Ric_SuizoRic_Suizo Davao CityPosts: 11Member
Hi guys,

I am an Electronics and Communications Engineer and currently working with a system integrator for 4 years plus. For the first 3 years of my employment i held the position of Auxiliary Technical Engineer wherein my job was to implement and provide technical support for auxiliary systems like Door Access, Elevator Access, Public Address, CCTV(both analog and IP) after the 3 years i was transferred to a different department and promoted to Systems Engineer wherein my job was to design, implement, provide technical support and do both pre and post sales work. currently i have a CCNP(Cisco Certified Network Professional) in routing and switching and CMNA(Certified Meraki Network Associate).

I have a bit of a problem, im am currently planning to process Skilled Independent visa (subclass 189) and looked at the Skilled Occupation List this is where my dilemma starts. On the list i have a number of occupations that fit my job namely the following:

Electronics Engineer 233411 Engineers Australia​
Computer Network and Systems Engineer 263111 ACS
Telecommunications Engineer 263311 Engineers Australia​
Telecommunications Network Engineer 263312 Engineers Australia​

My current position really fits well with the Computer Network and Systems Engineer this is because my CCNP Certification is accepted by the ACS as comparable to graduate outcomes of an ICT major at the AQF Diploma level but the problem is i have only 2 years of experience in my current position although i have projects before that is related to my current position the visa subclass i am processing i need at least five but less than eight years to get the 10 points which is critical in order for me to reach 60 points.

I really need advice on this specially from fellow ECEs and engineers. your comments and suggestions are greatly appreciated.

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  • Teng10Teng10 Brisbane eh!
    Posts: 181Member
    Joined: Sep 21, 2016
    @Ric_Suizo , im an ece too, worked in electronics manufacturing for around 16yrs as new prod dev engr. I got assessed by EA. I saw your line of work fits well with network engineering so its a simpler choice with ACS...but what is your prospected job in Au? And is that job still have available slot in SOL? You may want to check it for your points needed and what evidences you could provide to the assessors...cheers!

    (233411 - Electronics Engineer)

    29-Apr -2015 - Responded to Migration Agent on my Linkedin
    **after more than a year of waiting for "the" early retirement plan of my company :-(
    09-Jul -2016 - Finally decided The Project Down Under
    11-Jul -2016 - Signed contract with MA
    04-Aug-2016 - Took IELTS (L:7.5 R:6.5: W:6.0 S:6.5)
    20-Sep -2016 - Lodged EA Requirements
    21-Sep -2016 - EA Fast Track Requested
    30-Sep -2016 - Enrolled for PTE Review
    14-Oct -2016 - EA Positive
    26-Oct -2016 - PTE Positive (L:82 R:79: W:83 S:90)
    28-Oct-2016 - Submitted EOI (189/75)
    22-Nov-2016 - ITA Recieved
    08-Dec-2016 - Visa Lodged (Medical at St. Lukes BGC)
    05-Jan-2017 - CO Contact (Additional Proof of Employment)
    08-Feb-2017 - Visa Granted (Salamat po Ama!)
    BM Prep naman...

  • Ric_SuizoRic_Suizo Davao City
    Posts: 11Member
    Joined: Jan 06, 2016
    @Teng10 , network engineer po prospected job ko sa AU. is it possible po na pde siya ma sakay sa electronics engineer para po 5 years total yung experience ko para umabot sa 60 points.
  • Xiaomau82Xiaomau82 Singapore
    Posts: 1,877Member
    Joined: Mar 08, 2014
    Ric_Suizo said:

    Hi guys,

    I am an Electronics and Communications Engineer and currently working with a system integrator for 4 years plus. For the first 3 years of my employment i held the position of Auxiliary Technical Engineer wherein my job was to implement and provide technical support for auxiliary systems like Door Access, Elevator Access, Public Address, CCTV(both analog and IP) after the 3 years i was transferred to a different department and promoted to Systems Engineer wherein my job was to design, implement, provide technical support and do both pre and post sales work. currently i have a CCNP(Cisco Certified Network Professional) in routing and switching and CMNA(Certified Meraki Network Associate).

    I have a bit of a problem, im am currently planning to process Skilled Independent visa (subclass 189) and looked at the Skilled Occupation List this is where my dilemma starts. On the list i have a number of occupations that fit my job namely the following:

    Electronics Engineer 233411 Engineers Australia​
    Computer Network and Systems Engineer 263111 ACS
    Telecommunications Engineer 263311 Engineers Australia​
    Telecommunications Network Engineer 263312 Engineers Australia​

    My current position really fits well with the Computer Network and Systems Engineer this is because my CCNP Certification is accepted by the ACS as comparable to graduate outcomes of an ICT major at the AQF Diploma level but the problem is i have only 2 years of experience in my current position although i have projects before that is related to my current position the visa subclass i am processing i need at least five but less than eight years to get the 10 points which is critical in order for me to reach 60 points.

    I really need advice on this specially from fellow ECEs and engineers. your comments and suggestions are greatly appreciated.

    My suggestion is to apply for the occupation where u have the edge of being granted the faster. once granted visa, you can work in any field in Australia. ECE is deemed to be an ICT major/minor depende sa course subjects. For your previous employment, hindi ba kaya maadjust ung job description to fit that of the IT professional occupation? Kasi u need more work experience because of the ACS requirement, they deduct certain number of years, depende kung ICT major or minor maconisder ung course mo.
  • rvrecabarrvrecabar Philippines
    Posts: 309Member
    Joined: May 29, 2017
    @Ric_Suizo I suggest go with ACS. Palabasin mo ung work mo dun sa Auxilary Technical engineer na may "systems server" ka na minamanage. Then all CCTV IP and Door Access' are interconnected via "network" which you also manage. Palabasin mo na ganun ang ginagawa mo. Which I think is ganun din naman. Just my 2 cents.
  • rvrecabarrvrecabar Philippines
    Posts: 309Member
    Joined: May 29, 2017
    Yung sa systems server na ibig ko sabihin kasi AFAIK may mga servers yung mga CCTV and door access kung san nagsstore ng data. Mostly mga yan Windows server. Kaya part pa rin naman yun nung 263111 na ANSCO code.
  • guenbguenb Mandaluyong
    Posts: 470Member
    Joined: Jun 17, 2015
    @Ric_Suizo i suggest go with EA, ACS may require you with more than 2 years of related IT work.

    261111 - ICT Business Analyst
    26|05|15 - Visited Oz
    01|08|15 - IDP PH IELTS
    14|08|15 - (L:8.5 R:8.0 W:6.5 S:8.0 OBS:8.0) Sawi!
    07|09|15 - Remarking, unchanged.
    21|03|16 - Submitted to ACS
    30|03|16 - Assessment result, unsuitable, <4years
    27|09|16 - PTE Academic (L76/R55/S31/W88) Sawi!
    08|10|16 - IDP PH IELTS
    12|10|16 - Re-assessment ACS
    21|10|16 - (L:8.5 R:8.0 W:7.0 S:7.5 OBS:8.0) Better!
    28|10|16 - Assessment result, suitable!
    28|10|16 - Lodged EOI for 190/489 (60/65)
    Preparing for PTE Academic...
    Philippians 4:13 "I can do all this through him who gives me strength."

  • amojamoj Taguig
    Posts: 157Member
    Joined: Apr 24, 2017
    Hi Guys! Ask ko lang if may alam when was the last time nag-invite ng 65 points and below sa 263311/12?

    Thanks!

    263311 Telecommunications Engineer

    Points Total: 75 Points
    Age: 32 - 30 points
    English: Superior - 20 points
    Employment Experience: 5-7 Years - 10 points
    Education: BS Degree: 15 points

    Timeline:
    03/05/2017 - IELTS General Exam (L7.5/R9/W7/S6.5) - 10 Points
    04/11/2017 - Submitted EA Assessment (Fast track)
    05/11/2017 - EA Contact Requesting Change of CDRs
    05/18/2017 - Sent New CDRs
    05/29/2017 - EA Positive Outcome Granted
    05/29/2017 - Submitted EOI (Visa 189) w/ 65 Points
    08/14/2017 - PTE Academic Exam (L82/R90/W90/S90) - increased to 20 Points
    08/16/2017 - Resubmitted EOI (Visa 189) w/ 75 Points
    08/23/2017 - ITA Received!!!
    09/16/2017 - Medicals taken at Nationwide Makati
    09/20/2017 - Visa 189 Lodged
    10/31/2017 - CO Contact requesting for additional supporting documents for de facto partner
    11/03/2017 - Provided needed documents
    03/06/2018 - Grant Received!!!
    04/12/2018 - Big Move to Sydney

  • archbunkiarchbunki singapore
    Posts: 271Member
    Joined: Jan 19, 2015
    @amoj /sir nakita ko Big move is today. Dec 4. Welcome to Au.
    Question po as Teleco engineer ECE ka po ba? My brother is ECE and have 13 years experience in his field. Na line up sya sa Electronics part sa mga semicon, worked in hp and medical production machines. He supervises production in the fab. Now my question po sa lahat ng pede sumagot. Do you need to be license? Hindi kasi sya nag take na ng exam. OFW din sya so he did not see the use. San po ba sya aapply as Engineers Australia or as Electronics Trades Worker?

    Nominated Skill: 312111
    Nov 2019 - Lodge 887

  • archbunkiarchbunki singapore
    Posts: 271Member
    Joined: Jan 19, 2015
    @Teng10 sir question po. Do you need to licensed ece to apply as eletronics engineer? my bro is 13 years experience. nalinya sya sa mga semicon, production supervisor sa hp and medical machines pero since ofw work di sya nag take ng license sa Pinas. Ano po maganda application nya? Eletronics engineer 233411 or as Electronics trades worker 342313 ?

    Nominated Skill: 312111
    Nov 2019 - Lodge 887

  • gibo43gibo43 Morphett Vale, SA
    Posts: 318Member
    Joined: Oct 19, 2016
    @archbunki ECE din ako and nagwowork sa semicon. Nagpaassess ako sa EA as Production/Plant Engineer (233513). May PRC certificate ako na pinass, di ko lang sure kung required kasi di naman ginagamit sa profession yun.

    ANZSCO 233513 | Production or Plant Engineer | Age :25, Education: 15, Employment: 15, PTE: 20| Total points = 75

    10.01.2016 | Interest in OZ migration ignited!
    03.03.2018 | Started PTE review through CEVAS (10 sessions).
    05.15.2018 | PTE A Test : LRSW|79/86/83/86
    06.06.2018 | Lodged EA Assessment.
    08.28.2018 | Received positive results from EA (wew)! All experiences credited.
    08.28.2018 | Lodged EOI for visa 189.
    09.10.2018 | Invitation to Apply (ITA) received.
    09.27.2018 | Lodged visa.
    10.08.2018 | Medical for dependents (no action required).
    10.22.2018 | Medical for main applicant (no action required).
    12.17.2018 | IMMI Assessment Commence Letter Received.
    12.19.2018 | Grant finally! ^_^

  • MLBSMLBS Manila
    Posts: 946Member
    Joined: Sep 11, 2016
    @archbunki pwede ka mag pa assess pag di ka licensed, though hindi assured na professional engineer ang outcome kung hindi galing sa section 1 school. I'm speaking from experience btw.

    233411 Electronics Engineer (Age-30, Educ-15,English proficiency-20, NAATI - 5, Single, - 10 Relative sponsorship - 15)
    95 pts total
    2017*****
    June 3, 2017 = Graduated from College
    July 8, 2017 = Took IELTS GT
    July 21, 2017 = received IELTS results (LRWS = 8/9/7.5/7)
    August 11, 2017 = Lodged EA assessment (Fast track)
    September 6, 2017 = Received positive EA assessment, lodged EOI (489 Family sponsored - 60 pts)
    September 21, 2017 = Took PTE exam
    September 22, 2017 = Received PTE results (LRSW- 90/90/90/90), lodged 189 EOI (60 pts), updated 489 FS EOI (70 pts)
    September 26, 2017 = Lodged 190 EOI (NSW) 65 pts
    2018*****
    1 year wait... still no EOI invite. Decided to pursue student visa instead

    Course: Cert IV and Diploma - Work Health and Safety (DNA Kingston)

    October 15, 2018 = offer letter from school
    November 8, 2018 = Medical exam (St. Lukes)
    November 20, 2018 = Paid for tuition
    Novemeber 28, 2018 = Received COE
    December 2, 2018 = Lodged visa, after 1 min, granted!
    2019*****
    Feb 4 2019 = arrived to Perth
    2020*****
    Jan 2020 = Age increased to 30 pts
    Jan 20 2020 = Took NAATI
    Jan 26 2020 = Results for NAATI (passed) +5 pts
    Jan 27 2020 = lodged EOI 491 Family
    Feb 10 2020 = invited finally!
    Oct 8 2020 = 491 granted
    Oct 8 2023 = 191 Lodged
    Oct 30 2023 = 191 granted

  • archbunkiarchbunki singapore
    Posts: 271Member
    Joined: Jan 19, 2015
    @gibo43 salamat po! inassess din kasi if mag agency pa ba sya. kasi nga medyu mahal and family.
    mag baabsa basa ulit kami salamat

    Nominated Skill: 312111
    Nov 2019 - Lodge 887

  • archbunkiarchbunki singapore
    Posts: 271Member
    Joined: Jan 19, 2015
    @MLBS ah okey. yup ang fear lang is baka hanapan ng prc license although experience wise akma naman talga sa profession as ece and electronics side.

    Nominated Skill: 312111
    Nov 2019 - Lodge 887

  • Teng10Teng10 Brisbane eh!
    Posts: 181Member
    Joined: Sep 21, 2016
    > @archbunki said:
    > @Teng10 sir question po. Do you need to licensed ece to apply as eletronics engineer? my bro is 13 years experience. nalinya sya sa mga semicon, production supervisor sa hp and medical machines pero since ofw work di sya nag take ng license sa Pinas. Ano po maganda application nya? Eletronics engineer 233411 or as Electronics trades worker 342313 ?

    Sir pasensya na, almost 1 year ako di nakapag login dito sa pinoyau. I think sa Engineers Australia siya dapat, for Electronics Engineer accreditation

    (233411 - Electronics Engineer)

    29-Apr -2015 - Responded to Migration Agent on my Linkedin
    **after more than a year of waiting for "the" early retirement plan of my company :-(
    09-Jul -2016 - Finally decided The Project Down Under
    11-Jul -2016 - Signed contract with MA
    04-Aug-2016 - Took IELTS (L:7.5 R:6.5: W:6.0 S:6.5)
    20-Sep -2016 - Lodged EA Requirements
    21-Sep -2016 - EA Fast Track Requested
    30-Sep -2016 - Enrolled for PTE Review
    14-Oct -2016 - EA Positive
    26-Oct -2016 - PTE Positive (L:82 R:79: W:83 S:90)
    28-Oct-2016 - Submitted EOI (189/75)
    22-Nov-2016 - ITA Recieved
    08-Dec-2016 - Visa Lodged (Medical at St. Lukes BGC)
    05-Jan-2017 - CO Contact (Additional Proof of Employment)
    08-Feb-2017 - Visa Granted (Salamat po Ama!)
    BM Prep naman...

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