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Au_VicAu_Vic Melbourne, VictoriaTotal Reaction Points: 79Member
hi to all,

Just want to share my observations and what I have read on various discussions here about visa 489 state sponsorship.

I do understand that 189 or 190 are much better coz those visas are permanent but I don't understand why some people on this forum, the way they comment about 489 sounds like its the worst visa option.

There are so many people who wants to migrate to Australia but their skills are not in the list so they take all possible ways like student visa which is ridiculously expensive, with limited working hours w/o any assurance of permanent residency after.

So for those who are lucky to have their skills in the list even for 489, be thankful that you have that option. Be contented and be happy with the opportunity!

DIBP makes it harder and harder to migrate to Australia as time goes by so its up to you all if you want to let go of the chance. I will not be surprised if in the coming years applying 489 will be tough as well.

cheers :-)



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  • lccnsrsnnlccnsrsnn PhilippinesTotal Reaction Points: 25Member
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    @Au_Vic Really may ganyang ganap pala? I got a 489 invite. May pending application ako sa VIC for 190 ICT occupation. My husband and I decided to go for 489 na lang now that we have an invite rather than wait for 190 that MIGHT not come. Napansin ko na immigration policies change a lot. Baka kakahintay ko sa 190 abutan ako ng changes at di na makarating.
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  • Hunter_08Hunter_08 SingaporeTotal Reaction Points: 210Member
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    Tama si @AU_applicant. at pareho tayo @lccnsrsnn need to grab the opportunity hanggat meron pa.
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  • Au_VicAu_Vic Melbourne, VictoriaTotal Reaction Points: 79Member
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    lccnsrsnn said:

    @Au_Vic Really may ganyang ganap pala? I got a 489 invite. May pending application ako sa VIC for 190 ICT occupation. My husband and I decided to go for 489 na lang now that we have an invite rather than wait for 190 that MIGHT not come. Napansin ko na immigration policies change a lot. Baka kakahintay ko sa 190 abutan ako ng changes at di na makarating.

    yep, may few posts or comments dito sa forum about 489. cguro mejo undecided pa ung mga yun or bka tingin nila makakababa ng pagkatao nila kpg nka 489 visa sila...hehe...

    good decision na itake mo na ung 489 path at least invited ka na and eventually makamove ka na dito then settle in and after 2 yrs apply ka na ng PR kesa mag-antay ka ng 190 na walang assurance kung kelan ka maiinvite or kung maiinvite ka.

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  • Au_VicAu_Vic Melbourne, VictoriaTotal Reaction Points: 79Member
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    Hunter_08 said:

    Tama si @AU_applicant. at pareho tayo @lccnsrsnn need to grab the opportunity hanggat meron pa.

    oo, grab nyo na opportunity na meron kayo now kasi we don't know kung anung changes ang pwede mangyari. kaya paulit-ulit kong sinsabi sa forum na eto na di natin control ang isip at decision ng immigration kung kelan at kung anu ang gusto nila baguhin pwede.


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  • rdr8rdr8 MelbourneTotal Reaction Points: 4Member
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    I have 489 visa, relative sponsored. For me walang masama sa 489 kung gusto mo talaga maka migrate. I applied for this visa kasi gusto ko magmigrate abroad kasi walang opportunity masyado ang mga nurses sa atin. Kulang ako ng points para sa 189/190 kasi limited ang work experience ko. Eto ako ngayon, 2 years working at naka apply na ng 887 visa, still waiting for approval.

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  • Au_VicAu_Vic Melbourne, VictoriaTotal Reaction Points: 79Member
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    rdr8 said:

    I have 489 visa, relative sponsored. For me walang masama sa 489 kung gusto mo talaga maka migrate. I applied for this visa kasi gusto ko magmigrate abroad kasi walang opportunity masyado ang mga nurses sa atin. Kulang ako ng points para sa 189/190 kasi limited ang work experience ko. Eto ako ngayon, 2 years working at naka apply na ng 887 visa, still waiting for approval.

    I totally agree with you @rdr8 . if gusto maraming paraan kpag ayaw marami dahilan. may mga comments kasi dito sa forum na parang big deal sa kanila kung nka 489 as if people at coles or woolies will ask them what's their visa type..lol...

    oh well, its their choice anyway! best of luck with your PR application, saglit na lang makukuha mo din yan.

    Cheers from Melbourne!

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  • rdr8rdr8 MelbourneTotal Reaction Points: 4Member
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    @Au_Vic thank you!

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  • rdr8rdr8 MelbourneTotal Reaction Points: 4Member
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    @Au_Vic yung brother ko rin 489 relative sponsored, nagwork siya sa SG before coming here. Same din, kulang siya sa points pero dahil sa IELTS naman pero gusto niya magmigrate sa Au so go siya sa 489. Ngayon PR na siya. Sayang nga inabutan siya nung change dun sa citizenship. Edi sana citizen na siya now hehe.

    Yung isa ko kakilala, sinuggest ko yung 489, as option pero ayaw, ayun. Nagapply ng 189, nareject kasi nagclaim ng points na di naman dapat iclaim. Ngayon kinoconsider na niya yung 489 relative sponsored. Sayang yung oras niya at pera niya.

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  • Hunter_08Hunter_08 SingaporeTotal Reaction Points: 210Member
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    @Au_Vic at @rdr8 thanks sa mga positive words.. tama naman kayo pareho na walang masama sa 489 siguro yun iba kaya gusto ng 189/190 kasi pr agad sila at maski saan sila pwede mag work at tumira for 189 pero maski saan naman state yan basta masipag ka at willing to accept anything makakaya din naman at eventually magiging PR at citizen din.
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  • rdr8rdr8 MelbourneTotal Reaction Points: 4Member
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    @Hunter_08 hello! Kapag 489 relative sponsored allowed siya anywhere in Australia pero may ilang area na di pde sa NSW At QLD.

    Oo tama ka basta sipag at tiyaga kaya yan. At para sa future at ikakaganda ng life. Good luck sa application mo.

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  • Au_VicAu_Vic Melbourne, VictoriaTotal Reaction Points: 79Member
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    rdr8 said:

    @Au_Vic yung brother ko rin 489 relative sponsored, nagwork siya sa SG before coming here. Same din, kulang siya sa points pero dahil sa IELTS naman pero gusto niya magmigrate sa Au so go siya sa 489. Ngayon PR na siya. Sayang nga inabutan siya nung change dun sa citizenship. Edi sana citizen na siya now hehe.

    Yung isa ko kakilala, sinuggest ko yung 489, as option pero ayaw, ayun. Nagapply ng 189, nareject kasi nagclaim ng points na di naman dapat iclaim. Ngayon kinoconsider na niya yung 489 relative sponsored. Sayang yung oras niya at pera niya.

    kya nga ung mga iba dito sa forum na kulang sa points nagsuggest ako na kung may option ang 489 go for it kc they would not know kung kelan babaguhin ang immigration rules but there are people who still want to stick it out with 189 or 190 kht na 1 yr na sila nagaantay to get invited. sayang ung time kc.

    Are you in Melb as well?
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  • Au_VicAu_Vic Melbourne, VictoriaTotal Reaction Points: 79Member
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    Hunter_08 said:

    @Au_Vic at @rdr8 thanks sa mga positive words.. tama naman kayo pareho na walang masama sa 489 siguro yun iba kaya gusto ng 189/190 kasi pr agad sila at maski saan sila pwede mag work at tumira for 189 pero maski saan naman state yan basta masipag ka at willing to accept anything makakaya din naman at eventually magiging PR at citizen din.

    agree with you @Hunter_08 shempre lahat gusto yung PR agad para no restrictions but yung iba kc may option ng 489 kaso they opted not to kahit over 1 yr na nagaantay ng 189 or 190 invitation. Sayang yung time like 1 yr na pinagantay nila imagine kung naka 489 sila e di 1 yr na lang ung kulang then pwede na for PR.

    oh well, its their decision and their life anyway!
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  • spywarespyware SingaporeTotal Reaction Points: 7Member
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    Go for visa 489 narin kami sa tagal makakuha ng 190 SS ngayon.
    Big THANKS to you @Au_Vic for your guidance...
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  • lccnsrsnnlccnsrsnn PhilippinesTotal Reaction Points: 25Member
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    Mas gusto ko na maghintay na nandoon na ako kesa nandito sa Pinas. Umaandar ang oras, yung ihihintay ko dito sa Pinas eh di bawas na sa 2 years na requirement ng 489. Pano kung abutin ng 10 months paghihintay eh di konti na lang matatapos ko na yung two years. :D
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  • fgsfgs Cooper BasinTotal Reaction Points: 118Member
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    There is an ongoing Policy Consultation Paper on Visa simplification that will reduce the current 99 visas into 10. One recommendation is to require all migrants to be on 2 years provisional visa before a PR visa is granted. If that happens, para na rin lahat on the current 489 visa.
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  • jaceejoefjaceejoef MandaluyongTotal Reaction Points: 18Member
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    mas gusto ko nasa Oz na ko bahala na temporary visa like 489. at least pag nag apply ako ng 887 mga nasa Oz lang ang karibal ko unlike 189 or 190 na buong mundo. hahaha
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  • jaceejoefjaceejoef MandaluyongTotal Reaction Points: 18Member
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    may rumors pa naman na dapat temporary visa muna ang path ng immigrants before permanent.
    Software Engineer (261313) | Age = 30 | Education = 15 | Experience = 5 | English = 10

    28.10.2016 PTE-A Exam
    02.11.2016 PTE-A Results (L69 R66 S48 W77) - saklap!
    19.11.2016 PTE-A Mock Exam A (L72 R56 S62 W69)
    26.11.2016 PTE-A Mock Exam B (L69 R61 S56 W69)
    28.11.2016 PTE-A Exam
    28.11.2016 PTE-A Results (L64 R73 S64 W68)
    10.02.2017 ACS Skill Assessment - Stage 1 - submit documents
    13.02.2017 ACS Skill Assessment - Stage 2
    14.02.2017 ACS Skill Assessment - Stage 3
    22.02.2017 ACS Skill Assessment - Submit updated document
    22.02.2017 ACS Skill Assessment - Stage 4
    03.03.2017 ACS Skill Assessment - Stage 5 - positive result!
    29.05.2017 PTE-A Exam
    29.05.2017 PTE-A Results (L78 R76 S66 W78)
    01.06.2017 Lodge EOI - Visa 189 (60 points)
    01.06.2017 Lodge EOI - Visa 190 (65 points) - NSW
    28.06.2017 Lodge EOI - Visa 190 (65 points) - Victoria
    19.07.2017 Lodge EOI - Visa 489 (70 points) - SA - on hold. high points required
    27.07.2017 Lodge EOI - Visa 489 (70 points) - Tasmania
    30.08.2017 Lodge Tasmania Application
    12.10.2017 Tasmania Application - CO assigned
    17.10.2017 Tasmania Application - denied :(

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    Web Developer (261212) | Age = 30 | Education = 15 | Experience = 10 | English = 10 | State = 10

    20.02.2018 ACS Skill Assessment Submit
    12.04.2018 ACS Skill Assessment Result - positive!
    01.08.2018 additional 5 points for experience
    15.08.2018 Lodge EOI - Visa 489 (75 points)
    16.08.2018 Lodge SA Application
    31.10.2018 ITA received for SA visa 489
    27.11.2018 Medical Exam at St. Luke's BGC
    29.11.2018 Medical Clearance Provided - no action required
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  • dutchmilkdutchmilk South AustraliaTotal Reaction Points: 15Member
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    Korek kayong lahat. Sabi nga nila opportunity knocks only once so grab na natin ang 489. :)
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  • LittleFingerLittleFinger Manila, PhilippinesTotal Reaction Points: 6Member
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    tama grab nyo na yan, kahit ako kung yan lang ang only way then I would have taken the same route...

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  • iamveeiamvee SGTotal Reaction Points: 11Member
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    Totally agree with all your points @Au_Vic!
    No reason to be picky with migration pathway instead, be grateful for the opportunity.
    Kudos to us all 489 applicants! :)
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