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  • kh@L3Lkh@L3L Adelaide
    Posts: 125Member
    Joined: Jun 06, 2017
    @Hunter_08 roger that boss...maraming salamat sa sagot :)

    261314 (Software Tester)
    June 2017 ------Doc Collection
    July-1-2017 ----ACS Assessment
    Sept-11-2017 --Skill Assessed suitable
    Sept-28-2017 --PTE 1 L77-R79-S59-W77
    Oct-10-2017 ---PTE 2 L66-R66-S49-W73
    Nov-6-2017 ----PTE 3 Exam
    Nov-15-2017 ---PTE 3 Result L82-R84-S90-W80
    Nov-16-2017 ---Visa 190 EOI Submitted (VIC)
    Nov-17-2017 ---State Invitation To Apply (VIC)
    Nov-19-2017 ---State Application Submitted (VIC)
    Jan-10-2018 ---Visa 190 State Application Denied (VIC)
    Jan-11-2018 --- Visa 489 State Application Submitted (SA)
    Feb-5-2018 --- State Invitation Approved (SA)
    Feb-23-2018 ---Visa 489 Lodged (SA)
    Jun-5-2018 ---- Direct Grant...TYVM GOD!!!!
    July-21-2018 -- Big Move (May God Bless and Guide Us)

  • maltmalt Mandaluyong
    Posts: 140Member
    Joined: Jun 15, 2012
    @Hunter_08
    Sir, ilang days po bago mareceive ang hap id after ma isubmit ang health declaration?

    Main Applicant - Husband

    4/14/2014 - Vetassess "Positive"
    312111 Architectural Draftsperson

    6/25/2016 - IELTS L6.5 R7 W7 S7 (aiming for straight 7 retake ulit - sablay sa Listening)

    7/30/2016 - IELTS L7.5 R7 W7 S7 Thank You Lord


    9/21/16 - lodged Vetassess application "Change of Occupation"
    312112 - Building Associate
    1/23/17 - Vetassess "POSITIVE" 312112 Building Associate
    1/25/17 - Lodge EOI
    1/25/17 - Lodge VIC SS

    "Ask the Lord, to bless your plans, and you will be successful in carrying them out." Proverbs 16:3

  • Hunter_08Hunter_08 Adelaide
    Posts: 2,125Member
    Joined: Mar 01, 2011
    @malt makukuha mo agad yun..

    Apr 26, 2013 ACS Result- Suitable
    Feb 21,2013 Submitted ACS online assessment - Software Tester


    May 9, 2016 PTE Exam Result L/R/S/W- 71/69/83/72 Passed Thank you Papa Jesus
    Aug 18,2016 ACS Result- Suitable -Software Engineer
    Aug 19, 2016 Lodged EOI for subclass 190
    July 13, 2017 Lodged EOI and Submitted Application for subclass 489
    Aug 12, 2017 ITA Received
    Aug 25,2017 Scheduled Medical Test
    Aug 28, 2017 Medical Cleared(No Action Required)
    Aug 30, 2017 NBI Clearance PH
    Sept 15, 2017 SG COC Fingerprint and Collection
    Sept 20, 2017 Visa Lodge
    Nov 1, 2017 CO Contact (Requesting to Send PTE Score Report to DIBP which I already did before)

    Mar 6, 2018 Visa Grant


    Visa 887 Timeline

    July 25, 2020 Visa Lodge
    Oct 12, 2020 Visa Grant


    Citizenship Timeline
    July 4, 2022 Submitted Citizenship Application
    Dec 21, 2022 Invitation for Exam(Need to reschedule the exam)
    Feb 21, 2023 Citizenship Exam
    April 3, 2023 Received Approval Letter
    June 22, 2023 Citizenship Ceremony


    *****Dream big, think positive and Pray to God*****

  • kh@L3Lkh@L3L Adelaide
    Posts: 125Member
    Joined: Jun 06, 2017
    mga boss, tanong lng po about sg coc....nasa appeal plea section na ako, pero hindi ko alam para sa.an to? :) ano po ba ilagay dito? :) TIA

    261314 (Software Tester)
    June 2017 ------Doc Collection
    July-1-2017 ----ACS Assessment
    Sept-11-2017 --Skill Assessed suitable
    Sept-28-2017 --PTE 1 L77-R79-S59-W77
    Oct-10-2017 ---PTE 2 L66-R66-S49-W73
    Nov-6-2017 ----PTE 3 Exam
    Nov-15-2017 ---PTE 3 Result L82-R84-S90-W80
    Nov-16-2017 ---Visa 190 EOI Submitted (VIC)
    Nov-17-2017 ---State Invitation To Apply (VIC)
    Nov-19-2017 ---State Application Submitted (VIC)
    Jan-10-2018 ---Visa 190 State Application Denied (VIC)
    Jan-11-2018 --- Visa 489 State Application Submitted (SA)
    Feb-5-2018 --- State Invitation Approved (SA)
    Feb-23-2018 ---Visa 489 Lodged (SA)
    Jun-5-2018 ---- Direct Grant...TYVM GOD!!!!
    July-21-2018 -- Big Move (May God Bless and Guide Us)

  • Hunter_08Hunter_08 Adelaide
    Posts: 2,125Member
    Joined: Mar 01, 2011
    @kh@L3L ilagay mo lang na kailangan mo ng COC for migration purposes. parang request letter lang why you need ng COC.

    Apr 26, 2013 ACS Result- Suitable
    Feb 21,2013 Submitted ACS online assessment - Software Tester


    May 9, 2016 PTE Exam Result L/R/S/W- 71/69/83/72 Passed Thank you Papa Jesus
    Aug 18,2016 ACS Result- Suitable -Software Engineer
    Aug 19, 2016 Lodged EOI for subclass 190
    July 13, 2017 Lodged EOI and Submitted Application for subclass 489
    Aug 12, 2017 ITA Received
    Aug 25,2017 Scheduled Medical Test
    Aug 28, 2017 Medical Cleared(No Action Required)
    Aug 30, 2017 NBI Clearance PH
    Sept 15, 2017 SG COC Fingerprint and Collection
    Sept 20, 2017 Visa Lodge
    Nov 1, 2017 CO Contact (Requesting to Send PTE Score Report to DIBP which I already did before)

    Mar 6, 2018 Visa Grant


    Visa 887 Timeline

    July 25, 2020 Visa Lodge
    Oct 12, 2020 Visa Grant


    Citizenship Timeline
    July 4, 2022 Submitted Citizenship Application
    Dec 21, 2022 Invitation for Exam(Need to reschedule the exam)
    Feb 21, 2023 Citizenship Exam
    April 3, 2023 Received Approval Letter
    June 22, 2023 Citizenship Ceremony


    *****Dream big, think positive and Pray to God*****

  • kh@L3Lkh@L3L Adelaide
    Posts: 125Member
    Joined: Jun 06, 2017
    @Hunter_08 many thanks ulit boss :)

    261314 (Software Tester)
    June 2017 ------Doc Collection
    July-1-2017 ----ACS Assessment
    Sept-11-2017 --Skill Assessed suitable
    Sept-28-2017 --PTE 1 L77-R79-S59-W77
    Oct-10-2017 ---PTE 2 L66-R66-S49-W73
    Nov-6-2017 ----PTE 3 Exam
    Nov-15-2017 ---PTE 3 Result L82-R84-S90-W80
    Nov-16-2017 ---Visa 190 EOI Submitted (VIC)
    Nov-17-2017 ---State Invitation To Apply (VIC)
    Nov-19-2017 ---State Application Submitted (VIC)
    Jan-10-2018 ---Visa 190 State Application Denied (VIC)
    Jan-11-2018 --- Visa 489 State Application Submitted (SA)
    Feb-5-2018 --- State Invitation Approved (SA)
    Feb-23-2018 ---Visa 489 Lodged (SA)
    Jun-5-2018 ---- Direct Grant...TYVM GOD!!!!
    July-21-2018 -- Big Move (May God Bless and Guide Us)

  • kh@L3Lkh@L3L Adelaide
    Posts: 125Member
    Joined: Jun 06, 2017
    edited February 2018
    mga boss nka submit na ako ng health declaration....ask lng kung saan dito ang hap ID?
    eto ba yung My Health Declarations Reference Number? TIA

    261314 (Software Tester)
    June 2017 ------Doc Collection
    July-1-2017 ----ACS Assessment
    Sept-11-2017 --Skill Assessed suitable
    Sept-28-2017 --PTE 1 L77-R79-S59-W77
    Oct-10-2017 ---PTE 2 L66-R66-S49-W73
    Nov-6-2017 ----PTE 3 Exam
    Nov-15-2017 ---PTE 3 Result L82-R84-S90-W80
    Nov-16-2017 ---Visa 190 EOI Submitted (VIC)
    Nov-17-2017 ---State Invitation To Apply (VIC)
    Nov-19-2017 ---State Application Submitted (VIC)
    Jan-10-2018 ---Visa 190 State Application Denied (VIC)
    Jan-11-2018 --- Visa 489 State Application Submitted (SA)
    Feb-5-2018 --- State Invitation Approved (SA)
    Feb-23-2018 ---Visa 489 Lodged (SA)
    Jun-5-2018 ---- Direct Grant...TYVM GOD!!!!
    July-21-2018 -- Big Move (May God Bless and Guide Us)

  • kh@L3Lkh@L3L Adelaide
    Posts: 125Member
    Joined: Jun 06, 2017
    Ok na hap ID ko boss, sa eMedical lng pala pag ka tapos ma submit ang eMedical :)

    261314 (Software Tester)
    June 2017 ------Doc Collection
    July-1-2017 ----ACS Assessment
    Sept-11-2017 --Skill Assessed suitable
    Sept-28-2017 --PTE 1 L77-R79-S59-W77
    Oct-10-2017 ---PTE 2 L66-R66-S49-W73
    Nov-6-2017 ----PTE 3 Exam
    Nov-15-2017 ---PTE 3 Result L82-R84-S90-W80
    Nov-16-2017 ---Visa 190 EOI Submitted (VIC)
    Nov-17-2017 ---State Invitation To Apply (VIC)
    Nov-19-2017 ---State Application Submitted (VIC)
    Jan-10-2018 ---Visa 190 State Application Denied (VIC)
    Jan-11-2018 --- Visa 489 State Application Submitted (SA)
    Feb-5-2018 --- State Invitation Approved (SA)
    Feb-23-2018 ---Visa 489 Lodged (SA)
    Jun-5-2018 ---- Direct Grant...TYVM GOD!!!!
    July-21-2018 -- Big Move (May God Bless and Guide Us)

  • beetle00beetle00 Posts: 101Member
    Joined: Jan 08, 2018
    Hello guys, tanong lang po kung saan po ang mga open na state for civil engineer 55 pts or production engineer 65 pts? Thanks in advance!
  • cutsiechick21cutsiechick21 Adelaide
    Posts: 142Member
    Joined: Nov 09, 2016
    edited February 2018
    @beetle00 hello https://www.anzscosearch.com/search/ pde niong check dian kung anung open n states sa inio :)

    511112 Program or Project Administrator

    02/08/2017 - IELTS Exam: L 8.5/R8/S7/W6.5
    09/08/2017 - Submitted docs to Vetassess
    10/19/2017 - Positive assessment (4 yrs) - 5pts
    10/23/2017 - PTE Exam
    10/23/2017 - Received PTE Result: L78/R90/S86/W86
    10/27/2017 - SS EOI / SA application submitted
    11/08/2017 - SS SA ITA received
    11/28/2017 - Police COC collection
    12/09/2017 - Visa lodged
    12/23/2017 - Medical @ Point Medical SG
    12/28/2017 - Repeat urine test due to high sugar
    02/20/2018 - Immi Assessment Commence Email
    03/27/2018 - CO asked for letter of consent for employment verification
    05/23/2018 - VISA GRANT
    07/2018 - Big Move

  • Au_VicAu_Vic Melbourne, Victoria
    Posts: 385Member
    Joined: Jun 11, 2017
    @beetle00 hi, you need to have 60points at least so maybe civil engineer is not an option for you.

    production engineer - NSW (state sponsorship)

    I'm Australian in paper but pinoy in form....Living in the most liveable city in the world...Melbourne! Oi, oi, oi!!!

  • laurenceoliveralbalaurenceoliveralba Singapore
    Posts: 11Member
    Joined: Oct 17, 2016
    Hi All. Quick question just to make sure. Mukhang natatagalan ung 189 and 190 for Business Analyst. I am open to submit 489 but when I checked Victoria website, there is a requirement that you must have 5 yrs of experience. Technically I have close to 7 years exp but because I am not a graduate of an ICT course I got "0" for skills assessment from ACS. Note that I understand it needs 6 years exp and RPL to pass for ACS skills assessment which I did.

    Question: Can I claim that I have an experience of more than 5 years or should I still follow the ACS assessment which is still "0" for me.

    Kudos sa mga makakasagot!
  • RheaMARN1171933RheaMARN1171933 Posts: 2,689Member, Administrator, Moderator
    Joined: Mar 10, 2016
    @laurenceoliveralba the details on the assessment outcome is the information immigration will consider.
  • orchydorchyd Mernda VIC Australia
    Posts: 21Member
    Joined: Jan 07, 2018
    Happy sunday po sa lahat, ask ko lang po how long bago magbigay ng invite yung regional visa specifically visa 489 generally, i applied for EOI last feb22, 55+10@65points anzcode 254415 Reg Nurse ICU. Also sent EOi for southern Inland on same day. Sabi po sa email 6weeks, at this time of the year 6weeks ba talaga hihintayin or more pa, my student visa ends this july na and i wanna stay onshore thru this visa.TIA
  • MrAdoboMrAdobo Posts: 182Member
    Joined: Sep 28, 2016
    meron npo bang nainvite na 233513 dito?
  • Au_VicAu_Vic Melbourne, Victoria
    Posts: 385Member
    Joined: Jun 11, 2017
    @orchyd hi, it depends.sang state ka nagpasa ng 489 state sponsorship? meron sa victoria state sponsorship na thread dito, same situation as you. they emailed ung state migration office telling them na pa-expire na ung student visa nila and i believe some of them got invited. give it a try but no guarantees.

    I'm Australian in paper but pinoy in form....Living in the most liveable city in the world...Melbourne! Oi, oi, oi!!!

  • orchydorchyd Mernda VIC Australia
    Posts: 21Member
    Joined: Jan 07, 2018
    @Au_Vic thanks sa southern inland kasi ako sa nsw nag apply... really may agent ba sila o wala.ask ko ling din sana if may work na sila doon kasi I heard pag may job offer pwede daw ma expedite ang procedure pag patapos na ang visa... thanks so much for the info.
  • spywarespyware Singapore
    Posts: 184Member
    Joined: Oct 15, 2014
    hi @Au_Vic!

    Victoria requires a job offer for you to apply for visa 489, right?
    Thanks!
  • Au_VicAu_Vic Melbourne, Victoria
    Posts: 385Member
    Joined: Jun 11, 2017
    @orchyd not sure if may work na sila, ung isang nsa forum meron ata xang work kya na-expedite pero yung iba wala ata. Is there a specific reason why you need 489 and why NSW? Kc if you can get 190 might as well go for it. you have 55+ 5pts (190) = 60 points unless state has a specific requirement for minimum points. In NSW they probably rank EOIs by points and highest will get invited first. Please note in VIC, for international students, nsa list nila ang nurse for SS and dont see any specific points needed so I assume you need 60 points at least including SS to be eligible.

    I'm Australian in paper but pinoy in form....Living in the most liveable city in the world...Melbourne! Oi, oi, oi!!!

  • Au_VicAu_Vic Melbourne, Victoria
    Posts: 385Member
    Joined: Jun 11, 2017
    @spyware yes, for 489 SS in Vic, job offer is necessary

    I'm Australian in paper but pinoy in form....Living in the most liveable city in the world...Melbourne! Oi, oi, oi!!!

  • spywarespyware Singapore
    Posts: 184Member
    Joined: Oct 15, 2014
  • orchydorchyd Mernda VIC Australia
    Posts: 21Member
    Joined: Jan 07, 2018
    Hi question lang po for southern inland, ask ko lang if yung employment reference with duty statement, kailangan ba recent? Also po is there a format for it?, pwede pakiexplain kung ano dapat body ng letter, thanks sa makakasagot. @Au_Vic thanks sa sagot mo, kaso late ko na alam na derecho lng pala liveinvictoria yung applicatn for state nom before skillselect, skillselect lang ako nag apply, today lang din ako nag apply sa liveinvictoria... so crossing fingers they will expedite the process... thanks☺️ Preparing also for southern inland as contingency if hindi aabot sa july as per my student visa expires...
  • Au_VicAu_Vic Melbourne, Victoria
    Posts: 385Member
    Joined: Jun 11, 2017
    @orchyd no worries. in which state are you studying? If you are studying in Victoria they may consider your situation and expedite your application since you are in the state already.

    Send livinvictoria an email and ask for timeframes, maybe tell them your situation and say something like you want to live and stay in Vic. No guarantees but who knows.

    I'm Australian in paper but pinoy in form....Living in the most liveable city in the world...Melbourne! Oi, oi, oi!!!

  • Au_VicAu_Vic Melbourne, Victoria
    Posts: 385Member
    Joined: Jun 11, 2017
    @orchyd you can also check Tasmania. Nsa list nila for 489 yung occupation mo. Not sure though how quick they process State sponsorship.

    https://www.migration.tas.gov.au/skilled_migrants/skilled_regional

    I'm Australian in paper but pinoy in form....Living in the most liveable city in the world...Melbourne! Oi, oi, oi!!!

  • orchydorchyd Mernda VIC Australia
    Posts: 21Member
    Joined: Jan 07, 2018
    Thanks @Au_Vic will do...☺️
  • kh@L3Lkh@L3L Adelaide
    Posts: 125Member
    Joined: Jun 06, 2017
    Kumusta na mga ma'am/sir?
    May na grant naba sa 489 ngaun?
    Mukhang naka limutan na cguro nila ang 489 kc hanggan ngaun walang balita...

    261314 (Software Tester)
    June 2017 ------Doc Collection
    July-1-2017 ----ACS Assessment
    Sept-11-2017 --Skill Assessed suitable
    Sept-28-2017 --PTE 1 L77-R79-S59-W77
    Oct-10-2017 ---PTE 2 L66-R66-S49-W73
    Nov-6-2017 ----PTE 3 Exam
    Nov-15-2017 ---PTE 3 Result L82-R84-S90-W80
    Nov-16-2017 ---Visa 190 EOI Submitted (VIC)
    Nov-17-2017 ---State Invitation To Apply (VIC)
    Nov-19-2017 ---State Application Submitted (VIC)
    Jan-10-2018 ---Visa 190 State Application Denied (VIC)
    Jan-11-2018 --- Visa 489 State Application Submitted (SA)
    Feb-5-2018 --- State Invitation Approved (SA)
    Feb-23-2018 ---Visa 489 Lodged (SA)
    Jun-5-2018 ---- Direct Grant...TYVM GOD!!!!
    July-21-2018 -- Big Move (May God Bless and Guide Us)

  • Hunter_08Hunter_08 Adelaide
    Posts: 2,125Member
    Joined: Mar 01, 2011
    @kh@L3L kailan ka nag submit ng visa mo?

    Apr 26, 2013 ACS Result- Suitable
    Feb 21,2013 Submitted ACS online assessment - Software Tester


    May 9, 2016 PTE Exam Result L/R/S/W- 71/69/83/72 Passed Thank you Papa Jesus
    Aug 18,2016 ACS Result- Suitable -Software Engineer
    Aug 19, 2016 Lodged EOI for subclass 190
    July 13, 2017 Lodged EOI and Submitted Application for subclass 489
    Aug 12, 2017 ITA Received
    Aug 25,2017 Scheduled Medical Test
    Aug 28, 2017 Medical Cleared(No Action Required)
    Aug 30, 2017 NBI Clearance PH
    Sept 15, 2017 SG COC Fingerprint and Collection
    Sept 20, 2017 Visa Lodge
    Nov 1, 2017 CO Contact (Requesting to Send PTE Score Report to DIBP which I already did before)

    Mar 6, 2018 Visa Grant


    Visa 887 Timeline

    July 25, 2020 Visa Lodge
    Oct 12, 2020 Visa Grant


    Citizenship Timeline
    July 4, 2022 Submitted Citizenship Application
    Dec 21, 2022 Invitation for Exam(Need to reschedule the exam)
    Feb 21, 2023 Citizenship Exam
    April 3, 2023 Received Approval Letter
    June 22, 2023 Citizenship Ceremony


    *****Dream big, think positive and Pray to God*****

  • kh@L3Lkh@L3L Adelaide
    Posts: 125Member
    Joined: Jun 06, 2017
    Hunter_08 said:

    @kh@L3L kailan ka nag submit ng visa mo?

    Lodge date ko is feb 23-2018, until now walang CO contact.
    Na lodge kona lahat docs ko, wala na ako ma isip pang ibang docs i submit :)

    261314 (Software Tester)
    June 2017 ------Doc Collection
    July-1-2017 ----ACS Assessment
    Sept-11-2017 --Skill Assessed suitable
    Sept-28-2017 --PTE 1 L77-R79-S59-W77
    Oct-10-2017 ---PTE 2 L66-R66-S49-W73
    Nov-6-2017 ----PTE 3 Exam
    Nov-15-2017 ---PTE 3 Result L82-R84-S90-W80
    Nov-16-2017 ---Visa 190 EOI Submitted (VIC)
    Nov-17-2017 ---State Invitation To Apply (VIC)
    Nov-19-2017 ---State Application Submitted (VIC)
    Jan-10-2018 ---Visa 190 State Application Denied (VIC)
    Jan-11-2018 --- Visa 489 State Application Submitted (SA)
    Feb-5-2018 --- State Invitation Approved (SA)
    Feb-23-2018 ---Visa 489 Lodged (SA)
    Jun-5-2018 ---- Direct Grant...TYVM GOD!!!!
    July-21-2018 -- Big Move (May God Bless and Guide Us)

  • Hunter_08Hunter_08 Adelaide
    Posts: 2,125Member
    Joined: Mar 01, 2011
    @kh@L3L lapit na yan...

    Apr 26, 2013 ACS Result- Suitable
    Feb 21,2013 Submitted ACS online assessment - Software Tester


    May 9, 2016 PTE Exam Result L/R/S/W- 71/69/83/72 Passed Thank you Papa Jesus
    Aug 18,2016 ACS Result- Suitable -Software Engineer
    Aug 19, 2016 Lodged EOI for subclass 190
    July 13, 2017 Lodged EOI and Submitted Application for subclass 489
    Aug 12, 2017 ITA Received
    Aug 25,2017 Scheduled Medical Test
    Aug 28, 2017 Medical Cleared(No Action Required)
    Aug 30, 2017 NBI Clearance PH
    Sept 15, 2017 SG COC Fingerprint and Collection
    Sept 20, 2017 Visa Lodge
    Nov 1, 2017 CO Contact (Requesting to Send PTE Score Report to DIBP which I already did before)

    Mar 6, 2018 Visa Grant


    Visa 887 Timeline

    July 25, 2020 Visa Lodge
    Oct 12, 2020 Visa Grant


    Citizenship Timeline
    July 4, 2022 Submitted Citizenship Application
    Dec 21, 2022 Invitation for Exam(Need to reschedule the exam)
    Feb 21, 2023 Citizenship Exam
    April 3, 2023 Received Approval Letter
    June 22, 2023 Citizenship Ceremony


    *****Dream big, think positive and Pray to God*****

  • kh@L3Lkh@L3L Adelaide
    Posts: 125Member
    Joined: Jun 06, 2017
    @Hunter_08 sana nga, pero mukhang matagal masyado ang 489 pero cge lng antay lng ako at dasal din :)

    Ok cguro if mag feedback ako by 2nd week of June??

    TY sa encouragement :)

    261314 (Software Tester)
    June 2017 ------Doc Collection
    July-1-2017 ----ACS Assessment
    Sept-11-2017 --Skill Assessed suitable
    Sept-28-2017 --PTE 1 L77-R79-S59-W77
    Oct-10-2017 ---PTE 2 L66-R66-S49-W73
    Nov-6-2017 ----PTE 3 Exam
    Nov-15-2017 ---PTE 3 Result L82-R84-S90-W80
    Nov-16-2017 ---Visa 190 EOI Submitted (VIC)
    Nov-17-2017 ---State Invitation To Apply (VIC)
    Nov-19-2017 ---State Application Submitted (VIC)
    Jan-10-2018 ---Visa 190 State Application Denied (VIC)
    Jan-11-2018 --- Visa 489 State Application Submitted (SA)
    Feb-5-2018 --- State Invitation Approved (SA)
    Feb-23-2018 ---Visa 489 Lodged (SA)
    Jun-5-2018 ---- Direct Grant...TYVM GOD!!!!
    July-21-2018 -- Big Move (May God Bless and Guide Us)

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