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Can MBA/international business can lead to PR?

fasttimesfasttimes QueenslandPosts: 10Member
Hello, I'm currently taking a post qualifying path for a sem before I can proceed to my approved program which is MBA/MIB and I was wondering if it can lead to PR by following the point system or if not, what could be the best step to do? thank you.

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  • batmanbatman Darwin Australia
    Posts: 3,520Member, Moderator
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    @fasttimes if you have enough points why not.

    221213 External Auditor|489 - 70pts - SS NT
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    20|09|17 - EOI 190 - NT (delayed due to show money req.)
    - collating requirements for NT SS application
    18|10|17 - Submitted NT SS application (praying for + result)
    24|04|18 - 190 not successful,
    - was offered 489 instead and accepted the offer
    - engaged with visa consort agency for visa application submission.
    26|04|18 - Invited to apply for SS visa 489 - Northern Territory
    02|05|18 - PCC processing
    20|05|18 - Medical
    06|06|18 - Visa payment
    15|09|18 - happy na birthday pa, visa grant pa.. TYL
    09|02|19 - Big move
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    12|02|19 - Received a job offer
    13|02|19 - Accepted job offer
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    01|01|21 - Started CPA Australia qualification
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    June 2021 - First CPA subject passed
    Nov 2021 - 2nd CPA Subject passed
    June 2022 - 3rd and 4th CPA subject passed
    Nov 2022 - 5th subject passed (failed the other one)
    Feb 2023 - PR visa granted
    June 2023 - Officially a CPA Australia member.
    July 2023 - Purchased a land where to build our home

  • fgsfgs Cooper Basin
    Posts: 1,161Member
    Joined: Nov 12, 2013
    fasttimes said:

    Hello, I'm currently taking a post qualifying path for a sem before I can proceed to my approved program which is MBA/MIB and I was wondering if it can lead to PR by following the point system or if not, what could be the best step to do? thank you.

    There's no difference in points you can claim on qualifications.( Bachelor's Degree/Master degree is equivalent to 15 points). Skilled migration is a points based system, currently at minimum of 65 points (age, qualification, work experience, english ability, etc.)
  • magueromaguero Adelaide
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    Joined: Oct 24, 2016
    @fasttimes You have to nominate an occupation in the MLTSSL or STSOL list in order to submit an EOI. If you take that course what occupation will be you be able to apply under?
  • agentKamsagentKams Toowoomba
    Posts: 861Member
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    @fasttimes how long is your program? what is your nominated occupation?
    if it is under two years and not related to your nominated occupation, it won't help in increasing your points for skilled visa application.

    Timeline: Student Visa Subclass 573 (Masters)
    06 July 2015: Visa Grant
    April 2018: Uni Graduation

    Timeline: Permanent Visa (189) Accountant 221111
    18 April 2018: ITA received - Visa 189
    04 May 2018 : Lodged Visa Application - Visa 189
    29 Aug 2018 - First CO Contact - PCC Qatar (partner)
    9 Jan 2019 - 2nd CO Contact - penal waiver
    18 Jan 2019 - Updated immiaccount with penal waiver
    29 Jan 2019 - Forwarded PCC to gsm.allocated email
    8 Feb 2019 - Visa Grant - Finally!!

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  • agentKamsagentKams Toowoomba
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    @fgs baka po sa australian study requirement which is two years, may +5 points po iyon under the points-based system.

    Timeline: Student Visa Subclass 573 (Masters)
    06 July 2015: Visa Grant
    April 2018: Uni Graduation

    Timeline: Permanent Visa (189) Accountant 221111
    18 April 2018: ITA received - Visa 189
    04 May 2018 : Lodged Visa Application - Visa 189
    29 Aug 2018 - First CO Contact - PCC Qatar (partner)
    9 Jan 2019 - 2nd CO Contact - penal waiver
    18 Jan 2019 - Updated immiaccount with penal waiver
    29 Jan 2019 - Forwarded PCC to gsm.allocated email
    8 Feb 2019 - Visa Grant - Finally!!

    Timeline: Citizenship
    July 2020: Application lodgment
    May 2021: Citizenship Exam
    Feb 2022: Oi! Oi! Oi! Aussie na din sa wakas!

  • fasttimesfasttimes Queensland
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    @agentKams it is 2 yrs and another 2 years for graduate visa. i do not have any idea yet what's a nominated occupation and how to do that. it is still my first sem and many said it is not qualified for PR.
  • fasttimesfasttimes Queensland
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    Joined: Sep 10, 2018
    @batman i see, i really thought it is not possible. thank you
  • agentKamsagentKams Toowoomba
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    @fasttimes nominated occupation, kung anong skill ang meron ka na pathway for PR. have you had a thought your purpose why you did student pathway first? kasi ako for additional points why I did this route.

    Timeline: Student Visa Subclass 573 (Masters)
    06 July 2015: Visa Grant
    April 2018: Uni Graduation

    Timeline: Permanent Visa (189) Accountant 221111
    18 April 2018: ITA received - Visa 189
    04 May 2018 : Lodged Visa Application - Visa 189
    29 Aug 2018 - First CO Contact - PCC Qatar (partner)
    9 Jan 2019 - 2nd CO Contact - penal waiver
    18 Jan 2019 - Updated immiaccount with penal waiver
    29 Jan 2019 - Forwarded PCC to gsm.allocated email
    8 Feb 2019 - Visa Grant - Finally!!

    Timeline: Citizenship
    July 2020: Application lodgment
    May 2021: Citizenship Exam
    Feb 2022: Oi! Oi! Oi! Aussie na din sa wakas!

  • fasttimesfasttimes Queensland
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    Joined: Sep 10, 2018
    @agentKams are you also taking MBA? I got confused because there are others who I asked who are already here taking the program said that it is not valid for a PR. I guess, it's still a matter on what nominated occupation I will be applying or dapat bang yung current work mo nominated skill na before applying for PR? thanks
  • agentKamsagentKams Toowoomba
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    @fasttimes hi, i took MBAD at first but shifted to a dual program. combined MBAD and MPAC, because my nominated occupation is Accountant. if you are going to use the MBA degree to claim for points then yes it would really matter kung anong nominated skill mo. if you nominated an IT occupation and MBA kinuha mo, you might not be able to claim points for work experience gained after graduation on that qualification since magkaiba ang field na iyan.

    most taking the MBA program is for upskilling lang tlga. did you have an agent who suggested your course pathway? or wala ka naman tlga balak magPR pa when you applied for the student visa?

    Timeline: Student Visa Subclass 573 (Masters)
    06 July 2015: Visa Grant
    April 2018: Uni Graduation

    Timeline: Permanent Visa (189) Accountant 221111
    18 April 2018: ITA received - Visa 189
    04 May 2018 : Lodged Visa Application - Visa 189
    29 Aug 2018 - First CO Contact - PCC Qatar (partner)
    9 Jan 2019 - 2nd CO Contact - penal waiver
    18 Jan 2019 - Updated immiaccount with penal waiver
    29 Jan 2019 - Forwarded PCC to gsm.allocated email
    8 Feb 2019 - Visa Grant - Finally!!

    Timeline: Citizenship
    July 2020: Application lodgment
    May 2021: Citizenship Exam
    Feb 2022: Oi! Oi! Oi! Aussie na din sa wakas!

  • fasttimesfasttimes Queensland
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    Joined: Sep 10, 2018
    @agentKams i do have a plan but i'm not sure if im taking the right path. it was the agent who adviced me to proceed to mba since im a business ad graduate but she did not really talk much about getting a PR. others adviced to shift to MPA but if Im not sure yet as for the moment.
  • batmanbatman Darwin Australia
    Posts: 3,520Member, Moderator
    Joined: Oct 04, 2011
    @fasttimes i'm wondering what's is the goal of your agent in suggesting to proceed for MBA. Kasi mahal sya at mahaba time to complete. Ano points mo na ba now as per your agent assessment?

    221213 External Auditor|489 - 70pts - SS NT
    21|07|16 - Applied CPAA membership assessment
    31|07|16 - PTE-A L|S|W|R (73|79|78|77)
    01|08|16 - Submitted CPAA migration assessment
    20|09|17 - EOI 190 - NT (delayed due to show money req.)
    - collating requirements for NT SS application
    18|10|17 - Submitted NT SS application (praying for + result)
    24|04|18 - 190 not successful,
    - was offered 489 instead and accepted the offer
    - engaged with visa consort agency for visa application submission.
    26|04|18 - Invited to apply for SS visa 489 - Northern Territory
    02|05|18 - PCC processing
    20|05|18 - Medical
    06|06|18 - Visa payment
    15|09|18 - happy na birthday pa, visa grant pa.. TYL
    09|02|19 - Big move
    11|02|19 - First job interview
    12|02|19 - Received a job offer
    13|02|19 - Accepted job offer
    13|08|19 - Accepted a new job offer - new employer
    16|10|20 - Started new job - a better opportunity
    01|01|21 - Started CPA Australia qualification
    10|02|21 - Lodged 887 visa application
    June 2021 - First CPA subject passed
    Nov 2021 - 2nd CPA Subject passed
    June 2022 - 3rd and 4th CPA subject passed
    Nov 2022 - 5th subject passed (failed the other one)
    Feb 2023 - PR visa granted
    June 2023 - Officially a CPA Australia member.
    July 2023 - Purchased a land where to build our home

  • agentKamsagentKams Toowoomba
    Posts: 861Member
    Joined: Apr 25, 2014
    @fasttimes TBH, you obviously don't know what your end game is. check what occupation you are going to nominate first then calculate your points ASAP para makadecide ka what to do on your program.

    Timeline: Student Visa Subclass 573 (Masters)
    06 July 2015: Visa Grant
    April 2018: Uni Graduation

    Timeline: Permanent Visa (189) Accountant 221111
    18 April 2018: ITA received - Visa 189
    04 May 2018 : Lodged Visa Application - Visa 189
    29 Aug 2018 - First CO Contact - PCC Qatar (partner)
    9 Jan 2019 - 2nd CO Contact - penal waiver
    18 Jan 2019 - Updated immiaccount with penal waiver
    29 Jan 2019 - Forwarded PCC to gsm.allocated email
    8 Feb 2019 - Visa Grant - Finally!!

    Timeline: Citizenship
    July 2020: Application lodgment
    May 2021: Citizenship Exam
    Feb 2022: Oi! Oi! Oi! Aussie na din sa wakas!

  • magueromaguero Adelaide
    Posts: 820Member
    Joined: Oct 24, 2016
    @fasttimes Do you have work experience after college? If yes, check if your work experience is aligned with one of the occupations in this list. That can be your nominated occupation https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/trav/work/work/skills-assessment-and-assessing-authorities/skilled-occupations-lists/combined-stsol-mltssl

    As what @agentKams mentioned, if you want to claim points for your MBA it should be related to your nominated occupation.

    You can compute for your estimated EOI points for PR here
    https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/supporting/Pages/skilled/The-points-table.aspx
  • kymmekymme Western Australia
    Posts: 1,284Member
    Joined: Apr 10, 2015
    @fasttimes just be careful kasi some migration agents (not all) are just after na mapalioad yung clients nila. hanapan k ng easy way ora mka migrate. but in the long run, ikw ang mghahanap ng pathway mo for PR. some agents get commision for enrolling overseas students to the school n partner nila kaya di cla masyado ngbibigay ng options. research lng on what skill ang appropriate sa educ and work exp mo. also bear in mind yung points for PR. at least target 70 especially if yung skill mo nsa 189 lng and not 190.

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  • fasttimesfasttimes Queensland
    Posts: 10Member
    Joined: Sep 10, 2018
    @maguero salamat sa reply. i worked as a call center agent for couple of years before studying here and I checked on the link and the closest i skill i can connect is with the technical sales rep subclass 190, does that mean im not capable of applying for subclass 189? and if i will be nominating a skill for EOI or for PR dapat ba my job here in australia is already inclined with my nominated skill?

    @agentKams mahal talaga mba, but i think its also the only way for my partner to work fulltime or more in a way nakakatulong din in our situation. in my assessment, i can have 65 points already after graduating and can increase if i can get superior ielts exam hopefully.

    thank you for your inputs guys! :)
  • fasttimesfasttimes Queensland
    Posts: 10Member
    Joined: Sep 10, 2018
    @kymme i think that is my situation, they only cared i can get here to study cos the agency can get 10% per 2 sems as a comission. that's why i really dont have any idea about the PR process. good thing i found this forum.
  • yennerz13yennerz13 Sydney
    Posts: 35Member
    Joined: Aug 13, 2018
    hi im planning to took up mba din for pr pathway. and this january intake sana.

    i know costly pero i'll take risks nalang din kasi yun daw yung best way talaga.
  • batmanbatman Darwin Australia
    Posts: 3,520Member, Moderator
    Joined: Oct 04, 2011
    @yennerz13 i don't think it's the best way.

    221213 External Auditor|489 - 70pts - SS NT
    21|07|16 - Applied CPAA membership assessment
    31|07|16 - PTE-A L|S|W|R (73|79|78|77)
    01|08|16 - Submitted CPAA migration assessment
    20|09|17 - EOI 190 - NT (delayed due to show money req.)
    - collating requirements for NT SS application
    18|10|17 - Submitted NT SS application (praying for + result)
    24|04|18 - 190 not successful,
    - was offered 489 instead and accepted the offer
    - engaged with visa consort agency for visa application submission.
    26|04|18 - Invited to apply for SS visa 489 - Northern Territory
    02|05|18 - PCC processing
    20|05|18 - Medical
    06|06|18 - Visa payment
    15|09|18 - happy na birthday pa, visa grant pa.. TYL
    09|02|19 - Big move
    11|02|19 - First job interview
    12|02|19 - Received a job offer
    13|02|19 - Accepted job offer
    13|08|19 - Accepted a new job offer - new employer
    16|10|20 - Started new job - a better opportunity
    01|01|21 - Started CPA Australia qualification
    10|02|21 - Lodged 887 visa application
    June 2021 - First CPA subject passed
    Nov 2021 - 2nd CPA Subject passed
    June 2022 - 3rd and 4th CPA subject passed
    Nov 2022 - 5th subject passed (failed the other one)
    Feb 2023 - PR visa granted
    June 2023 - Officially a CPA Australia member.
    July 2023 - Purchased a land where to build our home

  • yennerz13yennerz13 Sydney
    Posts: 35Member
    Joined: Aug 13, 2018
    hi sir @batman salamat po sa reply. ano pa po kaya ang ibang pathway for PR? ayun po kasi ang advice ng agent sa akin :)
  • batmanbatman Darwin Australia
    Posts: 3,520Member, Moderator
    Joined: Oct 04, 2011
    @yennerz13 directly apply for PR visa. what is your background?

    221213 External Auditor|489 - 70pts - SS NT
    21|07|16 - Applied CPAA membership assessment
    31|07|16 - PTE-A L|S|W|R (73|79|78|77)
    01|08|16 - Submitted CPAA migration assessment
    20|09|17 - EOI 190 - NT (delayed due to show money req.)
    - collating requirements for NT SS application
    18|10|17 - Submitted NT SS application (praying for + result)
    24|04|18 - 190 not successful,
    - was offered 489 instead and accepted the offer
    - engaged with visa consort agency for visa application submission.
    26|04|18 - Invited to apply for SS visa 489 - Northern Territory
    02|05|18 - PCC processing
    20|05|18 - Medical
    06|06|18 - Visa payment
    15|09|18 - happy na birthday pa, visa grant pa.. TYL
    09|02|19 - Big move
    11|02|19 - First job interview
    12|02|19 - Received a job offer
    13|02|19 - Accepted job offer
    13|08|19 - Accepted a new job offer - new employer
    16|10|20 - Started new job - a better opportunity
    01|01|21 - Started CPA Australia qualification
    10|02|21 - Lodged 887 visa application
    June 2021 - First CPA subject passed
    Nov 2021 - 2nd CPA Subject passed
    June 2022 - 3rd and 4th CPA subject passed
    Nov 2022 - 5th subject passed (failed the other one)
    Feb 2023 - PR visa granted
    June 2023 - Officially a CPA Australia member.
    July 2023 - Purchased a land where to build our home

  • magueromaguero Adelaide
    Posts: 820Member
    Joined: Oct 24, 2016
    @fasttimes You can check these links to gauge if mataas chances mo of getting a positive assessment for Technical Sales Rep. Ito yung requirements ni Vetassess for a positive assessment. Input mo lang 225499 sa Find An Occupation box https://www.vetassess.com.au/skills-assessment-for-migration/general-occupations/nominate-an-occupation

    And dito mo naman makikita yung tasks na required para masabing fit ka sa occupation na yan http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]/0/226028E1988667A9CA2575DF002DA5D7?opendocument

    As far as I know meron 3 kinds of General Skilled Migration visas - 189, 190 and 489.

    Yung 189 is PR pero kailangan nasa MLTSSL yung occupation mo.

    Yung 190 is also PR pero state nominated. This means that aside from submitting an EOI in Skillselect you also have to check which states are sponsoring your occupation and you have to submit a nomination application with the state.

    Yung 489 is a state nominated provisional visa. Like 190 you also have to apply for state nomination and you have to live in the sponsoring state for 2 years and work in that state for 1 year before you can convert your visa to a PR visa.

    Meron na akong state nomination for a 489 visa, hindi pa lang ako nakakapaglodge. Syempre mas maganda sana ang PR visa agad. Kaso like you, nasa STSOL lang yung occupation ko and dadalawa lang ang states na nagssponsor nito and pareho sila na 489 lang ang inooffer. So kahit kailangan ko magcomply sa 2 years residency and 1 year work requirement bago maging PR e kukunin ko na ito kasi at least sigurado na ang path to a PR visa.

    You just have to assess kung ano ang best way para maging PR ka based on your nominated occupation. Sa tingin ko ang importante sa ngayon ay madetermine mo kung ano ang nominated occupation mo para makastrategize ka na kung paano ka magiging PR.
  • yennerz13yennerz13 Sydney
    Posts: 35Member
    Joined: Aug 13, 2018
    @batman human resource po hehe pero i just graduated this year hehe
  • magueromaguero Adelaide
    Posts: 820Member
    Joined: Oct 24, 2016
    @yennerz13 If you will nominate HR as your occupation for PR you can also check the link I shared above for Vetassess' requirements for a positive assessment. Note na ang Vetassess requires work experience after obtaining your degree to get a positive assessment. Kung iba naman ang balak mong nominated occupation I suggest check mo rin as early as now yung requirements ng assessing agency para masigurado mo na mamemeet mo yung requirements pag ready ka na magpa-assess. Good luck!
  • MLBSMLBS Manila
    Posts: 946Member
    Joined: Sep 11, 2016
    Just wanna share some insights: you can claim points for au study, pero if you are not able to nominate an occupation in mltssl or stsol, then baka sayang lang ang oras at panahon. Make sure na you have a plan after ng studies since agencies usually offer pathways on study but not on PR.

    233411 Electronics Engineer (Age-30, Educ-15,English proficiency-20, NAATI - 5, Single, - 10 Relative sponsorship - 15)
    95 pts total
    2017*****
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    July 21, 2017 = received IELTS results (LRWS = 8/9/7.5/7)
    August 11, 2017 = Lodged EA assessment (Fast track)
    September 6, 2017 = Received positive EA assessment, lodged EOI (489 Family sponsored - 60 pts)
    September 21, 2017 = Took PTE exam
    September 22, 2017 = Received PTE results (LRSW- 90/90/90/90), lodged 189 EOI (60 pts), updated 489 FS EOI (70 pts)
    September 26, 2017 = Lodged 190 EOI (NSW) 65 pts
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    1 year wait... still no EOI invite. Decided to pursue student visa instead

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  • yennerz13yennerz13 Sydney
    Posts: 35Member
    Joined: Aug 13, 2018
    thank you po sa advices @maguero and @MLBS :) mag-masters in management po ako bali ang inonominate ko po ay Management Consultant if ever
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