Singapore VS Australia VS Canada VS Pinas

beth_loggins

Hi po,

I am an IT Executive living here in Singapore for the past 20 odd years. I am currently in my late 20s, but due to the high cost of living sa Singapore, I am thinking of leaving this country.

Imagine nyo po, a simple flat/apartment rental can cost between 60,000 - 80,000 Pesos a month!!!

I am currently on the verge of filing my Australia EOI, ksi po I just need to take my EILTS. Tapos derecho na po.

Knowing the fact, I have about 10 odd years of CPF saving sa Singapore, I was wondering, will I be better off sa Australia or Pinas.

Salamat po in advance sa comments nyo.

vhoythoy

pinas its more fun =)

killerbee

@beth_loggins cguro po ang mas mabuting tanong diyan, what do you want to do in the long run and what situations you are in? may pamilya ka na po ba?

mas maganda siguro, gumawa ka ng listahan ng pros and cons ng parehas na bansa.

as for me, i've been here in SG for almost 6 yrs now and some of the reason you mentioned above also pushed me to pursue my OZ dream. bakit hindi pinas? Kasi kung uuwi ako sa pinas, mas mainam cguro na pumasok na ako sa business pero hindi pa ako handa sa pagbubusiness eh. tapos me and my wife wants an stress free environment as much as possible to raise a family that's why we choose Australia. I could go on and on but this are some of the reason why... so ask yourself na lng kung ano ang gusto mo.. 🙂

vhoythoy

bakit wala canada? sama mo para may idea din ako hahaha. Ako 4 years na din ako sa SIngapore, pero pinaka naasar ako is sobrang higpt nila sa PR at Citizenship ngaun. Other than that ok naman. So kung ayaw nila wag hehe

lock_code2004

just the thought that you are in this forum means something...

a) you have doubts to come back to philippines

b) you are forced to get out of singapore..

c) you are looking for something else..

read the thread: Bakit Australia? may mga sersyosong sagot.. may patawa lang..

may mainit at emosyonal na talakayan... halo halo na..

but you will get the essence of it..

http://www.pinoyau.info/discussion/70/bakit-australia/p1

goodluck!!

alexamae

Ako din, gustong gusto ko ng umalis dito sa Singapore.

Ang lifestyle na gusto ko d ko magawa dito at sa pinas kasi..

Sana ma approve na kami.

TasBurrfoot

Here is my take on the countries I have lived previously:

(1) Singapore - nothing permanent as we were just on employment pass; good salary sana and low tax however super mahal naman ang bahay and kotse. and definitely it can get boring after a while.

(2) Philippines - coming from Singapore, you cannot help but compare that stuffs (food, transpo system, groceries, etc) are below par as compared to Singapore. i don't feel safe here - case in point may NPA attack in Bukidnon yesterday, an hour away from my hometown. i cannot stand the mediocre attitude of our gov't here. hight tax BUT ninanakaw lang ng mga corrupt official.

Time will tell if Australia will really be the place that we can finally call home but from the looks of it now, it seems promising naman. At least ngayon, nakikita na namin ng wife ko na magkaroon ng kiddies in around 2 years.

LokiJr

Parang Samsung vs. Apple vs. Cherry Mobile naman to hehe

Sorry but you can't compare our country to those developed countries...malayo talaga hehe...the only thing we can be proud of the Philippines is our heritage, culture, GDP and optimism in life.

alexamae

Gusto ko ang Apple hahaha.

TasBurrfoot

<blockquote rel="LokiJr">Parang Samsung vs. Apple vs. Cherry Mobile naman to hehe

Sorry but you can't compare our country to those developed countries...malayo talaga hehe...the only thing we can be proud of the Philippines is our heritage, culture, GDP and optimism in life. </blockquote>

Funny thing is, I am never optimistic at all with the future of the Philippines... 🙂

Metaform

Any place where you need to struggle in order to stay or live is a no-no. Seeing the news about the Singaporeans uproar against the expats automatically takes The Little Red Dot off the list. Kung maayos naman ang buhay mo sa Pinas and hindi ka nakatira sa Manila (a.k.a. Hell on Earth), better stay with your family and friends. Kung sawa ka na sa traffic, corruption, and Love Radio, or kung ang family mo ay nandito na down under, then Oz is the place for you.

LokiJr

Hahaha...oo Love Radio....hahaha nakakarelate ako dito!!

There are some positive things in our country...it just so happens that everything terrible about the Philippines (traffic, pollution, crime, inefficiencies) is bunched up in Metro Manila.

My boss asked my opinion about this and I said to him, I would love to spend my 'strong' years in Australia and bask on my success in the Philippines when I am retired 🙂

yukie77

For some reason, same yung feeling ko sainyo dito sa SG, parang everything is temporary and walang assurance yung future. Yes we have jobs but you don't (or well I don't) see myself staying here nor raising a family here, considering baka ayaw na rin nila sakin eventually hehe.

Late 20+s young pa yun, ako rin pala late 20+s or mid late 20+s hehe, but the thing is if wala ka pa naman family you can do whatever you want, considering you have savings pwde ka start small biz sa Pinas, makatulong kapa sa mga walang jobs 🙂... but if adventure is what you're up for then baka ok na sa AU, then eventually pwde mo rin consider ibang countries, I once read something that says - "Only those who risk going too far can possibly find out how far they can go" 🙂

God bless sa plans mo!

Metaform

I don't mean to sound like a pessimistic crab, but the thing about The Philippines' economic growth is that, hindi ito nararamdaman ng mga Filipinos sa Pinas. Kadalasan ang proud lang sa pag-unlad ng Pinas ay mga Pinoys overseas kasi wala sila sa atin. A friend in Dubai keeps bragging about Noynoy's accomplishments, saying our government is now the one lending money to other countries. So? Sino ang nakikinabang? Na-alleviate ba ang buhay ng mga families natin doon?

Fine, it may take another 50 years or so for The Philippines to bounce back. I really really hope our country can at least be at par with its neighbouring ASEAN countries.

LokiJr

Without sounding too technical...we need good and consistent growth...Last year, nagrelease ang BSP tungkol sa issue na iyan. Para maramdaman ng lahat ng mamamayan ang kaunlaran sa bansa, kailangan natin magpost ng GDP growth rate na 6.5% tuloy tuloy sa 17 taon!

Malayo pa lalakarin natin, but it's a good start..kelangan lang tuloy tuloy.

You can't cure an "alcoholic" overnight...he needs to battle the addiction for years and years to be successful 🙂

TasBurrfoot

GDP growth of Pinas is impressive but if you look at it, super baba kasi ng base na pinanggaling nya... If there is a wave of growth sweeping around the world, for sure aangat ang mga numbers natin BIG time.

Question is, will we replicate this for the next 17yrs - year after year? Sorry but I am incline to say never.

Meanwhile, to those invested sa stocks market.

Enjoy the good run!! 🙂

beth_loggins

Hi guys, salamat pala sa mga post mo.

well, as mentioned, i was raised here in Singapore, came in the late 80s, my dad was an engineer, he recently retired and withdrew his CPF, nsa pinas na happy happy time.

Anyways, as for me, well I got an offered the apply for Singaporean citizenship, I have been a PR since 2005 (due to school scholarship fund, I just needed to serve 3 years bond sa SG, no NS ), but the weird thing is that when I applied, they rejected it about 3 months!... so I told myself, maybe Singapore isn't for me anymore.

Kaya ganon.. I was recently in Pinas, I would love to work in our country pero, it will be hard to live on its minimal salary.. hinde nman sa high maintanance ako, pero mahirap lang talaga ang bansa natin when you're working locally as a regular employee.

As for Singapore, yes its tightening its rules and regulations in accepting and taking in more foreigners, pero the bad thing is the locals don't make babies.. kaya ganon. nag kagulo gulo ang bansa na toh.

madami rin ako mga friends na EP/SPASSES who's got their passes rejected when renewed, as well as PR renewal, rejected din.

Personally for me, I think we've already experienced the PRIME of Singapore, I don't think it will further improved itself.. straight line nlang sha sa graph. I think it'll be worse for us pinoys and foreingers in the long run....

So I am looking forward in living sa down-under..

But is it easy to look for a job there?

I have a local NTU University degree in IT infrastructure and Security and have a distance learning Masters in Business IT from RMIT (galing sa SIM dito sa Singapore). Pero I have been reading alot of forums na its hard to get jobs in Aussie without local experience 🙁

Sorry po, super confuse lang po ako talaga... but I believe being 29, I am at the age where I am at a crossroad in which I need to stay or go elsewhere...

By the way, as you know, in Singapore, you can withdraw your CPF money once you've let go of your PR status, pero as for Aussie, can you withdraw the Super if you let go the PR po?

Sorry po for so many questions, but I know I am at the right place to ask for advise.. salamat po sa lahat!

P/S ok po sana CANADA pero masyadong malayo at wlang budget airlines hehehe... masayadong malayo sa Malate, Timog and Makati AVE..

Ingat po lahat and have a great Thursday

beth_loggins

Ok po sana sa Singapore if we're earning at least S$10,000 here.. pero mahirap na po dito. grabe bahay super mahal.. tapos education for the kids they're killing our pockets...

TasBurrfoot

<blockquote rel="beth_loggins">As for Singapore, yes its tightening its rules and regulations in accepting and taking in more foreigners, pero the bad thing is the locals don't make babies.. kaya ganon. nag kagulo gulo ang bansa na toh.

madami rin ako mga friends na EP/SPASSES who's got their passes rejected when renewed, as well as PR renewal, rejected din.</blockquote>

Eto na naman ako ilalabas ko "bitterness" ahaahaha!! 🙂 Singapore rejected me and my wife twice when we applied for PR before... Guess we just applied too late lang though coz previously andami na grant!

Ngayon kahit kaibigan ko na Global Brand Manager of an FMCG firm, rejected yung PR Application niya... Ang binibigyan lang ata ng PR ay yung mga China people eh... lolz!

TasBurrfoot

<blockquote rel="beth_loggins">Ok po sana sa Singapore if we're earning at least S$10,000 here.. pero mahirap na po dito. grabe bahay super mahal.. tapos education for the kids they're killing our pockets...</blockquote>

@beth_loggins - to be honest we were able to get by with our salary sa Singapore, nakapag-save, travel and restaurant every weekend. But the thing is, yung nga it will come to a point wherein anong gagawin mo ba talaga?!

For us kasi parang hindi naman pwede na ipon lang ng ipon, travel lang ng travel... So hopefully, tama itong Australia na decision namin.