Engineers Australia Skills Assessment

japjap1001

Hi, Good Day! ECE graduate po ako and may MBA degree din ako din sa pinas. medyo related din ang experience ko as an ECE at medyo naapply din yung masters degree ko sa current work.

is it advisable po na iinclude ko yung masters degree sa application knowing na unrelated ito sa bachelors degree ko? gusto ko kasi sana isama dahil wala sa recognized school yung BS degree ko and yung sa masters ko ay included sa recognized school?

in addition, malaking factor din po ba ang pagkakaroon ng PRC License? may nabasa kasi ako na thread dito regarding sa PRC license na ginagawa siyang supporting documents?

any advise po? Salamat po ng marami!

MejoMayabang

@nashmacoy101

Thanks.

To All,

Any more suggestions? How about items 1, 3, 5 and 6 sa first message ko? Do u mind sharing your experience? I'm ok if your not comfortable mag reply in public, u can private message me.

Lalo tuloy ako na-momotivate kapag my nagrereply. Magbaback read ako to study and check the previous post at para makilala ko din ung mga tao nagrereply sa akin.

Anyone tried New Zealand? any suggestions?

nashmacoy101

@MejoMayabang said:
@nashmacoy101

Thanks.
To All,
Any more suggestions? How about items 1, 3, 5 and 6 sa first message ko? Do u mind sharing your experience? I'm ok if your not comfortable mag reply in public, u can private message me.
Lalo tuloy ako na-momotivate kapag my nagrereply. Magbaback read ako to study and check the previous post at para makilala ko din ung mga tao nagrereply sa akin.
Anyone tried New Zealand? any suggestions?

actually, plan din namin NZ nung nagbakasyon kami sa Auckland last November nagustuhan ko din kaso sa Skilled Migration nila Job offer letter is 50pts (need a minimum 160pts para mainvite), which is ang hirap kapag overseas mag apply. currently we are at 145 pts excluding job offer letter.

MejoMayabang

@nashmacoy101 said:

@MejoMayabang said:
@nashmacoy101

Thanks.

To All,

Any more suggestions? How about items 1, 3, 5 and 6 sa first message ko? Do u mind sharing your experience? I'm ok if your not comfortable mag reply in public, u can private message me.

Lalo tuloy ako na-momotivate kapag my nagrereply. Magbaback read ako to study and check the previous post at para makilala ko din ung mga tao nagrereply sa akin.

Anyone tried New Zealand? any suggestions?
actually, plan din namin NZ nung nagbakasyon kami sa Auckland last November nagustuhan ko din kaso sa Skilled Migration nila Job offer letter is 50pts (need a minimum 160pts para mainvite), which is ang hirap kapag overseas mag apply. currently we are at 145 pts excluding job offer letter.

ok can u send me the link ng skilled migration nila? salamat what i learned from you is visa 189 and 195 including MSA Booklet. Nagccheck ako sa Linkedin my mga Filipino Engineers at Architects na nandun, meron pa nga sila Facebook group.

Anyways how about shortcut? Meaning ung didiskarte ka since nanjan ang ung 2 kapatid ko. Sila na magaapply para sayo? Good response @nashmacoy101

Anymore Engineers aldy in AUS? Mas ok sa akin ung mag kkwento ng "OK nandito na kami sa AUS pero hindi ko pala ini-expect ng ganito" ung mga stories na "what people didn't know about moving in Australia?" Kasi ok ung life ko (financially and healthy pero emotionally unstable) so mag sstruggle na naman ako lalo na sa first stages.

nashmacoy101

@MejoMayabang said:

@nashmacoy101 said:

@MejoMayabang said:
@nashmacoy101

Thanks.

To All,

Any more suggestions? How about items 1, 3, 5 and 6 sa first message ko? Do u mind sharing your experience? I'm ok if your not comfortable mag reply in public, u can private message me.

Lalo tuloy ako na-momotivate kapag my nagrereply. Magbaback read ako to study and check the previous post at para makilala ko din ung mga tao nagrereply sa akin.

Anyone tried New Zealand? any suggestions?

actually, plan din namin NZ nung nagbakasyon kami sa Auckland last November nagustuhan ko din kaso sa Skilled Migration nila Job offer letter is 50pts (need a minimum 160pts para mainvite), which is ang hirap kapag overseas mag apply. currently we are at 145 pts excluding job offer letter.
ok can u send me the link ng skilled migration nila? salamat what i learned from you is visa 189 and 195 including MSA Booklet. Nagccheck ako sa Linkedin my mga Filipino Engineers at Architects na nandun, meron pa nga sila Facebook group.
Anyways how about shortcut? Meaning ung didiskarte ka since nanjan ang ung 2 kapatid ko. Sila na magaapply para sayo? Good response @nashmacoy101
Anymore Engineers aldy in AUS? Mas ok sa akin ung mag kkwento ng "OK nandito na kami sa AUS pero hindi ko pala ini-expect ng ganito" ung mga stories na "what people didn't know about moving in Australia?" Kasi ok ung life ko (financially and healthy pero emotionally unstable) so mag sstruggle na naman ako lalo na sa first stages.

491 Family Sponsor not 195.

Kaidan

@MejoMayabang said:

@nashmacoy101 said:

@MejoMayabang said:
@nashmacoy101

Thanks.

To All,

Any more suggestions? How about items 1, 3, 5 and 6 sa first message ko? Do u mind sharing your experience? I'm ok if your not comfortable mag reply in public, u can private message me.

Lalo tuloy ako na-momotivate kapag my nagrereply. Magbaback read ako to study and check the previous post at para makilala ko din ung mga tao nagrereply sa akin.

Anyone tried New Zealand? any suggestions?

actually, plan din namin NZ nung nagbakasyon kami sa Auckland last November nagustuhan ko din kaso sa Skilled Migration nila Job offer letter is 50pts (need a minimum 160pts para mainvite), which is ang hirap kapag overseas mag apply. currently we are at 145 pts excluding job offer letter.
ok can u send me the link ng skilled migration nila? salamat what i learned from you is visa 189 and 195 including MSA Booklet. Nagccheck ako sa Linkedin my mga Filipino Engineers at Architects na nandun, meron pa nga sila Facebook group.
Anyways how about shortcut? Meaning ung didiskarte ka since nanjan ang ung 2 kapatid ko. Sila na magaapply para sayo? Good response @nashmacoy101
Anymore Engineers aldy in AUS? Mas ok sa akin ung mag kkwento ng "OK nandito na kami sa AUS pero hindi ko pala ini-expect ng ganito" ung mga stories na "what people didn't know about moving in Australia?" Kasi ok ung life ko (financially and healthy pero emotionally unstable) so mag sstruggle na naman ako lalo na sa first stages.

Nakalimutan mo i-bring up dito sa 2 previous replies mo kung gano ka pogi. sayang di mo ma edit. pwede mo i-follow up sa next reply mo. Wag mo kalimutan, important info yun para sa goal mo dito. lol

MejoMayabang

@Kaidan said:

@MejoMayabang said:

@nashmacoy101 said:

@MejoMayabang said:
@nashmacoy101

Thanks.

To All,

Any more suggestions? How about items 1, 3, 5 and 6 sa first message ko? Do u mind sharing your experience? I'm ok if your not comfortable mag reply in public, u can private message me.

Lalo tuloy ako na-momotivate kapag my nagrereply. Magbaback read ako to study and check the previous post at para makilala ko din ung mga tao nagrereply sa akin.

Anyone tried New Zealand? any suggestions?

actually, plan din namin NZ nung nagbakasyon kami sa Auckland last November nagustuhan ko din kaso sa Skilled Migration nila Job offer letter is 50pts (need a minimum 160pts para mainvite), which is ang hirap kapag overseas mag apply. currently we are at 145 pts excluding job offer letter.

ok can u send me the link ng skilled migration nila? salamat what i learned from you is visa 189 and 195 including MSA Booklet. Nagccheck ako sa Linkedin my mga Filipino Engineers at Architects na nandun, meron pa nga sila Facebook group.

Anyways how about shortcut? Meaning ung didiskarte ka since nanjan ang ung 2 kapatid ko. Sila na magaapply para sayo? Good response @nashmacoy101

Anymore Engineers aldy in AUS? Mas ok sa akin ung mag kkwento ng "OK nandito na kami sa AUS pero hindi ko pala ini-expect ng ganito" ung mga stories na "what people didn't know about moving in Australia?" Kasi ok ung life ko (financially and healthy pero emotionally unstable) so mag sstruggle na naman ako lalo na sa first stages.
Nakalimutan mo i-bring up dito sa 2 previous replies mo kung gano ka pogi. sayang di mo ma edit. pwede mo i-follow up sa next reply mo. Wag mo kalimutan, important info yun para sa goal mo dito. lol

@Kaidan thanks pero nagiging korny na. Usually sa experience ko na ganyan kapag pinupuna ung itsura ko, insecure ka cguro sa itsura mo. Anymore relevant or intelligent response?

Para kang hindi Engineer. Cge ano windload jan sa Australia?

Anyways Yes hinihintay ko ung OZ link na na-banggit ni @nashmacoy101

Captain_A

@MejoMayabang said:

ang current work mo is structural engineer, pero ang education mo is ECE? Tama ba?

one option can be student visa pathway, if financially you can support yourself, then go with 189 190 or 491.

maybe, you can also see an agent to have a better understanding aling pathway ang pinaka swak sa circumstances mo.. all the best to you

Captain_A

@MejoMayabang said:

regarding the shortcut about your siblings, i think they can only sponsor you if they live on regional areas..

i think for 189, not possible

Captain_A

@japjap1001 said:
Hi, Good Day! ECE graduate po ako and may MBA degree din ako din sa pinas. medyo related din ang experience ko as an ECE at medyo naapply din yung masters degree ko sa current work.

is it advisable po na iinclude ko yung masters degree sa application knowing na unrelated ito sa bachelors degree ko? gusto ko kasi sana isama dahil wala sa recognized school yung BS degree ko and yung sa masters ko ay included sa recognized school?
in addition, malaking factor din po ba ang pagkakaroon ng PRC License? may nabasa kasi ako na thread dito regarding sa PRC license na ginagawa siyang supporting documents?
any advise po? Salamat po ng marami!

ano bang nominated occupation mo?'

i think PRC license is not required

japjap1001

@captain_A Electronics Engineer ang balak kong kunin na nominated occupation.

May nabasa kasi ako kapag hindi kasama sa listed university ang school mas maigi na may PRC para mabigyan daw ng bachelors rating else diploma/trade qualification ang ibigay na rating pero not sure if applicable padin ba.

Kaya kinonsider ko na ilagay masters degree ko para mabigyan ng medyo magandang rating kaso not related sa previous course.

Medyo kabado kasi ako sa school dahil di masyado kilala yung school ko sayang yung rating😅

TIA.

Captain_A

@japjap1001 said:
@captain_A Electronics Engineer ang balak kong kunin na nominated occupation.
May nabasa kasi ako kapag hindi kasama sa listed university ang school mas maigi na may PRC para mabigyan daw ng bachelors rating else diploma/trade qualification ang ibigay na rating pero not sure if applicable padin ba.

Kaya kinonsider ko na ilagay masters degree ko para mabigyan ng medyo magandang rating kaso not related sa previous course.
Medyo kabado kasi ako sa school dahil di masyado kilala yung school ko sayang yung rating😅
TIA.
sa unawa ko sa EA assessment, for you to claim points for bachelors degree or Masters, it needs to be a RECOGNIZED STANDARD.. so need ng EA assessment to be a recognized standard ang BS mo or Masters mo,

will EA be able to asssess your Masters if hndi sya engineering? parang hindi ata.. only my opinion..

juju06

@japjap1001 di ko sure kung pano mangyayari sa case mo pero ayon sa MSA booklet kailangan mo ng PRC license.

RheaMARN1171933

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@silverbullet said:
Hello everyone,

Meron na reply sakin ang EA, nag lodge ako ng June 9, hehe ngayun meron response.
Ito po yung response sakin.

1.Your career episodes lack demonstration of your competency as a professional engineer. It is not enough to state what you did but you need to demonstrate how you used your engineering knowledge and skills to do the tasks as a Mechanical Engineer.
2.Please, re-write and re-submit all 3 career episodes.
3.Please, refer to pages 31-36 of MSA Booklet to make sure that your updated episode properly addresses each competency element.
4.Focus on how you used your engineering skills and knowledge to plan, design, organise and oversee the assembly, erection, commissioning, operation and maintenance of mechanical and process plant and installations.

Update the Summary Statement
6.Note that if your updated career episode is not sufficiently improved you may not receive a positive outcome of your assessment.

Baka po meron makatulong sakin mag rewrite ng CDR ko. I am willing to pay po. or kung meron kayong kakilala please lemme know po. Thank you.
Be mindful of plagiarism. I wouldn’t recommend to get someone to do your career episode.

@juju06 said:
@japjap1001 di ko sure kung pano mangyayari sa case mo pero ayon sa MSA booklet kailangan mo ng PRC license.

PRC only when applicable but not a must. Basically, the qualification must be equivalent to an AQF bachelors degree. EA will refer to the CEP from the department of education and training to check this. If the institution where the qualification was obtained from is listed under section 1 then it meets the recognised standards. If it’s under section 2 then the PRC is needed to meet the recognised standards. Hope that helps.

jakibantiles

@juju06 said:
@japjap1001 di ko sure kung pano mangyayari sa case mo pero ayon sa MSA booklet kailangan mo ng PRC license.

Yung husband ko po graduate ng Bachelor of Technology Major in Mech Eng'g from section 1 univ, may approved EA assessment for Mechanical Engineer. Hinanapan siya ng PRC license. Inexplain namin na di makakapagprovide kasi walang licensure yun sa pinas (Bachelor of Sci ang meron). Tapos nagfeedback ulit na kailangan magsubmit ng license at hindi irerecognize yung work exp nya sa pinas kung wala. So sabi namin we're okay with it, kasi wala talaga. Ang result, Singapore experience lang recognized, ME pa rin naman. 2yrs din yung di nabilang. So pag isipan po mabuti if you are working for points.

juju06

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

PRC only when applicable but not a must. Basically, the qualification must be equivalent to an AQF bachelors degree. EA will refer to the CEP from the department of education and training to check this. If the institution where the qualification was obtained from is listed under section 1 then it meets the recognised standards. If it’s under section 2 then the PRC is needed to meet the recognised standards. Hope that helps.

Hi Ms. Rhea, thank you for this clarification. Would like to clarify further: isn't the license required for engineering professions that can be licensed in the Philippines? From what you mentioned, the license helps for those with qualifications under section 2 to be upgraded to section 1. But as what @jakibantiles mentioned, I think if you're claiming points for engineering experience in the Philippines for a profession that can be licensed, I think the license is required to submit to EA also since it is required by Philippine law to have it in order to practice your profession. Thus, it is possible that EA will not count your engineering experience in the Philippines if you do not have a valid license because it can be deemed illegal.

Just my thought though. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thank you!

Kaidan

@juju06 said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

PRC only when applicable but not a must. Basically, the qualification must be equivalent to an AQF bachelors degree. EA will refer to the CEP from the department of education and training to check this. If the institution where the qualification was obtained from is listed under section 1 then it meets the recognised standards. If it’s under section 2 then the PRC is needed to meet the recognised standards. Hope that helps.
Hi Ms. Rhea, thank you for this clarification. Would like to clarify further: isn't the license required for engineering professions that can be licensed in the Philippines? From what you mentioned, the license helps for those with qualifications under section 2 to be upgraded to section 1. But as what @jakibantiles mentioned, I think if you're claiming points for engineering experience in the Philippines for a profession that can be licensed, I think the license is required to submit to EA also since it is required by Philippine law to have it in order to practice your profession. Thus, it is possible that EA will not count your engineering experience in the Philippines if you do not have a valid license because it can be deemed illegal.
Just my thought though. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thank you!

PRC (may be) a requirement to recognize the experience but not the requirement to recognize the school as AQF bachelors equivalent. I think the confusion is there. If I'm not mistaken, may separate service kasi ang EA for each for some circumstances.

But I have to comment with regard to your assertion that it is illegal to "practice" without a licence. Could only be true if you're self employed practicing engineer but if you work for a company, it is not illegal to be employed as a non-licensed engineer to do the works for your company unless you sign engineering documents. Because if that's the case, no engineer from the PH can be employed in SG and Dubai for example without taking licensing exams in those countries, if you follow that licensing logic. Technically this should still be assessed as engineering experience though.

MejoMayabang

@Captain_A said:

@MejoMayabang said:
ang current work mo is structural engineer, pero ang education mo is ECE? Tama ba?
one option can be student visa pathway, if financially you can support yourself, then go with 189 190 or 491.
maybe, you can also see an agent to have a better understanding aling pathway ang pinaka swak sa circumstances mo.. all the best to you
Yes. Started my career as an Autocad draftsman sabi kasi sa job description nun Engineering Degree lang kailangan. From there started my way up to drawings to calcs to site works and project management. Best part naginvest sa kin ung mga company pinasukan ko at pinag aral ako ng short courses. #ARUP

Minsan my mga tao swerte sa career pero hindi sa lovelife #johnlloyd So moving forward nahanap ko ung short cut, nagaral ung kapatid ko meaning SubClass 500 sya. Pwede pala magdala ng family members. Kung alam ko lang sana last year pako nakapunta sa Australia.

Since name ko ay MejoMayabang, lahat ng napasukan kong bansa/company puro direct hire meaning sila lahat nagsponsor ng visa sa akin online interview yan. Thanks lahat sa Dubai which catapult my engineering career. Thanks dependent visa lang pala sagot jan, ako na lang didiskarte na makahanap ng company magssponsor sa akin.

Parang c Vic Sotto lang yan naka diskarte pa ng Pauleen Luna. C Erap nga eh high school graduate naka diskarte maging Presidente ng Pinas. My ka-officemate nga ako taga UP sa Singapore, wala under sya sa akin na-cocontrol ko sya lahat ng movement at submission nya. Meaning sa gulong ng buhay nasa diskarte pala yan. Kita kits magppost ako ng Pic dito upon arrival in AUS.

cacophony

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RheaMARN1171933

@juju06 said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

PRC only when applicable but not a must. Basically, the qualification must be equivalent to an AQF bachelors degree. EA will refer to the CEP from the department of education and training to check this. If the institution where the qualification was obtained from is listed under section 1 then it meets the recognised standards. If it’s under section 2 then the PRC is needed to meet the recognised standards. Hope that helps.
Hi Ms. Rhea, thank you for this clarification. Would like to clarify further: isn't the license required for engineering professions that can be licensed in the Philippines? From what you mentioned, the license helps for those with qualifications under section 2 to be upgraded to section 1. But as what @jakibantiles mentioned, I think if you're claiming points for engineering experience in the Philippines for a profession that can be licensed, I think the license is required to submit to EA also since it is required by Philippine law to have it in order to practice your profession. Thus, it is possible that EA will not count your engineering experience in the Philippines if you do not have a valid license because it can be deemed illegal.
Just my thought though. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thank you!

@juju06 said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

PRC only when applicable but not a must. Basically, the qualification must be equivalent to an AQF bachelors degree. EA will refer to the CEP from the department of education and training to check this. If the institution where the qualification was obtained from is listed under section 1 then it meets the recognised standards. If it’s under section 2 then the PRC is needed to meet the recognised standards. Hope that helps.
Hi Ms. Rhea, thank you for this clarification. Would like to clarify further: isn't the license required for engineering professions that can be licensed in the Philippines? From what you mentioned, the license helps for those with qualifications under section 2 to be upgraded to section 1. But as what @jakibantiles mentioned, I think if you're claiming points for engineering experience in the Philippines for a profession that can be licensed, I think the license is required to submit to EA also since it is required by Philippine law to have it in order to practice your profession. Thus, it is possible that EA will not count your engineering experience in the Philippines if you do not have a valid license because it can be deemed illegal.
Just my thought though. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thank you!

@juju06 said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

PRC only when applicable but not a must. Basically, the qualification must be equivalent to an AQF bachelors degree. EA will refer to the CEP from the department of education and training to check this. If the institution where the qualification was obtained from is listed under section 1 then it meets the recognised standards. If it’s under section 2 then the PRC is needed to meet the recognised standards. Hope that helps.
Hi Ms. Rhea, thank you for this clarification. Would like to clarify further: isn't the license required for engineering professions that can be licensed in the Philippines? From what you mentioned, the license helps for those with qualifications under section 2 to be upgraded to section 1. But as what @jakibantiles mentioned, I think if you're claiming points for engineering experience in the Philippinesfor a profession that can be licensed, I think the license is required to submit to EA also since it is required by Philippine law to have it in order to practice your profession. Thus, it is possible that EA will not count your engineering experience in the Philippines if you do not have a valid license because it can be deemed illegal.
Just my thought though. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thank you!

Definitely not a requirement. The PRC only helps when institution is under section 2 as far as skills assessment and migration is concerned. We’ve handled x amount of clients without a licence. Not all engineers are required to have licence. You can still claim work experience without licence as long as your institution is under section 1.

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