Get an agent or DIY.

xiaolico

@Jacraye said:

@xiaolico said:

@Jacraye said:

@xiaolico said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@xiaolico said:

@brehbrehbreh said:
Just sharing my experience din, most agents I talked to are adamant at getting you a Student Visa instead of skilled migration because they earn through the school. I have yet to meet an agency that does not immediately push you to take the school route. That's what puts me off. I once asked this MARA certified guy about 189, 190, 491, etc and he just brushed it off as "yes, you can do that, but the chances are low". Not saying he's not wrong, I just didn't prefer the student route as it's incredibly expensive, but he could have helped me at least with alternative options. I'm outside Manila btw so fewer agencies here.

Promote ko lang yung rinamit ko. Respall, they highly discourage yung student visa route. in case yun talaga gusto ng person, they will not help out na. They do not process students visas. Kaya I highly recommend them. Regarding student visa, me personally ha, sa mga nakausap ko, student visa, DIY ka na lang. Same as most din, if nasa 36 pataas ka na, i do not suggest mag student visa yung tao. not unless, aral talaga habol niya.

I agree. No need for an agent to apply for a student visa. Save your money instead. And yes, if your intention is to move there permanently then a student visa isn’t the best option for your purpose.

Siguro itworked for some, yung student visa as a path way to PR. parang ang hirap lang kasi, grabe dinadaan ng mga yun. I guess it will all depend on anong buhay iniiwan mo sa pinas. The student path might not actually be a step forward if may edad ka na. it is really hard to put yur career on hold for 2 or more years. tas it will really be hard for your partner if meron, to get a good job with the visa restrictions and company limitations as well. Just my opinion 🙂

In my experience, it worked for most people specially sa mga nurses. I'm not a nurse btw, but I have a lot of friends and acquaintances who are nurses. Almost the same story and most of them started their journey by becoming a student and now PR na sila, some citizens already. And having a partner, in my experience, is not a total disadvantage for as long as he is willing to work any job.

Sa palagay ko lahat naman ng gusto makapunta sa AU ang aim is PR or work visa at the least. The question is, do you qualify to apply for it? yun lang naman tanong dun. And if you fail to meet the requirements, then one can choose other options which is either quit the au dream or become a student and be ready for hardships. Karamihan naman sa nakilala ko na nagstart sa student e sanay sa hirap, hindi pihikan at hindi maluho. Sakripisyo talaga muna at tyaga sa umpisa. saka na ang walwal kapag PR na.

Just in case one chooses the student pathway and engage with an agent, kung may processing fee sila na singilin para sa student visa nyo, maghanap kayo ng ibang agent. May mga agency dyan na hindi naniningil ng processing fee for student visa dahil may commission na sila sa school. At may iba na tutulungan ka pa i-process yung PR visa mo for free basta sila yung agent mo in getting your student visa. =D

Can I ask, anong age range nung mga kilala mo? and what year or years to? siguro kaunti lang kilala ko kaya i said what i said. I moved to au, more than two years ago. friends ko mga 38 pataas. wala ako nakausap pa na success story from a student visa from a little more than 2yrs ago and age 38 pataas. Kaya i guess i said what i said. none of them studied nursing as well, so hindi nga siguro ako reliable 🙂. and yung any job for the partner, yeah i guess it depends anong career yung iniiwan mo sa pinas. ang mahal kasi ng tuition talaga. anway, good luck to everyone
Age range would be mid 20s to mid 30s. about the partners, I know a few having the same scenario of both of them RN in Ph, Student si main applicant and secondary si partner, main studies & work and partner works as well, main enrolls bridging while partner still works, main gets nursing license and continues working, main gets sponsorship then partner starts bridging. work done by the partners mostly not nursing related. Some of them struggled due to wrong choices and wrong agents but still managed to get their PR.

Ah yun. Game changer yung 20s to 30s. I guess in my opinion, 36 up, wag na student

Jacraye

@xiaolico said:

@Jacraye said:

@xiaolico said:

@Jacraye said:

@xiaolico said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@xiaolico said:

@brehbrehbreh said:
Just sharing my experience din, most agents I talked to are adamant at getting you a Student Visa instead of skilled migration because they earn through the school. I have yet to meet an agency that does not immediately push you to take the school route. That's what puts me off. I once asked this MARA certified guy about 189, 190, 491, etc and he just brushed it off as "yes, you can do that, but the chances are low". Not saying he's not wrong, I just didn't prefer the student route as it's incredibly expensive, but he could have helped me at least with alternative options. I'm outside Manila btw so fewer agencies here.

Promote ko lang yung rinamit ko. Respall, they highly discourage yung student visa route. in case yun talaga gusto ng person, they will not help out na. They do not process students visas. Kaya I highly recommend them. Regarding student visa, me personally ha, sa mga nakausap ko, student visa, DIY ka na lang. Same as most din, if nasa 36 pataas ka na, i do not suggest mag student visa yung tao. not unless, aral talaga habol niya.

I agree. No need for an agent to apply for a student visa. Save your money instead. And yes, if your intention is to move there permanently then a student visa isn’t the best option for your purpose.

Siguro itworked for some, yung student visa as a path way to PR. parang ang hirap lang kasi, grabe dinadaan ng mga yun. I guess it will all depend on anong buhay iniiwan mo sa pinas. The student path might not actually be a step forward if may edad ka na. it is really hard to put yur career on hold for 2 or more years. tas it will really be hard for your partner if meron, to get a good job with the visa restrictions and company limitations as well. Just my opinion 🙂

In my experience, it worked for most people specially sa mga nurses. I'm not a nurse btw, but I have a lot of friends and acquaintances who are nurses. Almost the same story and most of them started their journey by becoming a student and now PR na sila, some citizens already. And having a partner, in my experience, is not a total disadvantage for as long as he is willing to work any job.

Sa palagay ko lahat naman ng gusto makapunta sa AU ang aim is PR or work visa at the least. The question is, do you qualify to apply for it? yun lang naman tanong dun. And if you fail to meet the requirements, then one can choose other options which is either quit the au dream or become a student and be ready for hardships. Karamihan naman sa nakilala ko na nagstart sa student e sanay sa hirap, hindi pihikan at hindi maluho. Sakripisyo talaga muna at tyaga sa umpisa. saka na ang walwal kapag PR na.

Just in case one chooses the student pathway and engage with an agent, kung may processing fee sila na singilin para sa student visa nyo, maghanap kayo ng ibang agent. May mga agency dyan na hindi naniningil ng processing fee for student visa dahil may commission na sila sa school. At may iba na tutulungan ka pa i-process yung PR visa mo for free basta sila yung agent mo in getting your student visa. =D

Can I ask, anong age range nung mga kilala mo? and what year or years to? siguro kaunti lang kilala ko kaya i said what i said. I moved to au, more than two years ago. friends ko mga 38 pataas. wala ako nakausap pa na success story from a student visa from a little more than 2yrs ago and age 38 pataas. Kaya i guess i said what i said. none of them studied nursing as well, so hindi nga siguro ako reliable 🙂. and yung any job for the partner, yeah i guess it depends anong career yung iniiwan mo sa pinas. ang mahal kasi ng tuition talaga. anway, good luck to everyone

Age range would be mid 20s to mid 30s. about the partners, I know a few having the same scenario of both of them RN in Ph, Student si main applicant and secondary si partner, main studies & work and partner works as well, main enrolls bridging while partner still works, main gets nursing license and continues working, main gets sponsorship then partner starts bridging. work done by the partners mostly not nursing related. Some of them struggled due to wrong choices and wrong agents but still managed to get their PR.
Ah yun. Game changer yung 20s to 30s. I guess in my opinion, 36 up, wag na student

I agree. Usually at that age rekta PR visa ang priority or working visa at the least. But you'll be surprised, that there will still be a few who will insist even at the late age na kumuha ng student visa for the purpose of just going to AU in the belief that they can work things out in the 2years time frame kapag on shore na sila. And if wala na ibang option at kapos na sa oras, maghahanap na lang ng jojowain na PR or citizen para lang makakuha ng residency.

RheaMARN1171933

@xiaolico said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@xiaolico said:

@brehbrehbreh said:
Just sharing my experience din, most agents I talked to are adamant at getting you a Student Visa instead of skilled migration because they earn through the school. I have yet to meet an agency that does not immediately push you to take the school route. That's what puts me off. I once asked this MARA certified guy about 189, 190, 491, etc and he just brushed it off as "yes, you can do that, but the chances are low". Not saying he's not wrong, I just didn't prefer the student route as it's incredibly expensive, but he could have helped me at least with alternative options. I'm outside Manila btw so fewer agencies here.

Promote ko lang yung rinamit ko. Respall, they highly discourage yung student visa route. in case yun talaga gusto ng person, they will not help out na. They do not process students visas. Kaya I highly recommend them. Regarding student visa, me personally ha, sa mga nakausap ko, student visa, DIY ka na lang. Same as most din, if nasa 36 pataas ka na, i do not suggest mag student visa yung tao. not unless, aral talaga habol niya.

I agree. No need for an agent to apply for a student visa. Save your money instead. And yes, if your intention is to move there permanently then a student visa isn’t the best option for your purpose.

Siguro itworked for some, yung student visa as a path way to PR. parang ang hirap lang kasi, grabe dinadaan ng mga yun. I guess it will all depend on anong buhay iniiwan mo sa pinas. The student path might not actually be a step forward if may edad ka na. it is really hard to put yur career on hold for 2 or more years. tas it will really be hard for your partner if meron, to get a good job with the visa restrictions and company limitations as well. Just my opinion 🙂

I’m actually a product of a student visa myself and it worked for me. I came to Australia I was only 22 years of age many years ago. though I could say even if life was probably not as hard compared to others since I was financed by my parents, it was still tough but regardless of that side of things, I’m more referring to the uncertainty of this path way due to the fact that in the 2 years that you’re trying to satisfy the study requirement, policy would likely change. I nearly missed out on my chance for a PR if it would have not been for my agent back then.

Now that I’m an agent myself, I have considered many times to offer this service but decided against it. I just can’t find it within my morals to assist someone knowing the amount of money they will be spending on something I could see as uncertain. It is a messy pathway and don’t want to be a part of it at all. I’d rather lose on the commissions I would potentially earn from agencies than capitalise on the aspiring migrants desperate to make things work.

RheaMARN1171933

@Jacraye said:

@xiaolico said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@xiaolico said:

@brehbrehbreh said:
Just sharing my experience din, most agents I talked to are adamant at getting you a Student Visa instead of skilled migration because they earn through the school. I have yet to meet an agency that does not immediately push you to take the school route. That's what puts me off. I once asked this MARA certified guy about 189, 190, 491, etc and he just brushed it off as "yes, you can do that, but the chances are low". Not saying he's not wrong, I just didn't prefer the student route as it's incredibly expensive, but he could have helped me at least with alternative options. I'm outside Manila btw so fewer agencies here.

Promote ko lang yung rinamit ko. Respall, they highly discourage yung student visa route. in case yun talaga gusto ng person, they will not help out na. They do not process students visas. Kaya I highly recommend them. Regarding student visa, me personally ha, sa mga nakausap ko, student visa, DIY ka na lang. Same as most din, if nasa 36 pataas ka na, i do not suggest mag student visa yung tao. not unless, aral talaga habol niya.

I agree. No need for an agent to apply for a student visa. Save your money instead. And yes, if your intention is to move there permanently then a student visa isn’t the best option for your purpose.

Siguro itworked for some, yung student visa as a path way to PR. parang ang hirap lang kasi, grabe dinadaan ng mga yun. I guess it will all depend on anong buhay iniiwan mo sa pinas. The student path might not actually be a step forward if may edad ka na. it is really hard to put yur career on hold for 2 or more years. tas it will really be hard for your partner if meron, to get a good job with the visa restrictions and company limitations as well. Just my opinion 🙂
In my experience, it worked for most people specially sa mga nurses. I'm not a nurse btw, but I have a lot of friends and acquaintances who are nurses. Almost the same story and most of them started their journey by becoming a student and now PR na sila, some citizens already. And having a partner, in my experience, is not a total disadvantage for as long as he is willing to work any job.
Sa palagay ko lahat naman ng gusto makapunta sa AU ang aim is PR or work visa at the least. The question is, do you qualify to apply for it? yun lang naman tanong dun. And if you fail to meet the requirements, then one can choose other options which is either quit the au dream or become a student and be ready for hardships. Karamihan naman sa nakilala ko na nagstart sa student e sanay sa hirap, hindi pihikan at hindi maluho. Sakripisyo talaga muna at tyaga sa umpisa. saka na ang walwal kapag PR na.
Just in case one chooses the student pathway and engage with an agent, kung may processing fee sila na singilin para sa student visa nyo, maghanap kayo ng ibang agent. May mga agency dyan na hindi naniningil ng processing fee for student visa dahil may commission na sila sa school. At may iba na tutulungan ka pa i-process yung PR visa mo for free basta sila yung agent mo in getting your student visa. =D

It’s a different case with nurses though since they just need to do a bridging course.

If one insists to still study, I would highly recommend IDP in Makati. Not sure if they are still located there though as I’m referring to the time I used them 20 years ago. I didn’t use a migration agent at all, they guided me but during that time internet wasnt utilised much as it is being used now. Nowadays you can find everything on the internet. The immigration website is the best source. Student visa is very straightforward, there really is no need for an agent.

maguero

@xiaolico said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@xiaolico said:

@brehbrehbreh said:
Just sharing my experience din, most agents I talked to are adamant at getting you a Student Visa instead of skilled migration because they earn through the school. I have yet to meet an agency that does not immediately push you to take the school route. That's what puts me off. I once asked this MARA certified guy about 189, 190, 491, etc and he just brushed it off as "yes, you can do that, but the chances are low". Not saying he's not wrong, I just didn't prefer the student route as it's incredibly expensive, but he could have helped me at least with alternative options. I'm outside Manila btw so fewer agencies here.

Promote ko lang yung rinamit ko. Respall, they highly discourage yung student visa route. in case yun talaga gusto ng person, they will not help out na. They do not process students visas. Kaya I highly recommend them. Regarding student visa, me personally ha, sa mga nakausap ko, student visa, DIY ka na lang. Same as most din, if nasa 36 pataas ka na, i do not suggest mag student visa yung tao. not unless, aral talaga habol niya.

I agree. No need for an agent to apply for a student visa. Save your money instead. And yes, if your intention is to move there permanently then a student visa isn’t the best option for your purpose.

Siguro itworked for some, yung student visa as a path way to PR. parang ang hirap lang kasi, grabe dinadaan ng mga yun. I guess it will all depend on anong buhay iniiwan mo sa pinas. The student path might not actually be a step forward if may edad ka na. it is really hard to put yur career on hold for 2 or more years. tas it will really be hard for your partner if meron, to get a good job with the visa restrictions and company limitations as well. Just my opinion 🙂

Mahirap yung decision kapag mid-career na kasi substantial na rin yung kailangan igive-up. I considered student visa rin dati kasi nasa CSOL lang occupation ko, kaunti lang states nagssponsor & madalang pa magsponsor. In the end, I decided to stay in my job & increase points through tenure while exhausting all possible ways to get a skilled visa. Almost 2 years din ako nag-antay makakuha ng ITA. Pero yun lang, nasa list kasi occupation ko. Kung wala sa list ang occupation ang tanong din is kung gusto pa ba magcareer change at this point?

Jacraye

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@Jacraye said:

@xiaolico said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@xiaolico said:

@brehbrehbreh said:
Just sharing my experience din, most agents I talked to are adamant at getting you a Student Visa instead of skilled migration because they earn through the school. I have yet to meet an agency that does not immediately push you to take the school route. That's what puts me off. I once asked this MARA certified guy about 189, 190, 491, etc and he just brushed it off as "yes, you can do that, but the chances are low". Not saying he's not wrong, I just didn't prefer the student route as it's incredibly expensive, but he could have helped me at least with alternative options. I'm outside Manila btw so fewer agencies here.

Promote ko lang yung rinamit ko. Respall, they highly discourage yung student visa route. in case yun talaga gusto ng person, they will not help out na. They do not process students visas. Kaya I highly recommend them. Regarding student visa, me personally ha, sa mga nakausap ko, student visa, DIY ka na lang. Same as most din, if nasa 36 pataas ka na, i do not suggest mag student visa yung tao. not unless, aral talaga habol niya.

I agree. No need for an agent to apply for a student visa. Save your money instead. And yes, if your intention is to move there permanently then a student visa isn’t the best option for your purpose.

Siguro itworked for some, yung student visa as a path way to PR. parang ang hirap lang kasi, grabe dinadaan ng mga yun. I guess it will all depend on anong buhay iniiwan mo sa pinas. The student path might not actually be a step forward if may edad ka na. it is really hard to put yur career on hold for 2 or more years. tas it will really be hard for your partner if meron, to get a good job with the visa restrictions and company limitations as well. Just my opinion 🙂

In my experience, it worked for most people specially sa mga nurses. I'm not a nurse btw, but I have a lot of friends and acquaintances who are nurses. Almost the same story and most of them started their journey by becoming a student and now PR na sila, some citizens already. And having a partner, in my experience, is not a total disadvantage for as long as he is willing to work any job.

Sa palagay ko lahat naman ng gusto makapunta sa AU ang aim is PR or work visa at the least. The question is, do you qualify to apply for it? yun lang naman tanong dun. And if you fail to meet the requirements, then one can choose other options which is either quit the au dream or become a student and be ready for hardships. Karamihan naman sa nakilala ko na nagstart sa student e sanay sa hirap, hindi pihikan at hindi maluho. Sakripisyo talaga muna at tyaga sa umpisa. saka na ang walwal kapag PR na.

Just in case one chooses the student pathway and engage with an agent, kung may processing fee sila na singilin para sa student visa nyo, maghanap kayo ng ibang agent. May mga agency dyan na hindi naniningil ng processing fee for student visa dahil may commission na sila sa school. At may iba na tutulungan ka pa i-process yung PR visa mo for free basta sila yung agent mo in getting your student visa. =D
It’s a different case with nurses though since they just need to do a bridging course.
If one insists to still study, I would highly recommend IDP in Makati. Not sure if they are still located there though as I’m referring to the time I used them 20 years ago. I didn’t use a migration agent at all, they guided me but during that time internet wasnt utilised much as it is being used now. Nowadays you can find everything on the internet. The immigration website is the best source. Student visa is very straightforward, there really is no need for an agent.

Yep, different scenario sa mga nurses. however they have to choose whether to take up uni then get their bridging or rekta bridging. both will have pros and cons.

Student will give you more time to prepare for the bridging since usually as a student you'll be getting a 2yrs visa. and it's not just preparing for bridging, it also gives you time to look for a good employer. maraming scenario pa ang pwede mangyari sa 2 years.

Kapag bridging naman, time is not on your side. short stay lang ang visa. so you will be only focusing on your studies and because of that hindi ka makakapag work. after getting your RN kelangan makahanap ka na kagad ng sponsor mo. or else balik ka pinas. Unfortunately, this happens to some. since paso na visa, kelangan na umuwi tapos from pinas na lang sila nag-aapply for work.

Both scenarios will not guaranty that after one gets his/her RN in au e madali na makakuha ng sponsorship. but both pathways can get you closer to having a PR.

So far, sa mga nurses there is one agency that stood out, Tagumpay Consulting Services. Au based consultancy. I dunno kung may office sila sa pinas but they usually meet their clients personally in the Ph and plan from there.

xiaolico

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@xiaolico said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@xiaolico said:

@brehbrehbreh said:
Just sharing my experience din, most agents I talked to are adamant at getting you a Student Visa instead of skilled migration because they earn through the school. I have yet to meet an agency that does not immediately push you to take the school route. That's what puts me off. I once asked this MARA certified guy about 189, 190, 491, etc and he just brushed it off as "yes, you can do that, but the chances are low". Not saying he's not wrong, I just didn't prefer the student route as it's incredibly expensive, but he could have helped me at least with alternative options. I'm outside Manila btw so fewer agencies here.

Promote ko lang yung rinamit ko. Respall, they highly discourage yung student visa route. in case yun talaga gusto ng person, they will not help out na. They do not process students visas. Kaya I highly recommend them. Regarding student visa, me personally ha, sa mga nakausap ko, student visa, DIY ka na lang. Same as most din, if nasa 36 pataas ka na, i do not suggest mag student visa yung tao. not unless, aral talaga habol niya.

I agree. No need for an agent to apply for a student visa. Save your money instead. And yes, if your intention is to move there permanently then a student visa isn’t the best option for your purpose.

Siguro itworked for some, yung student visa as a path way to PR. parang ang hirap lang kasi, grabe dinadaan ng mga yun. I guess it will all depend on anong buhay iniiwan mo sa pinas. The student path might not actually be a step forward if may edad ka na. it is really hard to put yur career on hold for 2 or more years. tas it will really be hard for your partner if meron, to get a good job with the visa restrictions and company limitations as well. Just my opinion 🙂
I’m actually a product of a student visa myself and it worked for me. I came to Australia I was only 22 years of age many years ago. though I could say even if life was probably not as hard compared to others since I was financed by my parents, it was still tough but regardless of that side of things, I’m more referring to the uncertainty of this path way due to the fact that in the 2 years that you’re trying to satisfy the study requirement, policy would likely change. I nearly missed out on my chance for a PR if it would have not been for my agent back then.
Now that I’m an agent myself, I have considered many times to offer this service but decided against it. I just can’t find it within my morals to assist someone knowing the amount of money they will be spending on something I could see as uncertain. It is a messy pathway and don’t want to be a part of it at all. I’d rather lose on the commissions I would potentially earn from agencies than capitalise on the aspiring migrants desperate to make things work.

Good for you. I am not an agent, di ko talaga kaya iadvice yung student visa sa mga ka age group ko. normally ang sinasabi ko, check other countries. pero sobrang good for you, looking beyond the money. i believe in your industry, crucial yung ethics. hindi lang pera, pati yung future ng tao naka taya. so happy na you advice against student visa or not process it at all.

xiaolico

@maguero said:

@xiaolico said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@xiaolico said:

@brehbrehbreh said:
Just sharing my experience din, most agents I talked to are adamant at getting you a Student Visa instead of skilled migration because they earn through the school. I have yet to meet an agency that does not immediately push you to take the school route. That's what puts me off. I once asked this MARA certified guy about 189, 190, 491, etc and he just brushed it off as "yes, you can do that, but the chances are low". Not saying he's not wrong, I just didn't prefer the student route as it's incredibly expensive, but he could have helped me at least with alternative options. I'm outside Manila btw so fewer agencies here.

Promote ko lang yung rinamit ko. Respall, they highly discourage yung student visa route. in case yun talaga gusto ng person, they will not help out na. They do not process students visas. Kaya I highly recommend them. Regarding student visa, me personally ha, sa mga nakausap ko, student visa, DIY ka na lang. Same as most din, if nasa 36 pataas ka na, i do not suggest mag student visa yung tao. not unless, aral talaga habol niya.

I agree. No need for an agent to apply for a student visa. Save your money instead. And yes, if your intention is to move there permanently then a student visa isn’t the best option for your purpose.

Siguro itworked for some, yung student visa as a path way to PR. parang ang hirap lang kasi, grabe dinadaan ng mga yun. I guess it will all depend on anong buhay iniiwan mo sa pinas. The student path might not actually be a step forward if may edad ka na. it is really hard to put yur career on hold for 2 or more years. tas it will really be hard for your partner if meron, to get a good job with the visa restrictions and company limitations as well. Just my opinion 🙂
Mahirap yung decision kapag mid-career na kasi substantial na rin yung kailangan igive-up. I considered student visa rin dati kasi nasa CSOL lang occupation ko, kaunti lang states nagssponsor & madalang pa magsponsor. In the end, I decided to stay in my job & increase points through tenure while exhausting all possible ways to get a skilled visa. Almost 2 years din ako nag-antay makakuha ng ITA. Pero yun lang, nasa list kasi occupation ko. Kung wala sa list ang occupation ang tanong din is kung gusto pa ba magcareer change at this point?
speaking of carer change, one thing i noticed, ang dami kasi nag sasabi na ok lang mag carer change, mas malaki pa kikitain mo. i do not think this is true eh. ang suggestion ko nga, wag ka mag career change, mag step down ka, pero yung work mo dapat papunta towards sa kung ano position or job title mo sa pinas. one step backwards, two steps forward kung baga. wag ka na lumiko. if you get the same job and the same job title, sure mas ginhawa buhay mo dito.

Jacraye

@xiaolico said:

@maguero said:

@xiaolico said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@xiaolico said:

@brehbrehbreh said:
Just sharing my experience din, most agents I talked to are adamant at getting you a Student Visa instead of skilled migration because they earn through the school. I have yet to meet an agency that does not immediately push you to take the school route. That's what puts me off. I once asked this MARA certified guy about 189, 190, 491, etc and he just brushed it off as "yes, you can do that, but the chances are low". Not saying he's not wrong, I just didn't prefer the student route as it's incredibly expensive, but he could have helped me at least with alternative options. I'm outside Manila btw so fewer agencies here.

Promote ko lang yung rinamit ko. Respall, they highly discourage yung student visa route. in case yun talaga gusto ng person, they will not help out na. They do not process students visas. Kaya I highly recommend them. Regarding student visa, me personally ha, sa mga nakausap ko, student visa, DIY ka na lang. Same as most din, if nasa 36 pataas ka na, i do not suggest mag student visa yung tao. not unless, aral talaga habol niya.

I agree. No need for an agent to apply for a student visa. Save your money instead. And yes, if your intention is to move there permanently then a student visa isn’t the best option for your purpose.

Siguro itworked for some, yung student visa as a path way to PR. parang ang hirap lang kasi, grabe dinadaan ng mga yun. I guess it will all depend on anong buhay iniiwan mo sa pinas. The student path might not actually be a step forward if may edad ka na. it is really hard to put yur career on hold for 2 or more years. tas it will really be hard for your partner if meron, to get a good job with the visa restrictions and company limitations as well. Just my opinion 🙂

Mahirap yung decision kapag mid-career na kasi substantial na rin yung kailangan igive-up. I considered student visa rin dati kasi nasa CSOL lang occupation ko, kaunti lang states nagssponsor & madalang pa magsponsor. In the end, I decided to stay in my job & increase points through tenure while exhausting all possible ways to get a skilled visa. Almost 2 years din ako nag-antay makakuha ng ITA. Pero yun lang, nasa list kasi occupation ko. Kung wala sa list ang occupation ang tanong din is kung gusto pa ba magcareer change at this point?

speaking of carer change, one thing i noticed, ang dami kasi nag sasabi na ok lang mag carer change, mas malaki pa kikitain mo. i do not think this is true eh. ang suggestion ko nga, wag ka mag career change, mag step down ka, pero yung work mo dapat papunta towards sa kung ano position or job title mo sa pinas. one step backwards, two steps forward kung baga. wag ka na lumiko. if you get the same job and the same job title, sure mas ginhawa buhay mo dito.

agree ako dito. always get the job which has relevance to your experience. but then again, sometimes para sa iba it is not favourable.

for example, si engineer with 10yrs exp nag migrate sa Au and nag hanap ng work. unfortunately 3mos hindi sya makakuha ng job na related sa naging experience nya sa pinas. ang ginawa nya namasukan bilang mason sa isang builder. and during that time nag-try pa din sya maghanap ng work kaso sawi talaga sya. hanggang sa nakabisado na nya ang pag-mamason and eventually started his own business.

Meron din nurse, nagstart ng student, natapos ang bridging at nagka-license pero ang business ngayon is mag-install ng blinds and shutters. nakuha nya yung idea habang nagwwork sya as student.

Same as above, nurse din pero ang business ngayon pagpipintura.

Lahat ng kwento above, it is based from true stories. I've been here 4yrs pa lang pero napakarami ko na narinig na kwento of hardships, sacrifices, failures and success. Depende talaga sa current situation kung ano magiging next move mo. kung hindi makahanap ng work na related sa professional experience, maybe it's time for a temporary career change if not permanent. Kapag nandito na sa Au there are a lot of scenarios that could happen kaya dito papasok ang diskarte.

ignorms

Balik ko lang sa topic: I would advise to get an agent. Less hassle at more peace of mind. Pero never be complacent kahit nag agent ka. Merong other visa opportunities kasi na pwedeng ma-miss ng agent mo, lalo na kung diverse yung skill set at experience mo.

maguero

0> @xiaolico said:

@maguero said:

@xiaolico said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@xiaolico said:

@brehbrehbreh said:
Just sharing my experience din, most agents I talked to are adamant at getting you a Student Visa instead of skilled migration because they earn through the school. I have yet to meet an agency that does not immediately push you to take the school route. That's what puts me off. I once asked this MARA certified guy about 189, 190, 491, etc and he just brushed it off as "yes, you can do that, but the chances are low". Not saying he's not wrong, I just didn't prefer the student route as it's incredibly expensive, but he could have helped me at least with alternative options. I'm outside Manila btw so fewer agencies here.

Promote ko lang yung rinamit ko. Respall, they highly discourage yung student visa route. in case yun talaga gusto ng person, they will not help out na. They do not process students visas. Kaya I highly recommend them. Regarding student visa, me personally ha, sa mga nakausap ko, student visa, DIY ka na lang. Same as most din, if nasa 36 pataas ka na, i do not suggest mag student visa yung tao. not unless, aral talaga habol niya.

I agree. No need for an agent to apply for a student visa. Save your money instead. And yes, if your intention is to move there permanently then a student visa isn’t the best option for your purpose.

Siguro itworked for some, yung student visa as a path way to PR. parang ang hirap lang kasi, grabe dinadaan ng mga yun. I guess it will all depend on anong buhay iniiwan mo sa pinas. The student path might not actually be a step forward if may edad ka na. it is really hard to put yur career on hold for 2 or more years. tas it will really be hard for your partner if meron, to get a good job with the visa restrictions and company limitations as well. Just my opinion 🙂

Mahirap yung decision kapag mid-career na kasi substantial na rin yung kailangan igive-up. I considered student visa rin dati kasi nasa CSOL lang occupation ko, kaunti lang states nagssponsor & madalang pa magsponsor. In the end, I decided to stay in my job & increase points through tenure while exhausting all possible ways to get a skilled visa. Almost 2 years din ako nag-antay makakuha ng ITA. Pero yun lang, nasa list kasi occupation ko. Kung wala sa list ang occupation ang tanong din is kung gusto pa ba magcareer change at this point?

speaking of carer change, one thing i noticed, ang dami kasi nag sasabi na ok lang mag carer change, mas malaki pa kikitain mo. i do not think this is true eh. ang suggestion ko nga, wag ka mag career change, mag step down ka, pero yung work mo dapat papunta towards sa kung ano position or job title mo sa pinas. one step backwards, two steps forward kung baga. wag ka na lumiko. if you get the same job and the same job title, sure mas ginhawa buhay mo dito.

Agree ako dito, pero dahil lang sa personal experience ko na nakakuha ako ng job na aligned sa work experience ko and nacompare ko yung offer dun sa offer ng job na inapplyan ko na hindi related. Mas maganda talaga yung offer dun sa related job.

Pero back to topic. Kung balak mag-DIY kailangan matyaga magresearch, alerto sa changes, and wag ililimit ang sarili sa iisang visa type or sa iisang state. Subukan kung saan may opportunity to get invited.

xiaolico

@Jacraye said:

@xiaolico said:

@maguero said:

@xiaolico said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@xiaolico said:

@brehbrehbreh said:
Just sharing my experience din, most agents I talked to are adamant at getting you a Student Visa instead of skilled migration because they earn through the school. I have yet to meet an agency that does not immediately push you to take the school route. That's what puts me off. I once asked this MARA certified guy about 189, 190, 491, etc and he just brushed it off as "yes, you can do that, but the chances are low". Not saying he's not wrong, I just didn't prefer the student route as it's incredibly expensive, but he could have helped me at least with alternative options. I'm outside Manila btw so fewer agencies here.

Promote ko lang yung rinamit ko. Respall, they highly discourage yung student visa route. in case yun talaga gusto ng person, they will not help out na. They do not process students visas. Kaya I highly recommend them. Regarding student visa, me personally ha, sa mga nakausap ko, student visa, DIY ka na lang. Same as most din, if nasa 36 pataas ka na, i do not suggest mag student visa yung tao. not unless, aral talaga habol niya.

I agree. No need for an agent to apply for a student visa. Save your money instead. And yes, if your intention is to move there permanently then a student visa isn’t the best option for your purpose.

Siguro itworked for some, yung student visa as a path way to PR. parang ang hirap lang kasi, grabe dinadaan ng mga yun. I guess it will all depend on anong buhay iniiwan mo sa pinas. The student path might not actually be a step forward if may edad ka na. it is really hard to put yur career on hold for 2 or more years. tas it will really be hard for your partner if meron, to get a good job with the visa restrictions and company limitations as well. Just my opinion 🙂

Mahirap yung decision kapag mid-career na kasi substantial na rin yung kailangan igive-up. I considered student visa rin dati kasi nasa CSOL lang occupation ko, kaunti lang states nagssponsor & madalang pa magsponsor. In the end, I decided to stay in my job & increase points through tenure while exhausting all possible ways to get a skilled visa. Almost 2 years din ako nag-antay makakuha ng ITA. Pero yun lang, nasa list kasi occupation ko. Kung wala sa list ang occupation ang tanong din is kung gusto pa ba magcareer change at this point?

speaking of carer change, one thing i noticed, ang dami kasi nag sasabi na ok lang mag carer change, mas malaki pa kikitain mo. i do not think this is true eh. ang suggestion ko nga, wag ka mag career change, mag step down ka, pero yung work mo dapat papunta towards sa kung ano position or job title mo sa pinas. one step backwards, two steps forward kung baga. wag ka na lumiko. if you get the same job and the same job title, sure mas ginhawa buhay mo dito.
agree ako dito. always get the job which has relevance to your experience. but then again, sometimes para sa iba it is not favourable.
for example, si engineer with 10yrs exp nag migrate sa Au and nag hanap ng work. unfortunately 3mos hindi sya makakuha ng job na related sa naging experience nya sa pinas. ang ginawa nya namasukan bilang mason sa isang builder. and during that time nag-try pa din sya maghanap ng work kaso sawi talaga sya. hanggang sa nakabisado na nya ang pag-mamason and eventually started his own business.
Meron din nurse, nagstart ng student, natapos ang bridging at nagka-license pero ang business ngayon is mag-install ng blinds and shutters. nakuha nya yung idea habang nagwwork sya as student.
Same as above, nurse din pero ang business ngayon pagpipintura.
Lahat ng kwento above, it is based from true stories. I've been here 4yrs pa lang pero napakarami ko na narinig na kwento of hardships, sacrifices, failures and success. Depende talaga sa current situation kung ano magiging next move mo. kung hindi makahanap ng work na related sa professional experience, maybe it's time for a temporary career change if not permanent. Kapag nandito na sa Au there are a lot of scenarios that could happen kaya dito papasok ang diskarte.

Agree naman dito, parati naman may exception to the rule. well i guess ako based on my personal experience, i tried to reinvent myself, nahirapan ako mag hanap ng job. nung naka hanap ako, pay wasnt what i expected. nag tiwala ako sa resume ko and experience ko. I got a job an inline to what i have been doing ever since. I am happier now. Parati naman may exception sa rule. Parati naman may success story at the same time parati naman may unsuccessful story. I am basing my opinion on my experience and no one else.

Pero yeah, back to the topic. If you can afford it, mag agent ka. If you cannot afford it, find a way to get that money and mag agent ka. Tiwala ka sa professional.

Captain_A

back to the topic,

if hndi ka maswerte sa budget, not complicated case, daanin sa tyaga at research, so you can DIY.

if hndi complicated ang case mo, almost all answers are here, but you need to be really determined.

xiaolico

walang magawa sa office, sagot lang ulit ako dito 🙂. to keep it simple, DIY, oras ang investment mo. Agent, basically pera. So it depends sa yo. Ako agent ako para i could still have time with my family and work. in case hindi maka lusot, hindi nag suffer work ko. physically and emotionally, ang hirap ng application process. nag agent ako, napagod pa din ako physically and emotionally. what more if nag DIY ako. mas ok talaga na may tutulong sa yo. at the same time, since bayad yung tao na yun, wala ka din naman utang na loob sa kanya. it is always better to get help from a professional. sa mga nag DIY, bilib ako sa inyong lahat. you might say it is easy, pero bilib ako sa inyo. lalo na yung mga nag apply the last 2yrs.

Captain_A

sa DIY, in 1 day, hindi ka naman mag spent ng significant time researching (given na hindi complicated ang case). in my experience, i was able to read on my free time in SG. if determinado at walang budget, makakahanap ka paraan hehehe

diy or with agent, ikaw rin nmn ang gagawa/kukuha ng requirements ng skills assessment mo, example sa EA skills assessment, ikaw naman ang magsusulat ng CDR mo at i think rereview lng ng agent.. ikaw rin naman ang magrereview ng ielts or PTE exam mo, ikaw mag assikaso ng pagkuha ng documents mo like employment docs, passport, birth cert, nbi clearance (unless agent will do this for you) afaik, agent will just check if complete ang docs mo.

if naintindihan mo ang process, which is kaya tlgang gawin, naitatawid mo itong proseso na to.

again, i only recommend this if limited budget ka at hindi complicated ang case mo.

xiaolico

for me kasi, like coe eh, may sample sila na format. eoi, sila na gumawa. documents na kailangan, sila may alam. from my ITA to grant, one month lang ako. i don't think kaya ko yun ng DIY. plus eto sa circle ko lang ha, wala pa ko kilala na nag agent na na deny. marami pa ko kilala na nag DIY, wiating pa din sila. yung iba nag student kahit may path naman na direcho PR. i mean it is really up to you, pero ako, i don't regret getting and paying an agent. I do not think complicated yung case ko. ako nag pte, ako kumuha ng coe, itr, at pay slips. binigay ko sa kanila yun kasama passport and other documents then bahala na sila. nag apply ako TV for my parents, ang hirap ng documentation. nag apply ako citizenship at birth certificate para sa anak ko, ang hirap ng documentation. i could just imagine yung sa PR visa. yung kaba ng mga nag DIY if complete ba documents nila, tama ba documents na pinasa nila. tama ba pinili nila na choices sa IMMI. i guess to conclude, there are times when the end justifies the means. since sa circle ko, lahat ng tinanggap ng agent 100 percent success rate sa PR visa, i highly encourage to get an agent.

LovellaEllen

It's best to be neutral. Don't just strongly recommend getting an agent just because it worked for you and your friends. Let me state this clearly, having an agent doesn't increase your chances of getting an invite. Also, lahat ng mga so-called challenges of doing it yourself, it's not easy but certainly, it's doable. If kaya nila im sure kaya nyo din.. Plus lahat ng kailangan mo, nandito lang sa forum. All the documents/formats for EOI or sa assessment part na sabi mas ok if may agent kasi cla na bahala, lahat nyan makita mo lang online or dito sa forum. The most important thing is to increase your points and no one can help you with that other than yourself.

It all goes down sa situation mo. Do you have the time and focus to do your own research? then assess and re-access yourself, if ur sure na and kaya then do DIY. If you think hindi then get an agent/agency.

But fact is, getting an agent/agency is never better than DIY. They'r both the same in terms if your gonna be successful or not. It's more on the person if willing, kaya and if may time to do DIY.

xiaolico

It we look at the probability kasi, in terms of the success rate ha. I’m sure Mas mataas success rate ng agent. If budget is not an issue, let us say money is not a factor, would people still recommend DIY ba? I think Yung question Lang naman sa agent is if sulit or not. But better chances, higher success rate, it might not even be close.

xiaolico

Pati thread is an agent or diy, I think being neutral does not help. We can all disagree which is better. Pero para sa taong namimili kung mag agent or diy, all of our opinions will help that person. Being neutral does not help anyone. Anyway, last take ko na dito. If you are reading this, I assume one, your are decided na mag au. And two, may pang bayad ka ng agent. Kasi if wala, it’s not an agent or diy, it’s wag tumuloy or diy. This is my conclusion ha. My personal opinion alone. All arguments are debatable and refutable. One thing we can agree, numbers are irrefutable. So I suggest, read around this forum. Check with your friends. Get the probability. Ilan Ang nag agent na pumasa. Let’s say makahanap ka ng Lima, apat sa Lima lumusot, 80percent yun. Then if makahanap ka 10 na diy, anim sa sampu lumusot, 60 percent yung. Dun mo compare Ang numbers and dun mo lang malalaman Ano yung better success rate. Good luck sa inyo. I really wish for the best sa lahat ng tao dito. Sana lahat ng sumusubok kumuha ng visa/citizenship makakuha.

LovellaEllen

I strongly disagree with everything you said hehe but its ok.. God Bless sa lahat! Wish you all the best!

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