457/482 TSS subsequent entrant - de facto

LovellaEllen

@EJs I don't see any ways to update her Health Dec or VISA. Maybe you need to call Home affairs and see if there's an easy way to update both Health Dec and the Immiaccount regarding marital status. Because in Immiaccount for the 482 VISA, you can only update change of add, change of email add, change of passport details and request to cancel temp resident visa.

For subsequent entrant process, My husband created his own immi account, applied for Health Dec/HAP ID there then subsequent entrant visa.

Just contact Home Affairs for the VISA/Health dec marital status update. Or hopefully may mag comment who experienced the same situation.

EJs

@LovellaEllen said:
@EJs I don't see any ways to update her Health Dec or VISA. Maybe you need to call Home affairs and see if there's an easy way to update both Health Dec and the Immiaccount regarding marital status. Because in Immiaccount for the 482 VISA, you can only update change of add, change of email add, change of passport details and request to cancel temp resident visa.

For subsequent entrant process, My husband created his own immi account, applied for Health Dec/HAP ID there then subsequent entrant visa.
Just contact Home Affairs for the VISA/Health dec marital status update. Or hopefully may mag comment who experienced the same situation.
Hi. Thank you! My wife called the Australian embassy here in the Philippines but the staff said they do not handle such cases so they advised us to email the immigration.manila@dfat.gov.au to inquire about update in marital status. We did but we only got a general response guiding us back to the DHA website. The website has info regarding change in personal details but not about changing status from Never Married to Married. We asked a visa agent about this and he said that I can apply for the subsequent entrant visa even though in my wife's approved visa she is not married. The visa agent said her relationship status will change over time. We will ask a colleague in Australia to call the DHA tomorrow to confirm this.

For the subsequent entrant process, when your husband did his Health Dec did he put you as the primary applicant?

Thanks!

LovellaEllen

@EJs That's great! Just make sure to submit proper documents (PSA marriage cert) when you apply subsequent.. I can't remember exactly but if there is a section in both health Dec and Subsequent entrant VISA application itself on who is the main VISA applicant, then yes.

ajgaps

hello po @cucci , ask ko lang po, my girlfriend will be applying for visa 482 and nominated na din po sya ng employer and for sponsorship din, then pumayag po for me as the secondary applicant, identity lang po ang hinihingi sakin such as birth cirt, passport, nbi, picture , national id and statutory declaration, yan lang po hinihingi ng immig agent nung company. sufficient na po kaya yun? baka po may alam kayo bout that thanks!

cucci

@ajgaps said:
hello po @cucci , ask ko lang po, my girlfriend will be applying for visa 482 and nominated na din po sya ng employer and for sponsorship din, then pumayag po for me as the secondary applicant, identity lang po ang hinihingi sakin such as birth cirt, passport, nbi, picture , national id and statutory declaration, yan lang po hinihingi ng immig agent nung company. sufficient na po kaya yun? baka po may alam kayo bout that thanks!

Basically, yes... pero if di pa kayo married be sure to gather as much documents to prove that you are in a de facto relationship.

http://www.familycourt.gov.au/wps/wcm/connect/fcoaweb/family-law-matters/separation-and-divorce/defacto-relationships/

A de facto relationship is defined in Section 4AA of the Family Law Act 1975 . The law requires that you and your former partner, who may be of the same or opposite sex, had a relationship as a couple living together on a genuine domestic basis. However, your relationship is not a de facto relationship if you were legally married to one another or if you are related by family.

https://guides.dss.gov.au/guide-social-security-law/2/2/5/10

The 5 factors to be considered in establishing whether a de facto relationship exists are:

financial aspects of the relationship,
nature of the household,
social aspects of the relationship,
presence or absence of a sexual relationship, and
nature of the commitment.

You can submit bank accounts or properties under both your names, bills showing you both live in the same address, Statutory Declaration/Affidavit from one or two family members or friends, StatDec/Affidavit signed by both of you regarding the nature of the relationship, pictures of social events you attended together, social media messages, plane tickets with both your names of holidays and travels you took...

It is important to prove that it is a relationship as a couple living together on a genuine domestic basis.

ajgaps

@cucci said:

@ajgaps said:
hello po @cucci , ask ko lang po, my girlfriend will be applying for visa 482 and nominated na din po sya ng employer and for sponsorship din, then pumayag po for me as the secondary applicant, identity lang po ang hinihingi sakin such as birth cirt, passport, nbi, picture , national id and statutory declaration, yan lang po hinihingi ng immig agent nung company. sufficient na po kaya yun? baka po may alam kayo bout that thanks!
Basically, yes... pero if di pa kayo married be sure to gather as much documents to prove that you are in a de facto relationship.
http://www.familycourt.gov.au/wps/wcm/connect/fcoaweb/family-law-matters/separation-and-divorce/defacto-relationships/
A de facto relationship is defined in Section 4AA of the Family Law Act 1975 . The law requires that you and your former partner, who may be of the same or opposite sex, had a relationship as a couple living together on a genuine domestic basis. However, your relationship is not a de facto relationship if you were legally married to one another or if you are related by family.
https://guides.dss.gov.au/guide-social-security-law/2/2/5/10
The 5 factors to be considered in establishing whether a de facto relationship exists are:

financial aspects of the relationship,

nature of the household,

social aspects of the relationship,

presence or absence of a sexual relationship, and

nature of the commitment.
You can submit bank accounts or properties under both your names, bills showing you both live in the same address, Statutory Declaration/Affidavit from one or two family members or friends, StatDec/Affidavit signed by both of you regarding the nature of the relationship, pictures of social events you attended together, social media messages, plane tickets with both your names of holidays and travels you took...
It is important to prove that it is a relationship as a couple living together on a genuine domestic basis.

thank you very much po!

gabri

Hi, Sir EJ!

I am in the same situation at the moment - I am about to sign a job contract in Australia and I am still not married. My boyfriend and I are also thinking about getting married pero mukhang mauuna yung visa ko before yung kasal namin. My employer already agreed to nominate him if ever we do get married.

Tama po ba pagkakagets ko, since the visa of your wife was already granted before you got married, what you did was you created another immi acct and applied for the subsequent entrant visa? Kamusta po yung naging result and how long did it take before your visa was granted? Thank you so much!

@EJs said:

@LovellaEllen said:
@EJs I don't see any ways to update her Health Dec or VISA. Maybe you need to call Home affairs and see if there's an easy way to update both Health Dec and the Immiaccount regarding marital status. Because in Immiaccount for the 482 VISA, you can only update change of add, change of email add, change of passport details and request to cancel temp resident visa.

For subsequent entrant process, My husband created his own immi account, applied for Health Dec/HAP ID there then subsequent entrant visa.

Just contact Home Affairs for the VISA/Health dec marital status update. Or hopefully may mag comment who experienced the same situation.

Hi. Thank you! My wife called the Australian embassy here in the Philippines but the staff said they do not handle such cases so they advised us to email the immigration.manila@dfat.gov.au to inquire about update in marital status. We did but we only got a general response guiding us back to the DHA website. The website has info regarding change in personal details but not about changing status from Never Married to Married. We asked a visa agent about this and he said that I can apply for the subsequent entrant visa even though in my wife's approved visa she is not married. The visa agent said her relationship status will change over time. We will ask a colleague in Australia to call the DHA tomorrow to confirm this.
For the subsequent entrant process, when your husband did his Health Dec did he put you as the primary applicant?
Thanks!

ajgaps

@cucci ask lang po, na grant na kasi yung visa 482 namin ng girlfriend ko, me as secondary applicant ano ano po ang kailangan ko gawin dito sa pinas? mag pdos din po ba ako pati mag pa apostille ng files?

nikohlainofinada

@ajgaps said:
@cucci ask lang po, na grant na kasi yung visa 482 namin ng girlfriend ko, me as secondary applicant ano ano po ang kailangan ko gawin dito sa pinas? mag pdos din po ba ako pati mag pa apostille ng files?

Hello po! Itatanong ko lang po sana kung anu ano pong mga documents ang sinubmit niyo to apply for the subsequent visa? Pumayag din po kasi yung company to nominate my boyfriend. Thank you

ajgaps

@nikohlainofinada said:

@ajgaps said:
@cucci ask lang po, na grant na kasi yung visa 482 namin ng girlfriend ko, me as secondary applicant ano ano po ang kailangan ko gawin dito sa pinas? mag pdos din po ba ako pati mag pa apostille ng files?
Hello po! Itatanong ko lang po sana kung anu ano pong mga documents ang sinubmit niyo to apply for the subsequent visa? Pumayag din po kasi yung company to nominate my boyfriend. Thank you

hello, our agent asked for the FF. documents:

statutory declarations (you and your partner)(2 witnesses) for our case both moms namin
Relationship evidence - statutory declarations, witness statements,photos, joint travel etc, transfer of money to one another
identity such as:

passport

nbi

birth cert

National ID( if applicable)

picture for aus visa size

Joint Rental Agreement(Key document to para sa kanila, because you need to be living together pero wlang sinabi na timeline kung ilang buwan o taon kayo basta idaan lahat sa legal like notary public) need to for defacto relationship.

ajgaps

@nikohlainofinada

rozzycaj15

SIr gaano po kabilis processing nung sainyo po?

rozzycaj15

@ajgaps said:

@nikohlainofinada
Sir gaano po kabilis processing po nung sainyo?

onyok

Ask ko lang po sana if meron po dito na defacto relationship of less than 12 mos, yung nag live in ng less than 12 mos. Na grant po ba kayo? Thank you po 😊

summerlovin

pashare naman po ng timeline ng approval ng subsequent entrant na applic ninyo. Kasal na po kami and ang husband ko is in Australia holding 457, planning to apply subsequent entrant pra sa akin po.

summerlovin

@mariz2214 said:
Hello po! Ask ko lang po kapag approved na po ang visa for 482 subclass subsequent entrant ano pa po kaya kailangan documents bukod sa visa bago umalis??

hello po ano po mga sinubmit mong docs s application mo saka pashare po ng timeline or kung gaano katagal processing po nung inyo. Thanks

summerlovin

@EJs said:

@LovellaEllen said:
@EJs I don't see any ways to update her Health Dec or VISA. Maybe you need to call Home affairs and see if there's an easy way to update both Health Dec and the Immiaccount regarding marital status. Because in Immiaccount for the 482 VISA, you can only update change of add, change of email add, change of passport details and request to cancel temp resident visa.

For subsequent entrant process, My husband created his own immi account, applied for Health Dec/HAP ID there then subsequent entrant visa.

Just contact Home Affairs for the VISA/Health dec marital status update. Or hopefully may mag comment who experienced the same situation.

Hi. Thank you! My wife called the Australian embassy here in the Philippines but the staff said they do not handle such cases so they advised us to email the immigration.manila@dfat.gov.au to inquire about update in marital status. We did but we only got a general response guiding us back to the DHA website. The website has info regarding change in personal details but not about changing status from Never Married to Married. We asked a visa agent about this and he said that I can apply for the subsequent entrant visa even though in my wife's approved visa she is not married. The visa agent said her relationship status will change over time. We will ask a colleague in Australia to call the DHA tomorrow to confirm this.
For the subsequent entrant process, when your husband did his Health Dec did he put you as the primary applicant?
Thanks!

hello po ano po mga sinubmit mong docs s application mo saka pashare po ng timeline or kung gaano katagal processing po nung inyo. Thanks

summerlovin

@EJs said:
Hi po! Hingi lang sana ng advice sa case namin ng wife ko. She applied for TSS 482 on December 2019, never married ang nilagay nya sa status. Naapprove ang visa nya on Jan. 6 and we had our civil wedding on Jan 10. Plan naming maisama ako as subsequent entrant pero hindi nya maupdate ang marital status sa visa. She will retain her maiden name kaya di naman kami magpapalit ng documents nya. Paano po ba magupdate ng marital status sa immiaccount? > @cucci said:

@EJs said:
Hi po! Hingi lang sana ng advice sa case namin ng wife ko. She applied for TSS 482 on December 2019, never married ang nilagay nya sa status. Naapprove ang visa nya on Jan. 6 and we had our civil wedding on Jan 10. Plan naming maisama ako as subsequent entrant pero hindi nya maupdate ang marital status sa visa(we assumed na need ito). She will retain her maiden name kaya di naman kami magpapalit ng documents nya. Paano po ba magupdate ng marital status sa immiaccount? Para madeclare na married na kami at maiadd nya ko sa application nya. Thanks!

Since the 482 visa allows for subsequent entrant for members of the family unit as long as the employer agrees to extend the sponsorship, first you will need to ask the employer/sponsor to extend the visa sponsorship to you. This can be done by the employer writing to the Department of Home Affairs regarding the matter.
If I am not mistaken, it usually takes 3 months before a marriage certificate can be issued by PSA... am not sure if there is an option to expedite.
Once you apply for the subsequent entrant visa, I think her status will also be updated automatically.

Thank you! Currently we already have a certified true copy from PSA of our marriage cert but the original PSA marriage cert will be released to us on february 24 as we had it expedited. Her employer has agreed to extend the sponsorship.
We are trying to prepare my documents now and we are having a hard time with the Health declaration option in Immiaccount. Since she has an approved visa already, she has completed her Health declaration last year and there is no option to update her details to include me in that application.
Should we make a new application for my Health declaration in my wife's immiaccount or should I make my own immiaccount?
Or do we submit the application for subsequent visa first and then make the health appointment?
Please guide me in the steps needed for subsequent visa application. Thank you.

hello po ano po mga sinubmit mong docs s application mo saka pashare po ng timeline or kung gaano katagal processing po nung inyo. Thanks

m3gjbl

Hello! I'm hoping someone can answer my question po 😊

I am a visa 482 dependent/secondary holder. Nasa AU na po ako now for a year and first time ko po uuwi sa PH for vacation ng 1 month. We are currently on a BVB awaiting our next 482 result. Pag-alis ko po ba ng PH, same pa rin na ang kailangan ko lang are the passport & visa grant? Dapat po ba nag-register ako with POEA or kumuha ako ng OEC?

Thank you to whoever can help! I've been trying to look for any straightforward info online but can't find anything!

Airene_Marie

@cucci said:
Walang published times ang processing the subsequent entrant but usually at about 3 weeks to one month may result na. For TSS (482) subsequent entrants ang mga requirements ay:

partner and/or dependents ay naisama sa nomination form or may written consent galing sa employer na pumapayag na idagdag sa nomination

proof of relationship

passport

Hi, I'm sorry to interrupt on this thread, but I have a different case... This is kinda complicated, I hope you can advise me please 🙁

this is my situation... I have a 22 yr old daughter (born June 2000, surname under my maiden name) then I have an 11 yr old son ( born 2010 who's surname is taken from his father).

I am now married for 9 years ( sept 7, 2013). we have son who is now turning 6 years old.( 2016).

My now husband, acknowledge my daughter and declared as his own and file for change of surname due to subsequent marriage last 2014. ( we didn't file for adoption since its a longer process pa and mas easier yung acknowledge since naka maiden name ko ang birthcertificate nya)

so now, i have 2 kids under my husbands surname ( 1st and 3rd child)

My question is, My husband is in the process of Visa 186 DE sponsorship , and we are dependents, will our situation concerning my children affect our application? will they question why my eldest and youngest have the same surname? will they asked what happen if we just married 2013 and my daughter was born 2000? what proof are they going to ask just in case?

I'm so paranoid already : ( because they might ask proof of relationship since he acknowledge my daughter.

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