491 application questions

LovellaEllen

Hi po! Please help me clarify kasi naguguluhan ako.. Sa lodgement na part ng 491 VISA.. sa given names at surname, dapat ko bang ilagay yung middle name? Like for example, John James R. Yee, R is Rosales (surname ng mother ko).. So dapat ba ganito?

Given names: John James Rosales

Surname: Yee

Just a background din, prior to my 491 VISA, gayan (Given names: John James Rosales) kasi ginamit ko nung tourist and 482 VISA ko.

rellim115

@LovellaEllen said:
Hi po! Please help me clarify kasi naguguluhan ako.. Sa lodgement na part ng 491 VISA.. sa given names at surname, dapat ko bang ilagay yung middle name? Like for example, John James R. Yee, R is Rosales (surname ng mother ko).. So dapat ba ganito?
Given names: John James Rosales
Surname: Yee
Just a background din, prior to my 491 VISA, gayan (Given names: John James Rosales) kasi ginamit ko nung tourist and 482 VISA ko.

hi, @LovellaEllen. I can see that your post has received a number of views already. Perhaps people are reluctant to reply as either they have not experienced this, or are cautious in sharing information, which is understandable.

I am replying to this query kasi yan nangyari sa akin when I lodged my 491 visa on June 3, 2020. I had a tourist visa before and just like you, pati middle name isinali ko. For some reason, nung naglodged ako ng 491, ung last at first names ko lang inilagay ko. My argument is pretty simple: middle name can't be 'given' as it is 'inherited'. Given name, as the name suggests, is given to you and this is unique lalo at nakaattach ito sa passport number ng individual.

I am calling DHA tomorrow to ask what needs to be done moving forward. I reckon wala namang kaso, pero mas ok na makasigurado at baka maharang pa tayo sa airport hahaha. Initial assessment pa lang naman ang status ng sa akin, so I probably can just update the information.

May cases na wala namang naging problema kahit walang middle name (com/visas-immigration/287929-forgot-my-middle-name-3.html).

fgs

@rellim115 said:

@LovellaEllen said:
Hi po! Please help me clarify kasi naguguluhan ako.. Sa lodgement na part ng 491 VISA.. sa given names at surname, dapat ko bang ilagay yung middle name? Like for example, John James R. Yee, R is Rosales (surname ng mother ko).. So dapat ba ganito?
Given names: John James Rosales
Surname: Yee
Just a background din, prior to my 491 VISA, gayan (Given names: John James Rosales) kasi ginamit ko nung tourist and 482 VISA ko.
hi, @LovellaEllen. I can see that your post has received a number of views already. Perhaps people are reluctant to reply as either they have not experienced this, or are cautious in sharing information, which is understandable.
I am replying to this query kasi yan nangyari sa akin when I lodged my 491 visa on June 3, 2020. I had a tourist visa before and just like you, pati middle name isinali ko. For some reason, nung naglodged ako ng 491, ung last at first names ko lang inilagay ko. My argument is pretty simple: middle name can't be 'given' as it is 'inherited'. Given name, as the name suggests, is given to you and this is unique lalo at nakaattach ito sa passport number ng individual.
I am calling DHA tomorrow to ask what needs to be done moving forward. I reckon wala namang kaso, pero mas ok na makasigurado at baka maharang pa tayo sa airport hahaha. Initial assessment pa lang naman ang status ng sa akin, so I probably can just update the information.
May cases na wala namang naging problema kahit walang middle name (com/visas-immigration/287929-forgot-my-middle-name-3.html).

Middle name is not common in Australia..for us you can include it in your given name (... ie Juan MiddleName) just like what I did then your last name. ..if you dont like to include amd decided to include on your citizenship application, theres wouldnt be a problem.

rellim115

@fgs said:

@rellim115 said:

@LovellaEllen said:
Hi po! Please help me clarify kasi naguguluhan ako.. Sa lodgement na part ng 491 VISA.. sa given names at surname, dapat ko bang ilagay yung middle name? Like for example, John James R. Yee, R is Rosales (surname ng mother ko).. So dapat ba ganito?
Given names: John James Rosales
Surname: Yee
Just a background din, prior to my 491 VISA, gayan (Given names: John James Rosales) kasi ginamit ko nung tourist and 482 VISA ko.

hi, @LovellaEllen. I can see that your post has received a number of views already. Perhaps people are reluctant to reply as either they have not experienced this, or are cautious in sharing information, which is understandable.

I am replying to this query kasi yan nangyari sa akin when I lodged my 491 visa on June 3, 2020. I had a tourist visa before and just like you, pati middle name isinali ko. For some reason, nung naglodged ako ng 491, ung last at first names ko lang inilagay ko. My argument is pretty simple: middle name can't be 'given' as it is 'inherited'. Given name, as the name suggests, is given to you and this is unique lalo at nakaattach ito sa passport number ng individual.

I am calling DHA tomorrow to ask what needs to be done moving forward. I reckon wala namang kaso, pero mas ok na makasigurado at baka maharang pa tayo sa airport hahaha. Initial assessment pa lang naman ang status ng sa akin, so I probably can just update the information.

May cases na wala namang naging problema kahit walang middle name (com/visas-immigration/287929-forgot-my-middle-name-3.html).
Middle name is not common in Australia..for us you can include it in your given name (... ie Juan MiddleName) just like what I did then your last name. ..if you dont like to include amd decided to include on your citizenship application, theres wouldnt be a problem.

Thank you, @fgs, for your message. So, wala pong issue kahit may middle name or wala?:-)

fgs

@rellim115 said:

@fgs said:

@rellim115 said:

@LovellaEllen said:
Hi po! Please help me clarify kasi naguguluhan ako.. Sa lodgement na part ng 491 VISA.. sa given names at surname, dapat ko bang ilagay yung middle name? Like for example, John James R. Yee, R is Rosales (surname ng mother ko).. So dapat ba ganito?
Given names: John James Rosales
Surname: Yee
Just a background din, prior to my 491 VISA, gayan (Given names: John James Rosales) kasi ginamit ko nung tourist and 482 VISA ko.

hi, @LovellaEllen. I can see that your post has received a number of views already. Perhaps people are reluctant to reply as either they have not experienced this, or are cautious in sharing information, which is understandable.

I am replying to this query kasi yan nangyari sa akin when I lodged my 491 visa on June 3, 2020. I had a tourist visa before and just like you, pati middle name isinali ko. For some reason, nung naglodged ako ng 491, ung last at first names ko lang inilagay ko. My argument is pretty simple: middle name can't be 'given' as it is 'inherited'. Given name, as the name suggests, is given to you and this is unique lalo at nakaattach ito sa passport number ng individual.

I am calling DHA tomorrow to ask what needs to be done moving forward. I reckon wala namang kaso, pero mas ok na makasigurado at baka maharang pa tayo sa airport hahaha. Initial assessment pa lang naman ang status ng sa akin, so I probably can just update the information.

May cases na wala namang naging problema kahit walang middle name (com/visas-immigration/287929-forgot-my-middle-name-3.html).

Middle name is not common in Australia..for us you can include it in your given name (... ie Juan MiddleName) just like what I did then your last name. ..if you dont like to include amd decided to include on your citizenship application, theres wouldnt be a problem.
Thank you, @fgs, for your message. So, wala pong issue kahit may middle name or wala?:-)

In my case wala..kahit nakalimutan mo don sa earlier app mo, pwede mo baguhin sa other applications..makikita naman sa supporting docs mo...Australians with middle names are not standards like us na mothers maiden name..kahit ano lang gustuhin nila

rellim115

@fgs said:

@rellim115 said:

@fgs said:

@rellim115 said:

@LovellaEllen said:
Hi po! Please help me clarify kasi naguguluhan ako.. Sa lodgement na part ng 491 VISA.. sa given names at surname, dapat ko bang ilagay yung middle name? Like for example, John James R. Yee, R is Rosales (surname ng mother ko).. So dapat ba ganito?
Given names: John James Rosales
Surname: Yee
Just a background din, prior to my 491 VISA, gayan (Given names: John James Rosales) kasi ginamit ko nung tourist and 482 VISA ko.

hi, @LovellaEllen. I can see that your post has received a number of views already. Perhaps people are reluctant to reply as either they have not experienced this, or are cautious in sharing information, which is understandable.

I am replying to this query kasi yan nangyari sa akin when I lodged my 491 visa on June 3, 2020. I had a tourist visa before and just like you, pati middle name isinali ko. For some reason, nung naglodged ako ng 491, ung last at first names ko lang inilagay ko. My argument is pretty simple: middle name can't be 'given' as it is 'inherited'. Given name, as the name suggests, is given to you and this is unique lalo at nakaattach ito sa passport number ng individual.

I am calling DHA tomorrow to ask what needs to be done moving forward. I reckon wala namang kaso, pero mas ok na makasigurado at baka maharang pa tayo sa airport hahaha. Initial assessment pa lang naman ang status ng sa akin, so I probably can just update the information.

May cases na wala namang naging problema kahit walang middle name (com/visas-immigration/287929-forgot-my-middle-name-3.html).

Middle name is not common in Australia..for us you can include it in your given name (... ie Juan MiddleName) just like what I did then your last name. ..if you dont like to include amd decided to include on your citizenship application, theres wouldnt be a problem.

Thank you, @fgs, for your message. So, wala pong issue kahit may middle name or wala?:-)
In my case wala..kahit nakalimutan mo don sa earlier app mo, pwede mo baguhin sa other applications..makikita naman sa supporting docs mo...Australians with middle names are not standards like us na mothers maiden name..kahit ano lang gustuhin nila

Thank you so much for taking the time to share your experience/ideas. Tremendously appreciated po:-)

LovellaEllen

Salamat sa lahat! I think from now on, I'll just remove my middle name to avoid confusion/complications

LovellaEllen

@rellim115 pls update me as well incase nakatawag kana sa DHA, thanks! 🙂

rellim115

@LovellaEllen said:
@rellim115 pls update me as well incase nakatawag kana sa DHA, thanks! 🙂

@LovellaEllen, i'm currently based in Singapore. ung number sa dha website is for those who are in Europe, Americas, South Korea, and Japan. nag-email ako sa VFS Global, un ang directive nila. unfortunately, sarado pa ang office dito sa SG due to covid-19. auto-response nareceived ko. inaabangan ko ung re-opening, sana before the end of this month.

ung isang nakausap ko ang sabi sa VEVO (visa entitlement verification online) last name at first name din daw lang. so mukhang safe naman talaga. gusto ko rin simple kaya preferred ko ung first name lang, kasi un talaga tawag sa atin.

Ikaw po ba maglalodge ng 491? Sa timeline mo, it seems granted ka na ng 190.

LovellaEllen

@rellim115 I'm actually seeking info for a friend (onshore) na mag-lolodge ng 491 this week who included his middle name since his tourist and 482 VISA.. Sa case ko naman (482, 190), I never Included my middle name tapos wala namang naging problema..

Anyways, I advised him NOT to include nlang yung middle name para iwas confusion.. Godbless sa application mo 🙂

rellim115

@LovellaEllen said:
@rellim115 I'm actually seeking info for a friend (onshore) na mag-lolodge ng 491 this week who included his middle name since his tourist and 482 VISA.. Sa case ko naman (482, 190), I never Included my middle name tapos wala namang naging problema..
Anyways, I advised him NOT to include nlang yung middle name para iwas confusion.. Godbless sa application mo 🙂

I see:-) All the best sa kanya. Antay lang kami sa biometrics kasi un na lang ang kulang. Medical namin bukas. God bless.

connex7287

Do I need to submit separate EOI to state's website apart from skill select EOI? Or only selected states? TIA. Stay safe.

fgs

@connex7287 said:
Do I need to submit separate EOI to state's website apart from skill select EOI? Or only selected states? TIA. Stay safe.

Which state you are applying to? Some states will look at EOIs submitted on skill select who to invite to apply for state sponsorship. Others like SA, you need to directly apply State Sponsorshipsa state without an invitation to apply foe sponsorship.

oz_monster

@connex7287 said:
Do I need to submit separate EOI to state's website apart from skill select EOI? Or only selected states? TIA. Stay safe.

Don't get confused. EOI is normally used to refer to EOI submitted to DHA.

For state sponsorship, you are required to submit a state sponsorship application to that particular state you were seeking sponsorship from. Once your SS is accepted, you will receive an invitation to lodge your visa (190/491) to DHA. Hope this helps.