@xiaolico said:
@era222 said:
@xiaolico said:
@RheaMARN1171933 said:
@era222 said:
Hi! Doing some research sa pag-manage ng PR status. I've read DHA's resources na about this, but seeking validation lang if tama pagkakaintindi ko: If Permanent Resident ka na sa Australia, your permanent residency does not expire naman, right? Either you proceed with citizenship so you can get an AU passport or you apply for RRVs to get in and out of the country.
But technically, the "permanent residency" part of the PR visa stays in place indefinitely, yung travel component lang ang nage-expire 5 years after grant, tama ba?
The visa has 5 years validity, so it expires….hence the reason why you need to apply for RRV if you want to stay further as PR. Note that not all will be eligible for RRV, depends on how long you’ve stayed there as PR. If you’re not eligible for RRV than you can’t be PR anymore.
Sorry, I honestly believe na you know more than I do. Pero can we clarify this "hence the reason why you need to apply for RRV if you want to stay further as PR.", medyo confusing eh. Does this mean na if after 5yrs na yung PR visa, you cannot stay as a PR na in AU? Is that what you meant, I don't think that is accurate. Apologies if I misunderstood what this meant.
This was also why I asked. I wanted to make sure na yung 5-year validity of the PR visa does not mean na after 5 years, your PR status goes null and you'd have to renew your PR status in Australia through an RRV. Ito ay assuming na you have stayed in Australia naman for a while. So, an RRV comes into the picture if gusto mo mag-travel abroad. It's more of a way to hold that PR status while you travel in and out, since wala ka pang Aus passport.
What I'm getting from the answers is that you don't need to "renew" the PR status but if you want to retain it while overseas, you need an RRV. Sorry, semantics level na 'to, hope I didn't confuse anyone.
"If you are already in Australia as a permanent resident, you do not need to apply for this visa if you do not wish to travel." - https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getting-a-visa/visa-listing/resident-return-visa-155-157#About
Hehe, kailangan may definition of terms ng "expired". Hopefully someone na may RRV mag reply dito. I can tell you based on my experience only. I understand, na sa 5yrs ng pr visa, I think 4yrs ka nandito or nakatira dito sa au before you can apply for a citizenship. That is not applicable for everyone naman. Like ako, I think beyond 5yrs na PR visa ko before ako naging eligible to apply for citizenship. So sa mga nag RRV, simple question is this. When you applied for a job, wala naman option sa status na RRV. Either citizen, pr or work visa. Basically chose PR, what proof did you send to show na PR kayo? Yung RRV ba or yung PR visa na beyond 5yrs. Ako kasi, I don't think the RRV actually replaces your PR visa na beyond 5yrs. I think yung RRV is only para you can enter AU. That's it. Like I mentioned, beyond 5yrs na PR visa ko when I applied for a citizenship. Before I applied for a citizenship, wala naman nawala sa akin. Medicare ko takbo. Centrelink ko still gives me subsidy for my child's day care. Nag apply ako and got approved ng mortgage submitting that PR visa that was beyond 5yrs. I bought my house again submitting that PR visa beyond 5yrs. Got job offers with that beyond 5yrs visa. Not to sure na tama memory ko ha, pero I think yun din sinubmit ko to get a licence and to prove na PR ako para maging citizen anak ko when he was born here. Based on my experience, again my experience alone ha. I didn't leave australia after nag 5yrs na PR ko. I did not feel that it expired. I do not think it expires and entry visa lang siya. If hindi ka naman lalabas ng AU, i don't see the point why you need to spend so much for a RRV. Mahal din yan ha
I agree with you.
Have not entered AU yet as a migrant, but based on my research, PR status/visa never expires. It's the travel component of the PR visa that does.
So, two ways to go from there to be able to travel without hassle/legally to and fro, is either you apply for RRV or citizenship. For whatever reason you are not eligible for citizenship, RRV is there for you to prove that you are a PR of AU and to have a facility to go back after an overseas trip, dahil nga expired na yung travel component ng PR visa mo.
Now, if there is not a need to travel, one can still stay legally in AU under the same PR visa granted more than 5yrs back with its travel component expired because the visa itself is still active as a PR.
EDIT: This is in the context that you stayed onshore for a significant amount of time that is enough for you to be eligible for an RRV. In other contexts/situation, marami pang eligibility/criteria yung RRV, but that's where it gets tricky and complicated as Rhea and the others pointed out.
To me, I resonate more with the citizenship end goal, sobrang hassle ng mga visa-related errands. I'd rather stay/travel lawfully and with the peace of mind in AU.
