Advice for Working Visa: 189 vs 190 vs 491

tigerlance

Kung pasok ang occupation mo dito https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia/skillselect/invitation-rounds

for 189 Skilled Independent and 491 Provisional Skilled Regional under Family Sponsored...

pero kung state sponsored ng 190 and 491...

depende kasi sa occupation eh. nasa kanya kanyang state website kung ano occupation

ang iniinvite nila sa 190 and 491 kasama ang minimum requirements

pag pasok ka sa occupation, may ceiling sila bawat occupation, example 5 na highest point sa particular occupation.

To be safe siguro, kailangan mo muna puntahan ang bawat website kung pasok ka sa occupation

and minimum requirements. Then prepare at least 95 points para competitive,Kasi marami

rin hindi nainvite sa buong mundo kaya grabe ang competition.

gyoza

@MLBS said:
I was invited for 491 back in Feb 2020, lodged in April and granted Oct 2020. Mabagal grant saken because it was the peak of COVID and inuuna nila nurses. In my personal case, I was glad that I lodged it back then at hindi ako choosy kasi I would never know na by April 2020, hindi na sila mag iinvite ng Electronics engineers until now. I lodged with a total of 95 pts back then, pero kahit ngayon ako maglodge with 105 pts, no chance na mainvite ako at all. Kung hindi ko tinake 491 I would be stuck in a student visa pa rin hanggang ngayon and extend lang ng extend. Glad na hindi ako choosy back then and immediately took what I could. Almost halfway na ako sa 3 yr regional stay requirement - ang bilis lang ng panahon. Tip now is take whatever you get.

Curious lng po ako, upon grant ng visa sa'yo, ano un naklagay sa letter na "first entry date before" nyo? a year after the date of grant? not sure exact> @jas28 said:

@gyoza said:

@Desert_Cowboy said:

@gyoza said:

@haringkingking said:

@gyoza said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@nahtzko said:
@hikari @RheaMARN1171933 thanks po for your inputs!

@gyoza It seems based sa inputs nila mas possible mas mabilis nga si 491. Looking at processing times din sa site, around 90% nga applications ni 189 can take 33 months, compared sa 12 months ni 491.

However, Ms. Rhea is right na things can change at any given time. Sa side ko, nasa start pa lang ako sa process so focus muna on skills assessment. But when the time comes na mag lodge ng EOI, possible mag 491 nga kami.

Good luck to us all!
That’s correct, likely a 491…it’s been that way even before pandemic but I wouldn’t still rule out other visas for now

Thank you! In terms of success rate ng temp. to PR transition, mataas ba chance? Kasi iniisip ko intead of waiting for 189 na ang tagal tagal, parang maigi nakatapak ka na sa Australia.. and doon ka na mgexplorepa ng ibang pathway to PR.
Super thank you for all your insights!

Go for it!!!! 🙂

Thank you! Fighting!

I'm in the same exact situation a few months ago. I am offshore and I lodged my EOI for 189,190 and 491 Family and State. I was also hoping and praying for 189. Unfortunately, I was invited for 491 Family Sponsored Visa last October 21, 2021.
Once invited, you will have maximum 60 days to lodged the visa while invitation round for 189 comes every 90 days. This is when I weighed my options. I asked myself if I can afford to let it pass and wait for the next rounds? What if I let it pass and never get an invite again? Could I live with the guilt and remorse for myself? But what If I get invited for 189 on the next round?
I thought about it hard. Then I remembered the frustations of hundreds of applicants in facebook
groups and forums. Some people are re-enrolling on a course just to prolong their student visa and people waiting for years for invites.
So I lodged our visa last Dec 8, 2021. Medicals on January 5, 2022. Direct Grant last February 15, 2022. BM on May.
They published the earliest processing time at 77 days. I got it in 69 days, and I'm offshore. My lucky number. 😆

So there goes mine, I hope this will help you decide or something. Weigh your options and assess your situation. Don't let go what you can't afford to lose. Remember that some would kill for what you have now.

By the way, I was invited again on the January 2022 rounds. Unfortunately, I already lodged our visa a month ago. Good thing, I was invited on the same old 491 FS again. So no hard feelings. 😊

Thank you for your insight. We were invited na for 491 (State sponsored) and we plan to push it na and not wait for 189..na wala din nmn guarantee. True ksi un mga PTEs, assessments are expiring na din this 4Q. so need na tlg ipush whichever comes first. tadhana na. Good luck to us!
Hello po, just want to ask ilan po ang points nyo nung mainvite kayo sa 491 (State sponsored) and which state po? Im planning to submit 491 EOI but im still checking if there’s any hope getting an invite this time. My husband and me are both IT professionals and i think 189/190 is not an option at the moment since pandemic and limited invites for this visa. Thank you po.

Hi! 105 points ako sa South Australia. Kung kaya nyo pa wait, at mataas score nyo wait nyo un April. But it wont hurt to also submit eoi for 491 na.

Aisforapple

Hello! For 491 medical, alin pong type yung kailangan po? Permanent, temporary or worker? Thanks po sa makakasagot! 🙏

tigerlance

@Aisforapple said:
Hello! For 491 medical, alin pong type yung kailangan po? Permanent, temporary or worker? Thanks po sa makakasagot! 🙏

https://covid19.homeaffairs.gov.au/regional-visa

I have, or previously held, a Skilled Regional (Provisional) visa (subclasses 489, 491 and 494)

These visas are temporary visas, with a possible pathway to permanent residence, for skilled workers who want to live and work in regional Australia.

These visas support regional communities and businesses to access skilled migrants to assist regional economies, and to encourage migrants and their families to settle in regional communities.

MLBS

@gyoza said:

@MLBS said:
I was invited for 491 back in Feb 2020, lodged in April and granted Oct 2020. Mabagal grant saken because it was the peak of COVID and inuuna nila nurses. In my personal case, I was glad that I lodged it back then at hindi ako choosy kasi I would never know na by April 2020, hindi na sila mag iinvite ng Electronics engineers until now. I lodged with a total of 95 pts back then, pero kahit ngayon ako maglodge with 105 pts, no chance na mainvite ako at all. Kung hindi ko tinake 491 I would be stuck in a student visa pa rin hanggang ngayon and extend lang ng extend. Glad na hindi ako choosy back then and immediately took what I could. Almost halfway na ako sa 3 yr regional stay requirement - ang bilis lang ng panahon. Tip now is take whatever you get.
Curious lng po ako, upon grant ng visa sa'yo, ano un naklagay sa letter na "first entry date before" nyo? a year after the date of grant? not sure exact> @jas28 said:

@gyoza said:

@Desert_Cowboy said:

@gyoza said:

@haringkingking said:

@gyoza said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@nahtzko said:
@hikari @RheaMARN1171933 thanks po for your inputs!

@gyoza It seems based sa inputs nila mas possible mas mabilis nga si 491. Looking at processing times din sa site, around 90% nga applications ni 189 can take 33 months, compared sa 12 months ni 491.

However, Ms. Rhea is right na things can change at any given time. Sa side ko, nasa start pa lang ako sa process so focus muna on skills assessment. But when the time comes na mag lodge ng EOI, possible mag 491 nga kami.

Good luck to us all!
That’s correct, likely a 491…it’s been that way even before pandemic but I wouldn’t still rule out other visas for now

Thank you! In terms of success rate ng temp. to PR transition, mataas ba chance? Kasi iniisip ko intead of waiting for 189 na ang tagal tagal, parang maigi nakatapak ka na sa Australia.. and doon ka na mgexplorepa ng ibang pathway to PR.
Super thank you for all your insights!

Go for it!!!! 🙂

Thank you! Fighting!

I'm in the same exact situation a few months ago. I am offshore and I lodged my EOI for 189,190 and 491 Family and State. I was also hoping and praying for 189. Unfortunately, I was invited for 491 Family Sponsored Visa last October 21, 2021.
Once invited, you will have maximum 60 days to lodged the visa while invitation round for 189 comes every 90 days. This is when I weighed my options. I asked myself if I can afford to let it pass and wait for the next rounds? What if I let it pass and never get an invite again? Could I live with the guilt and remorse for myself? But what If I get invited for 189 on the next round?
I thought about it hard. Then I remembered the frustations of hundreds of applicants in facebook
groups and forums. Some people are re-enrolling on a course just to prolong their student visa and people waiting for years for invites.
So I lodged our visa last Dec 8, 2021. Medicals on January 5, 2022. Direct Grant last February 15, 2022. BM on May.
They published the earliest processing time at 77 days. I got it in 69 days, and I'm offshore. My lucky number. 😆

So there goes mine, I hope this will help you decide or something. Weigh your options and assess your situation. Don't let go what you can't afford to lose. Remember that some would kill for what you have now.

By the way, I was invited again on the January 2022 rounds. Unfortunately, I already lodged our visa a month ago. Good thing, I was invited on the same old 491 FS again. So no hard feelings. 😊

Thank you for your insight. We were invited na for 491 (State sponsored) and we plan to push it na and not wait for 189..na wala din nmn guarantee. True ksi un mga PTEs, assessments are expiring na din this 4Q. so need na tlg ipush whichever comes first. tadhana na. Good luck to us!

Hello po, just want to ask ilan po ang points nyo nung mainvite kayo sa 491 (State sponsored) and which state po? Im planning to submit 491 EOI but im still checking if there’s any hope getting an invite this time. My husband and me are both IT professionals and i think 189/190 is not an option at the moment since pandemic and limited invites for this visa. Thank you po.
Hi! 105 points ako sa South Australia. Kung kaya nyo pa wait, at mataas score nyo wait nyo un April. But it wont hurt to also submit eoi for 491 na.

Hmm I'll check my grant letter, pero onshore na kasi ako dito since 2019 so di ako masyadong nagbasa ng date of entry, basta granted ok na hehe

megumi

@MLBS said:
I was invited for 491 back in Feb 2020, lodged in April and granted Oct 2020. Mabagal grant saken because it was the peak of COVID and inuuna nila nurses. In my personal case, I was glad that I lodged it back then at hindi ako choosy kasi I would never know na by April 2020, hindi na sila mag iinvite ng Electronics engineers until now. I lodged with a total of 95 pts back then, pero kahit ngayon ako maglodge with 105 pts, no chance na mainvite ako at all. Kung hindi ko tinake 491 I would be stuck in a student visa pa rin hanggang ngayon and extend lang ng extend. Glad na hindi ako choosy back then and immediately took what I could. Almost halfway na ako sa 3 yr regional stay requirement - ang bilis lang ng panahon. Tip now is take whatever you get.

Hello, may I asked anong nilagay nyo sa Tax Declaration Form nung nagwork na kayo sa AU? AU resident, Foreign resident or Holiday?

MLBS

@megumi said:

@MLBS said:
I was invited for 491 back in Feb 2020, lodged in April and granted Oct 2020. Mabagal grant saken because it was the peak of COVID and inuuna nila nurses. In my personal case, I was glad that I lodged it back then at hindi ako choosy kasi I would never know na by April 2020, hindi na sila mag iinvite ng Electronics engineers until now. I lodged with a total of 95 pts back then, pero kahit ngayon ako maglodge with 105 pts, no chance na mainvite ako at all. Kung hindi ko tinake 491 I would be stuck in a student visa pa rin hanggang ngayon and extend lang ng extend. Glad na hindi ako choosy back then and immediately took what I could. Almost halfway na ako sa 3 yr regional stay requirement - ang bilis lang ng panahon. Tip now is take whatever you get.
Hello, may I asked anong nilagay nyo sa Tax Declaration Form nung nagwork na kayo sa AU? AU resident, Foreign resident or Holiday?

Au resident

Unsullied_06

Hello po. Nagdraft na po ako ng EOI ko sa Skill Select. Ano po ba ilalagay sa test reference number? Sabi po sa google eh yung Registation ID (9 digits). Tama po ba yun? Patulong po salamat.

datch29

@Unsullied_06 said:
Hello po. Nagdraft na po ako ng EOI ko sa Skill Select. Ano po ba ilalagay sa test reference number? Sabi po sa google eh yung Registation ID (9 digits). Tama po ba yun? Patulong po salamat.

Ang pagkakatanda ko is yung registration ID, meron din ata question mark sa gilid nung pag fill upan mo ng number, pwede mo yung i press then makikita mo dun ano mga dapat mo ilagay.

Unsullied_06

@datch29 said:

@Unsullied_06 said:
Hello po. Nagdraft na po ako ng EOI ko sa Skill Select. Ano po ba ilalagay sa test reference number? Sabi po sa google eh yung Registation ID (9 digits). Tama po ba yun? Patulong po salamat.
Ang pagkakatanda ko is yung registration ID, meron din ata question mark sa gilid nung pag fill upan mo ng number, pwede mo yung i press then makikita mo dun ano mga dapat mo ilagay.

Salamat po @datch29.

ArkitekGanda

Hi question po. For visa 491sponsored by relative which is my uncle he is my mother first cousin. Pwede po b sya mag sponsor sa akin?

Unsullied_06

Hello good day po. Question lang po regarding Visa 491, since closed na yung March window para sa FY 2021-22, ang ginawa ko nakadraft lang muna yung EOI ko sa SkillSelect for 491. Tama po ba ko ng pagkakaintindi na required hintayin magbukas yung next submission window para sa ROI submission? Kasi iniisip ko walang sense kahit gumawa na 491 EOI ng wala ka naman corresponding ROI tama po ba yun? Lumabas na po kasi kahapon positive EA assessment ko kaya yung EOI for Visa 189 at 190 nasubmit ko na. Eh gusto ko na din po ayusin yung sa 491 sana since realistically speaking dun mas may chance mainvite nowadays. Patulong po sa may alam please. Salamat.

patl

Is it better to wait for 491/190 than go the student pathway? I currently have 85 points for SC 189 - software engineer. I'm thinking of taking the student path kaso ang mahal ng masters. I'm not sure kung maapprove ang student visa kahit may bachelors degree nako from a section 1 school.

Hi Ms Rhea, I hope to get your feedback regarding this one. Are you also assisting student visa for diploma courses?

RheaMARN1171933

@patl said:
Is it better to wait for 491/190 than go the student pathway? I currently have 85 points for SC 189 - software engineer. I'm thinking of taking the student path kaso ang mahal ng masters. I'm not sure kung maapprove ang student visa kahit may bachelors degree nako from a section 1 school.

Hi Ms Rhea, I hope to get your feedback regarding this one. Are you also assisting student visa for diploma courses?

Why do you want to do a student pathway?

hungrypally

Hi everyone. I just want to ask what is the difference in the process of visa 491 family sponsored vs state sponsored? I am targeting for Adelaide right now. Currently in their state sponsored, they require more than 8 yrs of experience for engineer and I currently have a little more than 5 yrs. Does this mean I'm not eligible for the family sponsorship as well?

Thanks everyone!

sarah14

Hi, okay lang po ba magsubmit ng EOI for 190 NSW kahit hindi pa po sila nagaaccept ng offshore candidates na Med lab scientist? Hindi po ba marerefuse lang ako at magkakarecord na narefuse? ☹️ Thank you po sa sasagot 🙏🏼

Zezima1234

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@patl said:
Is it better to wait for 491/190 than go the student pathway? I currently have 85 points for SC 189 - software engineer. I'm thinking of taking the student path kaso ang mahal ng masters. I'm not sure kung maapprove ang student visa kahit may bachelors degree nako from a section 1 school.

Hi Ms Rhea, I hope to get your feedback regarding this one. Are you also assisting student visa for diploma courses?
Why do you want to do a student pathway?

Hi Ms Rhea,

Similar situation sila ng friend ko. Some of the reasons tempting them na mag SV pathway is

1.) Being onshore opens up new state opportunities + employer sponsored nominations mostly kasi ng state nominations eh onshore ang preferred

)Time; 2-3 years na may action plan kesa waiting for things to normalize para daw umusad man lang

tapos sa pababa din points nila since tumatanda na.

3.) Points although yung cost vs points ratio is mahal pero low points dagdag tlga sa sobrang tough ng competition every point counts

Ano po cents niyo dito mam @RheaMARN1171933 ?

kozakura

Hello everyone! I got an invitation for visa 491 NSW (Offshore) last May 12. I have a question, do I need to submit po bank statements and other billing infos? Yung nasa document checklist kasi ang nakalagay Residency in Australia, so kapag off shore no need na po ba to include? Thank you!

clim

@kozakura said:
Hello everyone! I got an invitation for visa 491 NSW (Offshore) last May 12. I have a question, do I need to submit po bank statements and other billing infos? Yung nasa document checklist kasi ang nakalagay Residency in Australia, so kapag off shore no need na po ba to include? Thank you!
Hi po! I'm offshore and didn't send any bank statements/ billing info, just the other reqs that's not under Residency in Australia 🙂

kozakura

@clim Thank you! o🙂 By the way, what state and region ka po nag apply? 🙂

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