educational qualifications (points for bachelor degree and skills)

onesilvertwo

@sohc, wait, wait, on your previous post you meant VETASSESS assessment result not DIAC yung sinasabi mo dito, let me quote:

<blockquote rel="sohc">Update ko lang to, my wife had a skills assessment. Her grade just lack .01 to have a cum laude in PLM. PLM is under section 2, seeing her assessment it looks like hindi bachelors degree ang binigay. I also applied for VETASSESS pts advice they have given me AQV Advanced Diploma. I graduated in Letran College Manila with good grades. In short, to claim for bach. degree you need to have your school under Section 1. Hope this helps other people.</blockquote>

IF you are sharing your experience on how VETASSESS assessed the Degree to a AQF Advance Diploma even though an applicant is a Bachelor's Degree holder.

I browsed through VETASSESS ngayong umaga, hindi ba dahil ang pinakamataas na assessment na maibibigay sa Points Advice ay AQF Advance Diploma? Ala akong mabasa sa site na the result will determine whether the qualification an applicant is claiming will be assessed as equivalent Bachelor's Degree. Ang napansin ko lang na result ay, AQF Advanced Diploma or Trade qualification. or will they have assessment result with "AQF Bachelor Degree"?

Points Advice:

http://www.vetassess.com.au/migrate_to_australia/ts_points_advice.cfm

if you wish to nominate an occupation naman:

http://www.vetassess.com.au/migrate_to_australia/qa2_nominating_occupation.cfm

when nominating an occupation, ayan diyan, may equivalent na Australian Qualifications Framework (AQF) Bachelor degree, may grouping din sila. pero ang mga occupation na ina-assess nila ay ang mga sumusunod lamang:

http://www.vetassess.com.au/migrate_to_australia/qa2_nominating_occupation.cfm#ListOccAssessByVETASSESS

these may explain, na ang grouping ng ACS for ICT Professionals, ay enough to certify that an .applicant's qualification is equivalent to AQF Bachelor's Degree.

after the visa grant, will an applicant know the points they earned? @sohc, since malapit na din naman ang result ng application niyo, kung nakaindicate ang points na nakuha niyo, most likely, you can predict how many points did DIAC give for each criteria particularly sa employment at educational qualification.

Davidx23

@sohc

Letranista ka pala, coool. I'm from letran also, batch '99. Your sohc in tipidpc forum right?

LokiJr

@Davidx23, sorry tpc'er ka rin ba? 😛 Ako rin e hehe

The educational background is not a deal breaker when applying for visas. If your skill is in demand in Australia and if you have a solid work experience under your belt, then getting your application granted is still very possible even if your school is under sections 2 or 3 🙂

Davidx23

Ikaw rin LokiJr, cool.

Correct. I don't know if this has been brought up - you can apply for work and request for work visa sponsorship and you can combine the work visa application together with your immigrant visa. You get the benefit of expedite processing of work visa application plus wala ka pang tali at restriction sa work kasi immigrant visa ang i-aaprove sa yo.

heyits7me_mags

Eto naman po ang situation ng husband ko ACS result Group A PIM 3 pero 11yrs. and 2mos. yung assessed working experience nya-dito po klaro na we will be able to get 15pts. Pero based sa school sectioning section 2 lang sya. How can we claim 15pts. for Educational Qualification our options are to be able to have 65pts. in point system his OBS in IELTS should be 8.0 and he should approved a sponsorship. Medyo pressured yung IELTS band of 8.0 sa kanya, sa tingin ko.

I seek the opinion/advice of ACS by writing them thru general email regarding if my husband educational qualification is comparable with Australian Qualification Framework since his ACS result is in Group A, pero until now walang reply.

The way i see with ACS they don't refer with school sectioning in terms of their assessment parang basta ICT major ka at ICT employed ka automatic na Group A ka. It seems both DIAC and ACS do not have the same criteria in tems of how they will assess an applicant in Educational Qualification parang kanya kanya. :-(

tootzkie

Your case indeed englightened me on the issue of educational qualification. Prior to this, my friend emailed ACS (Australian Computer Society) if he could claim 15 pts since he is suitable for migration under GROUP A, (equivalent to Australian Qualification Framework) whilst his school falls on section 2. ACS replied that what they could surely grant is 10 pts only for those seeking for educational qualification points and it will be in the separate letter report. 15 pts for Educational Qualification is SOLELY AT THE DISCRETION OF DIAC.

For those who are in section 2 that claims for 15 pts. Kaya mo bang isugal ang 2,930 dollars ? if yes, then GO. Those who have lodged already please keep us posted. But make sure na eksaktong 65 pts kayo ha? baka naman 70 pts kayo kaya naglodge kayo ng 175 kahit nasa section 2 school kayo.

Kapag nakalusot kayo, then spread the news para matulungan nyo ang ibang applicants na tulad ng friend ko na talagang desperado na. Thanks.

heyits7me_mags

Thks!!! a lot tootzkie at least hindi man nasagot ng ACS yung letter ko which i think for a few months with them now maybe b'coz they need to open my husband's file again dahil nga tapos na yung assessment result parang nasagot na rin yung letter ko sa kanila. We cannot gamble such big amount of money and once DIAC had decided that your application was denied you can no longer apply to them, that's what i have read in booklet 6, i don't know if it was already amended or you can reapply pero its a waste of your hardly earned money, di ba?

To those who are on the same boat, please share us the news if you were granted a visa.

For us in safe way, my husband will try hard to get 8.0 OB in IELTS and apply for sponsorship...sana hindi kami kapusin sa panahon, we will try our best of luck. :-) :-)

heyits7me_mags

@tootzkie, GODBLESS!!! to your friend, when will you have your initial entry nga pala??

sohc

@Davidx23

yup Letranista ako pero malaki galit ko sa school natin batch 2004. nagturo din ako dyan ng I.T. Yup ako din yung sa tipidpc na sohc hehe.

@tootzkie

yup tama ka mahirap sumugal ng $2930 AUD. Nga pala pre <b>maraming salamat sayo</b>, sayo ko nakita ang post na kapag kulang ka sa 176 go for 475. Hindi ko alam ang 475 dati buti na lang nabasa ko ang post mo. Nagapply ako agad ng 475 kasi ngexpire 176 ko sa South Australia. Sobrang swerte kasi when I got my state sponsorship ngclose na position ko in 3 days. Kung hindi ko nabasa yun naipit na ko sa IELTS na yan. <b>Sa post mo na yun my dream is almost a week away.</b>

@all share ko lang ang points ko based on my own assessment:

Age 27 = 30pts

7 Years Exp = 10pts

State Sponsorship = 10pts

Qualifications = 10pts

Partner Skills = 5pts

Total = 65pts

Hindi ko sinugal ang bachelors degree, kahit na worth P33,000 skills assessment + P8,640 (IELTS) ang magastos ko sa partners skills ok lang. Ang galing ni misis!

tootzkie

<blockquote rel="heyits7me_mags">Thks!!! a lot tootzkie at least hindi man nasagot ng ACS yung letter ko which i think for a few months with them now maybe b'coz they need to open my husband's file again dahil nga tapos na yung assessment result parang nasagot na rin yung letter ko sa kanila. We cannot gamble such big amount of money and once DIAC had decided that your application was denied you can no longer apply to them, that's what i have read in booklet 6, i don't know if it was already amended or you can reapply pero its a waste of your hardly earned money, di ba?

To those who are on the same boat, please share us the news if you were granted a visa.

For us in safe way, my husband will try hard to get 8.0 OB in IELTS and apply for sponsorship...sana hindi kami kapusin sa panahon, we will try our best of luck. :-) :-)</blockquote>

whew! sobra naman, bakit 8.0 ang hahabulin mong IELTS? mag-475 visa ka na lang. Yan ang uso ngayon hehehe.

Di ko alam kung kelan ako aalis baka January or March. Sobrang in-demand daw ngayon ang ICT kahit saang states. 90% daw ng bagong dating na migrants ay nakakakuha ng work in just 2 weeks kapag ICT ang occupation. Sana makahabol kayo.

@sohc wow, medyo nakatulong pala ako ng kahit konti sau heheheh. Walang anuman bro, kaya may forum sharing of ideas. Nakita ko ang timeline mo, malapit ka nang magka-visa. Congratulations.

May job offer sakin last month sa Adelaide, at kpag hinintay nila ako, or kapag may confirmation na ang arrival ko at may job offer pa rin sa Hudson Agency in Adelaide, malamang dun ako, kitakits. Cheers.

heyits7me_mags

@tootzkie, I'll see what will be the result of my husband's IELTS pag 7.0 or 7.5 OBS apply namin ang 475 pero malaking himala pag nag 8.0 OBS sya, he he he :-). Hmmm...napapaisip ako ngayon about sa sinabi mo to change 176 to 475 why not diba, if there's another more easy way to have that visa than 176. Mas preferred ko ang Perth sana, magaang ang pakiramdam ko sa regional state na yun pero wala namang Analyst Programmer na nakahain, had checked 475 sa WA, Business Analyst lang at at Telco Engr. ang nasa list. Para kasing eto na naman ang Victoria dami nag aaply ng sponsorship pero dami namang nilaglag. Baka try namin ang SA sana abutan namin kasi most of ICT nominated job dun closed na-special conditions apply...sana abutan namin.

Alam ko may dapat ka pang ayusin dito sa 'pinas pero pano ang nag aantay dun... pa rin ba?

heyits7me_mags

@soch, Congratulations!!! dahil nakawala kana sa turning point, nagawan mo ng paraan leading the way to grant you a visa...lapit na konti na lang. Ask ko lang if we apply for 475 do we need a sponsorship, how they will know if my application is a 475 visa, any suggestions? thank you in advance!

@tootzkie, any add'l. input or where can i found your post about 475 application?

@admin, sorry i have used another extra space, forgetful na naman ako now.

unanimous21

@tootzkie, sa case mo, tinawagan ba ni DIAC ung mga companies na pinagtrabahuhan mo for confirmation? i am applying for 176. thanks

sohc

@heyits7me_mags

475 is a Regional Sponsored Visa. I suggest to check DIAC website for complete information. Here's the link

<a href="">http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/475/eligibility.htm</a>

Medical Finalized na wife ko last wednesday nauna pa result nya sakin though sabay naman kami ngpamedical. Medical ko na lang ang pending sa online application. Hope to have a good news this week 🙂

heyits7me_mags

Hi! sohc, Healthcare cost is at the expense of the visa applicant pala eto, Pati social security hindi ka covered except that job assistance to find employment after arrival lang ang pwede ng Oz ibigay. We will just think it over muna.

Antay antay ka na lang ng medical result one of this days kita mo na lang met na yan.

onesilvertwo

<blockquote rel="tootzkie"><blockquote rel="sohc">Update ko lang to, my wife had a skills assessment. Her grade just lack .01 to have a cum laude in PLM. PLM is under section 2, seeing her assessment it looks like hindi bachelors degree ang binigay. I also applied for VETASSESS pts advice they have given me AQV Advanced Diploma. I graduated in Letran College Manila with good grades. In short, to claim for bach. degree you need to have your school under Section 1. Hope this helps other people.</blockquote>

Kapag nakalusot kayo, then spread the news para matulungan nyo ang ibang applicants na tulad ng friend ko na talagang desperado na. Thanks.</blockquote>

@tootzkie, Thanks for the information re ACS. Anung letter advice daw ito? how do you call the document so that I can confirm with ACS. I called ACS this morning about qualifications/groupings/bachelor's degree, they said that they don't provide a separate letter aside from the Assessment Result Letter. I also asked if they issue "Points Advice" (thinking na yun yung letter that your friend mentioned) na katulad ng TRA at VETASSESS, and sabi nila ay hindi daw. Instead they directed me to DIAC.

Anyway, the school where I completed my Master's Degree belongs to Section 2. Though I still believe that school sectioning is not a major factor in determining the eligibility of the application.

tootzkie

@heyitsme_mag Nasa website ng DIAC ang info about visa 475 and pathways to permanent residency. Then about unique cases of people in self-employment and accumulated non-consecutive work experiences, odd jobs, part time jobs to permanent residency - you can find it at britishexpats.com.

@jaero yup sa online jobs ako nag-apply.

@onesilvertwo Mabilis ngayon ang processing. Sana in 3 months or in the first quarter of next year CO allocated ka na.

ABout ACS, i think the people who answered your call must have no idea of what PIM3 is all about, or might not have clearly grasped your query.

The document is called RECOGNITION LETTER:

Combined Skills Assessment / Recognition Letter

This is for applicants that hold 2 or more ICT educational qualifications and would like all their ICT educational qualifications reported and recognised.
- The applicant will receive a skills assessment result letter and an additional recognition letter reporting the ICT Educational Qualifications and ICT Skilled Employment experience suitability to the nominated occupation ANZSCO code for Points Test and skilled migration purposes.

AS per the reply of the email, they only award 10 pts for Recognition letter (equivalent to Educational Qualification)

About having your Master's Degree, it's very obvious naman that you will get 15 pts. Kahit nga MBA grad ka, credited yun kasi it has relevance on ICT. Well I still believe that school sectioning (CEP AEI-NOOSR ) provides the official information and advice on the comparability of overseas qualifications with Australian qualifications. It is created for a purpose not just a dummy.

Share ko sa inyo ang assessment ng friend ko:

Degree: BS Math (UP Diliman), MBA (PUP)

UP is section 1, PUP is section 2

ACS skills assessment: ICT Business Analyst - GROUP B

(Notice that although UP is section 1, but BS Math is just a minor of ICT course)

Recently, he was granted visa 176 - SA sponsored with having 15 pts for educational qualification and has a total of 65 pts.

Based on the above scenario, if UP Diliman is section 1 then why his skills assessment is not equivalent to AUSTRALIAN QUALIFICATION FRAMEWORK? It's bcoz, ACS has its own separate criteria of assessment. For ACS his educational qualification is 10 pts., but for DIAC, he was granted 15 pts, bcoz of his MBA degree OR UP Diliman is section 1.

Davidx23

^Mahigpit talaga sa ACS, kasi dito i-dedetermine ng case officer kung elegible ka sa SOL. Kailangan meron kang sufficient (& evidential) proof to prove na qualified ka sa profession mu. They don't rely much on your educational background but by your work experience plus international certifications (kung meron).

onesilvertwo

@tootzkie, oo nga mabilis na ang processing. Nawa positive ang response.

Atleast by discussing the topic, we get to come up with some information that may be useful for other applicants. I myself is not familiar with this document - "Recognition Letter", I didn't realise it during my ACS application that they issue this document, probably I was too focused on the "Skills Assessment Result Letter" since this document was reiterated in the DIAC website which is the main requirement for any employment and qualification claims.

Re CEP AEI-NOOSR, I will read more about this. What I believe lang naman ay once the assessing authority have issued an opinion, they have already used the criteria in determining the school whether it is comparable to AQF as stated on their manuals/application guides. However, the response to your friend who belongs to group A has raised concerns and questions on how assessing authority really follows the criteria.

Re the ACS query over the phone, yes, I think the representative wasn't able to fully understand the concern.

Anyway, I guess this thread will be updated with queries from time to time since qualifications is one of the main eligibility criteria for migration. Thanks for your inputs! 🙂

onesilvertwo

Hi @sohc,

Once your visa has been granted, please share us your DIAC assessment result. Before the end of November, I am sure you'll get it. Good luck!

Hi @tootzkie,

Thanks for sharing your friend's DIAC assessment result.

<blockquote rel="sohc">@Davidx23

yup Letranista ako pero malaki galit ko sa school natin batch 2004. nagturo din ako dyan ng I.T. Yup ako din yung sa tipidpc na sohc hehe.

@tootzkie

@all share ko lang ang points ko based on my own assessment:

Age 27 = 30pts

7 Years Exp = 10pts

State Sponsorship = 10pts

Qualifications = 10pts

Partner Skills = 5pts

Total = 65pts

Hindi ko sinugal ang bachelors degree, kahit na worth P33,000 skills assessment + P8,640 (IELTS) ang magastos ko sa partners skills ok lang. Ang galing ni misis!</blockquote>

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