Share some tips on IELTS

mharcute

@thegreatiam15 sa IDP Singapore po

Stidleyfied

@sonsi_03 @mharcute kakainis talaga yun. kaloka ang baba mgbigay ng score.

mharcute

@Stidleyfied Oo nga..kainis.

Di ako nag aral sa listening eh.Kasi unang try ko sa practice test, naka 40/40 na ko.

So mas nag focus ako sa Reading. Kasi sa practice test nasa 30/40 lang score ko.

Pero naka tulong yung masterclass sa Reading Tips.

Nagtaka nga lang ako bat sobrang baba ng speaking ko. me isang pause lang ako siguro mga 5-10 seconds yun kasi wala na akong maisip sa 1st question at medyo habol hininga pa ako. kasi bigla na lang ako sinabak eh 1hr early ako sa schedule ko. (me mga di kasi sumipot sa speaking eh). Sobra naman yung bawas na 2.5 para dun sa pause ko.

pero for questions 2 & 3, nakuha ko na momentum at I gave 3-4 sentences sa mga tanong nya.

Nakatulong din siguro yung panonood ko ng mga english movies at tigil muna sa Kdrama...hehehe...saka , pag nag practice pala ng listening, wag kau gagamit ng earphone. Try nyo speaker or yung speaker lang ng laptop. Nakatulong din kasi yung konting ingay kasi during exam me konting ingay ka ding maririnig eh. Para mas tumalas yung pandinig mo.

mharcute

@sonsi_03 Yup, pa remark muna ako this November.

Then, by Feb, kung di mabigay yung 0.5 ko, then resit.

Yung isang kakilala ko, based sa description nya, yung anaps din na yun sa speaking nya. she gave her 6.5 din. Nung nag pa remark, naging 7.5

Sa mga nabasa ko online, Pag local Test Center daw, usually they give a conservative grade.

Say your on the 6.5-7.0 bracket, they will give your 6.5 instead.

Siguro mas pangit nga naman na mas mataas pa mag bigay sa local test center, tapos bigyan ka ng 8.0 , then nag request ka pa ng pa remark, yun pala pang 7.0 lang yung band mo.

Although they got standards on marking, subjective pa din talaga ang writing at speaking. Unlike listening and Reading.

nice_guy

@mharcute In my understanding, hindi ang examiner ang nagbibigay ng score. Facilitator lang sya ng mga questions at recording. Meron talagang separate na 2 experts na nakikinig ng recordings, at sila ang nagbibigay ng score.

imeetr

@nice_guy yes your right, that is also my understanding, the one who will give the score is not the same person who facilitated the exam, because base on the my experience the examiner who handle my speaking test, keeps on encouraging me to talk more, to prevent a dead air during the recording. If he thinks that my answer is short, he will make hand gestures telling me to expound my answer.

thegreatiam15

@mharcute ahhh salamat nga pala anung writing question mo?marerecall mo ba hehe mapagpraktisan man lang

writing nalang weakness ko eh, although nagtetrain pa din ako sa sarili ko constantly bago yung exam ko ulet sa 13th of december

wizardofOz

Ah di ko alam yun ah.. akala ko kung sino yung examiner/facilitator during the Speaking exam mismo.. sya rin yung nag-sscore

nice_guy

@wizardofOz Hindi mo na naman kelangan malaman kasi ok na IELTS mo. hehe..

Actually yung last ko na IELTS e helpful yung examiner. At the point na parang kakapusin ako sa 2mins task, pinakita nya skin yung clock na nasa 1min 30sec pa lang, at ina urge nya ko na tuloy magsalita pa.

vhoythoy

<blockquote rel="nice_guy">@mharcute In my understanding, hindi ang examiner ang nagbibigay ng score. Facilitator lang sya ng mga questions at recording. Meron talagang separate na 2 experts na nakikinig ng recordings, at sila ang nagbibigay ng score. </blockquote>

This is correct. It will add more credibility to the scoring kesa ung examiner ang magbibigay ng score. baka magkasuhulan pa yan. Scoring is being performed independently and can be verified in case of disputes/ remarking kaya recorded. It also prevent bias scoring kasi nakikita mo ung kausap mo and baka yung scoring is may effect sa visual impression mo sa examinees. Kaya parang the voice philippines lang yan, boses lang ang may score hence the recorded conversations.

Examiner ko din before is very helpful sa speaking, making hand gestures to encourage me to keep speaking.

inyechi

Hi..san ba magandang magpa schedule ng exam. sa IDP o sa British council?

wizardofOz

<blockquote rel="vhoythoy"><blockquote rel="nice_guy">@mharcute In my understanding, hindi ang examiner ang nagbibigay ng score. Facilitator lang sya ng mga questions at recording. Meron talagang separate na 2 experts na nakikinig ng recordings, at sila ang nagbibigay ng score. </blockquote>

Examiner ko din before is very helpful sa speaking, making hand gestures to encourage me to keep speaking.</blockquote>

kaya pala nakatalikod yung chair nung examiner ko 😛

vhoythoy

<blockquote rel="wizardofOz"><blockquote rel="vhoythoy"><blockquote rel="nice_guy">@mharcute In my understanding, hindi ang examiner ang nagbibigay ng score. Facilitator lang sya ng mga questions at recording. Meron talagang separate na 2 experts na nakikinig ng recordings, at sila ang nagbibigay ng score. </blockquote>

Examiner ko din before is very helpful sa speaking, making hand gestures to encourage me to keep speaking.</blockquote>

kaya pala nakatalikod yung chair nung examiner ko 😛

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hehehe. But ofcourse it is advisable that you make some hand gestures and even smiles during the conversation because it will be reflected in your recorded speaking exam (your confidence and emotions). Tsaka walang dead air moments, kaya ako dati kung ano ano nlang sinasabi ko basta walang pause. Weird din kasi mga tanong nun.

bait0211

@Stidleyfied @sonsi_03 @mharcute: Sya din ba sa Speaking nyo? Sya din yung Speaking ko last June. 6.5 din score ko. 🙁 I'm planning to retake ngayong December. Sino magtake this December sa tin? Lots of luck..

mharcute

<blockquote rel="thegreatiam15">@mharcute ahhh salamat nga pala anung writing question mo?marerecall mo ba hehe mapagpraktisan man lang

writing nalang weakness ko eh, although nagtetrain pa din ako sa sarili ko constantly bago yung exam ko ulet sa 13th of december

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Task 1 : write a letter to an agent regarding house moving.

Task 2: is younger staff more productive than older staff? Do you agree or disagree.

-sagot ko dito, both. Dipende sa field. tapos nag bigay ako ng samples. Like sa gaming industry, more on younger generation yung pool of employees nila. Then sa older staff, mas suitable sila sa Consulting. Bihira naman tayong makikita ng consultant na age 21 and claim na they are a reliable consultant on that field. Syempre, they need the experience and know how...Basta elaborate mo lang then lagyan mo conclusion, kung agree ka or disagree. pwede mo isummarized yung sinabi mo sa sa first 2 paragraphs.

kalaban mo lang talaga yung oras sa writing. After the writing exam, nag cramps nga kamay ko kasi matagal na kong di nasulat ng ganun kahaba na essay. panay type lang sa computer.

Practice ka din pala sa speed ng writing mo. ako ginagawa ko, I try to copy pages of books.

tapos binibilang ko kung ilang words na nasulat ko..para maging familiar ka lang kung gaano kahaba ang 150 at 250 words.

Actually, reading yung medyo ni focus ko. then speed naman sa writing. You need to increase your vocabulary. So, reading is the best way to increase you vocabulary.

Medyo na drain na ako after ng written exam. Kaya di ako naka pag perform well sa speaking.

mharcute

Yung examiners po yung nag bibigay ng scores. The recording is not really for us, but to exaluate the examiners during the Test.

Yung 2 experts po na sinasabi nyo is if you are to go for remarking. Then, they will send the Tape and 2 experts will review the tape. At eto yung mismong sa IELTS main office na mismo at 1st language nila is English. Dito kasi sa Singapore, mixed yung pool ng Interviewers nila. Although me set of rules, the exam might still be subjective.

Please refer to the link below:

http://www.ielts.org/test_takers_information/question_types/question_types-speaking.aspx

Question types - Speaking

What’s in the IELTS Speaking test?

The Speaking test is a face-to-face interview between the candidate and an examiner. The Speaking test is recorded.

There are three parts to the test, and each part follows a specific pattern of tasks in order to test your speaking ability in different ways.

Marking

Certificated IELTS examiners assess your speaking performance throughout the test. There are four assessment criteria (things which the examiner thinks about when deciding what score to give you):

Fluency and coherence
Lexical resource
Grammatical range and accuracy
Pronunciation.

mharcute

Heres another article:

http://www.teachingenglish.org.uk/article/evaluating-speaking-ielts-speaking-test

IELTS

What happens in a test?

The IELTS speaking test is one candidate and one examiner, <b>who manages the test and evaluates the candidate at the same time</b>. The test is separated into three parts. Each part takes about 4 minutes. In parts 1 and 2 the examiner uses a script, in part 2 a list of questions.

I know, after the candidate leaves the room, then they do the marking using the guide they have. Kaya nga me konting waiting time after each candidates.

nice_guy

@mharcute When I look at my TRF, iba iba yung Examiner # sa Writing and Speaking section. Since 1 lang naman ang examiner namin during that day sa 4 na test, most likely na hindi yung examiner that test day ang nagbigay ng score.

Anyway, whichever is the case, wala namang difference as long as you are confident and maayos ang sagot sa mga questions. 🙂

wizardofOz

Hindi ba tinitingnan sa Speaking exam kung gaano ka "Natural" yung pagsasalita ng candidate?

For example kung magsasalita ang candidate ng napakahusay sa tapat nung recorder without looking at the Examiner, doing hand gestures, or making facial expressions, etc.. would he still get the optimum score he targets?

It is worthwhile to note din na during the Speaking exam, although ang candidate ang majority na nagsasalita, it is still a "conversation", and you have to engage the Examiner.. kaya he is urging you to talk more.

nice_guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hY_zAS_zyY

3:00 to 4:30

I believe they have basis to say na hindi yung examiner mismo yung nag ii score sa Speaking Test.

Anyway, it would be safe to assume both, na either yung examiner or other person yung nagbibigay ng score. So importante yung hand gestures/eye contact/facial expression sa examiner, as well as clear and sounds confident yung sa recording.

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