Share some tips on IELTS

LokiJr

Ang tinutukoy niyo po ata ay yung grade requirement as per Immigration Point System.

Sa immigration kasi para makakuha ng 10 points kailangan lahat ng exams niyo 7 each ...at para makakuha ng 20 points, kailangan lahat ng exam results niyo at least 8 or above each.

Sa case ko po, naka 20 points ako kasi 8 above mga lumabas sa IELTS ko...hindi nirround up kung naka decimal ang score niyo.

Yung IELTS results ang may decimal grading, which in immigration requirements medyo non-factor po siya so kung magpapa remark kayo, sana igrant sa inyo is 7 para may points kayo makukuha 🙂

gemini23

<blockquote rel="LokiJr">Ang tinutukoy niyo po ata ay yung grade requirement as per Immigration Point System.

Sa immigration kasi para makakuha ng 10 points kailangan lahat ng exams niyo 7 each ...at para makakuha ng 20 points, kailangan lahat ng exam results niyo at least 8 or above each.

Sa case ko po, naka 20 points ako kasi 8 above mga lumabas sa IELTS ko...hindi nirround up kung naka decimal ang score niyo.

Yung IELTS results ang may decimal grading, which in immigration requirements medyo non-factor po siya so kung magpapa remark kayo, sana igrant sa inyo is 7 para may points kayo makukuha 🙂</blockquote>

No, I'm talking about IELTS. Kasi ang Writing and Speaking subjective type of tests sila, di ba kaya yung band score 1-9 may description yan kagay ng rubric depending dun sa score na nakuha mo. I will post here the website nung nabasa ko.

gemini23

Eto yung band descriptors for Writing Task 1 and 2 respectively.

http://www.ielts.org/PDF/UOBDs_WritingT1.pdf

http://www.ielts.org/PDF/UOBDs_WritingT2.pdf

The site below is the band descriptor for Speaking but I doubt if it is officially from IELTS.

http://www.abroadeducation.com.np/test-preparation/ielts/score-pattern.html

icebreaker1928

<blockquote rel="gemini23"><blockquote rel="LokiJr">If by decimal po you mean may 0.5 then opo, nagbibigay sila ng ganun sa Speaking.

8.5 binigay nila sa akin dun hehe</blockquote>

Sa nabasa ko kasi kanina online, my description sa bawat band score, so if my decimal nga naman what would be the description??? Like your score, description ba ng 8 or 9... I'm just wondering, kasi very contradicting yung mga score natin sa Speaking na may decimal dun sa info na nakuha ko. Bakit kasi hindi na lang i-round off ano? Haitzzz...

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Hi mam, let me explain kung pano po nagkaka 0.5 ang mga score natin sa writing at speaking, base din ito sa paliwanag ng niners if I remember it correctly (correct me if I'm wrong also sa mga ibang nakakaalam)

Ang writing at speaking natin ay may mga criteria for judging... so kung ibabase po natin sa writing... ang mga criteria nya ay ang mga sumusunod...

Task Response
coherence cohesion
Lexical Resource
Grammatical Range and Accuracy

So for example ang writing natin ay nagkaroon ng ganitong score...

Task Response = 9 (nasagot mo yung tanong, perfect kaya 9)

coherence cohesion = 7 (pede na)

Lexical Resource = 7 (pede na rin)

Grammatical Range and Accuracy = 5 (sablay ka sa grammar)

so kung icocompute natin yan ganito...

(9+7+7+5)/4 = 7

so ok walang problema, walang 0.5... pero kung ganito naman ang score mo....

Task Response = 9 (nasagot mo yung tanong, perfect kaya 9)

coherence cohesion = 7 (pede na)

Lexical Resource = 7 (pede na rin)

Grammatical Range and Accuracy = 7 (pede na rin ang grammar)

pag compute...

(9+7+7+7)/4 = 7.5

so, kaya po nagkakaroon ng 0.5 ang mga score natin... base dun sa 4 na criteria...

pero take note, since nag-introduce sila ng half score, ang ginawa nilang standard ay round down...not round up... so kung sample ang score mo ay 7.75 (sample lang) ang score pa rin nyan ay 7.5 NOT 8... kasi nga round down...

hope it helps and sana naliwanagan po kayo.... 🙂

icebreaker1928

<blockquote rel="gemini23">A big LECHE FLAN for my IELTS scores especially in my Writing. After the 2 weeks of rigid training and a lot of expenses, I got only 6 in Writing....ni hindi man lang nag-qualify for university entrance sa Aussie. Ganoon ba ko kahina sa Writing???? After teaching TOFEL for 2 and been teaching business English to adults here in Indonesia? After practicing to write IELTS essays everyday using all the resources I got online and BC and the fact that my practice essays were checked by my British colleague. Haaaiittzz....Eto na yata ang obvious sign na hinihintay ko whether to pursue migrating to Australia. On the other side of my head, cguro Indonesian ang examiner and na-insecure sa akin kasi ako lang Pinoy dun sa batch??? Anyways, I plan to remark my Writing kahit magbayad ulit ako, at least kahit hindi tumuloy mag-apply for Aussie visa mabalik ko man lang confidence ko sa sarili ko. X_X </blockquote>

I suggest po to use Whitesmoke software... it checks your grammar and grades your essay...

like you said, subjective ang writing so we will never know if your British colleague is grading your essay fair enough... suggestion ko lang naman po... you can PM me if you want a copy of the said software. 🙂

burberry

@icebreaker1928 , helo ako din pede penge ng copy ng software na yan hehe. pede ba sa vista at xp ? email add- burberry0513@yahoo.com . thank you

LokiJr

@gemini23, as mentioned by icebreaker and as stated in the link you posted may mga criteria po sa grading ng writing exam. It's possible that you did well on some areas pero nahila lang ang score niyo sa ibang area naman.

The assessment is subjective so you can always contest its marks -hence, getting the 7 instead of a 6 is possible. I'd like to think na wala sa lahi ng assessor yung basehan ng grades. May standards na sinusunod mga yan kasi...

Mainam po siguro magrequest nga kayo ng remarking. Huwag kayo susuko, pagsubok lang ni Lord yan para makita kung seryoso nga kayo sa pagpunta ng Australia hehe 🙂

icebreaker1928

@burberry sent... next time sa PM na lang po, wag na po dito sa forum. tnx 🙂

gemini23

<blockquote rel="icebreaker1928"><blockquote rel="gemini23"><blockquote rel="LokiJr">If by decimal po you mean may 0.5 then opo, nagbibigay sila ng ganun sa Speaking.

8.5 binigay nila sa akin dun hehe</blockquote>

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Ang writing at speaking natin ay may mga criteria for judging... so kung ibabase po natin sa writing... ang mga criteria nya ay ang mga sumusunod...

Task Response
coherence cohesion
Lexical Resource
Grammatical Range and Accuracy

So for example ang writing natin ay nagkaroon ng ganitong score...

Task Response = 9 (nasagot mo yung tanong, perfect kaya 9)

coherence cohesion = 7 (pede na)

Lexical Resource = 7 (pede na rin)

Grammatical Range and Accuracy = 5 (sablay ka sa grammar)

so kung icocompute natin yan ganito...

(9+7+7+5)/4 = 7

so ok walang problema, walang 0.5... pero kung ganito naman ang score mo....

Task Response = 9 (nasagot mo yung tanong, perfect kaya 9)

coherence cohesion = 7 (pede na)

Lexical Resource = 7 (pede na rin)

Grammatical Range and Accuracy = 7 (pede na rin ang grammar)

pag compute...

(9+7+7+7)/4 = 7.5

so, kaya po nagkakaroon ng 0.5 ang mga score natin... base dun sa 4 na criteria...

hope it helps and sana naliwanagan po kayo.... 🙂

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Sure, I'm familiar with what you explained because this is what I do for scoring the Writing test of my Grade 2 students. Dito kasi sa Indonesia, yung mga international schools, as early as P1, IELTS style ang test nila sa English. My Speaking, Writing, Reading and Listening, so I know how to score Writing and Speaking using rubric and using criteria for judging na sinasabi mo. I just wonder about the Speaking, just like what I said, kung chineck mo yung pinost kong website, desciptions lang ang ginamit for each band score. Example:

9 - Expert user

8 - Very good user

7 - Good user

and etc.

I don't know if my ginamit din silang rubric or descriptors lang in assessing the Speaking test. Do you know the criteria for judging the Speaking test? I was looking for it in BC website pero wala akong nakita.

LokiJr

Ito po mga nahanap ko regarding Speaking Exam assessment:

http://www.teachingenglish.org.uk/articles/evaluating-speaking-ielts-speaking-test

http://www.dcielts.com/ielts-speaking/band-scores-explained-2/

Four criteria rin gamit nila namely: Fluency/Coherence, Pronunciation, Lexical Resource at Grammatical Range & Accuracy.

Hope this helps 🙂

gemini23

Moving on from Writing and Speaking scoring....did anyone here use a pencil in doing the Writing test? Pencil kasi ginamit ko kasi according to the proctor kahit ano daw pwede gamitin (pencil or ballpen)...Di kaya may bawas points if pencil?

icebreaker1928

<blockquote rel="gemini23">Moving on from Writing and Speaking scoring....did anyone here use a pencil in doing the Writing test? Pencil kasi ginamit ko kasi according to the proctor kahit ano daw pwede gamitin (pencil or ballpen)...Di kaya may bawas points if pencil?</blockquote>

I use pencil in all my writing, it doesn't matter if ballpen or pencil, what matters is the content po.

icebreaker1928

<blockquote rel="gemini23"><blockquote rel="icebreaker1928"><blockquote rel="gemini23"><blockquote rel="LokiJr">If by decimal po you mean may 0.5 then opo, nagbibigay sila ng ganun sa Speaking.

8.5 binigay nila sa akin dun hehe</blockquote>

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Ang writing at speaking natin ay may mga criteria for judging... so kung ibabase po natin sa writing... ang mga criteria nya ay ang mga sumusunod...

Task Response
coherence cohesion
Lexical Resource
Grammatical Range and Accuracy

So for example ang writing natin ay nagkaroon ng ganitong score...

Task Response = 9 (nasagot mo yung tanong, perfect kaya 9)

coherence cohesion = 7 (pede na)

Lexical Resource = 7 (pede na rin)

Grammatical Range and Accuracy = 5 (sablay ka sa grammar)

so kung icocompute natin yan ganito...

(9+7+7+5)/4 = 7

so ok walang problema, walang 0.5... pero kung ganito naman ang score mo....

Task Response = 9 (nasagot mo yung tanong, perfect kaya 9)

coherence cohesion = 7 (pede na)

Lexical Resource = 7 (pede na rin)

Grammatical Range and Accuracy = 7 (pede na rin ang grammar)

pag compute...

(9+7+7+7)/4 = 7.5

so, kaya po nagkakaroon ng 0.5 ang mga score natin... base dun sa 4 na criteria...

hope it helps and sana naliwanagan po kayo.... 🙂

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9 - Expert user

8 - Very good user

7 - Good user

and etc.

</blockquote>

May rubric din silang ginagamit sa speaking...

Fluency and coherence
Lexical Resource
Grammatical range and accuracy
Pronunciation

check this url from british council...

http://www.britishcouncil.org/srilanka-exams-ielts-descriptor-speaking.pdf

and the computation is the same with how I explained from above.

If you are really confident with your speaking and writing, you can have it remark just like what I did.

cheers 🙂

gemini23

@icebreaker1928

Ayos...so false pala yung sinabi ng coach namin na ballpen dapat gamitin sa Writing part!

gemini23

Oh yes, I remember the criteria that we discussed during our Speaking practice in IDP. What I was looking for is the rubric for scoring the Speaking test and thanks for sharing this site: http://www.britishcouncil.org/srilanka-exams-ielts-descriptor-speaking.pdf

LokiJr

Lapis din po ginamit ko. There are also external factors that could affect your scores...was your handwriting legible? were you able to speak clearly during the recording?

Anyway, we hope you will receive a positive outcome with the remarking 🙂

Methylester

Hi everyone! Itanong ko lng tong mga to, para sure. Sa Jan 5 and 7 na exam ko eh, speaking ung sa 5 tapos ung the rest sa 7 na. Sana pinagsama n lng nila sa isang araw para isang paghihirap n lng.. hehe.

Speaking- Kaylangan bang ikaw ung mag oras sa sarili mo kung tapos na ang 1 minute preparation? o sasabihan ka nmn ng examiner? Ganun din ba sa 2 minutes na pagsagot?
Others- Ok lang bang ALL CAPS ung mga sagot sa listening at reading? or strict sila sa casing? Anu ba dapat gamitin sa writing, lapis o ballpen? May factor ba kung 'kabit-kabit' ung sulat mo or printed n lng kaya para mas madaling basahin?

Thank you po. Godbless sa mga katulad kong mag eexam din! Kaya natin to! *sigh hehe

gemini23

Look at the brighter side na lang if magkahiwalay yung schedule ng Speaking from the rest of the test components. Gusto ko nga ng ganun kesa one day in all, nakaka-pressure masyado, then kung ma-migrane ka pa after ng written tests, do or die na lang mangyayari hehehe.

The examiner will tell you as when to stop sa preparation at sa 2 minutes speaking naman hindi naman basta basta kina-cut if di pa tapos sinasabi mo, ewan ko sa experience ng iba. Saka if undertime naman, i-aask ka naman if there's anything else that you would like to add or makikita mo sa facial expression ng examiner na parang hinihintay ka pang magsalita ulit.

Ang alam kong all block letters dun sa information na you need to fill up before the test. But of course sa written test like sa Reading and Listening you have to be conscious of your capitalisation, like for example sa fill in the blanks, minsan yung word nasa start ng sentence or kaya proper noun sya, so I think it matters. For writing, definitely you have to write with correct capitalization kasi may mga punctuations na dito and dito nila makikita how you construct sentences and paragraphs.

Well, according to my IELTS coach dapat ballpen gamitin but nung test day, I asked the proctor ok daw kahit ballpen or pencil. And I think may sumagot na dito sa thread na it doesn't matter whether you use pencil pr pen. In terms of handwriting style, I believe it doesn't matter too as long as it is legible and neat.

I hope I was able to answer all your questions. Good luck on your IELTS!

icebreaker1928

<blockquote rel="Methylester">Hi everyone! Itanong ko lng tong mga to, para sure. Sa Jan 5 and 7 na exam ko eh, speaking ung sa 5 tapos ung the rest sa 7 na. Sana pinagsama n lng nila sa isang araw para isang paghihirap n lng.. hehe.

Speaking- Kaylangan bang ikaw ung mag oras sa sarili mo kung tapos na ang 1 minute preparation? o sasabihan ka nmn ng examiner? Ganun din ba sa 2 minutes na pagsagot?
Others- Ok lang bang ALL CAPS ung mga sagot sa listening at reading? or strict sila sa casing? Anu ba dapat gamitin sa writing, lapis o ballpen? May factor ba kung 'kabit-kabit' ung sulat mo or printed n lng kaya para mas madaling basahin?

Thank you po. Godbless sa mga katulad kong mag eexam din! Kaya natin to! *sigh hehe

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Speaking - you don't need to worry about anything... the only thing you need to do is to keep on speaking and expressing your ideas and answer the questions given to you... sa 1 minute preparation may oras yun pero sila magsasabi kung tapos na ang 1 min mo... then sa 2 minutes you just keep on talking and talking unless you are told to stop... kung wala ka na masabi don't ever say "that's all"... that's all means, that's all the English language you knew...

kung wala na masabi think of other things to say na may kinalaman sa topic mo... kung ang tanong is what is your favorite food... e puros adobo lang alam mo at paborito mo, so napakasaglit na segundo lang tapos ang agad ang sasabihin mo, pede mo to dagdagan basta may kinalaman pa rin about food like... gusto mo rin ng desert na ganito ganyan... gusto mo rin yung mga exotic na food... gusto mo rin yung adobong manok, baboy, aso, pusa, daga etc... anything about food, wag ka lang lilihis sa topic...

ALL CAPS - well ang turo sa niners... ok lang ang all caps sa mga sagot sa listening at reading, may nabasa din ako somewhere sa internet na ang capitalization is not important sa listening at reading, hindi na DAW sila ganon ka strict... BUT for me, I didn't take the risk... kung capital dapat ang start ng word, capital ang gamit ko, pag small, small ang gamit ko... so my tip is kung alam mo ang tamang capitalization ng words... then do it... why take the risk... opinion ko lang naman po...

lapis ang gamit sa IELTS exam, nakasulat naman yun nung magbayad ka, may binigay sila kung ano ang dapat mong dalhin, 3 mongol pencils all number 2.

kabit kabit or printed doesn't matter as long as its readable... ang content po ang mahalaga hindi po ang handwriting...

hope it helps... goodluck!!!

Bryann

@icebreaker1928

Thanks ayan mas malinaw na. Habang binabasa mo itong thread, mas nakakawala ng kaba. Haha.

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