Australian Citizenship Application Question

PogingNoypi

Hello everyone,

I know this is too early to ask but I am just curious.

So let's say my PR Visa is effective until 15 September 2017 but I will just start to live in Australia in June 2014. I know there is a requirement wherein you need to be in Australia for 4 years prior you apply for an Australian Citizenship, do I still need to apply for a PR visa after Sept. 15, 2017 so that I can satisfy the citizenship requirement? I hope my question make sense.

TasBurrfoot

<blockquote rel="PogingNoypi">Hello everyone,

I know this is too early to ask but I am just curious.

It is too early nga... First thing to worry is get yourself established here when you arrive! 🙂

Anyway, to answer your question; technically you can only apply for citizenship on or after June 2018 correct?

Essentially what happens after Sept 15, 2017 is that your reentry visa permit as a PR will becoming void. You are still a PR per se but in the event that you leave Australia, you cannot enter back if you don't renew this visa.

There will be no issues if you remain in Australia with an expired re-entry visa, and yes you can still apply for citizenship when you are already qualified.

Hope this helps; if my understanding is wrong on this matter, please feel free to let me know.

JCsantos

Ang alam ko sa ( PR) skilled independent you can stay as long as you want kahit paso na yung visa mo provided na imde ka lalabas ng australia, then it is up to you to file another extension ng PR status mo or file for a citizenship

anne9

@TasBurrfoot @JCsantos Hi! i-clarify ko lang sana, so kahit nag expire na yung PR/Skilled Independent visa mo, you are allowed to continue to stay in Australia? PR status ka parin? Yung sa akin kasi will expire Aug 2015, kaya iniisip ko paano i-renew. 🙂

JCsantos

@anne9

Read your visa conditions just to make sure, it will say something like 'Indefinite stay' , we also came here as independent skilled migrant so I am guessing we have the same conditions

PogingNoypi

<blockquote rel="TasBurrfoot"><blockquote rel="PogingNoypi">Hello everyone,

I know this is too early to ask but I am just curious.

It is too early nga... First thing to worry is get yourself established here when you arrive! 🙂

Anyway, to answer your question; technically you can only apply for citizenship on or after June 2018 correct?

There will be no issues if you remain in Australia with an expired re-entry visa, and yes you can still apply for citizenship when you are already qualified.

Hope this helps; if my understanding is wrong on this matter, please feel free to let me know.</blockquote>

Hello TasBurrfoot,

Curious lang po ako, ano ano po ba yung requirements na pinasa nyo para makakuha ng citizenship? Nagpasa po ba ulit kayo ng NBI, Police Clearances from the Philippines? Naiiisip ko kasi abala na naman sa pagkuha kasi may expiration ang mga NBI at police clearances sa Pinas.

MANZ

even when your visa expires you will still be PR but you should not leave Australia otherwise you have to apply for re-entry. You do not have to apply for PR again as you are already PR, just the right to come and leave the country is affected by the 5 year visa. You can leave the country but make sure you get a resident return visa from Immigration.

Next step would be to apply for citizenship (assuming you have been here 4 years) and yes you will need your NBI clearances. You can get the forms from your local consulate as they will thumbmark you and then you can send the NBI form to someone in the Philippines you know for processing.

JCsantos

Nagbago na ba ang process, dati all we did was pass the citizenship exam and that's it ... we did not applied for a NBI clearance

http://www.citizenship.gov.au/learn/law-and-policy/legis_changes/res_req_changes/

Between 1 July 2007 and 30 June 2010 there has been transitional arrangements in place.

If you became a permanent resident before 1 July 2007, and apply on or before 30 June 2010, the residence requirement is:

    You must have been living in Australia for 2 years as a permanent resident in the 5 years immediately before applying, including 1 year in the 2 years immediately before applying.

If you became a permanent resident on or after 1 July 2007 the residence requirement is:

    You must have been living in Australia on a valid Australian visa for 4 years immediately before applying, including 1 year as a permanent resident, and

    You must not have been absent from Australia for more than 1 year during the 4 year period, including no more than 90 days in the year immediately before applying.

muffles127

@JCsantos meron kasing part dun regarding good character pero sa pagkakaalam ko meron siyang requisites dun para marequire ka humingi ng police clearance ie nung time na permanent resident ka eh nawala ka sa australia for more than 90 days so need mo kumuha ng police clearance from the country na nagspend ka nung 90 days. So kung less than hindi naman kelangan 🙂 yan ang last known na alam ko din not sure kung binago nila uli yan 🙂

PogingNoypi

<blockquote rel="muffles127">@JCsantos meron kasing part dun regarding good character pero sa pagkakaalam ko meron siyang requisites dun para marequire ka humingi ng police clearance ie nung time na permanent resident ka eh nawala ka sa australia for more than 90 days so need mo kumuha ng police clearance from the country na nagspend ka nung 90 days. So kung less than hindi naman kelangan 🙂 yan ang last known na alam ko din not sure kung binago nila uli yan 🙂</blockquote>

Parang ganto nga po ang pagkakaexplain sa akin dati. Pag 4 years ay nasa Australia lang, wala ka na po kukuning NBI clearance.

JCsantos

C wifey ko nag initial entry ng june tapos bumalik ng feb pero inde kumuha ng nbi when she applied for a citizenship

sydneysider

i applied for citizenship June this year. i was never out of Australia since 2010. we were not asked to submit a nbi clearance. tama sila...

You need penal clearance certificates from overseas countries if:

you lived or travelled overseas since the age of 18 years or over, and

the total time spent overseas added up to 12 months or more, and

the time spent in any one country was more than 90 days, or

you are requested to do so by the department.

Provide a penal clearance certificate from every country that you spent more than 90 days in.

mjse

hi all! tanong lang po regarding citizenship..

yung mga baby na dependent ng primary visa holder na hindi kagad naisasama sa AU immediately after nagmigrate ang parents, will they be eligible to be applied for citizenship kasabay ng parents kahit di pa sila nakakapagstay sa australia ng 4 yrs? or dapat mag buno muna sila ng 4 yrs before they can be applied for citizenship?

wala po kasi kame idea, any input is much appreciated.

vhoythoy

Tanong lang nag initial entry kami last july 27 2014 then mag move kami sa australia by May 2015. Mga anong earliest time namin na makaapply ng citizenship? May 2019 tama ba? Since mga around 10 months kami wla sa oz, from initial entry to big move, ibig sabihin kapag lumabas pa kami ng cummulative 3 months before applications need na namin kumuha ng nbi ulit? Thanks

muffles127

@vhoythoy kung tama ang pagkakaintindi ko sa time na inactivate mo yung visa mo yun na ang Permanent residence start date mo so July 27, 2018 pwede ka na magapply 🙂 sabi kse sa rules basta over 90 days kelangan ng penal clearance certificate. Sa philippines ka ba bumalik after ng initial entry mo?if so yun kelangan daw 🙂 pero sa experience ni JCsantos hindi daw hiningan yung wife niya so baka pwedeng hindi haha 🙂

vhoythoy

Ung wife at anak ko sa pinas ako naman sa sg continue my work. So ako sg police clearance at ung wife ko nman nbi sa pinas? It means kapag nag initial entry ka then bumalik ka after a year automatic required ka na kumuha ng police clearance/ nbi kapag nag apply ka sa earliest time for citizenship application?

muffles127

@vhoythoy disregard mo nga yung sinabi ko anyways, binasa ko kse uli yung rule meron siyang requisites para mahingan ka basta wag over 12 months na nawala ka hindi ka nila irerequire. Since 10 months ka lang nawala hindi ka nila hihingan. Pero pag over 12 months ka nawala hihingan ka sa mga countries na nagstay ka over 90 days 🙂 medyo clear na ba?

muffles127

^eto yung excerpt

Penal clearance certificates from overseas countries are

required if:

• you lived or travelled outside Australia since the age of

18 years or over, and

• you held a permanent Australian visa at that time, and

• the total time spent outside Australia added up to

12 months or more, and

• the time spent in any one country was more than 90 days,

• requested by the department.

So dapat mameet mo yung mga bullet points na yan 🙂 hindi kase siya "or" so I assume dapat mameet mo siya lahat para marequire ka ng penal clearance 🙂

ricominero

Meron pong residence requirement calculator ang immi.

eto ung link: https://www.ecom.immi.gov.au/citz/startIntervalCalc.do

To satisfy the residence requirements you must have:

4 years lawful residence in Australia. This period must include 12 months as a permanent resident immediately before making an application for Australian citizenship

and

absences from Australia of no more than 12 months in total in the 4 years prior to application, including not more than 90 days in the 12 months immediately prior to application.

vhoythoy

<blockquote rel="rpdimapilis">Meron pong residence requirement calculator ang immi.

eto ung link: https://www.ecom.immi.gov.au/citz/startIntervalCalc.do

To satisfy the residence requirements you must have:

4 years lawful residence in Australia. This period must include 12 months as a permanent resident immediately before making an application for Australian citizenship

and

absences from Australia of no more than 12 months in total in the 4 years prior to application, including not more than 90 days in the 12 months immediately prior to application.</blockquote>

Tama ba, nag entry kami July 26 2014 umalis ng 2 Aug 2014 and babalik ng May 2015 (less than a year). Ang lawful residence namin will start at 26 July 2014?