Defacto (same sex) dilemma

RheaMARN1171933

@subersibo23 you're better off including her in your visa application as dependent. That way, you can move together and she'll have same visa as you. I do have cases of same sex relationship applying for permanent visa.

subersibo23

@RheaMARN1171933 Thanks sa reply. Ano ang difference ng PR sa Visa 189? Parehas lang ba sya? I am planning to apply this year. Tatapusin ko lang ang contract ko sa Dubai, then magmigrate kami by this year din sana.

RheaMARN1171933

PR means permanent visa. 189 visa is an example of a permanent visa. I'm not sure if you've done enough research already but timeline for applying for visa from start to finish is 12 months or more. So the sooner you get things started, the sooner you'll get there. What's your occupation? Be mindful that major changes in policies and occupation lists happen every year in July. If you're occupation is on the list now it doesn't follow it will still be there in July. I always tell clients to get started sooner rather than later or risk the possibility of missing out on opportunities due to changes in policy.

subersibo23

@RheaMARN1171933 Hi. TBH, no research done yet. Chemical engineer ako, by the way. Last year pa ako naghahanap ng work sa Australia so I can have a sponsorship instead. Kaso, employers want me to be there already for the interview. Kaya magaapply na lang ako ng visa para makapunta.

RheaMARN1171933

@subersibo23 you're better off applying on your own then getting a sponsor. I always tell my clients this. Luckily wala ka nahanap before otherwise if you're in Australia na you may be one of those stuck dahil they recently changed the rules in sponsorship visa wherein it won't be a pathway for migration anymore.

This forum is a good source of info but just be careful with what advice you will take in for yourself. Each case is very individual and what applies to one doesn't mean it applies to all. From my personal experience on my Australian journey which was many years ago, the more you know about the process, the more confusing it could get. I ended up using an agent since I didn't want to make a mistake which could make my application messy - ending up wasting more time and money. Anyway, due to my experience, it inspired me to study Australian immigration law so I can be qualified to assist others too and promised myself I won't be one of those many agents who take advantage of those pursuing their Australian dream by charging too much.

Anyway, get things started na ASAP before you miss out on your chances. Good luck!

ldrrelationship

hi po.

mag apply po yung partner ko for 189 at balak niya na din ako isama yung application ko. Same sex couple po kami. my joint account na po kami pero LDR kami,nsa Italy ako sya nasa Pinas. Based sa mga nababasa ko po dto,needed talaga na live in? o my iba pede ipasa to prove na couple talaga kami?

thank you po sa mga sasagot.

Mia

@ldrrelationship you need to provide evidence that you have compelling reasons to be apart. Hindi kailangan live in for the whole duration of the relationship but must have for a time and may evidence. Hindi po pwede yung gf-gf or bf-bf lang.

chewy

Hi po. My partner and I are gathering docs to prove our de facto relationship for 190 visa application. We have been living in the same flat since early last year pero wala kaming tenancy agreement so magpapagawa sana kami ng statement from the landlord na we are his tenants. San po pwedeng makakuha ng format for the statement/declaration? I have a rough idea, but just want to make sure that I cover all the bases before we send him a draft. Salamat po for your time.

RheaMARN1171933

@chewy tenancy agreement isn’t the only way to prove co-habitation. You can also provide bills showing the same address for both of you.

chewy

@RheaMARN1171933 Hi po, thanks for your reply.

hersheythegreat

@chewy hi, I know someone who didn't have a rental agreement but was able to get a grant. Kaso they were living with the girl's parents and yung parents nagbigay ng statement na they were indeed living together.

cherfurt

Hi all! My girlfriend's visa just got granted today so I just wanted to share our journey hoping to help others out there din who's going through this whole process.

My girlfriend and I applied for a student visa. I am the primary applicant whereas she, was my dependent. Unfortunately during our first application, I was the only one who got the visa grant. Bale narefuse po sya. The reason was hindi nasatisfy yung CO sa proof namin. But in reality, may mali kasi kami dun. We have a joint account kaso imbes na bank STATEMENT ipinasa namin, bank CERTIFICATE lang po pinasa namin. Yun yung major cause ng refusal. According sa refusal letter, need daw makita na we have the account for atleast a year and gusto din makita ng CO na may mga transactions kami sa account na yun.

So we reapplied. Although hindi agad agad kasi we wanted to make sure na we have the complete documents.

Below were the documents we sent nung first application namin:

Apartment lease (2 years worth)
Bank certificate
statement from friends and family (by family I meant side lang nya kasi hindi kami legal sa side ko)
Photos of us, mga 20 pages to
Letters, tickets, hotel receipts, and utility bills
Brgy. Clearance
Drivers license showing na we are each other's emergency contact.

Bale within 24 hours from lodging our first application, lumabas agad results. Ako granted, sya refused. So we asked our agent ulit kung ano pa pwede gawin. He said we can reapply, we just needed to provide more proof. So it took us four months to gather everything.

Below were the additional documents we sent during my girlfriend's SECOND APPLICATION:

Statement from family (my side naman this time. So yes, nag come out ang ate nyo for the sake of my girlfriend's visa)
SPA for the car na we have been using. (nakapangalan kasi sa dad ng jowa ko yung car kaya we needed an SPA)
BANK CERTIFICATE AND STATEMENT (minakesure namin na naibigay na namin to)
Proof of funds worth Php 2.1M (1.6 lang nirequire ni agent pero dinagdagan namin just to be sure)

Bale timeline nung second application is:

June 4 - Lodging of Visa

June 17 - Visa Grant <3

July - Lipad ni jowa pa Australia

Have faith lang mga kalahi, everything will work out in God's time. Happy pride month everyone <3

RheaMARN1171933

@chewy basically you need to satisfy minimum 12 months of cohabitation - as mentioned, tenancy agreement isn’t the only way to prove this. Also you need to prove there is interdependence between the two of you - socially, within the household, financially and emotionally. Good luck.

chewy

@hersheythegreat thanks for the info. 🙂 Meron din kaming bills showing the same address kaya lang late kami nagupdate ng address kaya the period of living together will be much shorter if based lang dun. Pero I might use the sample you sent me to help me draft a statement from the landlord. Salamat. 🙂

chewy

@RheaMARN1171933 thank you po! the bills we have will satisfy the 12 months of cohabitation naman, we just wanted to bolster our claim with a statement from the landlord para sure. 🙂 nakalagay din po sa personal statements namin yung interdependence between us as a couple, plus bank statements na rin. thank you po for the advise! 🙂

RheaMARN1171933

@chewy that’s the right way to go. I always advice my clients to provide as much documents as possible - more is better than less. Good luck.

kamoteuglz_07

hello po sa mga na approve na: hhingi po sna ng advise. we are preparing all documents pra po sa visa application nmin ng partner ko, ngclaim po kmi ng points nia anu po mga mga documents dpat need? maraming salamats po sa sasagot

hersheythegreat

@cherfurt said:

Hi all! My girlfriend's visa just got granted today so I just wanted to share our journey hoping to help others out there din who's going through this whole process.

My girlfriend and I applied for a student visa. I am the primary applicant whereas she, was my dependent. Unfortunately during our first application, I was the only one who got the visa grant. Bale narefuse po sya. The reason was hindi nasatisfy yung CO sa proof namin. But in reality, may mali kasi kami dun. We have a joint account kaso imbes na bank STATEMENT ipinasa namin, bank CERTIFICATE lang po pinasa namin. Yun yung major cause ng refusal. According sa refusal letter, need daw makita na we have the account for atleast a year and gusto din makita ng CO na may mga transactions kami sa account na yun.
So we reapplied. Although hindi agad agad kasi we wanted to make sure na we have the complete documents.
Below were the documents we sent nung first application namin:

Apartment lease (2 years worth)

Bank certificate

statement from friends and family (by family I meant side lang nya kasi hindi kami legal sa side ko)

Photos of us, mga 20 pages to

Letters, tickets, hotel receipts, and utility bills

Brgy. Clearance

Drivers license showing na we are each other's emergency contact.
Bale within 24 hours from lodging our first application, lumabas agad results. Ako granted, sya refused. So we asked our agent ulit kung ano pa pwede gawin. He said we can reapply, we just needed to provide more proof. So it took us four months to gather everything.
Below were the additional documents we sent during my girlfriend's SECOND APPLICATION:

Statement from family (my side naman this time. So yes, nag come out ang ate nyo for the sake of my girlfriend's visa)

SPA for the car na we have been using. (nakapangalan kasi sa dad ng jowa ko yung car kaya we needed an SPA)

BANK CERTIFICATE AND STATEMENT (minakesure namin na naibigay na namin to)

Proof of funds worth Php 2.1M (1.6 lang nirequire ni agent pero dinagdagan namin just to be sure)

Bale timeline nung second application is:

June 4 - Lodging of Visa
June 17 - Visa Grant <3
July - Lipad ni jowa pa Australia
Have faith lang mga kalahi, everything will work out in God's time. Happy pride month everyone <3

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