Australian Computer Society Skills Application

tiggeroo

@ichi_pestano hello, I'll try to answer some of your Qs too since similar din to my case:

That's what me and my partner did too, both got assessed and took the english exams. In the strict sense defacto means living together, and the date you started the defacto relationship will be the date you started living together. So make sure lang ung proof of billing and such that you will use as paper proof of your relationship will extend way back to the date when you will claim to have started the defacto relationship.
Is your bf's mother living with you (the couple)? This will probably be the biggest question you will have to answer and prove. Based on what you mentioned on #1, you will be using your credit card bills na naka secondary si bf, so I'm guessing address un ng house mo, and not your bf's house? So if you will use that for defacto proof, you will also have to prove that your MIL lives in that same house.

My take on this last one is that, if long long long term you really plan on getting your MIL to AU, and since both kayo ni bf skilled. Apply kayo separately with your bf putting in his mom as his dependent. This will still turn out way cheaper and faster than going through the parent visa path which will cost you more than a million in pesos and take 30 years to apply.

You can also check this case:

http://pinoyau.info/discussion/6022/rejected-dependent-parent-can-still-re-appeal#latest

rich88

@tiggeroo yeah, review review na for IELTS while waiting. as of now Stage 1 pa rin. D ata sila nag wowork pag weekend haha. thanks!

Once submitted na yung status sa ACS, hindi mo na ba talaga makikita kung ano yung occupation na ni-nominate mo? ang nakasulat na lang kasi is "in progress" eh.

is there a way para makita yun?

gmont

Pwede ka ba magsubmit ng eoi kahit wala kang makuha na points sa experience pero sinabi naman ni acs na suitable ka (pero 2 years lang)? Bale visa 190 yung applyan dahil dun kukuha ng 5 pts para maka 60. Ok lang ba yun?

tiggeroo

@gmont yup bale ung acs assessment magagamit mo padin sa qualification points kung bachelor or diploma

gmont

@tiggeroo ok thanks sa info!

coachella9

Hello Forumers,

Meron po ba sa inyo ang nag go through ng VETASSES dahil nag RPL route sa ACS (especially yung mga nag ANZSCO Code: 261112 - System Analyst)?. I hope you can share your experiences po and kung may helpful link po kayo ng separate forum discussion for ACS and VETASSES Points Test Advice. Thanks and more power. 🙂

chrisa

Hello po,

Pahelp po please. Gusto ko sama mag apply under skilled- 190. Work ko po is business analyst.

Ito po ang qualification ko:

Graduate- 2008, BS. Industrial engineering- PUP sta mesa

Work/ position: total of 8 years

2008- 2011- sap consultant

2011- 2013- business solutions manager

2013- present- business analyst

Lahat po yan is SAP functional, ng iiba lang ung job title kasi ung ibang company iba iba tawag.

Based po sa pagkaintindi ko, ibabawas po nila is 6 years as working experience kasi hindi naman ako IT course, so bale 8 years less 6 years = 2 years skilled experience.

Hindi po ako papasok sa minimum criteria na 3 years skilled experience. 🙁

Is there a way na ma credit po nila ung iba kong years na skilled experience? 🙁

Sayang naman po kasi, last time pwede na sana ako, kaso kulang pa ng years, so nghintay ako.. tapos handa na ako, nagbago naman sila. Palagi ako ng hihintay at umaasa. Nakakatakot baka next year bigla nanaman magtaas 🙁

Samalat po.

prcand

not necessarily... IT Biz Analyst din ako, pero 4 years ang bawas nila kahit CompSci ako from UP. pero may kilala ako from ateneo na walang bawas, compSci din, developer ang NOC. eto rin tanong ko, kasi nabasa ko depende ata sa officer na nag assess ng case mo.

<blockquote rel="chrisa">Hello po,

Pahelp po please. Gusto ko sama mag apply under skilled- 190. Work ko po is business analyst.

Ito po ang qualification ko:

Graduate- 2008, BS. Industrial engineering- PUP sta mesa

Work/ position: total of 8 years

2008- 2011- sap consultant

2011- 2013- business solutions manager

2013- present- business analyst

Lahat po yan is SAP functional, ng iiba lang ung job title kasi ung ibang company iba iba tawag.

Based po sa pagkaintindi ko, ibabawas po nila is 6 years as working experience kasi hindi naman ako IT course, so bale 8 years less 6 years = 2 years skilled experience.

Hindi po ako papasok sa minimum criteria na 3 years skilled experience. 🙁

Is there a way na ma credit po nila ung iba kong years na skilled experience? 🙁

Samalat po. </blockquote>

chrisa

@prcand so depende po talga? hay sana naman maayos at maganda assessment 🙁 nakakaiyak

prcand

yeah... ung JD ko sa lahat ng companies (from reputable MNCs) since i started working contained key phrases ng IT biz analyst (ie, gathering business requirements, translating to IT systems). tapos decent naman grades ko for my BS CS degree.

maliban nalang siguro if either, they only consider CS for programmers / developers, at hindi IT Biz Analyst. or that ung IT Biz Analyst ay masyado maraming nag-apply kaya medyo strikto sila na may bawas talaga.

so, it really doesn't make sense na 4 years ang bawas. natempt nga akong i challenge ung results (reassessment), pero since pasok parin sa 3 years, binawi ko nalang sa IELTS.

<blockquote rel="chrisa">@prcand so depende po talga? hay sana naman maayos at maganda assessment 🙁 nakakaiyak</blockquote>

ichi_pestano

@rich88 Thank you! All clear!

Most de facto cases na nababasa ko dito, engaged na or live-in. Sana pasok pa rin kahit in a relationship lang given na more than 1 year na kami. Will work on getting a joint account na rin to prepare. Thanks for the advice!

Siguro dun sa mom nya, pwede kayang mauna kaming dalawa tapos sya yung mag sponsor pag andon na kami?

ichi_pestano

@guenb Thanks! Good luck sa exam! Yan din kinakatakot kong part. 😃

rich88

<blockquote rel="tiggeroo">4. Is your bf's mother living with you (the couple)? This will probably be the biggest question you will have to answer and prove. Based on what you mentioned on #1, you will be using your credit card bills na naka secondary si bf, so I'm guessing address un ng house mo, and not your bf's house? So if you will use that for defacto proof, you will also have to prove that your MIL lives in that same house.

You can also check this case:

http://pinoyau.info/discussion/6022/rejected-dependent-parent-can-still-re-appeal#latest</blockquote>

@ichi_pestano hi, in my case, yes tama ka, engaged na kami and we're planning to get married by the end of the year..

regarding your partner's mom, quote ko lang yung sinabi ni @tiggeroo na mas makakamura pa daw kayo if nag separate application kayo. bale primary kayo ni partner mo, tapos dependent ng partner mo yung mom nya.

ichi_pestano

@tiggeroo

I thought about it din nga. Kaya lang, Plus half of the regular VISA kapag sub-applicant na si bf. Kaya naisip ko na cheaper than both of us going through the same process. So, thanks for providing this option.

From what I've been reading, mukhang mahirap ma-prove yung de facto relationship since we're not living in the same house. 🙁

ichi_pestano

@rich88 Yep! Noted. Thanks! 🙂

tiggeroo

@prcand looking at the acs anzsco descriptions, parang MIS ang course na hanap nila for business analyst based on the core ICT units, then nasa additional closely related lang ung most cs subjects. Meron actually ako kilala na iska din bscs applied for system analyst, 4 years binawas sa kanya, then meron siyang colleague na bs information systems pero 2 years lang ang bawas. Since same occupation group ang ICT Business and System Analysts, mukhang sa course nagkatalo.

@chrisa hindi naman po minimum requirement ang 3 years, so even without this basta maabot mo ung 60points and get suitable for migration in the result letter, you can still apply.

prcand

makes sense... sana nga eto ung reason, else, kakalungkot 🙂

<blockquote rel="tiggeroo">@prcand looking at the acs anzsco descriptions, parang MIS ang course na hanap nila for business analyst based on the core ICT units, then nasa additional closely related lang ung most cs subjects. Meron actually ako kilala na iska din bscs applied for system analyst, 4 years binawas sa kanya, then meron siyang colleague na bs information systems pero 2 years lang ang bawas. Since same occupation group ang ICT Business and System Analysts, mukhang sa course nagkatalo.

</blockquote>

ichi_pestano

Random IT-Professional-related question: 🙂

Yung average monthly sweldo ba ng mga non-programmers IT Professionals sa AU, enough kaya to survive? Kaya ba i-cover yung basic expenses like rent, food, etc.? Or medyo mahihirapan?

May separate thread po ba dito discussing cost of living sa AU?

coachella9

Hi Forumers, I just received the good news.My result came out. "Suitable". Yaaayy! Thank you Lord and sa lahat ng help dito sa forum. Sobrang bilis, i took only 3 days yung assessment. ang bilis. Well next is IELTS, prepping for IELTS. 🙂

se29m

@coachella9 baka abot ka na 60 points.. Lodge na for march invitation round.. Congrats!

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