Australian Computer Society Skills Application

buchock

@PapaMac said:

@buchock said:

@PapaMac said:

@Piper003 said:

@PapaMac said:
I have a previous supervisor for 2 years from 2017-2019. Question, will it suffice to get a statutory declaration from him when my years of employment is from 2011-2019? Wala kasi ako previous manager/supervisor na nacover nya talaga yung buong 2011-2019 employment term ko.

I assume sa isang company ka lang nagtrabaho ng 2011 - 2019 at palipat lipat ka lang ng project?

Yes po. Sa accenture lang. ndeploy lang ako sa ibat ibang project. Usually 1-2 years ako ndedeploy. Yung karamihan sa managers ko matatanda na. Yung talagang mapapakiusapan ko lang is same age ko. Kaso nakawork ko lang sya from 2017-2019. Pwde bang sya n lang to certify na roles ang responsibilities ko?

Start checking with your previous leads or manager siguro kahit sa recent project mo. Inform them what is the intention and purpose ng stats declaration.

Same din ng ginawa ko and I also worked before with ACN. I asked my lead a favor to sign the letter, I prepared everything but I let him validate the content before he sign it. So that if in case i-validate sa kanya , kaya nyang ijustify yung working relationship nya sayo at ano ang ginawa mo during employment.
It worked for you po? ACS approved it?

Yes, I got "Suitable" and I'm using the doc signed by my TL before until now whenever I renew my skills assessment with ACS. So far walang additional or supporting doc na hiningi,

I would suggest na yung Job description and duties mo are very close dun sa Occupational Code na kiniclaim mo. Always use a third-person mode of writing para di obvious na ikaw ang gumawa.

Anyways, yung employment is one if the factor lang para maging Suitable ka, depende din sa Educational background mo kung close sa kiniclaim mo

PapaMac

@buchock said:

@PapaMac said:

@buchock said:

@PapaMac said:

@Piper003 said:

@PapaMac said:
I have a previous supervisor for 2 years from 2017-2019. Question, will it suffice to get a statutory declaration from him when my years of employment is from 2011-2019? Wala kasi ako previous manager/supervisor na nacover nya talaga yung buong 2011-2019 employment term ko.

I assume sa isang company ka lang nagtrabaho ng 2011 - 2019 at palipat lipat ka lang ng project?

Yes po. Sa accenture lang. ndeploy lang ako sa ibat ibang project. Usually 1-2 years ako ndedeploy. Yung karamihan sa managers ko matatanda na. Yung talagang mapapakiusapan ko lang is same age ko. Kaso nakawork ko lang sya from 2017-2019. Pwde bang sya n lang to certify na roles ang responsibilities ko?

Start checking with your previous leads or manager siguro kahit sa recent project mo. Inform them what is the intention and purpose ng stats declaration.

Same din ng ginawa ko and I also worked before with ACN. I asked my lead a favor to sign the letter, I prepared everything but I let him validate the content before he sign it. So that if in case i-validate sa kanya , kaya nyang ijustify yung working relationship nya sayo at ano ang ginawa mo during employment.

It worked for you po? ACS approved it?
Yes, I got "Suitable" and I'm using the doc signed by my TL before until now whenever I renew my skills assessment with ACS. So far walang additional or supporting doc na hiningi,
I would suggest na yung Job description and duties mo are very close dun sa Occupational Code na kiniclaim mo. Always use a third-person mode of writing para di obvious na ikaw ang gumawa.
Anyways, yung employment is one if the factor lang para maging Suitable ka, depende din sa Educational background mo kung close sa kiniclaim mo

Thank you.. will keep these in mind.

Piper003

@luckyeli0520 said:
Hello! Nagsubmit po ako ng statutory declaration for 2 of my employments. However, ang comment ng ACS for those employments ay “ Require explanation from employer as to why an employment reference letter with description of duties cannot be obtained.” . Separate pa po ba ito from Statutory Document? Or clause lang doon?
Maraming salamat po.

Yes that is separate. Stat dec is written by your Manager/Supervisor.

Explanation letter should come from your Employer.

luckyeli0520

@Piper003 said:

@luckyeli0520 said:
Hello! Nagsubmit po ako ng statutory declaration for 2 of my employments. However, ang comment ng ACS for those employments ay “ Require explanation from employer as to why an employment reference letter with description of duties cannot be obtained.” . Separate pa po ba ito from Statutory Document? Or clause lang doon?
Maraming salamat po.
Yes that is separate. Stat dec is written by your Manager/Supervisor.
Explanation letter should come from your Employer.

Thank you @Piper003 . Ito pa isang problema. Kailangan din talaga nakikicooperate yung previous employers.

Piper003

@luckyeli0520 said:

@Piper003 said:

@luckyeli0520 said:
Hello! Nagsubmit po ako ng statutory declaration for 2 of my employments. However, ang comment ng ACS for those employments ay “ Require explanation from employer as to why an employment reference letter with description of duties cannot be obtained.” . Separate pa po ba ito from Statutory Document? Or clause lang doon?
Maraming salamat po.

Yes that is separate. Stat dec is written by your Manager/Supervisor.
Explanation letter should come from your Employer.
Thank you @Piper003 . Ito pa isang problema. Kailangan din talaga nakikicooperate yung previous employers.
Pakiusapan mo nalang ang previous employers mo explain mo nalang na requirement siya. Strict na kasi talaga si ACS ngayon. Good luck.

buchock

@Piper003 said:

@luckyeli0520 said:
Hello! Nagsubmit po ako ng statutory declaration for 2 of my employments. However, ang comment ng ACS for those employments ay “ Require explanation from employer as to why an employment reference letter with description of duties cannot be obtained.” . Separate pa po ba ito from Statutory Document? Or clause lang doon?
Maraming salamat po.
Yes that is separate. Stat dec is written by your Manager/Supervisor.
Explanation letter should come from your Employer.

This is technically correct, but if the Supervisor/Manager is not willing to create a letter with your job description etc... then you can make an arrangement that you will provide the details base on your needs but they can vett if your claims are true or not and not beyond to what you actually did during your tenure.

That's why, if you are the one writing the Stats Dec on the behalf of your lead/supervisor, ensure it is third person. ACS assessor can simply detect that.

buchock

@piglet24 said:
Quick question..has anybody submitted their EOI for the past few months and waiting for an invitation? Thanks.

I can see that last 2 invitation rounds are dated 21st of Jan and April, looking forward they have for this month

crashbandicoot

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@PapaMac said:

@Piper003 said:

@PapaMac said:
I have a previous supervisor for 2 years from 2017-2019. Question, will it suffice to get a statutory declaration from him when my years of employment is from 2011-2019? Wala kasi ako previous manager/supervisor na nacover nya talaga yung buong 2011-2019 employment term ko.

I assume sa isang company ka lang nagtrabaho ng 2011 - 2019 at palipat lipat ka lang ng project?

Yes po. Sa accenture lang. ndeploy lang ako sa ibat ibang project. Usually 1-2 years ako ndedeploy. Yung karamihan sa managers ko matatanda na. Yung talagang mapapakiusapan ko lang is same age ko. Kaso nakawork ko lang sya from 2017-2019. Pwde bang sya n lang to certify na roles ang responsibilities ko?
The stat dec must be signed by someone who oversaw your work all through out the timeline you’re claiming.

Oh no, nagsubmit ako na yung supervisor is only covering 1 year of my 4 years 🙁

Piper003

@crashbandicoot said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@PapaMac said:

@Piper003 said:

@PapaMac said:
I have a previous supervisor for 2 years from 2017-2019. Question, will it suffice to get a statutory declaration from him when my years of employment is from 2011-2019? Wala kasi ako previous manager/supervisor na nacover nya talaga yung buong 2011-2019 employment term ko.

I assume sa isang company ka lang nagtrabaho ng 2011 - 2019 at palipat lipat ka lang ng project?

Yes po. Sa accenture lang. ndeploy lang ako sa ibat ibang project. Usually 1-2 years ako ndedeploy. Yung karamihan sa managers ko matatanda na. Yung talagang mapapakiusapan ko lang is same age ko. Kaso nakawork ko lang sya from 2017-2019. Pwde bang sya n lang to certify na roles ang responsibilities ko?

The stat dec must be signed by someone who oversaw your work all through out the timeline you’re claiming.
Oh no, nagsubmit ako na yung supervisor is only covering 1 year of my 4 years 🙁

I think ACS will only assess you for 1 year out of 4 years. ☹️. Maybe you can request a stat dec from another Manager/Supervisor to cover the 3 years?

buchock

@crashbandicoot said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@PapaMac said:

@Piper003 said:

@PapaMac said:
I have a previous supervisor for 2 years from 2017-2019. Question, will it suffice to get a statutory declaration from him when my years of employment is from 2011-2019? Wala kasi ako previous manager/supervisor na nacover nya talaga yung buong 2011-2019 employment term ko.

I assume sa isang company ka lang nagtrabaho ng 2011 - 2019 at palipat lipat ka lang ng project?

Yes po. Sa accenture lang. ndeploy lang ako sa ibat ibang project. Usually 1-2 years ako ndedeploy. Yung karamihan sa managers ko matatanda na. Yung talagang mapapakiusapan ko lang is same age ko. Kaso nakawork ko lang sya from 2017-2019. Pwde bang sya n lang to certify na roles ang responsibilities ko?

The stat dec must be signed by someone who oversaw your work all through out the timeline you’re claiming.
Oh no, nagsubmit ako na yung supervisor is only covering 1 year of my 4 years 🙁

your stats dec start/end date should matched with your Cert of employment.

For my case, I have 2-3 projects within 4yrs of stay sa company, dun sa intro ng stats dec ko nakaindicate base sa Cert of employment, pero pagdating sa job description, kung ano ang pinakarecent.

I just let my supervisor na iverify muna nya ang content bago isign.

crashbandicoot

@buchock said:

@crashbandicoot said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@PapaMac said:

@Piper003 said:

@PapaMac said:
I have a previous supervisor for 2 years from 2017-2019. Question, will it suffice to get a statutory declaration from him when my years of employment is from 2011-2019? Wala kasi ako previous manager/supervisor na nacover nya talaga yung buong 2011-2019 employment term ko.

I assume sa isang company ka lang nagtrabaho ng 2011 - 2019 at palipat lipat ka lang ng project?

Yes po. Sa accenture lang. ndeploy lang ako sa ibat ibang project. Usually 1-2 years ako ndedeploy. Yung karamihan sa managers ko matatanda na. Yung talagang mapapakiusapan ko lang is same age ko. Kaso nakawork ko lang sya from 2017-2019. Pwde bang sya n lang to certify na roles ang responsibilities ko?

The stat dec must be signed by someone who oversaw your work all through out the timeline you’re claiming.

Oh no, nagsubmit ako na yung supervisor is only covering 1 year of my 4 years 🙁
your stats dec start/end date should matched with your Cert of employment.
For my case, I have 2-3 projects within 4yrs of stay sa company, dun sa intro ng stats dec ko nakaindicate base sa Cert of employment, pero pagdating sa job description, kung ano ang pinakarecent.
I just let my supervisor na iverify muna nya ang content bago isign.

Opo, yung start/end day sa Stat Dec at CoE ko ay pareho.

Kaso yung CoE ng manager ko ay 1yr lang yung ncover nya kasi nalipat sya ng company. 😔

alegria0407

Hello, anyone who got their acs result recently? Gaano na ba siya katagal on average these days?

I submitted mine on June 24, until now "With Assessor" pa din status. I know 8-10 weeks sabi nilang SLA pero anyone who recently got their result before that?

_sebodemacho

@alegria0407 said:
Hello, anyone who got their acs result recently? Gaano na ba siya katagal on average these days?

I submitted mine on June 24, until now "With Assessor" pa din status. I know 8-10 weeks sabi nilang SLA pero anyone who recently got their result before that?

Got mine after 5wks, on 07 Jul.

joselle.sy

Hello po! Can someone please give any advice? 🙂

I am a Computer Engineering graduate from a local uni in Manila and I have been working as a Programmer/Dev for 3yrs and Software Engineer for 3yrs already (a total of 6yrs in the IT industry). I am planning of submitting an application 3 years from now under the Software Engineer skill. I was wondering if how many more years should I work as an SE so that I could have a better chance of having a successful assessment from ACS. Someone has mentioned that they deduct 5 yrs from the total work experience if you are a CoE grad (since the software dev work is not directly related to computer eng'g). I am also worried that there is a big chance that they will disregard my first work experience as a programmer because it doesn't fall under the Software Engineering category.

Would another 3 yrs be enough? (And also, I would be 31yrs old by then) 🙂

buchock

@"joselle.sy" said:
Hello po! Can someone please give any advice? 🙂
I am a Computer Engineering graduate from a local uni in Manila and I have been working as a Programmer/Dev for 3yrs and Software Engineer for 3yrs already (a total of 6yrs in the IT industry). I am planning of submitting an application 3 years from now under the Software Engineer skill. I was wondering if how many more years should I work as an SE so that I could have a better chance of having a successful assessment from ACS. Someone has mentioned that they deduct 5 yrs from the total work experience if you are a CoE grad (since the software dev work is not directly related to computer eng'g). I am also worried that there is a big chance that they will disregard my first work experience as a programmer because it doesn't fall under the Software Engineering category.

Would another 3 yrs be enough? (And also, I would be 31yrs old by then) 🙂

I don't agree because CoE ka e 5yrs agad deduction. Graduate din ako ng CoE at marked as Bachelor Degree by ACS, then my total work experienced deducted by 2yrs (lowest deduction) out of my 10yrs experince. Overall, suitable yung result with Bachelor Degree + 8yrs skilled work experience.

Hindi porket same ng course e dapat same din ang markings. Remember, each school may or may not have the same curriculum sa CoE. Another factor is, if your work experience is closely related to the Occupation Code na kiniclaim mo. Yung deduction dyan lang magbebase sa education at work experience. All of these are described sa ACS guidelines.

joselle.sy

@buchock said:

@"joselle.sy" said:
Hello po! Can someone please give any advice? 🙂
I am a Computer Engineering graduate from a local uni in Manila and I have been working as a Programmer/Dev for 3yrs and Software Engineer for 3yrs already (a total of 6yrs in the IT industry). I am planning of submitting an application 3 years from now under the Software Engineer skill. I was wondering if how many more years should I work as an SE so that I could have a better chance of having a successful assessment from ACS. Someone has mentioned that they deduct 5 yrs from the total work experience if you are a CoE grad (since the software dev work is not directly related to computer eng'g). I am also worried that there is a big chance that they will disregard my first work experience as a programmer because it doesn't fall under the Software Engineering category.

Would another 3 yrs be enough? (And also, I would be 31yrs old by then) 🙂
I don't agree because CoE ka e 5yrs agad deduction. Graduate din ako ng CoE at marked as Bachelor Degree by ACS, then my total work experienced deducted by 2yrs (lowest deduction) out of my 10yrs experince. Overall, suitable yung result with Bachelor Degree + 8yrs skilled work experience.
Hindi porket same ng course e dapat same din ang markings. Remember, each school may or may not have the same curriculum sa CoE. Another factor is, if your work experience is closely related to the Occupation Code na kiniclaim mo. Yung deduction dyan lang magbebase sa education at work experience. All of these are described sa ACS guidelines.

Thanks for answering!

I see po. But what if yung scenario ko po na first experience ko is programmer naman. Will it count?

buchock

@"joselle.sy" said:

@buchock said:

@"joselle.sy" said:
Hello po! Can someone please give any advice? 🙂
I am a Computer Engineering graduate from a local uni in Manila and I have been working as a Programmer/Dev for 3yrs and Software Engineer for 3yrs already (a total of 6yrs in the IT industry). I am planning of submitting an application 3 years from now under the Software Engineer skill. I was wondering if how many more years should I work as an SE so that I could have a better chance of having a successful assessment from ACS. Someone has mentioned that they deduct 5 yrs from the total work experience if you are a CoE grad (since the software dev work is not directly related to computer eng'g). I am also worried that there is a big chance that they will disregard my first work experience as a programmer because it doesn't fall under the Software Engineering category.

Would another 3 yrs be enough? (And also, I would be 31yrs old by then) 🙂

I don't agree because CoE ka e 5yrs agad deduction. Graduate din ako ng CoE at marked as Bachelor Degree by ACS, then my total work experienced deducted by 2yrs (lowest deduction) out of my 10yrs experince. Overall, suitable yung result with Bachelor Degree + 8yrs skilled work experience.

Hindi porket same ng course e dapat same din ang markings. Remember, each school may or may not have the same curriculum sa CoE. Another factor is, if your work experience is closely related to the Occupation Code na kiniclaim mo. Yung deduction dyan lang magbebase sa education at work experience. All of these are described sa ACS guidelines.
Thanks for answering!
I see po. But what if yung scenario ko po na first experience ko is programmer naman. Will it count?

It will depends with your Job description and duties. If the title is Programmer but the duties are not closely related with the Occupation you are claiming, then expect a bigger deduction. Most of the time, companies are providing generic Employment Certificate without job description and duties, you may need to provide Stats Declaration (indicate the tenure, your role and duties) then ask your leads/supervisor/manager to sign it.

WanderingWandering

Hi guys!

I got my assessment positive naman and nakuha ko lahat ng experience ko.

hehe eto sinubmit ko na documents all in all:

ITR (2 missing)

Payslips (4 years missing)

Company issued insurance

Certificate of employment(my COE has my salary declared)

Promotion letter(has salary declared on it)

All in all may 2 proof of payment ako per year excluding 2 years na 1 lang maprovide ko(which has only COE and promotion letter)

Di nako nag add nung screenshots sa website.

Sana makahelp to sa mga magaaply.

alegria0407

@WanderingWandering said:
Hi guys!

I got my assessment positive naman and nakuha ko lahat ng experience ko.
hehe eto sinubmit ko na documents all in all:
ITR (2 missing)
Payslips (4 years missing)
Company issued insurance
Certificate of employment(my COE has my salary declared)
Promotion letter(has salary declared on it)
All in all may 2 proof of payment ako per year excluding 2 years na 1 lang maprovide ko(which has only COE and promotion letter)
Di nako nag add nung screenshots sa website.
Sana makahelp to sa mga magaaply.

Hi @WanderingWandering kailan ka nagsubmit at kailan mo nakuha result mo?

alegria0407

@_sebodemacho said:

@alegria0407 said:
Hello, anyone who got their acs result recently? Gaano na ba siya katagal on average these days?

I submitted mine on June 24, until now "With Assessor" pa din status. I know 8-10 weeks sabi nilang SLA pero anyone who recently got their result before that?
Got mine after 5wks, on 07 Jul.

Hi @_sebodemacho kailan ka nagsubmit? Sana yung akin dumating na din soon hahaha

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