Australian Computer Society Skills Application

maixmyx

Hi, may nakaexperience na po ba na umabot hanggang Appeal for ACS? Gaano po katagal naging experience nyo sa response ng ACS?

I’m losing hope already given na no response pa din po.

Feb 2022 Initial submission with RPL

Apr 2022 response - didnt count some of my work experience

May 2022 Submitted Review

Aug 2022 Response - unsuitable

Jan 2023 Appeal (but i submitted docs to agent Oct 2022)

As of today May 2023 - no response yet

jinigirl

@charmeleon said:

@jinigirl said:
Panu pong naretain nila? nung ACS ba? Di kasi uso pagpaparenew sa ACS, kelangan mo magsubmit ulet ng new application and provide ng evidence.
Thanks po for the reply. Bale po since same email/acct po sa 2017 ACS assessment ko yung ginamit ko, pag magclick po ako ng new application lumalabas po yung details ko na sinubmit ko noon - pero yun po mali ang dates na lumalabas sa start/end date ng employment.
I don't think pwede mo pa sya maupdate eh, so maybe mas okay na gamit ka nalang ng new email para sa new application.

jinigirl

@maixmyx said:
Hi, may nakaexperience na po ba na umabot hanggang Appeal for ACS? Gaano po katagal naging experience nyo sa response ng ACS?

I’m losing hope already given na no response pa din po.
Feb 2022 Initial submission with RPL
Apr 2022 response - didnt count some of my work experience
May 2022 Submitted Review
Aug 2022 Response - unsuitable
Jan 2023 Appeal (but i submitted docs to agent Oct 2022)
As of today May 2023 - no response yet

Ako po, nakaranas na ng review and inabot ng 7 weeks yung review results. Ang question ko, kung Aug 2022 yung unsuitable, bakit Jan lang yung appeal? Sure daw ba na nasend ng agent yung appeal before 60 days? Sobrang busy din kasi ng ACS lately, kaya kung sobrang tagal, mas maganda na tawagan na sila.

igado

@igado said:

@jinigirl said:

@igado said:

@jinigirl said:

@igado said:
Hi, anyone here who has the same scenario as mine. I can procure bank statements from the bank, but they said they cant cite the employers name in the statements. Any workaround para maging acceptable sya to ACS?

wala bang ibang pwedeng payment evidence na isend? like payslips, sss/pagibig, ITR?

I'm a consultant/contractor so I pay my own SSS/Pagibig/Philhealth. The employer gives payslips for breakdowns with the companys name and mine but it's watermarked as not valid as official payslip. I still uploaded them, but seems ACS doesnt honor those so I only have my tax docs (2307) and bank statement as valid proofs.

so parang freelancer ka? may section sa ACS guidelines tungkol sa freelance:

Bank statements and / or official taxation records -- I guess kaya naman na isa lang dyan as long as may proof na freelancer ka talaga
Nice, I'll explore this area. I'm sort of freelancing kasi I provide my own official receipts to the company/employer that I'm working for. Will check this further, if hindi magconflict sa mga naprovide kong info sa application. Thanks @jinigirl

Finally got the result after 16 weeks. Bachelor degree (Minor) 6 years deducted exp. Didn't pursue the freelancing path as there was not enough time to get all supporting docs. Still thanks @jinigirl for helping us with our concerns here. I got a statdec instead for bank statements w/o employer's name, and supporting documents to back up the claim of payment evidence. Fortunately, all of my work experience were counted in.

pamelanikkaromero

Hello, Just wanted to get your insights.

Here's my background:

- I am a graduate of Bachelors Degree in IT in AMA Computer College
-I have a total of 7 years of Experience in Software/DevOps Engineer

Hindi ko pinursue mag paassess kasi:

-My school is in Section 2 and my degree is only equivalent to Diploma
-Diploma requires I think 5-6 years of experience and ACS will auto deduct pa na 2 years to it.
-ending, baka magkaroon ako ng negative na result.

Here's my plan:

-Take up Masters Degree in AU BUT I got an offer letter already which is Business and Project Management (and it's not really related to ICT), at gusto ko na sanang kunin kasi mura siya and I think attainable naman kasi meron naman ako dependent to work full time.

Questions:

After 2 years, Can I still take up a General skill assessment in ACS given my past working experience? pero ung qualification ko is equivalent na sa Higher Education since sa AU ko na ito aaralin?
If an employer will sponsor me, hypothetically, and they will hire me as Software/Devops. Am I still required to take an ACS assessment para magrant ako ng sponsor visa?

Salamat po sa tutugon.

lunarcat

@pamelanikkaromero said:
Hello, Just wanted to get your insights.
Here's my background:
-- I am a graduate of Bachelors Degree in IT in AMA Computer College
--I have a total of 7 years of Experience in Software/DevOps Engineer

Hindi ko pinursue mag paassess kasi:
--My school is in Section 2 and my degree is only equivalent to Diploma
--Diploma requires I think 5-6 years of experience and ACS will auto deduct pa na 2 years to it.
--ending, baka magkaroon ako ng negative na result.
Here's my plan:
--Take up Masters Degree in AU BUT I got an offer letter already which is Business and Project Management (and it's not really related to ICT), at gusto ko na sanang kunin kasi mura siya and I think attainable naman kasi meron naman ako dependent to work full time.
Questions:

After 2 years, Can I still take up a General skill assessment in ACS given my past working experience? pero ung qualification ko is equivalent na sa Higher Education since sa AU ko na ito aaralin?

If an employer will sponsor me, hypothetically, and they will hire me as Software/Devops. Am I still required to take an ACS assessment para magrant ako ng sponsor visa?
Salamat po sa tutugon.

Answering item #2 based on my experience- I did not undergo ACS Assessment when I was granted TSS 482 Medium, while my classmate who has the same nominated occupation and same visa stream undergone ACS Assessment. So I am not sure what are their basis.

RheaMARN1171933

@pamelanikkaromero said:
Hello, Just wanted to get your insights.
Here's my background:
-- I am a graduate of Bachelors Degree in IT in AMA Computer College
--I have a total of 7 years of Experience in Software/DevOps Engineer

Hindi ko pinursue mag paassess kasi:
--My school is in Section 2 and my degree is only equivalent to Diploma
--Diploma requires I think 5-6 years of experience and ACS will auto deduct pa na 2 years to it.
--ending, baka magkaroon ako ng negative na result.
Here's my plan:
--Take up Masters Degree in AU BUT I got an offer letter already which is Business and Project Management (and it's not really related to ICT), at gusto ko na sanang kunin kasi mura siya and I think attainable naman kasi meron naman ako dependent to work full time.
Questions:

After 2 years, Can I still take up a General skill assessment in ACS given my past working experience? pero ung qualification ko is equivalent na sa Higher Education since sa AU ko na ito aaralin?

If an employer will sponsor me, hypothetically, and they will hire me as Software/Devops. Am I still required to take an ACS assessment para magrant ako ng sponsor visa?
Salamat po sa tutugon.

1 you need to be very careful with this approach. Masters degree will only give you 5 additional points. It still doesn’t change your work experience claim nor resolve your concern about the possibility of getting a negative outcome due to insufficient experience. A lot of things can happen in that 2 years and the current policies may not be applicable by then. You mentioned the course isn’t related with IT, be mindful that when you apply for a student visa, you’ll need to justify why you want to do this course and prove to them that you will go back to your home country. The government is fully aware that a lot use student visa as a stepping stone to migrate to Australia. With the proposed changes in July, expect they will be stricter with student visas. There is a lot of uncertainty in this approach, not to mention the money you will spend. At the end of the day, you will have to ask yourself, is it all worth it for just extra 5 points? Vs staying in your job and continue to gain the relevant experience. You can get 5 points from CCL exam to compensate for your qualification from a section 2 institution. Note that because the masters isn’t related with IT, there’s no bearing at all with your skills assessment. And even if it’s related, it will be somehow tricky because the experience happened prior to the AQF degree qualification.

2this is so hypothetical - if you find a sponsor. No one really knows if you’ll find one and if so, there’s still no getting a way with skills assessment when you apply for PR eventually. You would rather take control of your chances/taking matters that you can control rather than waiting for something such as a sponsor in order to get there - if that makes sense 😉

audreams23

Hello po, Anyone who submitted their skills assessment in ACS last February? Naka-receive na po ba kayo ng outcome? It's been 12 weeks na, wala pang email na receive from them. Thank you.

RheaMARN1171933

@audreams23 said:
Hello po, Anyone who submitted their skills assessment in ACS last February? Naka-receive na po ba kayo ng outcome? It's been 12 weeks na, wala pang email na receive from them. Thank you.

When it’s beyond 12 weeks, that’s when we chase them up for results. Get in touch with them and query it

igado

@audreams23 said:
Hello po, Anyone who submitted their skills assessment in ACS last February? Naka-receive na po ba kayo ng outcome? It's been 12 weeks na, wala pang email na receive from them. Thank you.

@audreams23 said:
Hello po, Anyone who submitted their skills assessment in ACS last February? Naka-receive na po ba kayo ng outcome? It's been 12 weeks na, wala pang email na receive from them. Thank you.

Make sure to check your ACS dashboard kasi yung mga status changes are not notified via email. You'll only receive emails kung may request for additional docs si assessor or kung may result na. Mine took 16 weeks in total. Try to call their customer support, they'll give you the email address of the assessor that you can follow up with if nasa assessor na yung application. Also if you are in PH, better call them as early as 7am, thats 9am in Syd. Sa bandang hapon kasi inaabot minsan ng 30mins to 1hr on hold, and tumatakbo na yung intl call billing.

pamelanikkaromero

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@pamelanikkaromero said:
Hello, Just wanted to get your insights.
Here's my background:
-- I am a graduate of Bachelors Degree in IT in AMA Computer College
--I have a total of 7 years of Experience in Software/DevOps Engineer

Hindi ko pinursue mag paassess kasi:
--My school is in Section 2 and my degree is only equivalent to Diploma
--Diploma requires I think 5-6 years of experience and ACS will auto deduct pa na 2 years to it.
--ending, baka magkaroon ako ng negative na result.

Here's my plan:
--Take up Masters Degree in AU BUT I got an offer letter already which is Business and Project Management (and it's not really related to ICT), at gusto ko na sanang kunin kasi mura siya and I think attainable naman kasi meron naman ako dependent to work full time.

Questions:

After 2 years, Can I still take up a General skill assessment in ACS given my past working experience? pero ung qualification ko is equivalent na sa Higher Education since sa AU ko na ito aaralin?

If an employer will sponsor me, hypothetically, and they will hire me as Software/Devops. Am I still required to take an ACS assessment para magrant ako ng sponsor visa?

Salamat po sa tutugon.
1 you need to be very careful with this approach. Masters degree will only give you 5 additional points. It still doesn’t change your work experience claim nor resolve your concern about the possibility of getting a negative outcome due to insufficient experience. A lot of things can happen in that 2 years and the current policies may not be applicable by then. You mentioned the course isn’t related with IT, be mindful that when you apply for a student visa, you’ll need to justify why you want to do this course and prove to them that you will go back to your home country. The government is fully aware that a lot use student visa as a stepping stone to migrate to Australia. With the proposed changes in July, expect they will be stricter with student visas. There is a lot of uncertainty in this approach, not to mention the money you will spend. At the end of the day, you will have to ask yourself, is it all worth it for just extra 5 points? Vs staying in your job and continue to gain the relevant experience. You can get 5 points from CCL exam to compensate for your qualification from a section 2 institution. Note that because the masters isn’t related with IT, there’s no bearing at all with your skills assessment. And even if it’s related, it will be somehow tricky because the experience happened prior to the AQF degree qualification.
2this is so hypothetical - if you find a sponsor. No one really knows if you’ll find one and if so, there’s still no getting a way with skills assessment when you apply for PR eventually. You would rather take control of your chances/taking matters that you can control rather than waiting for something such as a sponsor in order to get there - if that makes sense 😉

Thank you sa insights :smile: Tama po, I can justify din ung course sa end ko kasi I am handling projects din. Mas mura kasi ito kesa Masters in IT/Software Engineering ang kunin ko. Anyway, tama po ba na total of 6 years lang ung dinededuct ni ACS?

RheaMARN1171933

@pamelanikkaromero said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@pamelanikkaromero said:
Hello, Just wanted to get your insights.
Here's my background:
-- I am a graduate of Bachelors Degree in IT in AMA Computer College
--I have a total of 7 years of Experience in Software/DevOps Engineer

Hindi ko pinursue mag paassess kasi:
--My school is in Section 2 and my degree is only equivalent to Diploma
--Diploma requires I think 5-6 years of experience and ACS will auto deduct pa na 2 years to it.
--ending, baka magkaroon ako ng negative na result.

Here's my plan:
--Take up Masters Degree in AU BUT I got an offer letter already which is Business and Project Management (and it's not really related to ICT), at gusto ko na sanang kunin kasi mura siya and I think attainable naman kasi meron naman ako dependent to work full time.

Questions:

After 2 years, Can I still take up a General skill assessment in ACS given my past working experience? pero ung qualification ko is equivalent na sa Higher Education since sa AU ko na ito aaralin?

If an employer will sponsor me, hypothetically, and they will hire me as Software/Devops. Am I still required to take an ACS assessment para magrant ako ng sponsor visa?

Salamat po sa tutugon.

1 you need to be very careful with this approach. Masters degree will only give you 5 additional points. It still doesn’t change your work experience claim nor resolve your concern about the possibility of getting a negative outcome due to insufficient experience. A lot of things can happen in that 2 years and the current policies may not be applicable by then. You mentioned the course isn’t related with IT, be mindful that when you apply for a student visa, you’ll need to justify why you want to do this course and prove to them that you will go back to your home country. The government is fully aware that a lot use student visa as a stepping stone to migrate to Australia. With the proposed changes in July, expect they will be stricter with student visas. There is a lot of uncertainty in this approach, not to mention the money you will spend. At the end of the day, you will have to ask yourself, is it all worth it for just extra 5 points? Vs staying in your job and continue to gain the relevant experience. You can get 5 points from CCL exam to compensate for your qualification from a section 2 institution. Note that because the masters isn’t related with IT, there’s no bearing at all with your skills assessment. And even if it’s related, it will be somehow tricky because the experience happened prior to the AQF degree qualification.

2this is so hypothetical - if you find a sponsor. No one really knows if you’ll find one and if so, there’s still no getting a way with skills assessment when you apply for PR eventually. You would rather take control of your chances/taking matters that you can control rather than waiting for something such as a sponsor in order to get there - if that makes sense 😉
Thank you sa insights :smile: Tama po, I can justify din ung course sa end ko kasi I am handling projects din. Mas mura kasi ito kesa Masters in IT/Software Engineering ang kunin ko. Anyway, tama po ba na total of 6 years lang ung dinededuct ni ACS?

As per their guideline, yes but sometimes that’s also not always the case, depends how you I resent your evidences.

I’m not really a fan of student visa as a pathway to PR despite the fact that I’m a product of it.

All the best and hope you’ll be able to figure out the right path for you 👍

nicbag

Need help regarding EOI... Sa ACS kasi d tinagap yung 1st 3 companies... 0 years experience...

So dito sa EOI, aalisin ko ba dapat yung 1st 3 companies?

RheaMARN1171933

@nicbag said:
Need help regarding EOI... Sa ACS kasi d tinagap yung 1st 3 companies... 0 years experience...
So dito sa EOI, aalisin ko ba dapat yung 1st 3 companies?

Follow the assessment outcome otherwise you’ll be overclaiming

nicbag

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@nicbag said:
Need help regarding EOI... Sa ACS kasi d tinagap yung 1st 3 companies... 0 years experience...
So dito sa EOI, aalisin ko ba dapat yung 1st 3 companies?

Follow the assessment outcome otherwise you’ll be overclaiming

oks manoks. maraming salamat.

RheaMARN1171933

@nicbag said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@nicbag said:
Need help regarding EOI... Sa ACS kasi d tinagap yung 1st 3 companies... 0 years experience...
So dito sa EOI, aalisin ko ba dapat yung 1st 3 companies?

Follow the assessment outcome otherwise you’ll be overclaiming
oks manoks. maraming salamat.

Declare the last 10 years but only claim the ones recognised by acs

nicbag

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@nicbag said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@nicbag said:
Need help regarding EOI... Sa ACS kasi d tinagap yung 1st 3 companies... 0 years experience...
So dito sa EOI, aalisin ko ba dapat yung 1st 3 companies?

Follow the assessment outcome otherwise you’ll be overclaiming

oks manoks. maraming salamat.
Declare the last 10 years but only claim the ones recognised by acs

Oh, Pano po ginagawa yan? Yung iba yung declare and iba yung claim?

nicbag

oks na pla.. kelangan lang pala i no yung sa related employment. Thanks @RheaMARN1171933 !

audreams23

Hello, It's been 12 weeks and no results yet, so I called ACS earlier today, walang sumasagot sa phone, ring lang sya ng ring, at nabawasan pa phone load ko 100 pesos kahit walang sumasagot hehehe. Try ko nalang to follow up for an email. Do they reply promptly?

nicbag

@audreams23 said:
Hello, It's been 12 weeks and no results yet, so I called ACS earlier today, walang sumasagot sa phone, ring lang sya ng ring, at nabawasan pa phone load ko 100 pesos kahit walang sumasagot hehehe. Try ko nalang to follow up for an email. Do they reply promptly?

Yung sakin inabot ng 14 weeks. Sinubmit ko yung sakin 1st week of Feb, kahapon lang dumating (positive).

Intay2 lang bru, darating din yan 😉

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