Australian Computer Society Skills Application

Untouchab1e

@jmcounters said:

@Untouchab1e said:

@jmcounters said:

@jaycata_11 said:

@jmcounters said:

@jaycata_11 said:
Hi all, question. Yung company ko (Accenture) says na hindi sila nagpprovide ng specific role and other info required sa employment reference letter. Kailangan ko na ba magresort to request for Statutory Declarations and Affidavits? Ayoko sana magresort sa ganon kasi parang additional na bayad para lang papirmahan sa representative ng Australian Forein Affairs and sa boss ko. Or baka may nakaexp na ng company na hindi nagpprovide ng required details, if so then please please help kung ano yung process na ginawa nyo. Thanks in Advance!

Hi! Ex-ccenture din here. When you request non-standard COE that indicates job descriptions, they usually issue you a certification na hindi ka nila mabibigyan, along with some requirements in case that certification won't really do, like embassy letter or guideline stating na dapat COE with job description talaga. Sa akin, ayaw mag sign ng affidavit ng previous TL ko kasi pinagbawalan ng HR so I had to explore yung other option na binigay nila. Since hindi naman embassy si ACS, I informed them of that and provided yung ACS guideline for the employment reference. That, plus list of job description na ipinapalagay ko sa COE and approval ng Manager(previous TL) or anyone na higher. Need nila mag vouch dun sa job description essentially. Ayon, na-issuehan ako ng COE with those job descriptions.

ok noted po. bali mageemail muna sa TL or manager for approval sa nirerequest ko na info sa employment reference, tapos mageemail sa HR requesting yung requirement sa ACS guideline and attaching the email na approved ng manager/TL?

This was my initial email with them:

Then they sent me this:

Tapos as indicated sa last comment ko, here are the steps lang para clearer:
a. Ask your TL for an approval of the job descriptions. Attach the email approval in the response to HR. Tip: Sync your gmail with mail client like Outlook so you can export the email easily.
b. Respond to HR with the approval email, ACS guideline and explanation of why a certificate of explanation for non-issuance can't meet the requirements and insist on the need to indicate the details requested.

Hello, for Letter B. po ano po yung prinovide nyo na ACS guideline and explanation? thanks po

There used to be a "Skills Assessment Guidelines for Applicants" in PDF format pero parang wala na ngayon yon. Here's what I found na pwede alternative:
https://www.acs.org.au/msa/infohub.html - this and refer them to head to https://www.acs.org.au/msa/infohub/employment-references.html
Or https://www.acs.org.au/content/dam/acs/msa/documents/GeneralSkills-DocumentChecklist.pdf and point them to page 2 where you're pointed to https://www.acs.org.au/msa/infohub/employment-references.html as well.

Hello po, thanks for the reply. Ask ko lang po dito sa:

Manager's Approval for the Job Description. Drafted Job Description should be attached in the response (email approval of previous leads Level 7 and above).
> tama po ba need i-attach ni Manager yung JD file with the approval? and ok lang po ba na personal email gamitin ni manager?

midNightSun123

@casssie said:

@Aki_611 said:
Hi everyone! New member here, I'd like to ask for your insights based on the following credentials:
School: STI College - Section 3
Course: BSIT
Work Experience: Software Tester - 4 years (2 different companies)

I'm planning to get assessed for 261314 - Software Tester, here are my questions:

How many years of experience will ASC deduct?

Will I be required to submit an RPL report?

Can I still get points on educational qualifications if my school is under Section 3?

Is there any chance of getting a positive skill assessment?

Thank you po sa makakasagot 🙂
hi, BSIT-section 3 grad here!

ACS deducted 6 yrs on my work exp - masakit mhie! 😭

no

yes, AQF diploma = 10 pts

di ako sure.. if 6 yrs yung deduction, kulang pa yung exp mo. but im not an ACS assessor, so try to submit pa din or wait for others' input on this.
iirc, the only way for a section 3 to equate to a bachelor's degree is dapat may license. sadly, wala nun sa IT course.

Hi, @"Cassie " .

Question. How many points naclaim mo in offshore work exp given that ACS deducted 6 years?

Were you able to proceed with your EOI/Visa application? And what's your overall total points after the ACS assessment?

Curious lang since I am also a BSIT graduate form a Section 3 school. 🥲

casssie

aloo @midNightSun123 !

10 pts - work exp

10 pts - education

work exp and education pts down the drain 😭

my EOI was not invited. my total pts for 190 is 75 pts (70+5)

jmcounters

@Untouchab1e said:

@jmcounters said:

@Untouchab1e said:

@jmcounters said:

@jaycata_11 said:

@jmcounters said:

@jaycata_11 said:
Hi all, question. Yung company ko (Accenture) says na hindi sila nagpprovide ng specific role and other info required sa employment reference letter. Kailangan ko na ba magresort to request for Statutory Declarations and Affidavits? Ayoko sana magresort sa ganon kasi parang additional na bayad para lang papirmahan sa representative ng Australian Forein Affairs and sa boss ko. Or baka may nakaexp na ng company na hindi nagpprovide ng required details, if so then please please help kung ano yung process na ginawa nyo. Thanks in Advance!

Hi! Ex-ccenture din here. When you request non-standard COE that indicates job descriptions, they usually issue you a certification na hindi ka nila mabibigyan, along with some requirements in case that certification won't really do, like embassy letter or guideline stating na dapat COE with job description talaga. Sa akin, ayaw mag sign ng affidavit ng previous TL ko kasi pinagbawalan ng HR so I had to explore yung other option na binigay nila. Since hindi naman embassy si ACS, I informed them of that and provided yung ACS guideline for the employment reference. That, plus list of job description na ipinapalagay ko sa COE and approval ng Manager(previous TL) or anyone na higher. Need nila mag vouch dun sa job description essentially. Ayon, na-issuehan ako ng COE with those job descriptions.

ok noted po. bali mageemail muna sa TL or manager for approval sa nirerequest ko na info sa employment reference, tapos mageemail sa HR requesting yung requirement sa ACS guideline and attaching the email na approved ng manager/TL?

This was my initial email with them:

Then they sent me this:

Tapos as indicated sa last comment ko, here are the steps lang para clearer:
a. Ask your TL for an approval of the job descriptions. Attach the email approval in the response to HR. Tip: Sync your gmail with mail client like Outlook so you can export the email easily.
b. Respond to HR with the approval email, ACS guideline and explanation of why a certificate of explanation for non-issuance can't meet the requirements and insist on the need to indicate the details requested.

Hello, for Letter B. po ano po yung prinovide nyo na ACS guideline and explanation? thanks po

There used to be a "Skills Assessment Guidelines for Applicants" in PDF format pero parang wala na ngayon yon. Here's what I found na pwede alternative:

https://www.acs.org.au/msa/infohub.html - this and refer them to head to https://www.acs.org.au/msa/infohub/employment-references.html

Or https://www.acs.org.au/content/dam/acs/msa/documents/GeneralSkills-DocumentChecklist.pdf and point them to page 2 where you're pointed to https://www.acs.org.au/msa/infohub/employment-references.html as well.
Hello po, thanks for the reply. Ask ko lang po dito sa:

Manager's Approval for the Job Description. Drafted Job Description should be attached in the response (email approval of previous leads Level 7 and above).
-> tama po ba need i-attach ni Manager yung JD file with the approval? and ok lang po ba na personal email gamitin ni manager?

Sa email mo kay Manager dapat naka-attach na don yung JD file tapos pag nagrespond sya, yung thread na yun ang ieexport/save mo para capture pati yung attachment mong JD. Yun ang isesend mo kay HR. Tapos dapat work email ni manager kasi dapat in his official capacity yun since HR ni accenture yung tatanggap ng approval nya.

midNightSun123

@casssie said:
aloo @midNightSun123 !

10 pts - work exp
10 pts - education
work exp and education pts down the drain 😭
my EOI was not invited. my total pts for 190 is 75 pts (70+5)

luge naman mga nasa Section 3 school hays whahaha

Thanks @"Cassie "!

Will try get a skill assessment from ACS and see what will be the result. 🥲😭

casssie

@midNightSun123 said:

@casssie said:
aloo @midNightSun123 !

10 pts - work exp
10 pts - education
work exp and education pts down the drain 😭

my EOI was not invited. my total pts for 190 is 75 pts (70+5)

luge naman mga nasa Section 3 school hays whahaha
Thanks @"Cassie "!
Will try get a skill assessment from ACS and see what will be the result. 🥲😭

oo, double kill agad hahahaha

good luck! bawi ka na lang sa ibang criteria

deejaygeekout

Hi, for my case nagsara yung start up company, is there a way I can claim and provide evidence for those experiences? may nag kaganitong case na ba dito. sayang kasi 5 years experience ko dun

mathilde9

@deejaygeekout said:
Hi, for my case nagsara yung start up company, is there a way I can claim and provide evidence for those experiences? may nag kaganitong case na ba dito. sayang kasi 5 years experience ko dun

Reach our to you former supervisor and discuss the possibility of supporting you through a statutory declaration. I hope you managed to keep some payment evidences from this company.

straycat

Question lang po regarding Employment Reference for Ex-ccenture employees. I've just seen that pwede na pala sila magbigay ng non-standard COE, does that mean na hindi na pwede magsubmit ng affidavit sa ACS?

Just in case pwede pa ang affidavit, nakalagay kasi sa ACS guidelines ito:

Statutory Declarations or Affidavits will be assessed as NOT SUITABLE when:

they do NOT contain words to the effect Sworn Before, Signed Before or Witnessed Before

Nakalagay sa copy ng affidavit ko is SUBCRIBED AND SWORN lang, acceptable na ba yun or strict talaga sila pagdating sa part na to?

mathilde9

@straycat said:
Question lang po regarding Employment Reference for Ex-ccenture employees. I've just seen that pwede na pala sila magbigay ng non-standard COE, does that mean na hindi na pwede magsubmit ng affidavit sa ACS?
Just in case pwede pa ang affidavit, nakalagay kasi sa ACS guidelines ito:

Statutory Declarations or Affidavits will be assessed as NOT SUITABLE when:
they do NOT contain words to the effect Sworn Before, Signed Before or Witnessed Before
Nakalagay sa copy ng affidavit ko is SUBCRIBED AND SWORN lang, acceptable na ba yun or strict talaga sila pagdating sa part na to?

Should be acceptable. Just don't take it word for word. Ganyan din sakin okay naman.

straycat

@mathilde9 said:

@straycat said:
Question lang po regarding Employment Reference for Ex-ccenture employees. I've just seen that pwede na pala sila magbigay ng non-standard COE, does that mean na hindi na pwede magsubmit ng affidavit sa ACS?
Just in case pwede pa ang affidavit, nakalagay kasi sa ACS guidelines ito:

Statutory Declarations or Affidavits will be assessed as NOT SUITABLE when:
they do NOT contain words to the effect Sworn Before, Signed Before or Witnessed Before

Nakalagay sa copy ng affidavit ko is SUBCRIBED AND SWORN lang, acceptable na ba yun or strict talaga sila pagdating sa part na to?
Should be acceptable. Just don't take it word for word. Ganyan din sakin okay naman.

That's good to know. Thank you!

neralpas

Good morning. Regarding po dun sa employment reference, nagmessage sila sakin na need daw po yung company website. Saan niyo po nilagay? Wala po kasi dun sa sample nila - https://www.acs.org.au/msa/infohub/employment-references.html Para sure lang po na tama ipapasa ko. Thank you.

casssie

@neralpas said:
Good morning. Regarding po dun sa employment reference, nagmessage sila sakin na need daw po yung company website. Saan niyo po nilagay? Wala po kasi dun sa sample nila - https://www.acs.org.au/msa/infohub/employment-references.html Para sure lang po na tama ipapasa ko. Thank you.

usually its under the contact details.

parang ganito

T : (02) 123 123

W : www.company.com

i think kahit san part nakalagay, ang importante may makita silang company website sa letter mo

MaceyV

casssie hello! tanong ko lang po paano if nag close na ung company, di ko na din ma access ung company website namin, paano po kaya un ilalagay sa COE ko kasi nirequire nila na may website eh.

iroi3

Hi everyone! Good day! I'm new here seeking tips + suggestions to help me in pursuing Australia.

About me:

Age: 28yrs old

Educ: BS in Computer Engineering - Section 1 School

Work: 5yrs of experience - Technology Specialist/ Application Support-Automation

midNightSun123

@jmcounters said:

@mathilde9 said:

@Iggyyyyy said:
ACS Migration Skills Assessment - Payslip Questions

Hello! I’ve checked the new guidelines regarding Payment Evidence. For the payslip, they need to have the following: 1) Employer name, address, and logo, 2) Start and end periods for the payment, 3) Salary or wages, 4) Tax, 5) Your name, 6) Your job title, 7) Your work address.

Some of my payslips don’t have item 6, and some lack item 7. Has anyone tried submitting those kinds of payslips? Were you still assessed by the ACS?

Hindi ko alam if strict sila sa new process ngayon. I can confirm may iba akong payslips without item7 pero okay naman assessment ko. Isubmit mo nalang din since yun lang naman talaga content ng payslip mo. Wala naman mawawala kung issubmit.

Hoping that those assessed positively by ACS on the new system can share.

@Iggyyyyy said:
ACS Migration Skills Assessment - Payslip Questions

Hello! I’ve checked the new guidelines regarding Payment Evidence. For the payslip, they need to have the following: 1) Employer name, address, and logo, 2) Start and end periods for the payment, 3) Salary or wages, 4) Tax, 5) Your name, 6) Your job title, 7) Your work address.

Some of my payslips don’t have item 6, and some lack item 7. Has anyone tried submitting those kinds of payslips? Were you still assessed by the ACS?

@mathilde9 said:
@Iggyyyyy said:
ACS Migration Skills Assessment - Payslip Questions

Hello! I’ve checked the new guidelines regarding Payment Evidence. For the payslip, they need to have the following: 1) Employer name, address, and logo, 2) Start and end periods for the payment, 3) Salary or wages, 4) Tax, 5) Your name, 6) Your job title, 7) Your work address.

Some of my payslips don’t have item 6, and some lack item 7. Has anyone tried submitting those kinds of payslips? Were you still assessed by the ACS?

Hindi ko alam if strict sila sa new process ngayon. I can confirm may iba akong payslips without item7 pero okay naman assessment ko. Isubmit mo nalang din since yun lang naman talaga content ng payslip mo. Wala naman mawawala kung issubmit.

Hoping that those assessed positively by ACS on the new system can share.
Not with the new system but I provided all payment evidence that I can come up with. After all, mahirap maperfect yung hinahanap nila kasi iba iba per company. Your other payment evidence should strengthen your claim that it was a paid work episode.

Hi, @Iggyyyyy @jmcounters.

Were you able to get a positive outcome?

Same concern here. My payslips from the different companies I've worked for didn't have the 6) job title & 7) work address. 😅

Iggyyyyy

Hello @midNightSun123 . Not yet, as I'm still collecting my documents. But, from what I've checked and researched on other platforms, some people had the same problem as us, and they were still assessed with a positive outcome.

Sabi ng iba, for stronger proof, we can add the SSS. So, it will be Payslip, Bank Statement, ITR, and SSS (contributions screenshot).

midNightSun123

@Iggyyyyy said:
Hello @midNightSun123 . Not yet, as I'm still collecting my documents. But, from what I've checked and researched on other platforms, some people had the same problem as us, and they were still assessed with a positive outcome.

Sabi ng iba, for stronger proof, we can add the SSS. So, it will be Payslip, Bank Statement, ITR, and SSS (contributions screenshot).

@Iggyyyyy! Ohhh I see. Thanks for the response! I'm also still in the collection stage. 🙂

Hoping you get a positive outcome soon!

samcham

Hello, may nakapagpa-assessment na po ba dito using the new/updated guidelines ng ACS? Kamusta po ang results nung sainyo po? 🙂 Kindly share your experience.

jmcounters

@midNightSun123 said:

@jmcounters said:

@mathilde9 said:

@Iggyyyyy said:
ACS Migration Skills Assessment - Payslip Questions

Hello! I’ve checked the new guidelines regarding Payment Evidence. For the payslip, they need to have the following: 1) Employer name, address, and logo, 2) Start and end periods for the payment, 3) Salary or wages, 4) Tax, 5) Your name, 6) Your job title, 7) Your work address.

Some of my payslips don’t have item 6, and some lack item 7. Has anyone tried submitting those kinds of payslips? Were you still assessed by the ACS?

Hindi ko alam if strict sila sa new process ngayon. I can confirm may iba akong payslips without item7 pero okay naman assessment ko. Isubmit mo nalang din since yun lang naman talaga content ng payslip mo. Wala naman mawawala kung issubmit.

Hoping that those assessed positively by ACS on the new system can share.

@Iggyyyyy said:
ACS Migration Skills Assessment - Payslip Questions

Hello! I’ve checked the new guidelines regarding Payment Evidence. For the payslip, they need to have the following: 1) Employer name, address, and logo, 2) Start and end periods for the payment, 3) Salary or wages, 4) Tax, 5) Your name, 6) Your job title, 7) Your work address.

Some of my payslips don’t have item 6, and some lack item 7. Has anyone tried submitting those kinds of payslips? Were you still assessed by the ACS?

@mathilde9 said:

@Iggyyyyy said:
ACS Migration Skills Assessment - Payslip Questions

Hello! I’ve checked the new guidelines regarding Payment Evidence. For the payslip, they need to have the following: 1) Employer name, address, and logo, 2) Start and end periods for the payment, 3) Salary or wages, 4) Tax, 5) Your name, 6) Your job title, 7) Your work address.

Some of my payslips don’t have item 6, and some lack item 7. Has anyone tried submitting those kinds of payslips? Were you still assessed by the ACS?

Hindi ko alam if strict sila sa new process ngayon. I can confirm may iba akong payslips without item7 pero okay naman assessment ko. Isubmit mo nalang din since yun lang naman talaga content ng payslip mo. Wala naman mawawala kung issubmit.

Hoping that those assessed positively by ACS on the new system can share.

Not with the new system but I provided all payment evidence that I can come up with. After all, mahirap maperfect yung hinahanap nila kasi iba iba per company. Your other payment evidence should strengthen your claim that it was a paid work episode.
Hi, @Iggyyyyy @jmcounters.
Were you able to get a positive outcome?
Same concern here. My payslips from the different companies I've worked for didn't have the 6) job title & 7) work address. 😅

Yes, I got a positive outcome. I provided bank statements, payslips, ITR (kulang kulang), SSS, PAGIBIG and Philhealth contribution.

chingu

Hello po, pano po kaya kung yung supervisor ko na gagawa ng stat declaration sa previous company ko is iba na yung current role? Tatanggalin pa kaya sya ng ACS? Anyone with the same experience? Paano po yung ginawa nyo? Umalis na kasi talaga lahat ng colleagues ko dun sa company and the only one left was my supervisor.

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