Dubai vs. Australia

jkk32w

<blockquote rel="Gft_SG">I never worked in Dubai but me and my wife worked in Singapore. I worked in oil and gas and nasa construction management naman si misis. Big pay, savings and career...yes we had it...but why move to Australia. ito lang rason namin....you can never call dubai/singapore your home. You will never have the same right as the locals because you are a foreign worker. That country accepted you only for temporary basis.... Actually in Singapore may chance ka pa maging citizen, pero kahit citizen kana doon, hindi pa rin integrated ang pinoy sa mga local. Did i miss the savings, shopping, fine dine, expensive watches and bags, overseas trips???????? Nope. How can i if I dont have to share a flat, work life balance, freedom to speak my mind and an accepting community...End of the day for me, what matters most is the quality of life I live.

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well said. Goodpoints! congrats on ur move to AU! I would also prefer to have a 'better' quality of living on top of all benefits that needs to be considered. Everythin else is temporary n life- shopping, salary, residency, citizenship- but u only live once, might as well live comftably 🙂

wizardofOz

Na-recall ko, dati SG was the land of opportunity for most professional Filipinos, now parang lahat ng Pinoy na kakilala ko gusto nang umalis ng SG dahil sa mga alam na nating kadahilanan...

Sa tingin ko lang naman, ganyan din ang mangyayari sa mga kababayan natin sa Dubai, everything will get saturated to the point where alam na natin ang susunod na mangyayari...

We live for the now, but plan for the future ika nga.. do you like to see your children and grandchildren and subsequent generations of yours living in Dubai... what future do you see for them?

jkk32w

<blockquote rel="wizardofOz">Na-recall ko, dati SG was the land of opportunity for most professional Filipinos, now parang lahat ng Pinoy na kakilala ko gusto nang umalis ng SG dahil sa mga alam na nating kadahilanan...

Sa tingin ko lang naman, ganyan din ang mangyayari sa mga kababayan natin sa Dubai, everything will get saturated to the point where alam na natin ang susunod na mangyayari...

We live for the now, but plan for the future ika nga.. do you like to see your children and grandchildren and subsequent generations of yours living in Dubai... what future do you see for them?</blockquote>

strongly agree.. i think most of us who decided to migrate is for long term purposes. kung san greener ang 'grass' dun tau why settle for something less. but again, iba iba tau ng definition ng 'greener pasture'. what i noticed is most of us in this forum, gusto ng better opportunity in a land na mas ok ang benefits both short and long term wise..yung iba na d discourage sa malaking tax, but i feel kahit san ka mag work wd or wdout tax, u shud only look at ur net income, ur savings habit and d investment opportunities you embrace a long d way pra nman indi forever nka depende lg sa isang source of income. it will always boil down on how much u save and invest and not how much u earn.

i just hope Au will continue to welcome migrants pra mas marami pa mabgyan ng better future na hindi makuha sa ibang place 🙂

jkk32w

Sana may mas marami pa inputs in this thread 😃

QQ21

Lived 9 years in Dubai, now living in Sydney. Single, and so probably seeing things differently. If take home pay is your top priority then in most cases Dubai far outranks Australia. Here I'm earning only 60% of what I was getting in Dubai, minus tax so that's easily less than half. But here I'm happier, I feel safer, I'm more relaxed, and life just feels better generally - I feel I get to live longer here (kasi $25 ang yosi madaling iwasan hahaha). In the end, it boils down to your values system as an individual, what you hold important in life. Don't get me wrong, although single/no kids I've been like a parent all this time trying to support a family back home, so it's not like I don't value $$$. But you just got to trust it's all going to be fine.

Mga "ex-Dubai" people kitakits naman jan ^_^

jkk32w

<blockquote rel="QQ21">Lived 9 years in Dubai, now living in Sydney. Single, and so probably seeing things differently. If take home pay is your top priority then in most cases Dubai far outranks Australia. Here I'm earning only 60% of what I was getting in Dubai, minus tax so that's easily less than half. But here I'm happier, I feel safer, I'm more relaxed, and life just feels better generally - I feel I get to live longer here (kasi $25 ang yosi madaling iwasan hahaha). In the end, it boils down to your values system as an individual, what you hold important in life. Don't get me wrong, although single/no kids I've been like a parent all this time trying to support a family back home, so it's not like I don't value $$$. But you just got to trust it's all going to be fine.

Mga "ex-Dubai" people kitakits naman jan ^_^</blockquote>

wow thank u for sharing! 😃 9yrs narin kami sa Dubai at decided na kami indi mag isang dekada dito hehe. wla kami malaking expectations in terms of salary..like how we started here hindi nmn yan agad agad madali but since we want to raise our kid there and we are convinced na its a BETTER place to live then i think ur experience is a living example na kung ang mprtante is ung factor na ul feel more relaxed, valued and happier.. then no dubai salary can equate that 😃 comfort zone narin kc dito for ilang yrs..maiba nmn ..ibang challenge nmn , ibang opportunity to grow and live bsta may long term benefit 😃

gusto rin namin ma meet ang ex uae or ex dubai dyan sa AU. soon ha 😃

QQ21

@jkk32w Ah nanjan pa pala kayo, yeah make the move already! 🙂 I had my PR in 2009, I almost maxed out the 5-year window, finally moved to Sydney 3 days prior to my PR expiring hahaha! I didn't have any doubts, my mind was made up: Australia it is. I stayed back in Dubai for different reasons which are an entirely different story, kukuwento ko sayo pag dito ka na hehehe 🙂 Let's keep in touch. Nakaka miss din ang Dubai, especially looking out to the lakes and Marina from my office on the 40th floor @ JLT. Dito eh nasa ground floor lang office ko hehehe, pero mas maigi nang ganun, madali ang pag labas-pasok. You're absolutely right about giving your family a future here. Colleague ko sa Dubai din and her husband naglipat dito last year, they have 2 kids and from what I hear from them it is far better here for them as a family. Let me know if I can be of any help at all, ok?

TasBurrfoot

<blockquote rel="QQ21">@jkk32w Ah nanjan pa pala kayo, yeah make the move already! 🙂 I had my PR in 2009, I almost maxed out the 5-year window, finally moved to Sydney 3 days prior to my PR expiring hahaha! I didn't have any doubts, my mind was made up: Australia it is. I stayed back in Dubai for different reasons which are an entirely different story, kukuwento ko sayo pag dito ka na hehehe 🙂 Let's keep in touch. Nakaka miss din ang Dubai, especially looking out to the lakes and Marina from my office on the 40th floor @ JLT. Dito eh nasa ground floor lang office ko hehehe, pero mas maigi nang ganun, madali ang pag labas-pasok. You're absolutely right about giving your family a future here. Colleague ko sa Dubai din and her husband naglipat dito last year, they have 2 kids and from what I hear from them it is far better here for them as a family. Let me know if I can be of any help at all, ok? </blockquote>

Sir Mike! 🙂

jkk32w

wow good for u.isang taon nlng citizen kana. moving this year na..mejo ma trabaho lng ang transition kc need tapusin ang contract sa bahay..then may mga gamit pa need i liquidate.

glad to know may m meetkami taga dubai before.. and yes looking forward for ur kwento 😃 sana marami pa tau ma meet dyan na ex dubai/uae. laki na ng improvement ng dubai now ang daming developments..pero we will always be expats here. our colleague who works in the same position as ours and holds a 'better' passport earns twice as we do..ayoko gnyan ma experience ng anak ko soon..and of course education is way way overpriced ..not worth the stay tlaga.. na miss mo pala ang view sa JLT.. well...for sure mas better ang view mo dyan on a diff angle 😃

i will PM u f may questions ako sa transition hehe. Godbless sir! 😃

piglet24

oi! active pa pala ito? uhmmm... in pa din ba ang ex-AUH? I miss the desert...and the pampered life. but, we have to think about the future kaya gora ditto sa Sydney. Sayang yung years na nagstay tayo sa UAE na di namn tayo magiging resident. forever expat. pwede po bang makijoin sa mga ex UAE na meet-up?

jkk32w

<blockquote rel="piglet24">oi! active pa pala ito? uhmmm... in pa din ba ang ex-AUH? I miss the desert...and the pampered life. but, we have to think about the future kaya gora ditto sa Sydney. Sayang yung years na nagstay tayo sa UAE na di namn tayo magiging resident. forever expat. pwede po bang makijoin sa mga ex UAE na meet-up? </blockquote>

hello sis! Of course join us! 😃 kmusta dyan sa sydney? at least andyan na kau. dnio na ma raranasan ang 50deg summer dito ahaha. i know mas mahal dyan but im confident mas magging happy tau dyan 😃 keep n touch sis!

piglet24

thanks! Sydney life takes a lot of adjusting...may pros and cons. and minsan di maiwasan mamiss ang buhay disyerto. basta move forward lang. see you when you guys land here!

TasBurrfoot

<blockquote rel="piglet24">thanks! Sydney life takes a lot of adjusting...may pros and cons. and minsan di maiwasan mamiss ang buhay disyerto. basta move forward lang. see you when you guys land here!</blockquote>

Am curious on what is there to miss @piglet24? 🙂

QQ21

<blockquote rel="TasBurrfoot"><blockquote rel="piglet24">thanks! Sydney life takes a lot of adjusting...may pros and cons. and minsan di maiwasan mamiss ang buhay disyerto. basta move forward lang. see you when you guys land here!</blockquote>

Am curious on what is there to miss @piglet24? 🙂</blockquote>

JM! In fairness, there is a lot to miss about the desert lol. It's a fantasy land in many ways, so you're literally living the dream there haha.

<blockquote rel="TasBurrfoot"><blockquote rel="QQ21">@jkk32w Ah nanjan pa pala kayo, yeah make the move already! 🙂 I had my PR in 2009, I almost maxed out the 5-year window, finally moved to Sydney 3 days prior to my PR expiring hahaha! I didn't have any doubts, my mind was made up: Australia it is. I stayed back in Dubai for different reasons which are an entirely different story, kukuwento ko sayo pag dito ka na hehehe 🙂 Let's keep in touch. Nakaka miss din ang Dubai, especially looking out to the lakes and Marina from my office on the 40th floor @ JLT. Dito eh nasa ground floor lang office ko hehehe, pero mas maigi nang ganun, madali ang pag labas-pasok. You're absolutely right about giving your family a future here. Colleague ko sa Dubai din and her husband naglipat dito last year, they have 2 kids and from what I hear from them it is far better here for them as a family. Let me know if I can be of any help at all, ok? </blockquote>

Sir Mike! 🙂</blockquote>

JM! ^_^

QQ21

@jkk32w no, citizenship takes a back seat. Simula ulit ng pagbilang. Time spent overseas was close to 5 years, so hindi counted yun ^_^ Some people just don't know their priorities haha! Msg me when you guys move here 🙂

aprildelarosa

Im actually torn between middle east and australia--- naiisip ko ung money na pwede ko agad kitain s kung sa middle east ako pupunta-- pero kung eventually pupunta din naman ako sa OZ why not now? ugh!--i'll keep praying for this.

QQ21

<blockquote rel="aprildelarosa">Im actually torn between middle east and australia--- naiisip ko ung money na pwede ko agad kitain s kung sa middle east ako pupunta-- pero kung eventually pupunta din naman ako sa OZ why not now? ugh!--i'll keep praying for this.</blockquote>

Obviously I don't know your circumstances. If you have the capability to make it to Australia via the skilled migrant stream, I'd say you can't be wrong with pursuing it. It's a no-brainer. But if you believe you need to prepare for it more, e.g. save up more $$, enhance your work experience (either more years or better role, etc), improve your qualifications (e.g. further studies, online courses, etc), the Middle East can definitely be a good venue for you to prepare yourself. In a prior comment I mentioned that generally the take home pay in Dubai (or the Middle East for that matter) is much higher than in Australia, depending of course on your occupation, your level of experience and qualification, your location even -- basically your overall competitive advantage in the job market. However, it doesn't matter how long you have been living there: your status will always be as a foreigner/expatriate. This means, among others, that you can only rent an apartment and not buy it, your children will attend school as foreigners and therefore pay international student fees, and your residency is always tied to your job; your employer is your visa sponsor -- if you lose your job through voluntary or involuntary termination, your visa is cancelled and you have a month to either leave the country or secure another job. If the visas of your family members (spouse, children) are attached to yours, they will also be cancelled. Hence it really boils down to what your personal circumstances are and how much you are willing to risk. Think it through very thoroughly and I wish you all the best with whatever it is you decide in the end. I lived 9 years in Dubai and am now living in Sydney and loving it here way more. Any specific questions I'd be happy to assist. 🙂

QQ21

jkk32w

<blockquote rel="QQ21">@jkk32w no, citizenship takes a back seat. Simula ulit ng pagbilang. Time spent overseas was close to 5 years, so hindi counted yun ^_^ Some people just don't know their priorities haha! Msg me when you guys move here 🙂 </blockquote>

wow thanks bro! looking forward for Ex-UAE meetup soon..cant wait to get more tips from u here. thanks much for sharing. truly enlightening.

what u told april above is very helpful. true u cant be wrong in pursuing being an immigrant. long term wise mag outweigh talaga benefits nia. witnessed it sa friends ko na andyan na. and ung big move talaga dapat hindi abrupt kelangan pag isipan and d dapat madaliin. if experience and money is not enough yet hindi pde mag jump agad sa water 😃 i think ur 9yrs n dubai wasnt totally wasted from where ur at right now..im sure whatever experience u banked was also helpful wen u get there. God will always lead each of ur circumstances to his ultimate plan.

wla masyado thread in terms of UAE-AU comparisons im happy this thread is alive 😃

sana marami pa mag input 😃

aprildelarosa

@QQ21 wow! thank for the insights! i have decided -- i'll pursue OZ. my only reason why i considered dubai is money-- and mejo hindi ako confident pag ung lang ang reason.. and i always plan long term.. may kasama kasing fear din pag naiisip ko na mag OZ agad (like baka mahirap makakuha agad ng job). Pero sabi nga nila tyagaan lang yan. Thank you again!!! big help talaga to lalo na sa mga nagdoudoubt!

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