VETASSESS question

reemon

@C0pper said:

@era222 said:
Found a thread din where someone accidentally overclaimed work experience points: https://www.pomsinoz.com/topic/214506-over-claimed-points-for-subclass-190/ Baka helpful :smile:
Thank you po. Similar case nga po. Nag message ako du sa agent na nag comment, hoping to hear more advise on this.

I think it's too risky na mag lodge ng visa with overclaimed points. Baka madeny din sa dulo and masayang yung visa payment, oras, effort niyo. And record of visa refusal pa. If in case magkaroon ng visa refusal, baka mas mahirapan kang magrant on your next visa application. Just my opinion po.

era222

Just curious to know if anyone experienced na 4–6 months bumalik yung VETASSESS outcome nila for first-time GSM assessment?

RheaMARN1171933

@era222 said:
Just curious to know if anyone experienced na 4–6 months bumalik yung VETASSESS outcome nila for first-time GSM assessment?

They’ve got such a huge backlog

maguero

@C0pper said:
Hello po,

Yung sa VETASSES ko po 6.5 years lang yung na accredit na ko pero yung total work experience ko po sa field eh 8 years. Pwede ko pa rin ba i-claim na 'atleast 8years' yung sa 'Overseas Skilled Employment'?
Or dapat 'Atleast 5 years but less than 8 years' since 6.5yrs lang yung lumabas sa vetassess?
Thank you po.

Just claim the years Vetassess accredited. Someone from another forum shared their 491 application was refused because she overclaimed points. Sayang lang yung pera and yung waiting time.

marvinreds

@maguero said:

@C0pper said:
Hello po,

Yung sa VETASSES ko po 6.5 years lang yung na accredit na ko pero yung total work experience ko po sa field eh 8 years. Pwede ko pa rin ba i-claim na 'atleast 8years' yung sa 'Overseas Skilled Employment'?

Or dapat 'Atleast 5 years but less than 8 years' since 6.5yrs lang yung lumabas sa vetassess?

Thank you po.
Just claim the years Vetassess accredited. Someone from another forum shared their 491 application was refused because she overclaimed points. Sayang lang yung pera and yung waiting time.

If same company and same job title, pwede naman siguro mag claim more than sa positive assessed ng Vetassess? Sakin, 7.5 yrs Vetassess assessment until Sep 30, 2021. Pero same company and same job title pa din, and nainvite ako ng Visa 189 nung Aug 22, 2022. So additional 326 days or 0.89 yrs so 7.5+ 0.89= 8.39 yrs (15 pts) ung claim ko sa Visa application..

maguero

@marvinreds said:

@maguero said:

@C0pper said:
Hello po,

Yung sa VETASSES ko po 6.5 years lang yung na accredit na ko pero yung total work experience ko po sa field eh 8 years. Pwede ko pa rin ba i-claim na 'atleast 8years' yung sa 'Overseas Skilled Employment'?

Or dapat 'Atleast 5 years but less than 8 years' since 6.5yrs lang yung lumabas sa vetassess?

Thank you po.

Just claim the years Vetassess accredited. Someone from another forum shared their 491 application was refused because she overclaimed points. Sayang lang yung pera and yung waiting time.

If same company and same job title, pwede naman siguro mag claim more than sa positive assessed ng Vetassess? Sakin, 7.5 yrs Vetassess assessment until Sep 30, 2021. Pero same company and same job title pa din, and nainvite ako ng Visa 189 nung Aug 22, 2022. So additional 326 days or 0.89 yrs so 7.5+ 0.89= 8.39 yrs (15 pts) ung claim ko sa Visa application..

If it's the same company and same job automatic naman na tataas ang points mo when you reach the next tier. You don't have to update your EOI. Ganyan din nangyari sa akin dati.

marvinreds

@maguero said:

@marvinreds said:

@maguero said:

@C0pper said:
Hello po,

Yung sa VETASSES ko po 6.5 years lang yung na accredit na ko pero yung total work experience ko po sa field eh 8 years. Pwede ko pa rin ba i-claim na 'atleast 8years' yung sa 'Overseas Skilled Employment'?

Or dapat 'Atleast 5 years but less than 8 years' since 6.5yrs lang yung lumabas sa vetassess?

Thank you po.

Just claim the years Vetassess accredited. Someone from another forum shared their 491 application was refused because she overclaimed points. Sayang lang yung pera and yung waiting time.

If same company and same job title, pwede naman siguro mag claim more than sa positive assessed ng Vetassess? Sakin, 7.5 yrs Vetassess assessment until Sep 30, 2021. Pero same company and same job title pa din, and nainvite ako ng Visa 189 nung Aug 22, 2022. So additional 326 days or 0.89 yrs so 7.5+ 0.89= 8.39 yrs (15 pts) ung claim ko sa Visa application..
If it's the same company and same job automatic naman na tataas ang points mo when you reach the next tier. You don't have to update your EOI. Ganyan din nangyari sa akin dati.

Dun po ba sa EOI ay sineparate nyo ung first one year na work experience na hindi assessed ng Vetassess? ung hindi tick ung "this job is closely related to nominated occupation", dahil sa one year deduction.

anyway sakin kasi hindi ko na hiniwalay, kasi kahit bawasan ng 1 yr ay at least 8 yrs padin as per vetassess assessment..

maguero

@marvinreds said:

@maguero said:

@marvinreds said:

@maguero said:

@C0pper said:
Hello po,

Yung sa VETASSES ko po 6.5 years lang yung na accredit na ko pero yung total work experience ko po sa field eh 8 years. Pwede ko pa rin ba i-claim na 'atleast 8years' yung sa 'Overseas Skilled Employment'?

Or dapat 'Atleast 5 years but less than 8 years' since 6.5yrs lang yung lumabas sa vetassess?

Thank you po.

Just claim the years Vetassess accredited. Someone from another forum shared their 491 application was refused because she overclaimed points. Sayang lang yung pera and yung waiting time.

If same company and same job title, pwede naman siguro mag claim more than sa positive assessed ng Vetassess? Sakin, 7.5 yrs Vetassess assessment until Sep 30, 2021. Pero same company and same job title pa din, and nainvite ako ng Visa 189 nung Aug 22, 2022. So additional 326 days or 0.89 yrs so 7.5+ 0.89= 8.39 yrs (15 pts) ung claim ko sa Visa application..

If it's the same company and same job automatic naman na tataas ang points mo when you reach the next tier. You don't have to update your EOI. Ganyan din nangyari sa akin dati.
Dun po ba sa EOI ay sineparate nyo ung first one year na work experience na hindi assessed ng Vetassess? ung hindi tick ung "this job is closely related to nominated occupation", dahil sa one year deduction.
anyway sakin kasi hindi ko na hiniwalay, kasi kahit bawasan ng 1 yr ay at least 8 yrs padin as per vetassess assessment..

Yes, hiniwalay ko sya because based on my Vetassess document hindi sya considered as skilled employment.

marvinreds

@maguero said:

@marvinreds said:

@maguero said:

@marvinreds said:

@maguero said:

@C0pper said:
Hello po,

Yung sa VETASSES ko po 6.5 years lang yung na accredit na ko pero yung total work experience ko po sa field eh 8 years. Pwede ko pa rin ba i-claim na 'atleast 8years' yung sa 'Overseas Skilled Employment'?

Or dapat 'Atleast 5 years but less than 8 years' since 6.5yrs lang yung lumabas sa vetassess?

Thank you po.

Just claim the years Vetassess accredited. Someone from another forum shared their 491 application was refused because she overclaimed points. Sayang lang yung pera and yung waiting time.

If same company and same job title, pwede naman siguro mag claim more than sa positive assessed ng Vetassess? Sakin, 7.5 yrs Vetassess assessment until Sep 30, 2021. Pero same company and same job title pa din, and nainvite ako ng Visa 189 nung Aug 22, 2022. So additional 326 days or 0.89 yrs so 7.5+ 0.89= 8.39 yrs (15 pts) ung claim ko sa Visa application..

If it's the same company and same job automatic naman na tataas ang points mo when you reach the next tier. You don't have to update your EOI. Ganyan din nangyari sa akin dati.

Dun po ba sa EOI ay sineparate nyo ung first one year na work experience na hindi assessed ng Vetassess? ung hindi tick ung "this job is closely related to nominated occupation", dahil sa one year deduction.

anyway sakin kasi hindi ko na hiniwalay, kasi kahit bawasan ng 1 yr ay at least 8 yrs padin as per vetassess assessment..
Yes, hiniwalay ko sya because based on my Vetassess document hindi sya considered as skilled employment.

ay ganon ba. sana naman hindi ma reject ung application kahit nag "over claim ako ng skilled work experience", e kasi hindi naman ako "nag over claim ng points".

PR_AU

Good day po 🙂 sorry, hanggang ilang pages lang po kinaya kong i-back read. May I ask for your opinion/s po:

I have 2 options based on my research - apply as (1) Skilled Migrant 190 or (2) apply for a Student Visa 500.

I’m planning to check muna if pwede po ako mag apply as skilled migrant to AU para hindi po malaki gastos. Ito po details ko:

Graduate of UP Visayas BSBA Marketing (latin honors pero I think di rin po to impt)
Age: at least 25 but less than 33
Work experience: Marketing/product development (banking & finance industry) for more than 5 years now
Single
Prefers NSW kasi meron po ako Tita doon na PR

Baka kayanin po 65-75 points depending on the assessment.

Per checking NSW ANZSCO iniisip ko po baka pwede ako under advertising and marketing professionals 225111 or 225113) or unit group 1311 (advertising, pr, and sales managers 131112 or 131113).

I saw dito may nagtry magpa assess VETASSESS para po malaman nila if pwede sila mag proceed, question po:

If hindi maganda score sa VETASSESS/IML and hindi ko na ipush 190, makaka affect po ba sa SV application? Makikita po ba yun ni immi?
Sa isang assessment round po kay VETASSESS ilang occupation code po pwede isama?
Hoping to also ask for your inputs ano po mas okay na path to PR given my background.

Gusto ko po talaga maka work sa AU at makatulong sa family. Maraming salamat po in advance. 😊

maguero

@PR_AU Marketing Specialist yung nominated occupation ko when I applied for a skilled immigrant visa a few years ago. Check mo muna kung ano ang category ng UP Visayas. For Marketing Specialist kailangan section 1 ang school mo. May list dati dito sa Pinoy AU ng schools and their categories, search mo na lang. Kung okay na yung school, ireview mo yung tasks na expected from this occupation. If you meet most of those tasks then pwede mag skills assessment.

Marketing Specialist is only in the short term skills list so 190 and 491 lang ang pwede dito. Based on my observation, and matagal-tagal na ako nagffollow ng immigration trends, hindi rin ganun karami ang naiinvite under this occupation. So I would suggest that you don't limit yourself to 190 NSW especially because your current points are below NSW's minimum requirement. I would suggest that you consider all states where this occupation is listed and that you consider both 190 and 491 kasi offshore ka.

I don't really suggest going the student visa route because you will spend a lot of money and there is no guarantee that you will get a PR in the end. If it turns out your school isn't under section 1 then I think there is no other option but to go the student visa route because you won't get a positive assessment from Vetasses. May ganung case na dati dito sa forum na solid yung work experience nya pero sumablay sa school.

Kung magstudent visa ka dito I suggest you study for an occupation na mataas-taas ang chance to get PR in the future.

I got a 489 visa from SA 4 years ago. At that time sila lang nagnonominate ng Marketing Specialist and the minimum points they required was 90.

PR_AU

@maguero said:
@PR_AU Marketing Specialist yung nominated occupation ko when I applied for a skilled immigrant visa a few years ago. Check mo muna kung ano ang category ng UP Visayas. For Marketing Specialist kailangan section 1 ang school mo. May list dati dito sa Pinoy AU ng schools and their categories, search mo na lang. Kung okay na yung school, ireview mo yung tasks na expected from this occupation. If you meet most of those tasks then pwede mag skills assessment.

Marketing Specialist is only in the short term skills list so 190 and 491 lang ang pwede dito. Based on my observation, and matagal-tagal na ako nagffollow ng immigration trends, hindi rin ganun karami ang naiinvite under this occupation. So I would suggest that you don't limit yourself to 190 NSW especially because your current points are below NSW's minimum requirement. I would suggest that you consider all states where this occupation is listed and that you consider both 190 and 491 kasi offshore ka.
I don't really suggest going the student visa route because you will spend a lot of money and there is no guarantee that you will get a PR in the end. If it turns out your school isn't under section 1 then I think there is no other option but to go the student visa route because you won't get a positive assessment from Vetasses. May ganung case na dati dito sa forum na solid yung work experience nya pero sumablay sa school.
Kung magstudent visa ka dito I suggest you study for an occupation na mataas-taas ang chance to get PR in the future.
I got a 489 visa from SA 4 years ago. At that time sila lang nagnonominate ng Marketing Specialist and the minimum points they required was 90.

Thank you, @maguero . Per checking (here in Pinoy AU), UPV is sadly under section 2. I saw some thread here where they discussed being their school under section 2 and still got 15pts due to some factors (GPA, grades, transcript)

Yes po, if SV medyo mahirap din pumili ng course na may pathway for PR. Initial reco ni IDP is postgraduate which is hindi ko po afford. My tita wants me to take AIN if student po pero long shot din.

Glad to know that you got 489 po. 🙂 Yung initial assessment ni VETASSESS pwede po if ever gamitin to lodge 190 or 489? May I ask if ano po initial entry visa niyo sa AU? Thank you very much for your feedback. 🙂

PR_AU

@maguero although, for the school po, UP Visayas Iloilo City kami, not the one in Miag-ao. However, baka same lang din po. May ibang reference list po kaya for the schools? Just to double check lang po.

I am leaning more towards 190 / 489 pa rin po more than SV. Thank you po ulit sa insights. 🙂

maguero

@PR_AU said:
@maguero although, for the school po, UP Visayas Iloilo City kami, not the one in Miag-ao. However, baka same lang din po. May ibang reference list po kaya for the schools? Just to double check lang po.

I am leaning more towards 190 / 489 pa rin po more than SV. Thank you po ulit sa insights. 🙂

Perhaps you can look for a MARA agent who does a free initial consultation. That would be the best person to ask about the latest classification of schools. Hindi ko rin kasi alam kung gaano kadalas inuupdate yung list.

Usually yung mga section 2 who are able to get the full 15 points are those who have PRC licenses. Wala kasing licensure for marketing. Try mo muna kumausap ng MARA agent about this matter.

Yung VETASSESS results can be used for both 190 and 491 (ito yung pumalit sa 489). I came here on a 489 visa.

Yung AIN yata isn't in the list of occupations. Ang nasa list is Enrolled Nurse which is higher than an AIN. Pero check mo rin kung along states ang nagssponsor nito. Usually kasi RN ang nassponsor.

PR_AU

@maguero said:

@PR_AU said:
@maguero although, for the school po, UP Visayas Iloilo City kami, not the one in Miag-ao. However, baka same lang din po. May ibang reference list po kaya for the schools? Just to double check lang po.

I am leaning more towards 190 / 489 pa rin po more than SV. Thank you po ulit sa insights. 🙂
Perhaps you can look for a MARA agent who does a free initial consultation. That would be the best person to ask about the latest classification of schools. Hindi ko rin kasi alam kung gaano kadalas inuupdate yung list.
Usually yung mga section 2 who are able to get the full 15 points are those who have PRC licenses. Wala kasing licensure for marketing. Try mo muna kumausap ng MARA agent about this matter.
Yung VETASSESS results can be used for both 190 and 491 (ito yung pumalit sa 489). I came here on a 489 visa.
Yung AIN yata isn't in the list of occupations. Ang nasa list is Enrolled Nurse which is higher than an AIN. Pero check mo rin kung along states ang nagssponsor nito. Usually kasi RN ang nassponsor.

@maguero said:

@PR_AU said:
@maguero although, for the school po, UP Visayas Iloilo City kami, not the one in Miag-ao. However, baka same lang din po. May ibang reference list po kaya for the schools? Just to double check lang po.

I am leaning more towards 190 / 489 pa rin po more than SV. Thank you po ulit sa insights. 🙂
Perhaps you can look for a MARA agent who does a free initial consultation. That would be the best person to ask about the latest classification of schools. Hindi ko rin kasi alam kung gaano kadalas inuupdate yung list.
Usually yung mga section 2 who are able to get the full 15 points are those who have PRC licenses. Wala kasing licensure for marketing. Try mo muna kumausap ng MARA agent about this matter.
Yung VETASSESS results can be used for both 190 and 491 (ito yung pumalit sa 489). I came here on a 489 visa.
Yung AIN yata isn't in the list of occupations. Ang nasa list is Enrolled Nurse which is higher than an AIN. Pero check mo rin kung along states ang nagssponsor nito. Usually kasi RN ang nassponsor.

Thank you so much for inputs, @maguero. Such a great help po. 😊

C0pper

@maguero said:

@C0pper said:
Hello po,

Yung sa VETASSES ko po 6.5 years lang yung na accredit na ko pero yung total work experience ko po sa field eh 8 years. Pwede ko pa rin ba i-claim na 'atleast 8years' yung sa 'Overseas Skilled Employment'?

Or dapat 'Atleast 5 years but less than 8 years' since 6.5yrs lang yung lumabas sa vetassess?

Thank you po.
Just claim the years Vetassess accredited. Someone from another forum shared their 491 application was refused because she overclaimed points. Sayang lang yung pera and yung waiting time.

Thank you sir. Nimention po ba kung sa NSW, VIC or ibang state sya nominated? Yung sa NSW kase nabasa ko na strict nga sila sa years accredited ng Vetassess or ACS.

RheaMARN1171933

@C0pper said:

@maguero said:

@C0pper said:
Hello po,

Yung sa VETASSES ko po 6.5 years lang yung na accredit na ko pero yung total work experience ko po sa field eh 8 years. Pwede ko pa rin ba i-claim na 'atleast 8years' yung sa 'Overseas Skilled Employment'?

Or dapat 'Atleast 5 years but less than 8 years' since 6.5yrs lang yung lumabas sa vetassess?

Thank you po.

Just claim the years Vetassess accredited. Someone from another forum shared their 491 application was refused because she overclaimed points. Sayang lang yung pera and yung waiting time.

Thank you sir. Nimention po ba kung sa NSW, VIC or ibang state sya nominated? Yung sa NSW kase nabasa ko na strict nga sila sa years accredited ng Vetassess or ACS.

The state has nothing to do with such decision so it’s immaterial as to which state sponsored the applicant. It’s the legislation that determines this. My advice is to never do such a bold move without consulting a professional. If no budget for an agent best to follow what the assessment outcome is - that’s why you got assessed in the first place as this is part of the pre-requisite to your visa application. There is a purpose why one needs to do the assessment.

C0pper

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@C0pper said:

@maguero said:

@C0pper said:
Hello po,

Yung sa VETASSES ko po 6.5 years lang yung na accredit na ko pero yung total work experience ko po sa field eh 8 years. Pwede ko pa rin ba i-claim na 'atleast 8years' yung sa 'Overseas Skilled Employment'?

Or dapat 'Atleast 5 years but less than 8 years' since 6.5yrs lang yung lumabas sa vetassess?

Thank you po.

Just claim the years Vetassess accredited. Someone from another forum shared their 491 application was refused because she overclaimed points. Sayang lang yung pera and yung waiting time.

Thank you sir. Nimention po ba kung sa NSW, VIC or ibang state sya nominated? Yung sa NSW kase nabasa ko na strict nga sila sa years accredited ng Vetassess or ACS.
The state has nothing to do with such decision so it’s immaterial as to which state sponsored the applicant. It’s the legislation that determines this. My advice is to never do such a bold move without consulting a professional. If no budget for an agent best to follow what the assessment outcome is - that’s why you got assessed in the first place as this is part of the pre-requisite to your visa application. There is a purpose why one needs to do the assessment.

Thanks Ma'am @RheaMARN1171933 Any recommendations for a consultant po? We want to have our documents reviewed.

RheaMARN1171933

@C0pper said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@C0pper said:

@maguero said:

@C0pper said:
Hello po,

Yung sa VETASSES ko po 6.5 years lang yung na accredit na ko pero yung total work experience ko po sa field eh 8 years. Pwede ko pa rin ba i-claim na 'atleast 8years' yung sa 'Overseas Skilled Employment'?

Or dapat 'Atleast 5 years but less than 8 years' since 6.5yrs lang yung lumabas sa vetassess?

Thank you po.

Just claim the years Vetassess accredited. Someone from another forum shared their 491 application was refused because she overclaimed points. Sayang lang yung pera and yung waiting time.

Thank you sir. Nimention po ba kung sa NSW, VIC or ibang state sya nominated? Yung sa NSW kase nabasa ko na strict nga sila sa years accredited ng Vetassess or ACS.

The state has nothing to do with such decision so it’s immaterial as to which state sponsored the applicant. It’s the legislation that determines this. My advice is to never do such a bold move without consulting a professional. If no budget for an agent best to follow what the assessment outcome is - that’s why you got assessed in the first place as this is part of the pre-requisite to your visa application. There is a purpose why one needs to do the assessment.
Thanks Ma'am @RheaMARN1171933 Any recommendations for a consultant po? We want to have our documents reviewed.

Hmm…you’re liaising with one, in case you’re not aware. Complete our web form on our website www.visaconsort.com (click yellow bar) put as much info in the message box and one of my colleagues will be in touch.

tigerlance

@reemon said:

@C0pper said:

@era222 said:
Found a thread din where someone accidentally overclaimed work experience points: https://www.pomsinoz.com/topic/214506-over-claimed-points-for-subclass-190/ Baka helpful :smile:

Thank you po. Similar case nga po. Nag message ako du sa agent na nag comment, hoping to hear more advise on this.
I think it's too risky na mag lodge ng visa with overclaimed points. Baka madeny din sa dulo and masayang yung visa payment, oras, effort niyo. And record of visa refusal pa. If in case magkaroon ng visa refusal, baka mas mahirapan kang magrant on your next visa application. Just my opinion po.

Iadvise sa iyo na iwithdraw ang application, Walang 3 year ban

If iproceed ang application... ito ang mga possibility mangyari

a) Refused ang application, possible na merong 3 year ban

b) Grant ang 190 application, then sa citizenship matutuklasan then pauuwiin

c) Grant ang citizenship pero after many years, nakita nila ang error. Then pauuwiin

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