Architect - Applying as Architectural Draftsperson

chabawamba

Hello po mga fellow arki!! Thankful ako kasi may mga ganitong forum at madami akong natutunan. Tulad ng karamihan, planning din po ako to migrate sana jan sa aus this year. Nagtake narin po ako ng ielts and so far ok naman po yung scores ko (obs 7.5) Tanong ko lang po, may mga nag try na po ba dito na mag apply online habang nasa pinas ang nabigyan ng employer sponsorship visa?? Tntry ko po kasi mag apply online habang andito pa ako sa pinas hoping na makukha ng work. Or mas masusugest nyo po ba nag mag migration agency nalang ako then saka ako mag apply pag may visa na ako for au?? Maraming salamat po!!! 🙂

athelene

@hi po and @UbePandesal

Ah oki, so counted yung work experience after grad and before licensure. Noted po, tingnan ko po kung makakakuha ako ng CoE sa dating part-time job ko. Sana pag nagpa-assess maisama nga yun sa years of experience.

athelene

Tanong ko lng din po sa mga nakapagmigrate na as Architectural Draftsperson... madali po ba makahanap ng job as Architectural Technician/Architect? At meron po ba sa inyo nag-aral pa (i.e. Master of Architecture) after makapagmigrate in order to qualify for APE?

Charlene.tacang

@mickeymynes14 magandang araw po. Pwede po mg tanong about sa vetassess. im also planning sana mg apa assess Architectural Draftsperson na lito. please

kaidenMVH

<blockquote class="Quote" rel="Charlene.tacang">@mickeymynes14 magandang araw po. Pwede po mg tanong about sa vetassess. im also planning sana mg apa assess Architectural Draftsperson na lito. please

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post mo lang dito questions mo.

@athelene i think meron naman mga success stories na regarding sa profession natin upon migrating sa AU. i have a Uni classmate working in Mirvac now and mukhang ok naman position nya dun. He also got relatives in the industry holding good position in other companies. nag start sya sa Adelaide then moved to Sydney couple of years ago. Yun isang kung classmate choosed to be a chef hehehe. nasa Brisbane naman sya.

athelene

@kaidenMVH mukhang marami nga ang success stories na draftsperson ang pathway para makapasok. Na-excite tuloy akong gayahin kayong lahat at sumubok magmigrate hehehe. Research lang muna ako ng maigi habang naghihintay na maging eligible for the PR visa.

Graff

@athelene Arki grad ka rin ba pinas???architectural draftperson sana ang gusto ko pathway kaso ang problema ang experience ko sa work is construction estimator with 8years experience, im 33 years old now at wala akong mahanap sa province sponsorship na kailangan nila ng estimator...isa pa kung magpapaassess ng "Construction Estimator" sa VETASSESS papasa kaya ako kung akong ang course is BS Architecture and RLA sa pinas???Kaya ang naisip ko na lang na way is to get student visa and take Advanced Diploma of Building Design (Architectural)...tama kaya ang desisyon ko?

athelene

@Graff Yes, archi grad po ako. Upon checking <a href="https://www.anzscosearch.com/312114">Anzscosearch</a>, wala nga po ang estimator sa 189 or 190, siguro po hindi gaano in-demand ito sa Australia. As estimator po ba talagang estimates lang po ginagawa nyo o nagddraft din po kayo? Kasi balita ko po kasi kahit iba po ang position mo (meaning hindi draftsperson) pero yung main responsibilities mo ay matching sa draftsperson tasks, pwede mo po i-nominate ang Architectural Draftsperson.

I think there's no sense of having your credentials and work experience assessed as Construction Estimator kung walang magssponsor for you for 190/489 visa. Wala na rin po kasi ang 457 visa (employer sponsored) so malabo po yung pathway to PR as estimator.

In the past 10 years po, wala po kayong work experience as draftsperson/designer? Baka sakali po may mga drafting responsibilities kayo na pwede ipa-assess for the draftsperson occupation.

Yung Building Design po ay iba sa Architecture, more of documentation siya and for smaller-scale projects (residential). Kung draftsperson po talaga ang gusto niyong pasukin, pwede naman po. See this <a href="https://training.gov.au/Training/Details/CPP50911">link</a>.

Graff

@athelene General contracting for kami pero ang scope is to estimate boq between division 3 up to division 10 po ng CSI Format. Di naman po pure estimate ang ginagawa sometimes I need to make proposal designs, drafting works and 3d renderings pero minsanan lang pag kinakailangan. Pero mainly and duty ko is to estimate projects.

In the past 10 years po, meron ako experience sa Qatar pero 9 months lang yun and ang ginawa ko lang is mag as-built plan ng MEP works. Sa pinas meron ako experience sa isang company, CAD operator po ako at ang gingawa ko is to draft architectural works. After that, nandito na ako sa Saudi and mag 8 years bilang isang Architect/Estimator sa company this coming July and planning to stay up to next year July na lang po.

Kaya naisip ko po na mag aral na lang pero I don't know what course ang kukunin ko talaga.

Isa po sa gusto kong pasukin is to become Architectural Draftperson pero meron pang ibang choices ok lang din naman at yun po ang di ko alam sa ngayon...Gusto kong mag aral pero di ko sigurado na magagamit ko ito sa pag aapply ng PR sa AU? Iniisip ko mag aral din ng Quantity Surveying since ang experience is more on estimates..

Any advise po?

athelene

@Graff I see. From your experience kasi mas solid ang estimating experience mo, so makakakuha ka ng mas maraming points when it comes to overseas work experience. Typically sa skills assessment nagbabawas sila ng 1 year, which they may classify as your "unskilled" year. If you will go with the skilled migration route directly (instead of studying),

you can try nominating Quantity Surveyor, which is under the engineering ANZSCO code 233213 and is actually <a href="https://www.anzscosearch.com/mltssl/">eligible for 189/190 (except VIC and WA)/489 visa</a>. Try to have your overseas work experience assessed for Quantity Surveyor occupation, and hopefully at least 9 years yung work exp mo para kung sakali bawasan ng <a href="http://www.aiqs.com.au/imis/AIQS_Website/Migration/AIQS_Website/Public/Skilled_Migration_Assessment/Skilled_Migration.aspx">AIQS</a> ng 1 year, you will still meet the 8-year work experience to get 15 points.

As they say, yung nominated occupation mo for migration isn't necessarily the occupation na pwede mo lang gawin sa Australia once you get there. It's just a pathway para makapasok at makakuha ng PR. So if you still want to study Building Design and work as an Architectural Draftsperson after you get your PR visa, pwede po yun. Sa palagay ko po kasi parang mas madali kung yung estimating experience nyo ang gamitin nyo para magmigrate instead of architectural drafting, since mas matagal po yung work experience nyo as estimator than draftsperson.

Kung gusto nyo po naman na tumuloy ng aral ng Quantity Surveying after getting PR visa, pwede rin po. Kung naghahabol po kasi kayo ng points for migration (like sa age cutoff), mas ok na mag-apply nalang kayo ng PR visa instead of studying bago mag-apply for PR.

Graff

@athelene Gusto na po talaga magpa assess sa AIQS kaso ang problema may na nabasa ako na quotes sa website nila na " Other engineering degrees such as mechanical, electrical or software are not considered as allied disciplines" and " qualifications are assessed first, followed by your work experience. If you do not hold suitable qualifications, then your whole assessment will not be considered suitable."

Medyo nag aalangan ang magpa assess dahil po dyan. Isa pa yung Manager ko is not a member of AIQS and he graduated as an Architecture Course din po.

Naabutan na po ako ng Age cut off because I'm now 34 years old this coming May.

athelene

@Graff Architecture is included in the "<a href="https://www.aiqs.com.au/imis/documents/Skilled%20Migration%20Assessment%20Policy%202015.pdf">allied disciplines</a>" (see Section 9), but then again according to their FAQs, the degree may be considered by there's no guarantee. I would suggest you contact AIQS directly about your questions so you can decide whether it's worth trying to get an assessment from them.

I think your manager does not have to be a member of AIQS for you to get an assessment, but is your supervisor a Quantity Surveyor by title?

I see. Well, if talagang gusto mo magpadagdag ng points for EOI, look into the <a href="https://www.aiqs.com.au/imis/documents/AIQS%20Accredited%20Course%20Guide%20Nov%202016.pdf">AIQS accredited courses</a>. With an Australian qualification, you can try to get assessed under Pathway 1.

Graff

@athelene Nice thank you for giving me hope and to understand about the allied discipline means...Malinaw na sakin na pede pala tayong mga Arki Grad na magpaassess sa AIQS.

Yes he is not a member of AIQS and my problem now is I'm the only person responsible for this job Estimator/Quantity Surveyor both at the same time. I'm reporting directly to my manager who will sign my detailed COE if ever I will submit for assessment.

Do you think I need to study to add more points for EOI, sa tingin ko kasi malabo ako makuha ng superior result sa english test. Kasi nag try ako i calculate ang points ko considering that I can get only proficient english result and if ever 5 years overseas experience lang ako kinonsider ko and the total is only 60points.

athelene

@Graff Your concerns regarding your COE will have to be addressed by AIQS mismo, so don't hesitate to ask them. Baka kasi magbayad ka ng assessment tapos hindi pala pwede. Clarify mo muna with them if eligible ka ba or not based on your qualifications/work exp.

Yung study route, depende po kasi yun sa financial budget mo on top of the fees na babayaran mo for skills assessment and PR visa fee, and kung hindi ka naman nagmamadali magmigrate. But makakatulong po ang Australian study para umangat ang EOI points mo.

Graff

@athelene I sent them an email just, asking about the eligibility of the person who will sign my COE.

About naman po sa study route, hindi naman po ako nagmamadali mag migrate and willing din naman po ako maghintay at magaral kasi sa tingin ko hindi sapat ang points ko kung di ako magaaral. Sa budget naman po, ang kaya lang po ng budget ko is for 2 years course but bachelor course will be taken up to 4 years. May chance ba akong makakuha ng eCOE sa isang university?

athelene

@Graff why don't you try the postgraduate degree nalang para 2 years lang po? And most bachelor's degree in Australia are 3 years, unlike sa atin na 4 years (non-archi or eng). I don't think I or anyone here can tell you about your "chances" of getting an eCOE because it depends on the uni's admissions policies. As long as you meet the uni's minimum requirements, you can definitely enroll and get an eCOE for the uni and then you can lodge your student visa application. From my perspective, since related naman po yung archi undergrad sa possible postgrad degree in Construction Management, I don't think it's going to be an issue naman po.

If so, you can definitely go the student route para makakuha ng Australian qualification, which would definitely help if you pursue the Quantity Surveyor occupation.

Graff

@athelene Thank a lot for giving and answering all my questions today.

Pwede ko po ba malaman ang mga schools na nag ooffer ng 2 years postgraduate degree course in CM? Salamat po ulit.

athelene

@Graff You're welcome. I've already placed the link to accredited courses in a previous post.

Graff

@athelene Meron po ako nakita na Postgrad Course - Master of Construction Management sa Deakin University, trimester within 72weeks matatapos but I read in here that in order to get post grad or graduate visa their is a certain number weeks required to be eligible?

athelene

@Graff yes, you need equivalent of 2 years of study

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