State-Sponsored by one state but chose to live & work in another State

angel4ever

@icebreaker1928 Urban Planner po eh. 🙂 hirap nga eh. hahaha.

icebreaker1928

@angel4ever sayang hehee... anyway goodluck sa job hunting... kaya mo yan 🙂

TasBurrfoot

<blockquote rel="angel4ever"><blockquote rel="qgnd">happy new year to all! 😃

kami rin may SS from SA at ako ung main applicant. willing naman ako mg-comply sa two-year obligation pero ang worry ko ay ang number of available jobs sa SA.

kaya napaisip kami na si mrs at anak namin dun kaya mg-stay sa tiyahin ni mrs sa NSW habang ako sa SA.

Baka sakali matagalan ako makahanap ng work sa SA, si mrs mas maraming job opportunities sa Sydney plus ung anak namin pwd maiwan sa tita nya.

may nakagawa naba nito? ung two-year obligation dapat ba whole family ang mg-comply or pwd na ung main applicant lng?</blockquote>

Eto rin nasa isip ko, sa relatives ko muna ako sa NSW habang naghahanap ng work sa Perth / WA para makabawas naman sa gastos on accommodation. Then kapag meron na makitang work saka na lang punta ng WA. But I plan to work sa NSW para maka-ipon din. Ok lang kaya yun?

Meron na kaya nagpaalam sa State to release from sign agreement and na-grant?

Sana may makatulong dito sa forums. 🙁</blockquote>

dunno if meron na ganyan but there are some who opted to go elsewhere from the state that sponsored them - sabi ok naman daw, but i say di natin malalaman yan unless the time will come na mag-apply ng citizenship or PR visa renewal. i would not be surprised if the will ask why you did not honor the agreement set when you got the visa grant.

on your case naman, pwede naman cguro ito coz pupunta ka naman sa WA eventually to serve your 2 yrs. you can always argue that you DID your 2 yrs within the span of time your visa was valid. just take note though that baka ma sanay ka na sa buhay sa NSW (which i reckon you will be staying in sydney) - moving from a metropolis to a small city in perth may not be to your total liking.

icebreaker1928

@psychoboy pwede rin reverse mangyari... magustuhan nya ang not so busy city ng Perth compared to Sydney 🙂

TasBurrfoot

<blockquote rel="icebreaker1928">@psychoboy pwede rin reverse mangyari... magustuhan nya ang not so busy city ng Perth compared to Sydney 🙂</blockquote>

pwede din!! 🙂

brent

@angel4ever

i tried calling State Migration WA informing them of my request for the release from the "2 yr Agreement". reason ko is mas maraming opprtunities kasi sa VIC / QLD for me (although ang totoo talaga is may nakita akong long time friend na tutuluyan sa VIC / QLD).

then tinanong nila ako kung gaano na daw ba ko katagal sa WA, and when I said, sorry, pero wala pa ako dun actually. then sabi nila is, hndi daw pwede, dahil may agreement akong pinirmahan.

Come to think of it, reading between the lines, kung sinagot ko ba na, I've been here 2 mos, 3 mos, eh papayag kaya sila? so i'm guessing, at least, try to stay in the Sponsoring state for a couple of months, and try to settle there (find a job, what have you), then kung wala talaga, saka na lang magpaalam sa Sponsoring State.

This way, I think, will be fair & just on both parties... Worth giving a try, I guess.

lock_code2004

<blockquote rel="brent">@angel4ever

then tinanong nila ako kung gaano na daw ba ko katagal sa WA, and when I said, sorry, pero wala pa ako dun actually. then sabi nila is, hndi daw pwede, dahil may agreement akong pinirmahan.

This way, I think, will be fair & just on both parties... Worth giving a try, I guess.</blockquote>

parang may nabasa akong ganyan dati.. they proved na wala nga talagang mahanap na work sa state na yun.. they said na matagal na sila dun.. and then they finally found a job sa ibang state.. pinayagan naman sila..

they just want you to try your best to satisfy your initial SS commitment,

kung wala talga then saka na humanap ng iba...

i think hindi nmn cruel ang DIAC, if you can prove your case..

meron naman silang guidelines for "compassionate and compelling" issues..

😉

TasBurrfoot

<blockquote rel="lock_code2004"><blockquote rel="brent">@angel4ever

then tinanong nila ako kung gaano na daw ba ko katagal sa WA, and when I said, sorry, pero wala pa ako dun actually. then sabi nila is, hndi daw pwede, dahil may agreement akong pinirmahan.

This way, I think, will be fair & just on both parties... Worth giving a try, I guess.</blockquote>

they just want you to try your best to satisfy your initial SS commitment,

kung wala talga then saka na humanap ng iba...

i think hindi nmn cruel ang DIAC, if you can prove your case..

meron naman silang guidelines for "compassionate and compelling" issues..

😉</blockquote>

As long as documented and you asked permission to transfer, I doubt if they will make this an issue moving forward... 🙂

angel4ever

Err. nawala ung comment ko haba pa naman nun. X_X

anyway, maraming salamat po sa lahat ng nagreply, d ko na po itag lahat. Maghananap na lang po ako ng work sa Perth while in Sydney. Nabasa ko po kasi sa ibang thread na mahirap maghanap ng work kung wala pa AU address ska AU mobile number. Pero while in Sydney, maghahanap na lang ako ng part-time work or temporary work. Wala naman po kasi ako intention na hindi icomply yung 2years kahit pa hindi ung preferred kong work as long Siguro kung mga 2-3 months na ako naghahanp ng work sa Perth / WA at wala pa rin baka pumayag na ang State Migration WA.

@lock_code2004 you mentioned on another thread na yung initial entry kahit sa ibang state.. Kung more than a month kaya ako sa Sydney considered as initial entry pa rin un? haha. Ang worry ko din po kasi sabi sa SS approval letter:

"Applicants using Western Australian state sponsorship are required to live in Western Australia for <b><u>at least the first 2 years</u></b> after visa grant."

pero po sa State Sponsorship Agreement (yung pinirmahan)

"1.You remain living and working in Western Australia for a period of two years after obtaining your visa;

2.You keep the Western Australian Government informed of your contact details after your arrival;"

Haaaaay, 5days to go before my flight.. Hirap talaga pag solo mode.

:-((

OT: @icebreaker1928: ung kakilala nyo po nageemployer sponsored sa IT? Yung BF ko po kasi Software Engineer. Let me know details. hehe. Baka makapasa siya sa NSW magpapakasal na lang kami pagdating nya dito para may reason na ako umalis ng WA. Lol. Baka tanggapin un as "compassionate and compelling"

THANKS po.. =)

icebreaker1928

@angel4ever nde po... kelangan po may valid visa na...

lock_code2004

@angel4ever - wala nmn po problema dun.. hindi nmn sila nanghuhuli ng taga ibang state..

pagdating na pagdating mo sa WA, inform them agad para mag-start na ang 2-yr residency period mo..

angel4ever

thanks po @lock_code2004 and @icebreaker1928

coolflame

@angel4ever goodluck po... 🙂

Husker

<blockquote rel="lock_code2004">@angel4ever - wala nmn po problema dun.. hindi nmn sila nanghuhuli ng taga ibang state..

pagdating na pagdating mo sa WA, inform them agad para mag-start na ang 2-yr residency period mo..</blockquote>

thanks, I was wondering about this scenario too.

TotoyOZresident

Ingat sa mga nakalipat at sa lilipat ng ibang state siguraduhin pinayagan ng DIAC. At pinaka importante di lang verbal dapat may documento o letter na pinapayagan ng DIAC ang immigrant na lumipat ng ibang state galing sa ibang state na nag isponsor. Delikado kapag wala kayong dokumento maaring ma deport kapag nalaman na lumabag sa contract o kaya maka apekto ito sa pag apply ng citizenship. Alalahanin na every year naghihigpit ang DIAC kaya nararapat at mas maige sundin ang nasa contract at magtanung kung papayagan na lumipat ng ibang state.

Goodluck...

TasBurrfoot

<blockquote rel="TotoyOZresident">Ingat sa mga nakalipat at sa lilipat ng ibang state siguraduhin pinayagan ng DIAC. At pinaka importante di lang verbal dapat may documento o letter na pinapayagan ng DIAC ang immigrant na lumipat ng ibang state galing sa ibang state na nag isponsor. Delikado kapag wala kayong dokumento maaring ma deport kapag nalaman na lumabag sa contract o kaya maka apekto ito sa pag apply ng citizenship. Alalahanin na every year naghihigpit ang DIAC kaya nararapat at mas maige sundin ang nasa contract at magtanung kung papayagan na lumipat ng ibang state.

Goodluck...

</blockquote>

exactly my thoughts but I was brushed off previously as it was not naman daw what was advised to her by 3 migration agent... immigration loophool daw! 😉

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Posted 28 September 2009 - 01:41 PM

Nick&Bren, on Sep 27 2009, 07:56 PM, said:

Please can some one clarify whether it is possible to move to another state after being sponsored by one state eg :

Friend has 475 State sponsored visa approved for South Australia but would like to relocate to Tasmania. can he do this and just let the South Aust gov know he is moving to Tasmania or does he have to reapply for a new visa from Tasmania

thanks

Any advise will be welcome..

Brenda

Hello Brenda,

As long as you have lived in ANY Regional part of Australia for 2 years and worked in ANY Regional part of Australia for one year (in ANY occupation) it does not need to be only one Regional area. The you should meet the criteria for the SC887 PR visa. You do not need to apply for a new SC475 visa. As a courtesy you should inform SA that you are unable to find suitable work in SA and that you are moving to another state. There is no need to inform DIAC.

Regards

share ko lang, nakita ko s ibang forum

angel4ever

Scary naman post.. Clarify ko lang po @TotoyOZresident kanino po ba dapat magpaalam, sa DIAC po or sa State? awww. 🙁 Gusto ko kasi sana mag-work muna dito sa Sydney then kapag nakaipon na saka ako lipat ng Perth. Dito nga lang sa Sydney hirap na hanap ng work, pano pa sa Perth na wala ako kakilala, baka mabaliw na ako dun. haaaay! 🙁

<blockquote rel="psychoboy"><blockquote rel="TotoyOZresident">Ingat sa mga nakalipat at sa lilipat ng ibang state siguraduhin pinayagan ng DIAC. At pinaka importante di lang verbal dapat may documento o letter na pinapayagan ng DIAC ang immigrant na lumipat ng ibang state galing sa ibang state na nag isponsor. Delikado kapag wala kayong dokumento maaring ma deport kapag nalaman na lumabag sa contract o kaya maka apekto ito sa pag apply ng citizenship. Alalahanin na every year naghihigpit ang DIAC kaya nararapat at mas maige sundin ang nasa contract at magtanung kung papayagan na lumipat ng ibang state.

Goodluck...

</blockquote>

exactly my thoughts but I was brushed off previously as it was not naman daw what was advised to her by 3 migration agent... immigration loophool daw! 😉

</blockquote>

clayee

Hello everyone,

Isa din po ito sa dilema ko sa ngayon kung lilipat ako ng ibang state. NT ang SS ko, I have been trying to submit job application online since Jan 2013 pero negative. Software development ang experience ko, but ang nakikita ko sa job posts are more on Infrastructure related like Desktop Technician. Now, I'm thinking to move to Perth kasi nandun yung friend ko and willing syang ampunin ako till i get a job. Gusto ko magcomply dun sa SS agreement na 2 years, kaso 2 mos na ko nagta-try mag apply online pero wala akong makitang trabaho. Hindi po ako sure kung kelangan ko pa magpaalam sa NT govt before I move to Perth. Naguguluhan po ako till now.

Nagreresearch po ako about this topic, and ito po yung isang nabasa ko:

Can 176 visa with SA SS move to another state in the first 2 yrs due to job?

Hi Ozzdeam

The answer is yes, he can. There is no Condition on a 176 visa that prevents the person from moving to another State within the 2 years. No such visa Condition even exists.

The DIAC website is misleading about this, in my opinion. Policy says that if a State has been kind enough to Sponsor you then you should at least make a reasonable effort to stay in the Sponsoring State for a couple of years. However, Policy is not Law and DIAC should not pretend that it is.

The actual legal position comes down to the (written) Aussie Constitution. Apparently the Constitition says that an Australian can live anywhere he likes in Australia and can do whatever he likes by way of a job, as long as whatever he does is legal. A Permanent Resident counts as an Australian for this purpose.

The only way to change the Law about this would be to alter the Constitution first, which cannot be done without an Australia-wide Referendum of all its Citizens. That is not going to happen over something as trivial as this, so in practice 176 holders swap around between States until they are able to settle somewhere they like.

I suspect that the swapping probably happens in both directions - ie one 176 holder leaves SA but another one turns up from WA or similar. It probably evens itself out in the end.

Your friend does not need permission from anyone. He merely needs to pack his bags and set off if that is what he wants to do!

jennyt

I called DIAC today and asked if I can study in South Australia even if I was sponsored by Western Australia, and she said yes. I can apply for visa subclass 887 after living in any regional area of Australia and work for 1 year full time.

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