House Rental Scamming

icebreaker1928

<blockquote rel="sofabed">Hello po, magpapatulong po sana kung paano macheck kung nag eexist nga talaga itong taong ito: <b> Carson Ludwig</b>. Possible po na na-scam kami ng taong ito by paying him $600 (via Western Union) for rent on his apartment: http://flatmates.com.au/property.html?id=134124 Though he provided us with Australian passport and land title, skeptical ako sa kanya kasi ngayon nanghihingi na naman siya ng deposit. Btw, my sister and I will be moving to Sydney by Jan. 24.

Thank you po! </blockquote>

kamusta na po kayo mam sofabed?

As far as I know... 99% ng ads dyan sa flatmates.com.au scam...

nagtry din ako dyan dati...

almost 10 ang inemail ko, lahat nanghihingi ng deposit.

red flag agad... tapos nagcheck ako sa site nila..

may mga format ng scam na nakapost.. ayun, ganon na ganon nga.

boss aolee... sana magkaroon tayo ng sticky sa forum gaya nito para mawarn yung iba about this kind of scam.

xtine99

i suggest sa mga newbie who will arrive in sydney, to book an accomodation first via hotels, motels, hostels, b&b, backpackers for 1-3 nights. Then, during that time, arranged viewing first for prospective private accomodations. Make sure you have contacted them before you arrive australia and arranged for a time to view their place. In that case, you will avoid being scam and you will meet the landlady and arranged for a rental lease agreement. 😉

xtine99

<blockquote rel="LakiMasel">Sa mga nakatira or naghahanap po ng rentals, ano po ba yung mga websites na pinupuntahan nyo?

Actually, ang plan ko ay mag hotel (cheap hotels) na lang muna bago maghanap ng rentals.</blockquote>

If you are coming alone in australia, and is tight on budget, you can try backpackers (bed only) or hostels or bed and breakfast with room share. Backpackers can be $25-$50 per bed, hostels can be $30-$50 per night, bed and breakfast ( own room) $30-$50 per night.

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aolee

@iceBreaker, no wonder nung may nag post ng FOR RENT na humihingi ng resertvation dati naalala ko tinantong mo kung marunong magtagalog. maiinam pala talga na wag agad agad nagtitiwala sa mga humihingi ng reservation. ingat po tayo.

icebreaker1928

<blockquote rel="aolee">@iceBreaker, no wonder nung may nag post ng FOR RENT na humihingi ng resertvation dati naalala ko tinantong mo kung marunong magtagalog. maiinam pala talga na wag agad agad nagtitiwala sa mga humihingi ng reservation. ingat po tayo.</blockquote>

yes boss... kaya naka red flag agad saken yung nag ads na yun dati.. tapos inaway pako hehe..

nde kasi ganon ang sistema dito... dapat makita mo muna ang unit...

pag nanghingi ng pera agad agad... scam yun 99.9%

rolf021

I see..ganun rin po ba na kailangan mo muna makita kahit iyung room lang ang pinaparent? Like..iyung flatnirerent miya tapos naghahanap siya ng flatmate

icebreaker1928

@rolf021 most probably sir, ganon din dapat ang kalakaran nun...

dapat talaga makita mo muna yung lugar...

what if nung makita mo yung place e 4 pala kayo sa room..

or yung lugar e hindi maganda para sayo...

you can still backout... basta rule of thumb... see the unit first before paying anything.

rolf021

@icebreaker1928 - kaya parang first week sa backpacker lodge para mura and ang gagawin is hanap kaagad ng place to stay.

Aiwink

<blockquote rel="Bryann">It must be this guy.

https://twitter.com/CLudwig20

http://pinterest.com/cludwig20/

I'm also thinking, maybe it was him who leased the house.. for $650/week, then is just looking for a flatmate to share the burden of rent with. Could be entirely possible. As for land title, is he saying he owns the place? Coz the link at RayWhite real estate clearly states it is for lease. For the passport, I might be wrong but it is not as easy as in Phils to get a fake passport or any documents.

You can also keep copies of your communication and receipts of deposit. That way when you get here in Australia, if ever he is indeed a scammer, you can communicate with NSW Police.

Looks like he had the same posting before, but later removed it. Availability was December. The one you mentioned is for November.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:bGIOfBkZHg8J:flatmates.com.au/property.html%3Fid%3D133490+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au&client=firefox-a

HTH</blockquote>

Woooow!

Parang may sariling logarithm na ikaw sa pag background check ah... Galing!

Saken

Nabasa ko ito sa Sydney Morning Herald. Although matagal na yung article, itong-ito yung scam na nidescribe ni @sofabed

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/exposed-sydneys-great-rental-ripoff-20100410-rzsf.html

Tungkol sa rental bonds or deposits, usually sa Department of Fair Trading nakapangalan yun. So magpapagawa ng bank cheque tapos nakaaddress sa DFT. Sa end ng contract na lang ito ibabalik sa iyo pero depende sa assessment ng nagpaparenta kung kelangan bawasan yung amount para sa repairs or damages kung meron man.

Saka alam ko illegal ang magparent by yourself. Dapat dumadaan sa licensed agents.

Mas maganda tumingin sa realstate.com.au or domain.com.au para sa apartments for rent kasi mga agents ang nagaadvertise. Examples ng property agencies dito sa NSW are Ray White, LJ Hooker, Jackson and Rowe, ...

Lastly, try downloading the "Scam Buster" iOS or Android App ng Department of Fair Trading. Malaking tulong din para mainform sa scams dito sa AU. Kung di naman, pwede rin bisitahin website ng DFT.

sofabed

@Bryann it is confirmed a scam, di na nag reply sa amin. na report ko na rin sa flatmates. also saw the pictures in twitter but the passport he provided has different pic..

sofabed

@Bryann it is confirmed a scam, di na nag reply sa amin. na report ko na rin sa flatmates. also saw the pictures in twitter but the passport he provided has different pic..

sofabed

@Saken thanks!

sofabed

@icebreaker1928 lalaki po ako sir. 🙂 ok naman po, meron na kami kahit papano prospect na tutuluyan.. nirefer ni @barloval ..

sofabed

@kenkoy too late sir, nabasa ko lang din mga samples after mag deposit.. tsk

sofabed

@shishi hi, anjan na po ba kayo? magkano po rent kung 2 kami ng sister ko? boy po ako 🙂

Bryann

Here is some useful information regarding this, to avoid being scammed.. and in the case you were, there are links in the page to report those scumbags.

http://flatmates.com.au/content.php/56.html

Nadine

@sofabed: naghahanap din kayo? Saan kayong state punta ulit ng sis mo? 🙂

shishi

<blockquote rel="sofabed">@shishi hi, anjan na po ba kayo? magkano po rent kung 2 kami ng sister ko? boy po ako 🙂</blockquote>

hello! opo andito nako pero taken na po lhat ng rooms...

sofabed

@shishi ok thanks! 🙂

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