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Employment Experience

Good Day mga kababayan,

Ako po ay isang IT Developer. Tulad ninyo gusto ko rin po'ng makapag migrate sa AU.

May Company po kasi na hindi ko nais ilagay sa aking working experience. Naging maayos po ang pag alis ko sa kanila peru di po siya masasabing "graceful exit". Ito po ay noong 2011 pa.

Kung di ko ilagay ang company na ito mas makabu-buti po ba sa aking application?

O

malalaman at malalaman din ng immigration ang tungkol dito, at kailangan ko siyang ilagay? ( Paano ko po maipapaliwanag ito, sa paraang hindi makompromiso ang aking visa application )

Salamat sa inyong mga payo,
sanjuam

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  • baikenbaiken QLD
    Posts: 456Member
    Joined: Feb 23, 2018

    @sanjuam said:
    Good Day mga kababayan,

    Ako po ay isang IT Developer. Tulad ninyo gusto ko rin po'ng makapag migrate sa AU.

    May Company po kasi na hindi ko nais ilagay sa aking working experience. Naging maayos po ang pag alis ko sa kanila peru di po siya masasabing "graceful exit". Ito po ay noong 2011 pa.

    Kung di ko ilagay ang company na ito mas makabu-buti po ba sa aking application?

    O

    malalaman at malalaman din ng immigration ang tungkol dito, at kailangan ko siyang ilagay? ( Paano ko po maipapaliwanag ito, sa paraang hindi makompromiso ang aking visa application )

    Salamat sa inyong mga payo,
    sanjuam

    good am sir, i believe you would need to still get the relevant documents from "that" previous company kasi magiging butas yung employment record mo... mahirap ipaliwanag yun for me sa asessing authority mo...

    may ITA na sir? EOI pa lang? VISA application na po ba?

    all the best po!

    lets also wait the expert opinions of our fellow forum members here!

    God Bless on your AU Journey po!

    263111 Computer Network and Systems Engineer | Age: 25 | Education: 15 | English: 20 | Experience: 10 | PY: 5 | CCL: 5
    Total: 80/85 on Visa 189/190 Respectively

    23.02.2018 | Signed up for the forum. Started gathering Documents and Reviewing for IELTS.
    01.06.2018 | Company offered to provide 482 Visa, GRABBED IT!!!
    15.10.2018 | 482 Visa Lodged
    13.11.2018 | 482 Visa Granted
    POEA Processing = took me almost a year to get all documents in place.

    07.06.2019 | Finally the BM!!!
    01.10.2019 | Started to review for PTE, aiming for Superior scores!
    23.02.2020 | PTE Mock Test = L=68/R=64/S=90/W=77
    29.02.2020 | PTE Test = L=90/R=85/S=90/W=85 - Got SUPERIOR on the 1st try! Thank You Lord!!!
    01.03.2020 | EOI Lodged for Visa 189/190 NSW (80/85)
    10.06.2020 | EOI Updated due to PY point addition (80/85)
    24.09.2020 | EOI Updated due to Passing NAATI CCL (85/90)
    10.05.2021 | Pursuing 186 (DE) - Thank God for His Favour!!!
    11.03.2022 | Visa 186 (DE) - Nomination and Visa Application Lodged... Now the waiting begins...
    14.01.2023 | Visa 186 (DE) - GRANTED!!! THANK YOU LORD!!!

    Citizenship Timeline:
    22.01.2024 | Citizenship Application made online. THANK YOU LORD!!!
    27.02.2024 | Citizenship Interview & Test Appointment letter Received
    11.04.2024 | Citizenship Test passed @ 100%!!! THANK YOU LORD!!!
    11.07.2024 | Citizenship Approval!!! THANK YOU LORD!!!
    29.10.2024 | Citizenship Invite Received

    Jeremiah 29:11
    For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.

  • sanjuamsanjuam Posts: 21Member
    Joined: Aug 21, 2020

    @baiken

    Sir nag sisimula pa lang akong mag gather ng mga related documents (COE, TOR at etc...). Hindi ko pa po talaga nasubukan mag reach out since 2011 sa previous employer na ito kung sakali ngayon pa lang.

    Sir, anu po ulit ang ITA? sa totoo lang po puro basa pa lang ako at nood ng mga vlog sa youtube. At lahat po sa kanila itong forum na ito ang itinuturo :smiley:

  • ga2auga2au NSW
    Posts: 1,204Member, Moderator
    Joined: Aug 28, 2018

    It's fine not to get any documents from them of you didn't include it in your years of experience. But even though hindi mo siya sinama sa pina assess mong experience, u still need to disclose it on your resume.

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    2020 Jun 23 -Frontload Form 815_Health undertaking
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    2022 Nov 25- Golden Grant!

  • OzlazOzlaz Melbourne
    Posts: 586Member
    Joined: Nov 13, 2016

    @sanjuam said:
    @baiken

    Sir nag sisimula pa lang akong mag gather ng mga related documents (COE, TOR at etc...). Hindi ko pa po talaga nasubukan mag reach out since 2011 sa previous employer na ito kung sakali ngayon pa lang.

    Sir, anu po ulit ang ITA? sa totoo lang po puro basa pa lang ako at nood ng mga vlog sa youtube. At lahat po sa kanila itong forum na ito ang itinuturo :smiley:

    I think kahit ano pinagdaanan nyo ng employer nyo, pag nag reach out sa kanila na humihingi ka ng coe, required silang ibigay yun sayo.. hindi mo ba sila kailangan for your points?

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  • RheaMARN1171933RheaMARN1171933 Posts: 2,764Member, Administrator, Moderator
    Joined: Mar 10, 2016
    edited August 2020

    The assessing officer will not at all question that employment experience if you are not claiming it. They will only assess the work you’re claiming as relevant in your application. Neither would immigration dwell on that employment. Don’t worry too much.

    As an agent I would still not rule this experience out especially if it’s a significant amount of time. You may be able to supply sufficient documents, all depends on what you are able to manage...best to seek professional help on this matter if you’re not sure how to go about it.

    xiaoxuebaiken
  • RheaMARN1171933RheaMARN1171933 Posts: 2,764Member, Administrator, Moderator
    Joined: Mar 10, 2016

    @Ozlaz said:

    @sanjuam said:
    @baiken

    Sir nag sisimula pa lang akong mag gather ng mga related documents (COE, TOR at etc...). Hindi ko pa po talaga nasubukan mag reach out since 2011 sa previous employer na ito kung sakali ngayon pa lang.

    Sir, anu po ulit ang ITA? sa totoo lang po puro basa pa lang ako at nood ng mga vlog sa youtube. At lahat po sa kanila itong forum na ito ang itinuturo :smiley:

    I think kahit ano pinagdaanan nyo ng employer nyo, pag nag reach out sa kanila na humihingi ka ng coe, required silang ibigay yun sayo.. hindi mo ba sila kailangan for your points?

    COE isn’t sufficient as this only confirms the employment. Employment reference is always required by any skills assessing authority and immigration department.

  • sanjuamsanjuam Posts: 21Member
    Joined: Aug 21, 2020

    Maraming salamat po sa feedback ninyo.

    @RheaMARN1171933
    nagtagal po ako sa employer na ito ng halos 8 months kasama na po ang 30 days notice. Ang isang kadahilanan kung bakit hindi ko rin po nais isama ang employer na ito sa aking application ay ang
    aking exposure during my tenure back in 2011-12; Hindi ko rin po kasi nagagamit sa kasalukuyan.

  • baikenbaiken QLD
    Posts: 456Member
    Joined: Feb 23, 2018

    @sanjuam said:
    @baiken

    Sir nag sisimula pa lang akong mag gather ng mga related documents (COE, TOR at etc...). Hindi ko pa po talaga nasubukan mag reach out since 2011 sa previous employer na ito kung sakali ngayon pa lang.

    Sir, anu po ulit ang ITA? sa totoo lang po puro basa pa lang ako at nood ng mga vlog sa youtube. At lahat po sa kanila itong forum na ito ang itinuturo :smiley:

    ITA is Invitation To Apply po ang ibig sabihin... for now I would suggest basa po kayo further details on the forum on how to prepare :)

    don't worry po, madami ang mga kapwa nating forum members na makakatulong po sa inyo lalo na at may tanong po kayo.

    all the best sir!

    keep on chasing the AU dream kasi for sure po kayang-kaya nyo po yun!

    God Bless!

    sanjuam

    263111 Computer Network and Systems Engineer | Age: 25 | Education: 15 | English: 20 | Experience: 10 | PY: 5 | CCL: 5
    Total: 80/85 on Visa 189/190 Respectively

    23.02.2018 | Signed up for the forum. Started gathering Documents and Reviewing for IELTS.
    01.06.2018 | Company offered to provide 482 Visa, GRABBED IT!!!
    15.10.2018 | 482 Visa Lodged
    13.11.2018 | 482 Visa Granted
    POEA Processing = took me almost a year to get all documents in place.

    07.06.2019 | Finally the BM!!!
    01.10.2019 | Started to review for PTE, aiming for Superior scores!
    23.02.2020 | PTE Mock Test = L=68/R=64/S=90/W=77
    29.02.2020 | PTE Test = L=90/R=85/S=90/W=85 - Got SUPERIOR on the 1st try! Thank You Lord!!!
    01.03.2020 | EOI Lodged for Visa 189/190 NSW (80/85)
    10.06.2020 | EOI Updated due to PY point addition (80/85)
    24.09.2020 | EOI Updated due to Passing NAATI CCL (85/90)
    10.05.2021 | Pursuing 186 (DE) - Thank God for His Favour!!!
    11.03.2022 | Visa 186 (DE) - Nomination and Visa Application Lodged... Now the waiting begins...
    14.01.2023 | Visa 186 (DE) - GRANTED!!! THANK YOU LORD!!!

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    22.01.2024 | Citizenship Application made online. THANK YOU LORD!!!
    27.02.2024 | Citizenship Interview & Test Appointment letter Received
    11.04.2024 | Citizenship Test passed @ 100%!!! THANK YOU LORD!!!
    11.07.2024 | Citizenship Approval!!! THANK YOU LORD!!!
    29.10.2024 | Citizenship Invite Received

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  • tigerlancetigerlance Philippines
    Posts: 567Member
    Joined: Mar 09, 2018

    For me, kailangan ideclare.

    a) EA (assessment) dun sa Resume/ Curriculum Vitae
    b) Application sa Immi
    c) Form 80
    d) Form 1221 - Fill the gaps that you are unemployed (dito palang kailangan mo ideclare lahat)

    Kung di mo siya ideclare, makikita yan sa isusubmit mo sa ITR, pagibig contrutions, phil health, sss
    Magtataka sila kung meron kang contribution pero di mo dineclare

    Opinion ko lang, kasi magcocorelate lahat sa application mo.

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    28/11/2019 NBI Application. (HIT)
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    14/01/2020 Received Sponsorship Documents
    20/01/2020 Payroll Statement of Account
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    28/01/2020 E medical No Action Required. Nationwide Submitted to DHA
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  • Captain_ACaptain_A AUSTRALIA
    Posts: 2,179Member, Moderator
    Joined: Jul 04, 2012

    @sanjuam said:
    Good Day mga kababayan,

    Ako po ay isang IT Developer. Tulad ninyo gusto ko rin po'ng makapag migrate sa AU.

    May Company po kasi na hindi ko nais ilagay sa aking working experience. Naging maayos po ang pag alis ko sa kanila peru di po siya masasabing "graceful exit". Ito po ay noong 2011 pa.

    Kung di ko ilagay ang company na ito mas makabu-buti po ba sa aking application?

    O

    malalaman at malalaman din ng immigration ang tungkol dito, at kailangan ko siyang ilagay? ( Paano ko po maipapaliwanag ito, sa paraang hindi makompromiso ang aking visa application )

    Salamat sa inyong mga payo,
    sanjuam

    you may declare but not claim points para hndi na tanungin s app mo

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  • sanjuamsanjuam Posts: 21Member
    Joined: Aug 21, 2020

    Hello po mga kababayan,

    Just an update lang sa concern ko. Nag email po ako sa Employer ako na hindi naging "graceful" ang exit ko. They are accomodating po to process my COE, just waiting for an update when to release my COE. Thank you lord!

    Siguro po ang concern ko naman po ngayon, is yung content ng COE. May naponood po kasi ako sa Youtube na vlog ng isa nating kababayan. Pinakita niya ang dapat laman ng COE tulad ng Roles and Responsibilities, Dry seal etc..

    Sa kasamaang palad, nung nag email po ako sa iba kong employer na nakapag issue na ng COE may hindi po pumayag na mag release ulit dahil sa Confidential daw po sa company ang roles and responsibilities
    at di na sila nag dry seal dahil digital sign na daw ang uso ngayon.

    Sapat na po kaya ang Standard COE na mayroon ako ngayon, sasamahan ko na lang po sana ng ilang documents na magpapatunay ng aking employment?

    O may iba pa po kayong opinyon?

    Salamat,
    -sanjuam

  • ga2auga2au NSW
    Posts: 1,204Member, Moderator
    Joined: Aug 28, 2018

    @sanjuam said:
    Hello po mga kababayan,

    Just an update lang sa concern ko. Nag email po ako sa Employer ako na hindi naging "graceful" ang exit ko. They are accomodating po to process my COE, just waiting for an update when to release my COE. Thank you lord!

    Siguro po ang concern ko naman po ngayon, is yung content ng COE. May naponood po kasi ako sa Youtube na vlog ng isa nating kababayan. Pinakita niya ang dapat laman ng COE tulad ng Roles and Responsibilities, Dry seal etc..

    Sa kasamaang palad, nung nag email po ako sa iba kong employer na nakapag issue na ng COE may hindi po pumayag na mag release ulit dahil sa Confidential daw po sa company ang roles and responsibilities
    at di na sila nag dry seal dahil digital sign na daw ang uso ngayon.

    Sapat na po kaya ang Standard COE na mayroon ako ngayon, sasamahan ko na lang po sana ng ilang documents na magpapatunay ng aking employment?

    O may iba pa po kayong opinyon?

    Salamat,
    -sanjuam

    Ang ginwa ko sakin, dalawa documents na nanggaling sa isang company. Yung isa standard form ng company hr na nakalagay na permanent ako nagwowowrk dun, dates of employment salary and hours per week.
    Tapos kinausap ko Manager ko nun. Siya nagbigay ng mga roles and responsibilities ko in same company letterhead. So na fulfill yung requirements ko sa COe. Dalawang tao nga lang pinanggalingan. Isa sa HR isa sa Manager.

    sanjuamanna_m

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    2018 Oct- Lodged VETASSESS application
    2018 Dec- PTE Test
    2018 Dec- Proficient
    2019 Mar- VETASSESS Positive Outcome
    2019 Jun- Created EOI for NSW
    2019 Jun- Applied SA 489
    2019 Aug- Invitation to apply from SA 489
    2019 Aug- Lodge Visa Application SA 489
    2019 Sep 09- Medical
    2019 Sep 11- Medical deferred
    2019 Oct 19- Start TB treatment
    2019 Oct 21- Pre-invite from NSW 190
    2019 Oct 26- Invitation to apply from NSW Visa 190
    2019 Oct 24- Pre-invite from ACT 190 ( Didn't pursue it because lack of job opportunities)
    2019 Nov 10- Lodge NSW Visa 190
    2020 Jan - Withdrawn Visa 489
    2020 Apr 16- Finished TB treatment ( yey! )
    2020 Jun 08-Sputum results negative
    2020 Jun 12-Panel physician sent emedical ( Awaiting for clearance )
    2020 Jun 23 -Medical Health cleared ( Sa wakas Praise God! )
    2020 Jun 23 -Frontload Form 815_Health undertaking
    2022 Aug 22 - CO Contacted me for new Medicals, PCC and Form 80
    2022 Sept 7 - Uploaded requested documents.
    2022 Nov 25- Golden Grant!

  • MikiMiki Singapore
    Posts: 24Member
    Joined: Jun 10, 2020

    @sanjuam said:
    Hello po mga kababayan,

    Just an update lang sa concern ko. Nag email po ako sa Employer ako na hindi naging "graceful" ang exit ko. They are accomodating po to process my COE, just waiting for an update when to release my COE. Thank you lord!

    Siguro po ang concern ko naman po ngayon, is yung content ng COE. May naponood po kasi ako sa Youtube na vlog ng isa nating kababayan. Pinakita niya ang dapat laman ng COE tulad ng Roles and Responsibilities, Dry seal etc..

    Sa kasamaang palad, nung nag email po ako sa iba kong employer na nakapag issue na ng COE may hindi po pumayag na mag release ulit dahil sa Confidential daw po sa company ang roles and responsibilities
    at di na sila nag dry seal dahil digital sign na daw ang uso ngayon.

    Sapat na po kaya ang Standard COE na mayroon ako ngayon, sasamahan ko na lang po sana ng ilang documents na magpapatunay ng aking employment?

    O may iba pa po kayong opinyon?

    Salamat,
    -sanjuam

    Ung sakin dati, meron akong employer na hindi din nagbibigay ng detailed roles..Ang ginawa ko is nag attach ako ng standard CoE and affidavit ng 1 officemate ko (with atty ito na affidavit, tas andun ung roles/responsibilities namin since same team kami) Best if Manager pero that time kasi nasa pinas ang ex-manager ko,, nasa Singapore na ako nagwowork at may officemate ako na ex-colleague ko din sa pinas na company na yun. sa sg namin ginawa ung affidavit (both personal appearance kami sa harap ng atty)..Then other inattached pa other docs like payslip, ITR,SSS contribution..

    sanjuam
  • RheaMARN1171933RheaMARN1171933 Posts: 2,764Member, Administrator, Moderator
    Joined: Mar 10, 2016
    edited August 2020

    @Miki said:

    @sanjuam said:
    Hello po mga kababayan,

    Just an update lang sa concern ko. Nag email po ako sa Employer ako na hindi naging "graceful" ang exit ko. They are accomodating po to process my COE, just waiting for an update when to release my COE. Thank you lord!

    Siguro po ang concern ko naman po ngayon, is yung content ng COE. May naponood po kasi ako sa Youtube na vlog ng isa nating kababayan. Pinakita niya ang dapat laman ng COE tulad ng Roles and Responsibilities, Dry seal etc..

    Sa kasamaang palad, nung nag email po ako sa iba kong employer na nakapag issue na ng COE may hindi po pumayag na mag release ulit dahil sa Confidential daw po sa company ang roles and responsibilities
    at di na sila nag dry seal dahil digital sign na daw ang uso ngayon.

    Sapat na po kaya ang Standard COE na mayroon ako ngayon, sasamahan ko na lang po sana ng ilang documents na magpapatunay ng aking employment?

    O may iba pa po kayong opinyon?

    Salamat,
    -sanjuam

    Ung sakin dati, meron akong employer na hindi din nagbibigay ng detailed roles..Ang ginawa ko is nag attach ako ng standard CoE and affidavit ng 1 officemate ko (with atty ito na affidavit, tas andun ung roles/responsibilities namin since same team kami) Best if Manager pero that time kasi nasa pinas ang ex-manager ko,, nasa Singapore na ako nagwowork at may officemate ako na ex-colleague ko din sa pinas na company na yun. sa sg namin ginawa ung affidavit (both personal appearance kami sa harap ng atty)..Then other inattached pa other docs like payslip, ITR,SSS contribution..

    I’ve mentioned a few times over the forum that COE isn’t what the skills assessing authorities and DHA is asking for. They require employment reference letters. There is a difference between the two. Feel free to google it. Hope that helps :)

    sanjuambaiken
  • tigerlancetigerlance Philippines
    Posts: 567Member
    Joined: Mar 09, 2018

    @sanjuam said:
    Hello po mga kababayan,

    Just an update lang sa concern ko. Nag email po ako sa Employer ako na hindi naging "graceful" ang exit ko. They are accomodating po to process my COE, just waiting for an update when to release my COE. Thank you lord!

    Siguro po ang concern ko naman po ngayon, is yung content ng COE. May naponood po kasi ako sa Youtube na vlog ng isa nating kababayan. Pinakita niya ang dapat laman ng COE tulad ng Roles and Responsibilities, Dry seal etc..

    Sa kasamaang palad, nung nag email po ako sa iba kong employer na nakapag issue na ng COE may hindi po pumayag na mag release ulit dahil sa Confidential daw po sa company ang roles and responsibilities
    at di na sila nag dry seal dahil digital sign na daw ang uso ngayon.

    Sapat na po kaya ang Standard COE na mayroon ako ngayon, sasamahan ko na lang po sana ng ilang documents na magpapatunay ng aking employment?

    O may iba pa po kayong opinyon?

    Salamat,
    -sanjuam

    I guess kahit mahirap pakisamahan ang employer, dapat never burn bridges with them. Hindi natin alam kung kakailangan natin sila in the future. Yun kasi ang requirement in black and white, pwede ka naman gumawa then ipapirmahan mo sa supervisor mo. Siyempre kung anong nakasulat doon, yun dapat talaga ang ginagawa mo para hindi nakakahiyang magpapirma sa dati mong supervisor.

    I guess, pwede mo naman sila bisitahin personally para maayos yung differences mo between with the previious employer. Baka mairon things out, malay mo sila ang tutulong sa iyo.

    Ito ay hula ko lang sa hindi naging graceful exit. Pagiba yung nasa isip ko, kindly disregard my message.

    Mahirap talaga ang kumuha ng ganitong format ng reference letter sa Filipino Setting.

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    09/10/2018 0600H EA Queued for Assessment
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    16/11/2019 1326H EOI Lodged 491 Family Sponsored 90 pts.
    28/11/2019 NBI Application. (HIT)
    09/12/2019 NBI Clearance Claimed at NBI Ermita for Faster processing
    09/01/2020 2100H ITA 491
    14/01/2020 Received Sponsorship Documents
    20/01/2020 Payroll Statement of Account
    27/01/2020 E medical at Nationwide Baguio
    28/01/2020 E medical No Action Required. Nationwide Submitted to DHA
    29/01/2020 Received Current Payslip
    02/02/2020 SSS Inquiry System
    07/02/2020 Reference Letter Current
    07/02/2020 Provident Fund Update
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    12/02/2020 BIR Form 2316 updated to 2019
    15/02/2020 Lodgment of Visa. Frontloaded all Docs including Form 80, 1221, 1281, medicals as per guidelines
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    07/05/2020 CO allocated
    27/10/2020 Direct Grant. No CO Contact.
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  • MikiMiki Singapore
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    Joined: Jun 10, 2020

    @RheaMARN1171933 said:

    @Miki said:

    @sanjuam said:
    Hello po mga kababayan,

    Just an update lang sa concern ko. Nag email po ako sa Employer ako na hindi naging "graceful" ang exit ko. They are accomodating po to process my COE, just waiting for an update when to release my COE. Thank you lord!

    Siguro po ang concern ko naman po ngayon, is yung content ng COE. May naponood po kasi ako sa Youtube na vlog ng isa nating kababayan. Pinakita niya ang dapat laman ng COE tulad ng Roles and Responsibilities, Dry seal etc..

    Sa kasamaang palad, nung nag email po ako sa iba kong employer na nakapag issue na ng COE may hindi po pumayag na mag release ulit dahil sa Confidential daw po sa company ang roles and responsibilities
    at di na sila nag dry seal dahil digital sign na daw ang uso ngayon.

    Sapat na po kaya ang Standard COE na mayroon ako ngayon, sasamahan ko na lang po sana ng ilang documents na magpapatunay ng aking employment?

    O may iba pa po kayong opinyon?

    Salamat,
    -sanjuam

    Ung sakin dati, meron akong employer na hindi din nagbibigay ng detailed roles..Ang ginawa ko is nag attach ako ng standard CoE and affidavit ng 1 officemate ko (with atty ito na affidavit, tas andun ung roles/responsibilities namin since same team kami) Best if Manager pero that time kasi nasa pinas ang ex-manager ko,, nasa Singapore na ako nagwowork at may officemate ako na ex-colleague ko din sa pinas na company na yun. sa sg namin ginawa ung affidavit (both personal appearance kami sa harap ng atty)..Then other inattached pa other docs like payslip, ITR,SSS contribution..

    I’ve mentioned a few times over the forum that COE isn’t what the skills assessing authorities and DHA is asking for. They require employment reference letters. There is a difference between the two. Feel free to google it. Hope that helps :)

    Ayy mali po ba yung ginawa ko dati? medyo matagal na din kasi 2 yrs ago pa yun..wala naman kasi ako na encounter na problem sa EA at naging ok naman without additional documents na hiningi. If mali, kindly disregard that experience sharing baka hindi makatulong kay @sanjuam ..Thanks

  • RheaMARN1171933RheaMARN1171933 Posts: 2,764Member, Administrator, Moderator
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    @Miki said:

    @RheaMARN1171933 said:

    @Miki said:

    @sanjuam said:
    Hello po mga kababayan,

    Just an update lang sa concern ko. Nag email po ako sa Employer ako na hindi naging "graceful" ang exit ko. They are accomodating po to process my COE, just waiting for an update when to release my COE. Thank you lord!

    Siguro po ang concern ko naman po ngayon, is yung content ng COE. May naponood po kasi ako sa Youtube na vlog ng isa nating kababayan. Pinakita niya ang dapat laman ng COE tulad ng Roles and Responsibilities, Dry seal etc..

    Sa kasamaang palad, nung nag email po ako sa iba kong employer na nakapag issue na ng COE may hindi po pumayag na mag release ulit dahil sa Confidential daw po sa company ang roles and responsibilities
    at di na sila nag dry seal dahil digital sign na daw ang uso ngayon.

    Sapat na po kaya ang Standard COE na mayroon ako ngayon, sasamahan ko na lang po sana ng ilang documents na magpapatunay ng aking employment?

    O may iba pa po kayong opinyon?

    Salamat,
    -sanjuam

    Ung sakin dati, meron akong employer na hindi din nagbibigay ng detailed roles..Ang ginawa ko is nag attach ako ng standard CoE and affidavit ng 1 officemate ko (with atty ito na affidavit, tas andun ung roles/responsibilities namin since same team kami) Best if Manager pero that time kasi nasa pinas ang ex-manager ko,, nasa Singapore na ako nagwowork at may officemate ako na ex-colleague ko din sa pinas na company na yun. sa sg namin ginawa ung affidavit (both personal appearance kami sa harap ng atty)..Then other inattached pa other docs like payslip, ITR,SSS contribution..

    I’ve mentioned a few times over the forum that COE isn’t what the skills assessing authorities and DHA is asking for. They require employment reference letters. There is a difference between the two. Feel free to google it. Hope that helps :)

    Ayy mali po ba yung ginawa ko dati? medyo matagal na din kasi 2 yrs ago pa yun..wala naman kasi ako na encounter na problem sa EA at naging ok naman without additional documents na hiningi. If mali, kindly disregard that experience sharing baka hindi makatulong kay @sanjuam ..Thanks

    Not saying it was wrong, I was clarifying the use of term - COE vs employment reference letter. One needs to understand the difference.

  • baikenbaiken QLD
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    sadly, totoo po to, napakahirap kumuha ng "detailed" employment reference letter sa pinas, binigay mo na format, meron pa din sariling format yung "HR" themselves, di ko alam kung gusto ba nila tayo tulungan, o crab mentality lang ng pinoy :( pwede din naman na di sila pwede sumuway sa utos ng higher ups kasi nga meron sila sariling format when it comes to giving employment reference letters (again, akala nila e COE to...), pero sana naman, they try to help out or kahit man lang explain yung circumstances di ba? :)

    this happened with my 3rd employer, COE ang binigay ni HR (although, ipinasa ko sa kanila yung main roles and responsibilities ko, pirma lang need sa kanila), humingi na lang ako ng statutory declaration from my "colleague" na dun pa din nagwowork (pina-notarize pa nung colleague ko, buti kumare ko!), tapos sinamahan ko ng payslip (buti parati ako nag-screenshot ng payslip kasi web based sya, walang paper trail sadly), ayun tinanggap naman ng assessing authority ko which was ACS...

    all the best po sa inyong pag-aapply, and wag susuko, just need to really pay attention to detail and make sure na yung format ng assessing authority ang susundin po natin para walang problema pag pinasa natin sa kanila...

    God Bless!

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  • Temp1Temp1 Posts: 16Member
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    @baiken said:
    sadly, totoo po to, napakahirap kumuha ng "detailed" employment reference letter sa pinas, binigay mo na format, meron pa din sariling format yung "HR" themselves, di ko alam kung gusto ba nila tayo tulungan, o crab mentality lang ng pinoy :( pwede din naman na di sila pwede sumuway sa utos ng higher ups kasi nga meron sila sariling format when it comes to giving employment reference letters (again, akala nila e COE to...), pero sana naman, they try to help out or kahit man lang explain yung circumstances di ba? :)

    this happened with my 3rd employer, COE ang binigay ni HR (although, ipinasa ko sa kanila yung main roles and responsibilities ko, pirma lang need sa kanila), humingi na lang ako ng statutory declaration from my "colleague" na dun pa din nagwowork (pina-notarize pa nung colleague ko, buti kumare ko!), tapos sinamahan ko ng payslip (buti parati ako nag-screenshot ng payslip kasi web based sya, walang paper trail sadly), ayun tinanggap naman ng assessing authority ko which was ACS...

    all the best po sa inyong pag-aapply, and wag susuko, just need to really pay attention to detail and make sure na yung format ng assessing authority ang susundin po natin para walang problema pag pinasa natin sa kanila...

    God Bless!

    Common nga ito sa corporates, sa mas maliliit na company di naman masyado. Kung nag wowork ka sa corporate, better na may good relationship ka sa superiors mo, for employment reference, you can ask them to write one for you based on the template, usually may access naman sila sa official letterheads.

  • RheaMARN1171933RheaMARN1171933 Posts: 2,764Member, Administrator, Moderator
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    @Temp1 said:

    @baiken said:
    sadly, totoo po to, napakahirap kumuha ng "detailed" employment reference letter sa pinas, binigay mo na format, meron pa din sariling format yung "HR" themselves, di ko alam kung gusto ba nila tayo tulungan, o crab mentality lang ng pinoy :( pwede din naman na di sila pwede sumuway sa utos ng higher ups kasi nga meron sila sariling format when it comes to giving employment reference letters (again, akala nila e COE to...), pero sana naman, they try to help out or kahit man lang explain yung circumstances di ba? :)

    this happened with my 3rd employer, COE ang binigay ni HR (although, ipinasa ko sa kanila yung main roles and responsibilities ko, pirma lang need sa kanila), humingi na lang ako ng statutory declaration from my "colleague" na dun pa din nagwowork (pina-notarize pa nung colleague ko, buti kumare ko!), tapos sinamahan ko ng payslip (buti parati ako nag-screenshot ng payslip kasi web based sya, walang paper trail sadly), ayun tinanggap naman ng assessing authority ko which was ACS...

    all the best po sa inyong pag-aapply, and wag susuko, just need to really pay attention to detail and make sure na yung format ng assessing authority ang susundin po natin para walang problema pag pinasa natin sa kanila...

    God Bless!

    Common nga ito sa corporates, sa mas maliliit na company di naman masyado. Kung nag wowork ka sa corporate, better na may good relationship ka sa superiors mo, for employment reference, you can ask them to write one for you based on the template, usually may access naman sila sa official letterheads.

    I believe it’s how things are done and dealt with with the employer. I don’t recall experiencing such difficulties with my clients from the Philippines. Regardless of the size of the companies.

  • MikeYanbuMikeYanbu Albion Victoria
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    Sharing my experience na lang din sa lahat kong work experience, i make sure na may naitago akong blank stationary with letterhead. ang ginawa ko nag draft ako ng employment reference addressing the requirement of Engineers Australia and Immigration para pumirma na lang sila.

    some managers would read it and do some editing to make it better, some would simply read it and sign....

    pag ready na yan at pipirma na lang sila mas madali na lang yan kesa ibigay mo sa kanila ang burden to draft your document which takes ages.

    By the pinersonal ko sila para pumirma and same day naibalik nila sa akin...

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  • Ed510Ed510 Quezon City
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    @MikeYanbu said:
    Sharing my experience na lang din sa lahat kong work experience, i make sure na may naitago akong blank stationary with letterhead. ang ginawa ko nag draft ako ng employment reference addressing the requirement of Engineers Australia and Immigration para pumirma na lang sila.

    some managers would read it and do some editing to make it better, some would simply read it and sign....

    pag ready na yan at pipirma na lang sila mas madali na lang yan kesa ibigay mo sa kanila ang burden to draft your document which takes ages.

    By the pinersonal ko sila para pumirma and same day naibalik nila sa akin...

    Ginagawa ko rin to. Softcopy ng mga letter heads tapos meron ng laman ng job descriptions, computed annual salary. lahat lahat na para e-pa-sign na lang sa Manager.
    Mahirap talaga mga taga HR. May protocol yata sila on COE and certification.

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  • Captain_ACaptain_A AUSTRALIA
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    @Ed510 said:

    Ginagawa ko rin to. Softcopy ng mga letter heads tapos meron ng laman ng job descriptions, computed annual salary. lahat lahat na para e-pa-sign na lang sa Manager.
    Mahirap talaga mga taga HR. May protocol yata sila on COE and certification.

    yes i did this too..

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  • lecialecia Posts: 1,841Member
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    @MikeYanbu said:
    Sharing my experience na lang din sa lahat kong work experience, i make sure na may naitago akong blank stationary with letterhead. ang ginawa ko nag draft ako ng employment reference addressing the requirement of Engineers Australia and Immigration para pumirma na lang sila.

    some managers would read it and do some editing to make it better, some would simply read it and sign....

    pag ready na yan at pipirma na lang sila mas madali na lang yan kesa ibigay mo sa kanila ang burden to draft your document which takes ages.

    By the pinersonal ko sila para pumirma and same day naibalik nila sa akin...

    Meron din ako nito, kumuha ako ng blank copy with company letterhead bago ako umalis sa Pinas nun 2009.. hahaha until now dito pa sya, minsan nga colored scan ko pa para madami copies. Kaya nun assessment ko gumawa ako ng letter tas pina sign ko na lang. Send ko thru email then scanned back with signature sa akin.
    ✨natutunan ko to sa mga seniors ko sa hospital na nag abroad nun mga 2008, ginawa ko din and it worked wonders!!

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  • makimmakim Manila
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    Hi guys in reference to this thread. I have an employer na ayaw akong bigyan ng COE for some reason. And i really need those years of experience to be counted. Is there any way na pwedeng gawin? I can contact my manager from there as a reference for my roles and responsibilities but would that be enough? Thanks in advance.

  • xiaolicoxiaolico Australia
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    @makim said:
    Hi guys in reference to this thread. I have an employer na ayaw akong bigyan ng COE for some reason. And i really need those years of experience to be counted. Is there any way na pwedeng gawin? I can contact my manager from there as a reference for my roles and responsibilities but would that be enough? Thanks in advance.

    Hindi ata puwede yan. actually dapat pag resign mo, bigyan ka nila ng coe. bawal ata yan.

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  • KaidanKaidan Posts: 119Member
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    @makim said:
    Hi guys in reference to this thread. I have an employer na ayaw akong bigyan ng COE for some reason. And i really need those years of experience to be counted. Is there any way na pwedeng gawin? I can contact my manager from there as a reference for my roles and responsibilities but would that be enough? Thanks in advance.

    PH employer ba yan? Nasa labor code na required magbigay ng COE ang employers, actually may timeframe pa nga na dapat silang mag provide. Pwede mo silang ireklamo kung tumatanggi, at least raise mo sa kanila na nasa batas. But as mentioned repeatedly in this whole forum, the standard PH COE is not enough for assessment.

    Pero yes pwede ka naman humingi sa manager mo, basta nasa company letterhead yung reference letter. Kung hindi letterhead, magiging Statutory Declaration na lang yan which you need to notarize then need ng supporting docs like contract and/or payslips.

    makim
  • makimmakim Manila
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    Joined: Feb 04, 2019

    @Kaidan said:

    @makim said:
    Hi guys in reference to this thread. I have an employer na ayaw akong bigyan ng COE for some reason. And i really need those years of experience to be counted. Is there any way na pwedeng gawin? I can contact my manager from there as a reference for my roles and responsibilities but would that be enough? Thanks in advance.

    PH employer ba yan? Nasa labor code na required magbigay ng COE ang employers, actually may timeframe pa nga na dapat silang mag provide. Pwede mo silang ireklamo kung tumatanggi, at least raise mo sa kanila na nasa batas. But as mentioned repeatedly in this whole forum, the standard PH COE is not enough for assessment.

    Pero yes pwede ka naman humingi sa manager mo, basta nasa company letterhead yung reference letter. Kung hindi letterhead, magiging Statutory Declaration na lang yan which you need to notarize then need ng supporting docs like contract and/or payslips.

    Yes, a PH employer. Well actually hinaharang nila ako because of the bond ko daw na hindi ko natapos yung contract pero I rendered and resigned gracefully. So I have the legal obligation daw to pay daw which is very unreasonable and mahal for me. I emailed HR last time and sumagot sakin is yung legal team. Hindi sila explicitly nagsabi na they won't issue me COE but hindi ako binigyan. At ayaw ko din mangulit kasi ako din kukulitin nila.

  • JMLJML Posts: 11Member
    Joined: Sep 20, 2020

    Hello po. Post ko lang po tanong ko. Baka sakali may sumagot. Ako po ay graduate ng Bachelor of Secondary Education sa Pinas, pero ang practice ko po ay mag-manage ng preschool. Kumukuha na po ako ng Master of Educational Management. May chance po ba ako magpa-assess (as a spouse)? For additional points lang po sana. Yong husband ko po talaga ang main applicant.

  • Pandabelle0405Pandabelle0405 Singapore
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    Hi mas ask po ako sa dependent ng main applicant regarding sa employement history kc un iba wala na coe ok lng po ba un di mkapag provide pero idedeclare naman sa cv lahat ng work exp. Salamat po sa mag aadvice.

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