Any members with the same dilemma?
I am quite confused on the wording regarding spouse points/ partner skills.
My wife's occupation is listed in Short term skilled (STSOL). Positive skills assessment obtained. Competent english
My occupation is listed in Medium and Long term (MLTLSSL). Positive skills assessment obtained. Competent english
Since we are applying separately for visa (to get more chances). Both of us are applying for visa 190 (as wife is not under 189 stream)
The wording in the immi says must be:
“had nominated a skilled occupation that is on the same skilled occupation list as your nominated skilled occupation”
I am confused with the technicality of this clause.
Can anyone provide guidance please.
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Posts: 338Member
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Both STSOL and MLTSSL are eligible for 190, so I think you can claim points for each other's skilled occupation.
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Posts: 335Member
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Meron kasi ganitong note:
"had nominated a skilled occupation that is on the same skilled occupation list as your nominated skilled occupation"
So kung primary is STSOL, dapat sa STSOL din yung partner mo?
Kung MLTSSL, dapat dun din sa list ng MLTSSL yung partner?
Joined: Nov 04, 2022
My understanding with this is that both occupations that you are claiming points for should be eligible under the same Subclass. For example, if main applicant is applying for 190, the partner's skill should also be available for 190. Applicant cannot claim points if partner's occupation is only available under 491.
When you submit the EOI, you will be asked to enter the ANZSCO code of your partner's occupation and it will recognize if you are eligible to claim points for it. It will give you a summary of points at the end.
491 Visa: Human Resource Adviser - 223111 (80 points) | Age: 15 | English: 10 | Work: 15 | Education : 15 | Partner : 10 | Nomination: 15
09 Aug 2016 - VETASSESS Initial, Positive
03 Jan 2020 - VETASSESS Reassessment, Positive
29 Jan 2020 - EOI submitted for 491 (NSW) - 65 pts
10 Feb 2020 - IELTS, Proficient
15 Feb 2020 - EOI updated - 75 pts
18 Jan 2022 - VETASSESS Renewal
14 Oct 2022 - EOI submitted for 491 (NSW) - 80 pts
10 Nov 2022 - Pre-invite received from NSW, applied on the same day
18 Nov 2022 - NSW Nomination approved
21 Nov 2022 - 491 Visa Lodged
22 Nov 2022 - Submitted Forms 80 and 1221
25 Nov 2022 - Medical exam and Biometrics
6 Dec 2022 - Additional medical check requested for 1 dependent
3 Jan 2023 - Complete health clearance
5 Jun 2023 - Immi Assessment Commenced email received
20 Jul 2023 - Visa Grant
Joined: Mar 10, 2016
Can you clarify, are you applying for a visa separately? Or just lodging your EOI. EOI lodgement us not a visa application.
Posts: 335Member
Joined: Feb 05, 2023
Hi Hi! We intend to lodge the EOI separately and we just want to make we are claiming the points accurately. We are trying to lodge separate EOI so that we have better chances of getting invited.
My wife is under STSOL (only allowed for 190 and not 189) and my nominated occupation is inside MLTSSL (allowed for 189 and 190).
So.... are we able to claim points for each other's EOI application?
Joined: Mar 10, 2016
Both can claim 10 points for 190 and 491. Just enter details on skillselect, it will calculate on its own.
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Joined: May 22, 2019
Hello @Conboyboy, would just like to ask if you claimed points for the partner? I have the same question. I am in MLTSSL and my partner is in STSOL, can I claim for 10 points? my partner has competent English as well. Would appreciate your response. Thank you so much!!
Joined: Mar 10, 2016
You could claim 10 for 190 and 491. 5 on 189.
Posts: 335Member
Joined: Feb 05, 2023
Hi Sometimeshaveasked, i have replied your msg.
Auto claim yan basta i - fill up mo yung EOI mo and your partner accordingly. If I remember correctly, 5 pts lang na claim ko sa wife ko since di kami same stream ng STSOL/MLTSSL.
Ako - CPM - MLTSSL
wife - Specialist Manager NEC - STSOL
Good thing sa 190, plus 5 sa partner, plus 5 sa state. Goods na din naka 10 (total 90). HTH
Posts: 45Member
Joined: Nov 23, 2016
Following this thread and before we proceed on the Vetassess, I would like to ask lang po that if I am an engineer and my wife is a real estate agent and as long as the partner skills are in the system, I can claim for points?
same as the image below,
Posts: 793Member
Joined: Nov 15, 2021
You can claim points as long as you have relevant skills assessment document to provide as proof upon invitation. Otherwise, it's overclaiming of points.
OCCUPATION : SOFTWARE ENGINEER (261313) ~~ DIY. Offshore.
Total Points ~~ NSW SC190: 90pts
Points Breakdown:
Age:25 | English:20 | Employment:15 | Education:15 | Single:10
Been to Australia a few times and I just wanted to settle there. "I belong here" ganon.
~~~~
10 2021 - Research about AU migration; read a lot of related articles; consulted with agent for initial assessment. Decided to DIY.
11 2021 - PTE (Proficient)
11 2021 - Suitable ACS Skills Assessment received (8+ years suitable, 5weeks 4days TAT)
~~~~
01 2022 - EOIs submitted (matumal and slight hiatus since na-busy sa ibang bagay)
~~~~
09 2023 - PTE retake (Superior 90 overall)
09 2023 - Updated EOIs to reflect +10pts on English Test
11 2023 - ACS Assessment expired T_T (but already prepared for re-assessment a few weeks before)
11 2023 - ACS deemed my skills unsuitable because of missing documents. Nilaban ko.
12 2023 - Suitable ACS Skills reassessment (8+ years) after 1month of review and pangungulit (no fee incurred, fault nila)
12 2023 - Some EOIs expired T_T
12 2023 - New EOIs submitted (NSW, VIC, ACT, and 189)
~~~~
02 2024 - Booked NAATI Exam (desperate to max out point for a chance of invite)
02 2024 - Received NSW 190 pre-invite!! ✩₊˚ (tears of joy, TYL! ). Cancelled NAATI test at 75% refund.
02 2024 - Final NSW ITA received after 1 business day ✩₊˚
02 2024 - Visa Lodgement
02 2024 - Medicals. Cleared after 1 business day @ SATA AMK
02 2024 - Singapore Police Clearance. Completed/claimed after 6 business days
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Posts: 45Member
Joined: Nov 23, 2016
Eto lang po kasi ung confusing sa immi website "had nominated a skilled occupation that is on the same skilled occupation list as your nominated skilled occupation" yung word na " same skilled occupation list" po yung medyo confusing..which should I refer to kaya po to check ?
Posts: 793Member
Joined: Nov 15, 2021
"Same skilled occupation list" means you and your partner's nominated anzsco must be both eligible for the same visa subclass you are trying to apply for. Depende yan sa subclass na iaaply nyo. Mababasa mo dito sa eligibilty na kelangan ng skills assessment.
Eligibilty:
https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getting-a-visa/visa-listing/skilled-nominated-190#Eligibility
SOL:
https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia/skill-occupation-list
Upon quick checking, Real Estate Reps are eligible only for 491 and other employer-sponsored subclasses. 190 and 189 not eligible.
OCCUPATION : SOFTWARE ENGINEER (261313) ~~ DIY. Offshore.
Total Points ~~ NSW SC190: 90pts
Points Breakdown:
Age:25 | English:20 | Employment:15 | Education:15 | Single:10
Been to Australia a few times and I just wanted to settle there. "I belong here" ganon.
~~~~
10 2021 - Research about AU migration; read a lot of related articles; consulted with agent for initial assessment. Decided to DIY.
11 2021 - PTE (Proficient)
11 2021 - Suitable ACS Skills Assessment received (8+ years suitable, 5weeks 4days TAT)
~~~~
01 2022 - EOIs submitted (matumal and slight hiatus since na-busy sa ibang bagay)
~~~~
09 2023 - PTE retake (Superior 90 overall)
09 2023 - Updated EOIs to reflect +10pts on English Test
11 2023 - ACS Assessment expired T_T (but already prepared for re-assessment a few weeks before)
11 2023 - ACS deemed my skills unsuitable because of missing documents. Nilaban ko.
12 2023 - Suitable ACS Skills reassessment (8+ years) after 1month of review and pangungulit (no fee incurred, fault nila)
12 2023 - Some EOIs expired T_T
12 2023 - New EOIs submitted (NSW, VIC, ACT, and 189)
~~~~
02 2024 - Booked NAATI Exam (desperate to max out point for a chance of invite)
02 2024 - Received NSW 190 pre-invite!! ✩₊˚ (tears of joy, TYL! ). Cancelled NAATI test at 75% refund.
02 2024 - Final NSW ITA received after 1 business day ✩₊˚
02 2024 - Visa Lodgement
02 2024 - Medicals. Cleared after 1 business day @ SATA AMK
02 2024 - Singapore Police Clearance. Completed/claimed after 6 business days
_ _ 2024 - ✩₊˚.⋆☾⋆⁺₊✧** Visa Grant! **✩₊˚.⋆☾⋆⁺₊✧
Joined: Nov 04, 2022
You can only claim for points for 491 but not with the permanent visas.
491 Visa: Human Resource Adviser - 223111 (80 points) | Age: 15 | English: 10 | Work: 15 | Education : 15 | Partner : 10 | Nomination: 15
09 Aug 2016 - VETASSESS Initial, Positive
03 Jan 2020 - VETASSESS Reassessment, Positive
29 Jan 2020 - EOI submitted for 491 (NSW) - 65 pts
10 Feb 2020 - IELTS, Proficient
15 Feb 2020 - EOI updated - 75 pts
18 Jan 2022 - VETASSESS Renewal
14 Oct 2022 - EOI submitted for 491 (NSW) - 80 pts
10 Nov 2022 - Pre-invite received from NSW, applied on the same day
18 Nov 2022 - NSW Nomination approved
21 Nov 2022 - 491 Visa Lodged
22 Nov 2022 - Submitted Forms 80 and 1221
25 Nov 2022 - Medical exam and Biometrics
6 Dec 2022 - Additional medical check requested for 1 dependent
3 Jan 2023 - Complete health clearance
5 Jun 2023 - Immi Assessment Commenced email received
20 Jul 2023 - Visa Grant
Posts: 45Member
Joined: Nov 23, 2016
Thank you po! @whimpee @mathilde9 Will take my chance po for Visa 491, sayang po yung 10 pts.
Joined: May 21, 2024
You and your wife can't claim partner points for each other because your occupations are on different skilled occupation lists (MLTSSL for you and STSOL for her). To claim partner points, both occupations need to be on the same list. Applying separately is still an option, but if you're unsure, getting advice from a migration agent is a good idea.
Joined: Nov 04, 2022
You can still submit EOI for 189/190 even without partner points, unless hindi aabot sa minimum pag wala.
491 Visa: Human Resource Adviser - 223111 (80 points) | Age: 15 | English: 10 | Work: 15 | Education : 15 | Partner : 10 | Nomination: 15
09 Aug 2016 - VETASSESS Initial, Positive
03 Jan 2020 - VETASSESS Reassessment, Positive
29 Jan 2020 - EOI submitted for 491 (NSW) - 65 pts
10 Feb 2020 - IELTS, Proficient
15 Feb 2020 - EOI updated - 75 pts
18 Jan 2022 - VETASSESS Renewal
14 Oct 2022 - EOI submitted for 491 (NSW) - 80 pts
10 Nov 2022 - Pre-invite received from NSW, applied on the same day
18 Nov 2022 - NSW Nomination approved
21 Nov 2022 - 491 Visa Lodged
22 Nov 2022 - Submitted Forms 80 and 1221
25 Nov 2022 - Medical exam and Biometrics
6 Dec 2022 - Additional medical check requested for 1 dependent
3 Jan 2023 - Complete health clearance
5 Jun 2023 - Immi Assessment Commenced email received
20 Jul 2023 - Visa Grant
Posts: 45Member
Joined: Nov 23, 2016
Currently po submittied EOI and with 80 pts for Visa 189. Waiting since August 2023. Here is the breakdown of pts:
Posts: 45Member
Joined: Nov 23, 2016
Thank you po. Thinking of consulting to the DHA nga po if ever.
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Joined: Jul 09, 2019
For info here lang din:
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
How can I claim 5 points for partner skills assessment for Subclass 189, 190 and 491 visa?
Updated 2 weeks ago
There are maximum 10 points available for partner skills.
If you have a partner who is not an Australian Citizen or permanent resident, then you can obtain the following points for partner skills:
5 points if your partner has minimum Competent English
an additional 5 points if your partner has a skill assessment in an occupation that is on the same skilled occupation list (MLTSSL, STSOL or ROL) as your nominated skilled occupation
There seems to be some confusion around the criteria for the 5 points for partner skill assessment above.
Here is a clear answer, assume "You" is the primary applicant:
If you are applying for 491 State Sponsored visa, your partner can be on any list - MLTSSL, STSOL or ROL
If you are applying for 190 visa, your partner has to be either on MLTSSL or STSOL
If you are applying for 189 visa or 491 Family Sponsored visa, your partner has to be on MLTSSL
You can check Skilled Occupation List here.
Source: Migration (LIN 19/051: Specification of Occupations and Assessing Authorities) Instrument 2019
How do you know it works ?
When you are creating an EOI in SkillSelect and claiming points for partner skills, you will automatically see partner points calculated and added to your EOI score, using the above mentioned logic.
You can check out the Skilled Occupation List to see what list your occupation and your partner's occupation is on.
Source:
https://smartvisaguide.com/frequently-asked-questions/partner-skill-assessment-points-criteria-189-190-491-visa
ANZSCO 233211 Civil Engineer (Offshore) | Age: 25| English: 20 | Experience: 15| Education: 15 | Partner Points: 05 (Competent English) |NAATI: 05 |State :05
SC190 NSW = 90
Timeline:
17 Apr 2023: Took PTE Exam: Superior
29 May 2023: Spouse PTE Exam: Competent
15 May 2023: Submitted relevant employment docs, work pass and DRAFT CDR to agent
29 May 2023: Agent submitted EA MSA CDR + RSEA to Engineers Australia
8 July 2023: EA MSA CDR + RSEA result: Suitable for migration
26 July 2023: took the NAATI CCL
13 Aug 2023: results out for NAATI exam
15 Aug 2023: Agent updated EOI for CCL points (+5)
13 Sep 2023: Agent created EOI for SC 190 NSW
02 Nov 2023: Pre-invited by NSW
06 Nov 2023: Nomination submitted to NSW
09 Nov 2023: Nomination application approved & ITA received
29 Nov 2023: Visa lodgment and medicals booked
11 Dec 2023: Medicals completed
xx-xx-xx - Visa GRANT