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Steps to working as a doctor in australia

mishellelomishellelo Quezon CityPosts: 1Member
Hi. I'm planning to practice medicine in australia. I'll be taking the step 1 this february hopefully. Anyone here who can give me an idea about Filipino doctors in Australia?

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  • TotoyOZresidentTotoyOZresident Posts: 1,335Member, Moderator
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    Good luck Mishellelo. Ganda kapag Doctor ka dito, Ganda benefit hindi pa ganun ka stressful. cheeers

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  • _maldita__maldita_ NSW
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    hi mishellelo! Are you based here in Sydney? I'll also be taking step 1 this February.
  • lock_code2004lock_code2004 Perth
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    Si dra @nadine hopefully magonline sya paminsan minsan.. You can search her profile.. And then read her posts.. That might help..

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  • NadineNadine Brisbane
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    edited January 2015
    Hi. I'm planning to practice medicine in australia. I'll be taking the step 1 this february hopefully. Anyone here who can give me an idea about Filipino doctors in Australia?
    Salamat master @lock_code2004 for tagging. Pasensya na, medyo busy ang buhay

    21 Dec 2012 - 457 lodged
    7 Jan 2013 - medical finalised
    8 Jan 2013 - visa approved

  • NadineNadine Brisbane
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    Hi. I'm planning to practice medicine in australia. I'll be taking the step 1 this february hopefully. Anyone here who can give me an idea about Filipino doctors in Australia?
    Salamat master @lock_code2004 for tagging. Pasensya na, medyo busy ang buhay

    21 Dec 2012 - 457 lodged
    7 Jan 2013 - medical finalised
    8 Jan 2013 - visa approved

  • NadineNadine Brisbane
    Posts: 481Member
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    edited January 2015
    Hi. I'm planning to practice medicine in australia. I'll be taking the step 1 this february hopefully. Anyone here who can give me an idea about Filipino doctors in Australia?
    Salamat master @lock_code2004 for tagging. Pasensya na, medyo busy ang buhay

    21 Dec 2012 - 457 lodged
    7 Jan 2013 - medical finalised
    8 Jan 2013 - visa approved

  • NadineNadine Brisbane
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    Salamat master @lock_code2004 for tagging. Pasensya na, medyo busy ang buhay

    21 Dec 2012 - 457 lodged
    7 Jan 2013 - medical finalised
    8 Jan 2013 - visa approved

  • NadineNadine Brisbane
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    Naku, pasensya na pips! May mali sa connection ko (yata?) at ayaw ma-post yung buong sagot ko sa tanong ni @mishellelo. Ano kaya nagyari at yung first line lang ang pumapasok??? Will try again later. Sorry for flooding the thread! *smh*

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  • ajgajg Mandaluyong
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    hello po Ms. nadine! Open pa ba Australia for filipino doctors? Pwede po kaya ako? Im a pediatrican here sa Phils.. What po steps to take ? Thanks so much po.
  • NadineNadine Brisbane
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    hello po Ms. nadine! Open pa ba Australia for filipino doctors? Pwede po kaya ako? Im a pediatrican here sa Phils.. What po steps to take ? Thanks so much po.
    hello! pasensya na ngayon lang ako ulit nakapagbasa.

    I suggest you join pinoy.md as it is a wealth of resource/information regarding all the steps/issues/concerns for pinoy doctors in Australia. Meron din tayo FB page. :)

    I have to admit that it is getting trickier by the year. This is mainly because their own government is increasing the number of medical graduates for quite a number of years now. So, their own graduates are flooding the system which makes it difficult for foreign doctors such as ourselves. But what we bring to the table is clinical experience that we get from the Philippines. So, as to your question if it is still open - it definitely still is. Kailangan mo lang gandahan CV mo to show that to employers. As a first step though, get the exams sorted. AMC 1 is a must now, but they actually prefer that you have AMC 2 as well. You will need IELTS for AHPRA, but I'm sure kaya mo yan. Then apply to all hospitals in Australia all over. We remain in SOL, so there will be no issues with visa as long as makakuha ka ng employer. That is, if kailangan mo visa sponsorship.

    I'm paeds din sa atin and doing paeds dito. Goodluck :)

    21 Dec 2012 - 457 lodged
    7 Jan 2013 - medical finalised
    8 Jan 2013 - visa approved

  • Aiza05Aiza05 Sydney
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    Hi po to all pinoy doctors here in Australia and future doctors here!

    May question lang ako regarding being a doctor here..kahit po sino pde mgcomment!

    @Nadine Doc, ask ko lang..alam ko mejo off topic pero curious kasi ako..pangarap ko na tlg maging medical doctor since nsa college plng ako sa pinas and nakatapos ako ng MT satin and now working as a phlebo in a government hospital and got plans of applying for a job mismo sa lab next year..but im considering of going back to school again either go to tafe or take a master degree for medical science and mejo naiisip ko why not mg aral ako ng medicine kahit sobrang mahirap na for my situation kasi im already 32 and planning to have a baby soon..but im still curious and still doing a lot of research lately on what to take next year..may alam ba kayo kung gaano kahirap ang mgaral ng medicine dto sa australia? papano mgstart? Im doing a lot of research pra hndi ako mgwaste ng resources and time..by the way PR nako and I think pde nako mgapply for a citizenship sa december ;-)

    Thanks in advancae for any opinions or advices! ;-)

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  • NadineNadine Brisbane
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    @Aiza05 Hi!

    I have post an answer here if you want to take a read: http://pinoyau.info/discussion/8687/filipino-doctors-planning-to-practice-in-australia

    Regarding studying medicine dito, I actually don't know the answer to that, as I studied medicine in the Philippines. You might wanna try forums of prospective medical students? Or try email medical schools and ask to be hooked up to the student community. I am based in QLD and UQ is the medical university.

    Cheers, goodluck!

    21 Dec 2012 - 457 lodged
    7 Jan 2013 - medical finalised
    8 Jan 2013 - visa approved

  • Aiza05Aiza05 Sydney
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    Nadine said:

    @Aiza05 Hi!

    I have post an answer here if you want to take a read: http://pinoyau.info/discussion/8687/filipino-doctors-planning-to-practice-in-australia

    Regarding studying medicine dito, I actually don't know the answer to that, as I studied medicine in the Philippines. You might wanna try forums of prospective medical students? Or try email medical schools and ask to be hooked up to the student community. I am based in QLD and UQ is the medical university.

    Cheers, goodluck!

    @Nadine Hi doc! its been a long time! How are you? Hows ur application/ registration? Lately, napapaisip ulit ako kung babalik ako ng Uni, I want to study again but this time gusto ko na sna sya na ung last course ko..bka po mg medicine ako pero ittry ko muna ang initial process..mejo madugo din kasi pero ittry ko parin..I did some research narin at broader na ung ideas ko..ittry ko din yang suggestions mo to try forums and student community to gain more knowledge/ ideas..mas tumindi kc ung desire ko to study again because of my upcoming citizenship grant so maraming opportunities lalo ngayon ang naiisip ko na pede ko igrab, like I can study Uni because of HECS help..its either mg enter ako sa Army reserve or enter medical school. Thanks for replying parin kahit mejo natagalan at for sure busy ka din with ur own life.

    Best of luck din and Godbless! :-)



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    December 2012- Second entry with a Fiancee Visa
    June 2013- Applied for 2-stage Partner Visa (Temporary & Permanent)
    July 2013- Temporary Visa granted after I got married
    December 2015- Permanent Visa granted
    February 2013 to January 2016- Worked in a non-healthcare job
    January 2016- My first job in healthcare as a Tech. Assistant/ Pathology collector
    January 2017- Given a permanent position as a Tech. Assistant
    January 2017- Applied online for Citizenship
    February 2017- Received an email re: Australian Citizenship
    appointment and test
    May 2017- Citizenship test date! Yeeeyyyy! ;-)
    May 18,2017- Citizenship exam passed and application approved
    Aug. 7, 2017- Citizenship Ceremony
    September 2017- new sched of my AIMS exam
    November 2017- received AIMS exam result
    February 2018- start of Uni session 1

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  • ElsuiveMD14ElsuiveMD14 Manila
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    @Nadine Hi Ms. Nadine! Did you have to undergo the specialist assessment pathway? Or did you go back to zero? That is, AMC pathway to do housemanship?

    Would you know any Filipino doctor who finished residency in the Philippines and got through via the specialist assessment pathway? Or because we are considered to have had a third-world kind of training, we have to start from scratch? Thank you!
  • NadineNadine Brisbane
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    edited August 2017
    @ElsuiveMD14 , hi!

    Wala eh. I know of no Filipino doctor (paeds or other fields) who went straight onto the specialist pathway. That is not to say that no Filipino doctor tried. Madami have applied but the cost for assessment can be anywhere from $10,000 to 20,000 with zero guarantee. Most I know were assessed partially comparable - meaning, they would still have to do training and exams anyway. I have yet to come across one who has been assessed as equivalent. Sa pagkaka- alam ko, only doctors from UK,US, Nz, Canada, Ireland etc can skip the standard pathway and do specialist straight away. They are the "comparable health system", ika nga. What I might suggest, if you are really keen, is to start at least with the assessment with AMC. There is nothing stopping you from doing both standard and specialist from the get-go. Or you can do what I did and do one at a time. I have finished my standard pathway now and preparing to do specialist exams - so I am now on the specialist path.

    P.S. If what you mean as starting "from scratch" is not starting as consultant or even resident/registrar trainee, then yes, you won't start in a senior position. To be brutally honest, doctor job competition is through the roof these days that any doctor is just happy to have one. Honestly, I wouldn't worry about that yet until you have started your AMC assessment.

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    7 Jan 2013 - medical finalised
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  • freshMDfreshMD Philippines
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    hi.. im a freshly board passer here in the philippines..
    there have been news na mejo bababa na daw ang acceptance rate ng aus govt for IMGs? is this true? how feasible is it to be able to train and practice in aus at this age and time (2017) mahirap na po bang makapunta ng aus ang katulad kong new doctor?
    and also... hingi lang po ng advise or idea sa total estimated cost ng expenses sa journey ng application and processes hanggang sa makakuha na po ng general registration sa australia? and also... how long is the duration? will it take me months only? or will it take me years before makakamit ng gen license dun po?

    pls advice thanks
  • freshMDfreshMD Philippines
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    @Nadine Hi Dr. nadine,,

    hi.. im a freshly board passer here in the philippines..
    there have been news na mejo bababa na daw ang acceptance rate ng aus govt for IMGs? is this true? how feasible is it to be able to train and practice in aus at this age and time (2017) mahirap na po bang makapunta ng aus ang katulad kong new doctor?
    and also... hingi lang po ng advise or idea sa total estimated cost ng expenses sa journey ng application and processes hanggang sa makakuha na po ng general registration sa australia? and also... how long is the duration? will it take me months only? or will it take me years before makakamit ng gen license dun po?

    pls advice thanks
  • NadineNadine Brisbane
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    @freshMD

    Hi! I suppose the rumours are true - but don’t let that deter you though.

    Alam mo ba when I took my first amc exam way back 4 years ago, there were already rumours of tightening regulations for MDs. And there were new rules, turned out the rumours were true. But I am here, and I am doing my specialty exams now, so it’s possible. If this is what you really want - Then go for it. If it’s your dream, then that is your answer isn’t it?

    Expenses are in the tens of thousands, I’m afraid. Yung amc 1 exam 4yrs ago was almost P100k eh ($2k I think). That does not include reviews and fees and applications. May review dito for amc2 priced at $10k!! Review lang yan, exam is $3-4k... Mahal - can’t really say there is a specific figure. But it’s a lot. So be prepared for the long haul.

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  • NadineNadine Brisbane
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    edited December 2017
    @freshMD

    Forgot to add-on pala (before I hit submit button):

    - you don't have to do formal reviews or buy new reviewers. Kaya naman alone eh, to minimise the expense. But weigh the pros and cons though. For AMC 1, I suggest do it alone if you can. For AMC2, you need study partner/group. I did the workbased for AMC2, which is slightly different. Pero I still had study groups and discussion. I did not do any formal reviews for any of those (ang mahal!)
    - suggest visiting pinoymd community under AMC thread as madami tips dun
    - I am not sure if you know, I have posted a very long discussion about the steps from the exams to registration (and everything in between that I can think of). Hanapin ko link and I will post it below
    - goodluck, balitaan mo kami dito
    - here is the link:

    http://pinoyau.info/discussion/8687/filipino-doctors-planning-to-practice-in-australia#latest

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  • nathan0816nathan0816 Laguna
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    @Nadine Hello Dra! Where po kayo nag workbased for AMC? Mahirap po bang maaccept doon? Thank you
  • ssendoodssendood Posts: 103Member
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    Hello Doc @Nadine and everyone, im asking on behalf of a doctor friend. She's currently a pedia resident on her senior year. She's keen on going to Australia for at least a short term training and/or fellowship. I hope you can advise on how best to prepare and apply. Dapat daw kasi may makuha muna na program before visa stuff but confusing on when how where to start. Initial searches led to RACP and the accredited training sites that eventually require to apply on aphra and/or the matching site (ATSM). Which pediatric hospitals would you know that offer training programs? Appreciate your thoughts on how to get things going. Thank you very much in advance.

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  • ChurioChurio Quezon City, Philippines
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    Hi doc @Nadine ask lang po if may expiry ang amc part1? Kailangan ba agad itake ung part 2? Or kahit kailan pwede?
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    @Gwen_md check this out..

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