Architect - Applying as Architectural Draftsperson

valerie03

@mabaitpoako, @arki_jigz06 may tanong po ako? Standard coe lang po ang binigay ng company ko, based po sa nabasa ko ay pwede humingi ng attestment sa senior ko na siya nagbibigay ng schedule of works ko. Sa construction company po ako nagwowork dito sa sg. Nabigyan na po ako ng attestation ng senior ko which ang job description ko po ay more on structural drawings kung saan site po ako nakabased ngayon. Kasi after project completion po nililipat kami ng project. Nagawa din po kasi ako ng architectura drawings sa mga dati ko project na pinanggalingan kaya lang po kasi ngayon nasa structural team ako kaya po ang naprovide na attestation ko ay more on structural kasi ang senior ko po ay structural engineer. Yun sa dati ko po company archi drawings at structural po ginawa ko. So ang isa po tanong ko ngayon, ano po ang ipapaassess ko civil draftsperson or architectural draftsperson.

athelene

@valerie03 said:
@athelene may tabing po ako? Standard coe lang po ang binigay ng company ko, based po sa nabasa ko ay pwede humingi ng attestment sa senior ko na siya nagbibigay ng schedule of works ko. Sa constructuon company po ako nagwowork dito sa sg. Nabigyan na po ako ng attestation ng senior ko which ang job description ko po ay more on structural drawings kung saan site po ako nakabased ngayon. Kasi after project completion po nililipat kami ng project. Nagawa din po kasi ako ng architectura drawings sa mga dati ko project na pinanggalingan kaya lang po kasi ngayon nasa structural team ako kaya po ang naprovide na attestation ko ay more on structural kasi ang senior ko po ay structural engineer. Yun sa dati ko po company archi drawings at structural po ginawa ko. So ang isa po tanong ko ngayon, ano po ang ipapaassess ko civil draftsperson or architrctural draftsperson. Ang work xperienced ko po sa sg mag- 9 years na po next year July 2020 to be exact.
Thank you po.

Disclaimer: I'm no expert on skill assessment, just making comments/suggestions based on what I know/research on GSM.

Hi valerie03, so for projects prior to the current one, it's been a mix of architectural and structural drafting yung work mo? Mas marami ba yung architectural drafting or structural? If much of your work experience was architectural rather than structural, maybe go for architectural draftsperson. If not, try civil. 9 years is a long time, so try to compute how much of that was spent on architectural or structural drafting. But also consider the SOL list if you can still get SS for architectural draftsperson (very few states offer sponsorship for this now); otherwise, you might get better chances with civil.

valerie03

@athelene, thank you po sa pagreply.

Yun po pala CV australian format po ba ang need? Baka po pwede makahingi ng sample ng australian format. Happy New Year po sa inyo!

God Bless! Thank you

athelene

@valerie03 said:
@athelene, thank you po sa pagreply.
Yun po pala CV australian format po ba ang need? Baka po pwede makahingi ng sample ng australian format. Happy New Year po sa inyo!
God Bless! Thank you

Happy new year too!

Not sure if required na Aussie format ang CV, but it can't hurt to do it that way. I don't have an Aussie format CV yet (but I'm working on it) so I can't send any to you. But here are some links you can read and use as reference:

[https://seek.com.au/career-advice/article/how-to-write-a-skills-based-cv](https://seek.com.au/career-advice/article/how-to-write-a-skills-based-cv)

[https://seek.com.au/career-advice/article/resume-cv](https://seek.com.au/career-advice/article/resume-cv)

[https://seek.com.au/career-advice/article/resumes-the-good-and-the-bad](https://seek.com.au/career-advice/article/resumes-the-good-and-the-bad)

arki_jigz06

@valerie03 try to see vetassess website, all informations and formats are there. You can give the format to HR/supervisor. Check also civil draftperson's job description first and relate it to your COE.

Cerberus13

Hello, not sure if this is the right thread to post this but i hope someone can give insights.

I just received my positive assessment from Vetassess and I am lodging my EOI in Skillselect pero medyo confused ako sa question about qualifications.

So in my positive outcome from Vetassess, I nominated Architectural Draftsperson (312111) as occupation.

The report also states that my qualification is of recognized equivalent AQF Bachelor Degree pero wala akong masters.

Anong isasagot ko dun sa EOI about qualifications? Yung possible choices sa drop down menu:

Bachelor Degree (Science, Business, and Technology)
Other qualification or award recognized by assessing authority

Actually initially sinelect ko yung "Other" pero yung followup question, what is the specific award given (yung sample nila, certificates etc.), yung nasa outcome letter ko AQF Bachelor Degree. Tama ba yun?

Confusing kasi ang alam ko yung Architectural Draftsperson is a diploma occupation pero yung qualification ko tinanggap nila sa Bachelor Degree kahit wala akong masters.

Please help, mahirap magkamali, sayang ang points pero risky rin mag lagay ng misinformation.

Thank you!

athelene

@barryco said:
Hello, not sure if this is the right thread to post this but i hope someone can give insights.

I just received my positive assessment from Vetassess and I am lodging my EOI in Skillselect pero medyo confused ako sa question about qualifications.
So in my positive outcome from Vetassess, I nominated Architectural Draftsperson (312111) as occupation.
The report also states that my qualification is of recognized equivalent AQF Bachelor Degree pero wala akong masters.
Anong isasagot ko dun sa EOI about qualifications? Yung possible choices sa drop down menu:

Bachelor Degree (Science, Business, and Technology)

Other qualification or award recognized by assessing authority
Actually initially sinelect ko yung "Other" pero yung followup question, what is the specific award given (yung sample nila, certificates etc.), yung nasa outcome letter ko AQF Bachelor Degree. Tama ba yun?
Confusing kasi ang alam ko yung Architectural Draftsperson is a diploma occupation pero yung qualification ko tinanggap nila sa Bachelor Degree kahit wala akong masters.
Please help, mahirap magkamali, sayang ang points pero risky rin mag lagay ng misinformation.
Thank you!

I haven't started my application for SkillSelect, but I just wanted to share some info (since wala pang nagrereply for 2 months) about AQF.

AQF Bachelor Degree would be AQF Level 7, while a Diploma would be AQF Level 5 (AQF Level 6 for Advanced Diploma). So the bachelor degree you have is technically enough for you to work as a draftsperson; you don't need a master's degree to do drafting work. I would think that the "Other qualification" option refers to the qualifications that aren't a bachelor degree (Diploma, Advanced Diploma), but this I'm not entirely sure.

Perhaps ma'am @RheaMARN1171933 can give a more accurate answer for you.

AQF Levels

RheaMARN1171933

@athelene said:

@barryco said:
Hello, not sure if this is the right thread to post this but i hope someone can give insights.

I just received my positive assessment from Vetassess and I am lodging my EOI in Skillselect pero medyo confused ako sa question about qualifications.

So in my positive outcome from Vetassess, I nominated Architectural Draftsperson (312111) as occupation.
The report also states that my qualification is of recognized equivalent AQF Bachelor Degree pero wala akong masters.

Anong isasagot ko dun sa EOI about qualifications? Yung possible choices sa drop down menu:

Bachelor Degree (Science, Business, and Technology)

Other qualification or award recognized by assessing authority

Actually initially sinelect ko yung "Other" pero yung followup question, what is the specific award given (yung sample nila, certificates etc.), yung nasa outcome letter ko AQF Bachelor Degree. Tama ba yun?

Confusing kasi ang alam ko yung Architectural Draftsperson is a diploma occupation pero yung qualification ko tinanggap nila sa Bachelor Degree kahit wala akong masters.

Please help, mahirap magkamali, sayang ang points pero risky rin mag lagay ng misinformation.

Thank you!
I haven't started my application for SkillSelect, but I just wanted to share some info (since wala pang nagrereply for 2 months) about AQF.
AQF Bachelor Degree would be AQF Level 7, while a Diploma would be AQF Level 5 (AQF Level 6 for Advanced Diploma). So the bachelor degree you have is technically enough for you to work as a draftsperson; you don't need a master's degree to do drafting work. I would think that the "Other qualification" option refers to the qualifications that aren't a bachelor degree (Diploma, Advanced Diploma), but this I'm not entirely sure.
Perhaps ma'am @RheaMARN1171933 can give a more accurate answer for you.
AQF Levels

VETASSESS didn’t award you a qualification so definitely you shouldn’t tick that. Bachelor degree should be selected.

Cerberus13

Thank you @athelene and @RheaMARN1171933 kahit matagal na yung question I still need the answer since wala pa naman akong ITA. I believe one agent also answered this in the different thread pero confused ako sa sagot niya.

Cerberus13

So wala pa rin bang successful Pinoy dito na assess as Architect by AACA? Any stories? 😃

taniamarkova

@barryco said:
So wala pa rin bang successful Pinoy dito na assess as Architect by AACA? Any stories? 😃

Hi, arki ako dito sa Pinas, gusto ko din sana pa assess dati sa AACA. Pero nag suggest agent ko na sa Vetassess as architectural draftperson kasi medyo hindi similar ang curriculum nila sa atin. 😃

Cerberus13

Possible kayang mag request ng FOI from AACA? Government body ba ang AACA?

athelene

@barryco said:
Possible kayang mag request ng FOI from AACA? Government body ba ang AACA?

AACA is non-profit and independent from the government (but they do work with state regulatory boards).

Looking at your signature, you've got really high points already, so i guess no need to bother with AACA. Are you looking to migrate in NSW or ACT?

Cerberus13

@athelene said:

@barryco said:
Possible kayang mag request ng FOI from AACA? Government body ba ang AACA?
AACA is non-profit and independent from the government (but they do work with state regulatory boards).
Looking at your signature, you've got really high points already, so i guess no need to bother with AACA. Are you looking to migrate in NSW or ACT?

Hi. For Arch Draftsperson kasi before July, NSW 190 lang ang choice, wala ng ibang possible for offshore. And it's unlikely to change kung mag resume ang state nominations. Kaya naiisip ko na naman ung Architect path, wishful thinking, lol. But first just wanted to see talaga yung actual stats if meron man. haha

athelene

@barryco said:

Hi. For Arch Draftsperson kasi before July, NSW 190 lang ang choice, wala ng ibang possible for offshore. And it's unlikely to change kung mag resume ang state nominations. Kaya naiisip ko na naman ung Architect path, wishful thinking, lol. But first just wanted to see talaga yung actual stats if meron man. haha

I see. NSW introduced the residency thing for onshore applications, but since I'm moving interstate, I would no longer qualify for NSW down the line 🙁 if you can get an accredited MArch while offshore, you can go with the Architect path. Pero syempre mas madali kung dito ka mag-aral ng MArch hehehe 😃

Noel2020

Hello po sa lahat, Magtatanong lang po sana ako ganu katagal lumalabas yung skills assessment ng Vetasses this week lng po ako nag pa assess, and upon checking sa DOHA wala pong open for Architectural draft person siguro due to covid. Pero may chance po ba sila mag open ng Year 2021?

athelene

@Noel2020 said:
Hello po sa lahat, Magtatanong lang po sana ako ganu katagal lumalabas yung skills assessment ng Vetasses this week lng po ako nag pa assess, and upon checking sa DOHA wala pong open for Architectural draft person siguro due to covid. Pero may chance po ba sila mag open ng Year 2021?

State sponsorship is temporarily closed for all states, as the allocation for sponsorship has not been announced (I've heard/read sa October 2020 pa daw possibly magkaka-update). Prior to COVID, ang alam ko NSW yung open for sponsorship ng architectural draftsperson under 190 visa (I hadn't really checked other states as I'm living in NSW).

Full skills assessment takes 12-14 weeks according to VETASSESS website:

[https://vetassess.com.au/skills-assessment-for-migration/professional-occupations/application-process](https://vetassess.com.au/skills-assessment-for-migration/professional-occupations/application-process)

Gencang28

@athelene said:

@Noel2020 said:
Hello po sa lahat, Magtatanong lang po sana ako ganu katagal lumalabas yung skills assessment ng Vetasses this week lng po ako nag pa assess, and upon checking sa DOHA wala pong open for Architectural draft person siguro due to covid. Pero may chance po ba sila mag open ng Year 2021?
State sponsorship is temporarily closed for all states, as the allocation for sponsorship has not been announced (I've heard/read sa October 2020 pa daw possibly magkaka-update). Prior to COVID, ang alam ko NSW yung open for sponsorship ng architectural draftsperson under 190 visa (I hadn't really checked other states as I'm living in NSW).
Full skills assessment takes 12-14 weeks according to VETASSESS website:
[https://vetassess.com.au/skills-assessment-for-migration/professional-occupations/application-process](https://vetassess.com.au/skills-assessment-for-migration/professional-occupations/application-process)

Gencang28

@athelene said:

@Noel2020 said:
Hello po sa lahat, Magtatanong lang po sana ako ganu katagal lumalabas yung skills assessment ng Vetasses this week lng po ako nag pa assess, and upon checking sa DOHA wala pong open for Architectural draft person siguro due to covid. Pero may chance po ba sila mag open ng Year 2021?
State sponsorship is temporarily closed for all states, as the allocation for sponsorship has not been announced (I've heard/read sa October 2020 pa daw possibly magkaka-update). Prior to COVID, ang alam ko NSW yung open for sponsorship ng architectural draftsperson under 190 visa (I hadn't really checked other states as I'm living in NSW).
Full skills assessment takes 12-14 weeks according to VETASSESS website:
[https://vetassess.com.au/skills-assessment-for-migration/professional-occupations/application-process](https://vetassess.com.au/skills-assessment-for-migration/professional-occupations/application-process)

intdesigner_arki

Hello po! Thankful for this forum ang dami ko na po na learn kahit bago pa po kami nag start sa aming BM plans to AU. Ask lang po sana kami ng advice.. arki grad po ako sa pinas with license as architect & RMP. I have 5 years experience working in Singapore po (3 years as arch’l designer, 2 years as interior designer). Thinking mag apply po kami ni hubby as Visa 190.. but hindi po ako confident na ma grant based sa work experience ko. May malaki ba chance na ma grant? Nasa late 20s pa po kami.. or may other visa’s or pathway po na mas better? Yung other option ko po is mag Masters degree student in project management.. magandang pathway po ba yung course na yun to AU PR? Salamat po sa maka ka advise and stay safe always 🙂 Godbless!

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