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Posts: 60Member
Joined: Nov 16, 2022
Ano po yung impact nito sa pag count ng work experience?
Bale hindi na ba mccount yung new work experience since hindi sya kasali dun sa assessment?
**Developer Programmer - 261312 | 189(70pts) | 190(75pts) **
~~Sept 5, 22 - Started collecting documents/requirements
~~Nov 7, 22 - Submitted skill assessment(ACS)
~~Nov 10, 22 - PTE (Proficient)
~~Jan 23, 23 - Negative skill assessment: Walang detailed info yung COE ng current and previous employers
~~Feb 03, 23 - Requested to review Skill assessment(ACS)
~~May 10, 23 - Positive skill assessment:
~~~~AQF Bachelor Degree with a Major in computing
~~~~Appropriately skilled level and relevant to ANZSCO Code 261312 (Developer Programmer)
~~May 10, 23 - EOI(189) Submission
~~May 11, 23 - EOI(190) NSW, WA, SA, QLD Submission
~~June 03, 23 - Appealed skill assessment(ACS) (Wanted to get more experience years for additional points)
~~June 27, 23 - PTE (Proficient)
~~July 10, 23 - PTE (Superior)
~~Jan 12, 24 - NSW Pre invite
~~Feb 08, 24 - Invitation to Apply
~~Feb 19, 24 - Lodged Visa
~~March 4, 24 - Medical
~~March 8, 24 - Positive results on medical reflected on Immi
??? Visa Grant ???
Joined: Mar 10, 2016
Not really, as last ng as you’re in the same occupation doing the same tasks and can prove that when you lodge your visa, you can still claim experience even if that episode was not included in the assessment
Joined: Aug 24, 2023
Thanks po. But I mean di po ba sya makakaapekto dun sa skills assessment lalo na pag nagapply po ng EOI.
Joined: Mar 10, 2016
I think I’ve just answered that in my previous comment
Posts: 770Member
Joined: Nov 15, 2021
When you lodge an EOI, usually you leave the end date of your current employment as blank. IF the case is a continuous employment in the same employer (change roles/title lang), then gather documents lang that will support this.
I guess na mixed up na yung replies dito. Your question yata was - paano kung lumipat ng work/company noh at may lodged EOI na?
Hindi na yata 'to counted sa points since hindi siya nakasama sa assessed occupation na nilagay mo sa EOI unless, magpa-assess ka ulit and include this new employment episode.
May option kasi doon to tick whether the employment is closely related to the nominated ANZSCO or not, since hindi siya assessed I wouldn't choose yes. HTH.
OCCUPATION : SOFTWARE ENGINEER (261313) ~~ DIY. Offshore.
Total Points ~~ NSW SC190: 90pts
Points Breakdown:
Age:25 | English:20 | Employment:15 | Education:15 | Single:10
Been to Australia a few times and I just wanted to settle there. "I belong here" ganon.
~~~~
10 2021 - Research about AU migration; read a lot of related articles; consulted with agent for initial assessment. Decided to DIY.
11 2021 - PTE (Proficient)
11 2021 - Suitable ACS Skills Assessment received (8+ years suitable, 5weeks 4days TAT)
~~~~
01 2022 - EOIs submitted (matumal and slight hiatus since na-busy sa ibang bagay)
~~~~
09 2023 - PTE retake (Superior 90 overall)
09 2023 - Updated EOIs to reflect +10pts on English Test
11 2023 - ACS Assessment expired T_T (but already prepared for re-assessment a few weeks before)
11 2023 - ACS deemed my skills unsuitable because of missing documents. Nilaban ko.
12 2023 - Suitable ACS Skills reassessment (8+ years) after 1month of review and pangungulit (no fee incurred, fault nila)
12 2023 - Some EOIs expired T_T
12 2023 - New EOIs submitted (NSW, VIC, ACT, and 189)
~~~~
02 2024 - Booked NAATI Exam (desperate to max out point for a chance of invite)
02 2024 - Received NSW 190 pre-invite!! ✩₊˚ (tears of joy, TYL! ). Cancelled NAATI test at 75% refund.
02 2024 - Final NSW ITA received after 1 business day ✩₊˚
02 2024 - Visa Lodgement
02 2024 - Medicals. Cleared after 1 business day @ SATA AMK
02 2024 - Singapore Police Clearance. Completed/claimed after 6 business days
_ _ 2024 - ✩₊˚.⋆☾⋆⁺₊✧** Visa Grant! **✩₊˚.⋆☾⋆⁺₊✧
Joined: Aug 24, 2023
Hi po ulit. Sobrang helpful ng group! Thanks po sa lahat! Planning to submit sss and pagibig pero table lang sya sa website at walang nakalagay na company name. Ok lang po ba yun? and pwed bang payment evidence ang sss + pagibig. Counted as 2 na po ba yan? Thanks again!
Posts: 60Member
Joined: Nov 16, 2022
Hmmm this complicates tuloy dun sa previous response ni @RheaMARN1171933 . Pero honestly, this is the safe bet, unless you're willing to take the risk. I be better to be safe though...
**Developer Programmer - 261312 | 189(70pts) | 190(75pts) **
~~Sept 5, 22 - Started collecting documents/requirements
~~Nov 7, 22 - Submitted skill assessment(ACS)
~~Nov 10, 22 - PTE (Proficient)
~~Jan 23, 23 - Negative skill assessment: Walang detailed info yung COE ng current and previous employers
~~Feb 03, 23 - Requested to review Skill assessment(ACS)
~~May 10, 23 - Positive skill assessment:
~~~~AQF Bachelor Degree with a Major in computing
~~~~Appropriately skilled level and relevant to ANZSCO Code 261312 (Developer Programmer)
~~May 10, 23 - EOI(189) Submission
~~May 11, 23 - EOI(190) NSW, WA, SA, QLD Submission
~~June 03, 23 - Appealed skill assessment(ACS) (Wanted to get more experience years for additional points)
~~June 27, 23 - PTE (Proficient)
~~July 10, 23 - PTE (Superior)
~~Jan 12, 24 - NSW Pre invite
~~Feb 08, 24 - Invitation to Apply
~~Feb 19, 24 - Lodged Visa
~~March 4, 24 - Medical
~~March 8, 24 - Positive results on medical reflected on Immi
??? Visa Grant ???
Joined: Aug 24, 2023
Thank you po!
Joined: Mar 10, 2016
As mentioned, you can still continue to claim as long you’re doing the same occupation even if that period was not assessed. Put the end date on the previous employment the. New employment should have no end date on EOI.
The occupation in the new employment is still relevant so choose yes
Joined: Mar 10, 2016
Yes it gets complicated because I’m already saying it’s ok and for whatever reason same question is still being asked 🤷♀️
Posts: 770Member
Joined: Nov 15, 2021
Wouldn't it fall under overclaiming of employment points in case?
Or is it overclaiming only if you put a date earlier than the assessment MET Date to claim points? Thank you.
OCCUPATION : SOFTWARE ENGINEER (261313) ~~ DIY. Offshore.
Total Points ~~ NSW SC190: 90pts
Points Breakdown:
Age:25 | English:20 | Employment:15 | Education:15 | Single:10
Been to Australia a few times and I just wanted to settle there. "I belong here" ganon.
~~~~
10 2021 - Research about AU migration; read a lot of related articles; consulted with agent for initial assessment. Decided to DIY.
11 2021 - PTE (Proficient)
11 2021 - Suitable ACS Skills Assessment received (8+ years suitable, 5weeks 4days TAT)
~~~~
01 2022 - EOIs submitted (matumal and slight hiatus since na-busy sa ibang bagay)
~~~~
09 2023 - PTE retake (Superior 90 overall)
09 2023 - Updated EOIs to reflect +10pts on English Test
11 2023 - ACS Assessment expired T_T (but already prepared for re-assessment a few weeks before)
11 2023 - ACS deemed my skills unsuitable because of missing documents. Nilaban ko.
12 2023 - Suitable ACS Skills reassessment (8+ years) after 1month of review and pangungulit (no fee incurred, fault nila)
12 2023 - Some EOIs expired T_T
12 2023 - New EOIs submitted (NSW, VIC, ACT, and 189)
~~~~
02 2024 - Booked NAATI Exam (desperate to max out point for a chance of invite)
02 2024 - Received NSW 190 pre-invite!! ✩₊˚ (tears of joy, TYL! ). Cancelled NAATI test at 75% refund.
02 2024 - Final NSW ITA received after 1 business day ✩₊˚
02 2024 - Visa Lodgement
02 2024 - Medicals. Cleared after 1 business day @ SATA AMK
02 2024 - Singapore Police Clearance. Completed/claimed after 6 business days
_ _ 2024 - ✩₊˚.⋆☾⋆⁺₊✧** Visa Grant! **✩₊˚.⋆☾⋆⁺₊✧
Posts: 633Member
Joined: Nov 15, 2022
Yung SSS, punta ka po sa Member Info > Coverage History, andun dapat list ng previous and current employers mo.
Yung Pagibig naman, andun employer sa table.
Counted as one payment evidence lang po ang SSS at Pagibig.
m(au)nifesting 🇦🇺
Joined: Mar 10, 2016
Why would you be overclaiming something if the occupation is relevant? That’s when you need to provide further evidences to back up your claim during visa application submission. It will only be overclaiming when it’s not relevant but you claim that it is.
acs only recognised up to a certain date since that’s what the applicant claimed. It doesn’t mean that the employment episodes beyond the timeline acs assessed aren’t relevant. As long as the applicant can prove that the succeeding employment episode remains relevant then there is no issue.
Joined: Mar 10, 2016
Just to add, you follow the deemed skilled date as per acs, but you can continue claiming beyond what was assessed if you can prove that it is relevant.
Posts: 1,002Member, Moderator
Joined: Sep 13, 2019
I believe it's always the latter.
Now for the former, I had the same notion before that adding any new career episode not positively assessed by the assessing authority would always result to overclaiming points. So, I've always erred to the side of caution when responding to same questions before.
But, if you think about it, you will potentially commit this by generally claiming a career episode that would effectively increase your points that is not positively assessed by the assessing authority.
Ano ano yung mga instances na yun?
Logically, the above scenarios are potential disputes. Kasi the DHA could question that, why are you claiming the career episode that gave you points that is not even positively assessed? D'yan papasok yung palaging maging safe na kumuha na lang ng new assessment at isama yung new employment, lalo na sa mga DIY na walang agent na matatanong.
So, sa huli, kung wala naman effect sa points yung bagong employment, and you think it's relevant to your nominated occupation and could prove it, then it's still fine to add it in the EOI. Safe lang yun, kasi wala kang ino-overclaim, technically. With or without that, same pa rin yung points mo.
DIY all the way. Avoid preachy, know-it-all, and unscrupulous agents AT ALL COSTS!
"We must look for ways to be an active force in our own lives. We must take charge of our own destinies, design a life of substance and truly begin to live our dreams." - Les Brown
261312 (Developer Programmer) - Main | 261111 (ICT Business Analyst) - Wife
189 (95), 190 (100)
2023
14 Nov | BIG MOVE
01 Nov | HIRED | First day of work. Remote working arrangement from SG
--- Trying my luck at job hunting while in Singapore and BM planning on the side ---
19 Apr | Direct Visa Grant | What a journey... JUST GRATEFUL!
2022 - Pandemic Eases Off
17 Nov | Medical Test Clearance
15 Nov | Medical Test
03 Nov | EOI #4, #6 | 189 Withdrawn, 190 NSW Withdrawn
03 Nov | Visa Application | 190 VIC --- THE REAL WAITING GAME BEGINS!!!
31 Oct | ITA | 190 VIC | never thought this day would come!!! T.T good decision to defer NSW nomination.
27 Oct | Pre-ITA | 190 NSW --- sabi nila, when it rains, it pours!!!
26 Oct | Nomination Application | 190 VIC
26 Oct | Pre-ITA | 190 VIC --- one step closer, sa wakas, PADAYON!!!
21 Oct | EOI #4, #5 + ROI, #6 DoE | 189, 190 VIC, 190 NSW
21 Oct | ACS Assessment (Wife) Renewal - Suitable
xx Mar| EOI#1, #2, #3 | 189 Expired, 190 NSW Expired, 190 VIC Expired
2021 - Pandemic Still
25 Sep | ACS Assessment (Main) Renewal - Suitable
01 Feb | EOI#4 DoE | 189
2020 - Pandemic
19 Aug | EOI#1, #2, #3 DoE | 189, 190 NSW, 190 VIC
30 Jul | NAATI CCL Online Test | Result: Passed
09 Mar | PTE (Wife) | Results: L90 R80 S90 W82 (Superior)
19 Feb | PTE (Main) | Results: L90 R83 S90 W82 (Superior)
12 Feb | ACS Assessment (Wife) - Suitable | Expired
2019
24 Oct | ACS Assessment (Main) - Suitable | Expired
2018
--- Tons of research, document collection and other necessary preparations ---
01 Sep | The Beginning | Had the chance to visit Oz, and immediately fell in love with it!
Joined: Mar 10, 2016
It's very logical approach, however, as mentioned earlier, the professional/legal practice is if the new job is the same type of work, then it's ok to claim on EOI. If tasks are still aligned with ANZSCO code and able to provide supporting documents ie employment reference letter and paid evidences, there is no reason why DHA will dispute such claim as what is being claimed is after the deemed date and conforms with the policy. It is very unnecessary to undertake another skills assessment as suggested.
Unfortunately, the law supersedes human logic..
The policy states:
10.4.1 Assessing periods of skilled employment
When assessing periods of skilled employment for the purpose of awarding points, the following must be taken into account:
the opinion of the relevant skills assessing authority on the period of skilled employment including the date on which they deemed the applicant skilled; and
the Australian and New Zealand Standard Classification of Occupations (ANZSCO) including any pre-requisite qualifications/work experience relevant to the claimed skilled employment; and
any other relevant information (such as employment records and references).
If the skills assessing authority’s opinion would result in the applicant being awarded less points than the applicant claimed in their EOI, then decision makers should consider the information in ANZSCO and apply the more beneficial outcome in determining when the applicant was working at a skilled level.
While having regard to the opinion provided by skills assessing authorities, decision makers also need to be satisfied with the bona fides of the supporting documents presented in making their decision to award points.
The regulations require only that an applicant is employed in a nominated skilled occupation for a particular period of time. The provision does not require the applicant to have skills of a particular standard during that period of employment. The decision maker can consider whether the applicant is undertaking at least some of the duties prescribed for the position in ANZSCO, for example, if a client is claiming employment as a carpenter, the tasks they are undertaking are those of a carpenter.
Hope the legal policy above will put an end to the confusion re the initial question - Wouldn't it fall under overclaiming of employment points in case?
Understandably, DIY applicants will approach this with caution. Hence, the key is familiarity of the policy.
With regards to - Or is it overclaiming only if you put a date earlier than the assessment MET Date to claim points?
Joined: May 18, 2023
This is just my personal understanding:
ACS does not determine what is or is not qualified employment _beyond _ the date deemed qualified for the position.
I think their only job is determining your education equivalence in AU and **when ** you were deemed qualified for the ANZSCO position you applied for, if at all.
I guess when you look at it that way, all job entries you added in your ACS application beyond your qualified date is redundant - because DHA will be the one to review that in your actual visa application.
Developer Programmer - ANZSCO 261312
[Age: 30 I Education: 15 | English: 20 l Work Exp: 10 l Partner: 5 | State: 5 | Total: SC190: (85)]
TIMELINE
2023
26-Apr-2023 - IELTS IDP General Result (Main) -> LRSW 8.5|8.5|7.5|7.5 (Proficient)
30-Apr-2023 - Started preparing requirements for ACS Skill Assessment
26-May-2023 - ACS Migration Skill Assessment Submitted (ANZSCO 261312)
30-May-2023 - ACS Status changed - With Assessor
14-Jun-2023 - PTE Academic Result (Partner) -> LRSW 76|77|72|76 (Proficient)
14-Jun-2023 - PTE Academic Result (Main) -> LRSW 90|90|90|90 (Superior)
28-Aug-2023 - ACS Skill Assessment Results - Suitable
28-Aug-2023 - Submitted EOI SC190 (NSW)
28-Aug-2023 - Submitted EOI SC190 (VIC)
28-Aug-2023 - Submitted EOI SC189
12-Sep-2023 - VIC 190/491 ROI Opened, Submitted VIC SC190 ROI
2024
12-Jan-2024 - Pre-Invite NSW SC190
12-Jan-2024 - Application Submitted for NSW
02-Feb-2024 - NSW Nomination Approval + ITA
02-Feb-2024 - SC190 VIC EOI/ROI Withdrawn, SC189 EOI Withdrawn
02-Feb-2024 - SC190 NSW Visa Application Lodged
06-Feb-2024 - Medical Tests Done
12-Feb-2024 - All Medicals Cleared
XX-XXX-2024 - Visa Grant! (manifesting)
Joined: Mar 10, 2016
Yes and no…as per previous post, the policy states that:
When assessing periods of skilled employment for the purpose of awarding points, the following must be taken into account:
the opinion of the relevant skills assessing authority on the period of skilled employment including the date on which they deemed the applicant skilled; and
the Australian and New Zealand Standard Classification of Occupations (ANZSCO) including any pre-requisite qualifications/work experience relevant to the claimed skilled employment; and
any other relevant information (such as employment records and references).
Joined: Mar 10, 2016
By law, assessing authorities are not required to assess employment experience but their opinion is considered. It’s just an added service assessing authorities provide.
Posts: 770Member
Joined: Nov 15, 2021
Is there a thing in the EOI (prior invite), where my employment points decrease because Skillselect will count from current year minus 10yrs? Or is it ACS' assessed relevant years of employment that should be acknowledged?
Say for example, I got employment deemed relevant from 2013 to 2022 (15points). By 2023 and still no invite, will my skilled employment points be reduced from 15 to 10? Thanks.
OCCUPATION : SOFTWARE ENGINEER (261313) ~~ DIY. Offshore.
Total Points ~~ NSW SC190: 90pts
Points Breakdown:
Age:25 | English:20 | Employment:15 | Education:15 | Single:10
Been to Australia a few times and I just wanted to settle there. "I belong here" ganon.
~~~~
10 2021 - Research about AU migration; read a lot of related articles; consulted with agent for initial assessment. Decided to DIY.
11 2021 - PTE (Proficient)
11 2021 - Suitable ACS Skills Assessment received (8+ years suitable, 5weeks 4days TAT)
~~~~
01 2022 - EOIs submitted (matumal and slight hiatus since na-busy sa ibang bagay)
~~~~
09 2023 - PTE retake (Superior 90 overall)
09 2023 - Updated EOIs to reflect +10pts on English Test
11 2023 - ACS Assessment expired T_T (but already prepared for re-assessment a few weeks before)
11 2023 - ACS deemed my skills unsuitable because of missing documents. Nilaban ko.
12 2023 - Suitable ACS Skills reassessment (8+ years) after 1month of review and pangungulit (no fee incurred, fault nila)
12 2023 - Some EOIs expired T_T
12 2023 - New EOIs submitted (NSW, VIC, ACT, and 189)
~~~~
02 2024 - Booked NAATI Exam (desperate to max out point for a chance of invite)
02 2024 - Received NSW 190 pre-invite!! ✩₊˚ (tears of joy, TYL! ). Cancelled NAATI test at 75% refund.
02 2024 - Final NSW ITA received after 1 business day ✩₊˚
02 2024 - Visa Lodgement
02 2024 - Medicals. Cleared after 1 business day @ SATA AMK
02 2024 - Singapore Police Clearance. Completed/claimed after 6 business days
_ _ 2024 - ✩₊˚.⋆☾⋆⁺₊✧** Visa Grant! **✩₊˚.⋆☾⋆⁺₊✧
Posts: 1,002Member, Moderator
Joined: Sep 13, 2019
That's unheard of. And it might not be possible, kasi skills assessment is valid for 2yrs only for the case of ACS. So, palaging aabutin na mag re-assessment ka for the past 10yrs na period, and every time posibleng, magbago yung skilled level met date.
Alam ko lang na sure, age points lang yung merong ganyang decrease.
DIY all the way. Avoid preachy, know-it-all, and unscrupulous agents AT ALL COSTS!
"We must look for ways to be an active force in our own lives. We must take charge of our own destinies, design a life of substance and truly begin to live our dreams." - Les Brown
261312 (Developer Programmer) - Main | 261111 (ICT Business Analyst) - Wife
189 (95), 190 (100)
2023
14 Nov | BIG MOVE
01 Nov | HIRED | First day of work. Remote working arrangement from SG
--- Trying my luck at job hunting while in Singapore and BM planning on the side ---
19 Apr | Direct Visa Grant | What a journey... JUST GRATEFUL!
2022 - Pandemic Eases Off
17 Nov | Medical Test Clearance
15 Nov | Medical Test
03 Nov | EOI #4, #6 | 189 Withdrawn, 190 NSW Withdrawn
03 Nov | Visa Application | 190 VIC --- THE REAL WAITING GAME BEGINS!!!
31 Oct | ITA | 190 VIC | never thought this day would come!!! T.T good decision to defer NSW nomination.
27 Oct | Pre-ITA | 190 NSW --- sabi nila, when it rains, it pours!!!
26 Oct | Nomination Application | 190 VIC
26 Oct | Pre-ITA | 190 VIC --- one step closer, sa wakas, PADAYON!!!
21 Oct | EOI #4, #5 + ROI, #6 DoE | 189, 190 VIC, 190 NSW
21 Oct | ACS Assessment (Wife) Renewal - Suitable
xx Mar| EOI#1, #2, #3 | 189 Expired, 190 NSW Expired, 190 VIC Expired
2021 - Pandemic Still
25 Sep | ACS Assessment (Main) Renewal - Suitable
01 Feb | EOI#4 DoE | 189
2020 - Pandemic
19 Aug | EOI#1, #2, #3 DoE | 189, 190 NSW, 190 VIC
30 Jul | NAATI CCL Online Test | Result: Passed
09 Mar | PTE (Wife) | Results: L90 R80 S90 W82 (Superior)
19 Feb | PTE (Main) | Results: L90 R83 S90 W82 (Superior)
12 Feb | ACS Assessment (Wife) - Suitable | Expired
2019
24 Oct | ACS Assessment (Main) - Suitable | Expired
2018
--- Tons of research, document collection and other necessary preparations ---
01 Sep | The Beginning | Had the chance to visit Oz, and immediately fell in love with it!
Posts: 1,002Member, Moderator
Joined: Sep 13, 2019
By law hindi required? So, pwedeng hindi magpa-assess? Hmm. Pero need ng skills assessment sa EOI, right?
DIY all the way. Avoid preachy, know-it-all, and unscrupulous agents AT ALL COSTS!
"We must look for ways to be an active force in our own lives. We must take charge of our own destinies, design a life of substance and truly begin to live our dreams." - Les Brown
261312 (Developer Programmer) - Main | 261111 (ICT Business Analyst) - Wife
189 (95), 190 (100)
2023
14 Nov | BIG MOVE
01 Nov | HIRED | First day of work. Remote working arrangement from SG
--- Trying my luck at job hunting while in Singapore and BM planning on the side ---
19 Apr | Direct Visa Grant | What a journey... JUST GRATEFUL!
2022 - Pandemic Eases Off
17 Nov | Medical Test Clearance
15 Nov | Medical Test
03 Nov | EOI #4, #6 | 189 Withdrawn, 190 NSW Withdrawn
03 Nov | Visa Application | 190 VIC --- THE REAL WAITING GAME BEGINS!!!
31 Oct | ITA | 190 VIC | never thought this day would come!!! T.T good decision to defer NSW nomination.
27 Oct | Pre-ITA | 190 NSW --- sabi nila, when it rains, it pours!!!
26 Oct | Nomination Application | 190 VIC
26 Oct | Pre-ITA | 190 VIC --- one step closer, sa wakas, PADAYON!!!
21 Oct | EOI #4, #5 + ROI, #6 DoE | 189, 190 VIC, 190 NSW
21 Oct | ACS Assessment (Wife) Renewal - Suitable
xx Mar| EOI#1, #2, #3 | 189 Expired, 190 NSW Expired, 190 VIC Expired
2021 - Pandemic Still
25 Sep | ACS Assessment (Main) Renewal - Suitable
01 Feb | EOI#4 DoE | 189
2020 - Pandemic
19 Aug | EOI#1, #2, #3 DoE | 189, 190 NSW, 190 VIC
30 Jul | NAATI CCL Online Test | Result: Passed
09 Mar | PTE (Wife) | Results: L90 R80 S90 W82 (Superior)
19 Feb | PTE (Main) | Results: L90 R83 S90 W82 (Superior)
12 Feb | ACS Assessment (Wife) - Suitable | Expired
2019
24 Oct | ACS Assessment (Main) - Suitable | Expired
2018
--- Tons of research, document collection and other necessary preparations ---
01 Sep | The Beginning | Had the chance to visit Oz, and immediately fell in love with it!
Joined: Mar 10, 2016
Skills assessment is not skilled employment assessment. Do not mix this up. That’s why skilled employment assessment is optional for other assessing authorities such as EA, AITSL CPA and others. All it takes for immigration is a positive skills assessment. So, going back to the policy I shared previously, when assessing periods of skilled employment for awarding of points, they will take into account the opinion of the assessing authority including the deemed date and the ANZSCO along with other relevant documents.
The skills assessment outcome confirms that the applicant’s skills are of Australian standard and a deemed date is given. That’s all what the department needs to see. Employment experience claimed from this date whether it was officially assessed by an assessing body or not will be considered by the department if duties are aligned with ANZSCO tasks.
ACS and VETASSESS include the employment assessment in their skills assessment as the work experience is part of their criteria for positive skills assessment. Other assessing bodies do not require this. However, for peace of mind, a lot avail the employment assessment service to validate their claim on employment. I myself encourage my clients to avail this service para it’s in black and white na, no uncertainty, mas confident when claiming experience …but when it comes to ACS outcome (or any outcome by any assessing body) where work experience were already recognised, I wouldn’t bother my clients to have their skills assessed again just so they can claim their new employment . The fact that the previous employment episodes was recognised by ACS, it follows that the succeeding experience (beyond what was assessed) can be claimable as long as tasks are still aligned with ANZSCO.
That’s why there are members in this forum who post under EA skills assessment where they mention they did not avail the RSEA service and still claimed their relevant experience when they lodged their EOI.
Joined: Mar 10, 2016
Sorry I’m not sure if I understood your question. If your deemed date on acs outcome is ie 20 July 2013, then you can claim only from 28 august 2013 ( because July is beyond 10 years already).
If your employment experience was assessed until ie December 2022 but you are still in the same occupation (with the same employer or new employer), you can continue to claim until present. Skillselect will always count until 10 years back. So for example, by December 2023 still no invite but still in the same occupation, skillselect will calculatefrom December 2013 until December 2023. You still have 15 points because you’re claiming more than 8 years skilled work experience. Hope that makes sense?
Posts: 1,002Member, Moderator
Joined: Sep 13, 2019
Ah, got it. So, nagkataon lang pala na sa ACS at VETASSESS kasama na ang employment assessment sa skills assessment routine nila. Interesting.
Yeah, for EA I'm aware that RSEA is not required.
DIY all the way. Avoid preachy, know-it-all, and unscrupulous agents AT ALL COSTS!
"We must look for ways to be an active force in our own lives. We must take charge of our own destinies, design a life of substance and truly begin to live our dreams." - Les Brown
261312 (Developer Programmer) - Main | 261111 (ICT Business Analyst) - Wife
189 (95), 190 (100)
2023
14 Nov | BIG MOVE
01 Nov | HIRED | First day of work. Remote working arrangement from SG
--- Trying my luck at job hunting while in Singapore and BM planning on the side ---
19 Apr | Direct Visa Grant | What a journey... JUST GRATEFUL!
2022 - Pandemic Eases Off
17 Nov | Medical Test Clearance
15 Nov | Medical Test
03 Nov | EOI #4, #6 | 189 Withdrawn, 190 NSW Withdrawn
03 Nov | Visa Application | 190 VIC --- THE REAL WAITING GAME BEGINS!!!
31 Oct | ITA | 190 VIC | never thought this day would come!!! T.T good decision to defer NSW nomination.
27 Oct | Pre-ITA | 190 NSW --- sabi nila, when it rains, it pours!!!
26 Oct | Nomination Application | 190 VIC
26 Oct | Pre-ITA | 190 VIC --- one step closer, sa wakas, PADAYON!!!
21 Oct | EOI #4, #5 + ROI, #6 DoE | 189, 190 VIC, 190 NSW
21 Oct | ACS Assessment (Wife) Renewal - Suitable
xx Mar| EOI#1, #2, #3 | 189 Expired, 190 NSW Expired, 190 VIC Expired
2021 - Pandemic Still
25 Sep | ACS Assessment (Main) Renewal - Suitable
01 Feb | EOI#4 DoE | 189
2020 - Pandemic
19 Aug | EOI#1, #2, #3 DoE | 189, 190 NSW, 190 VIC
30 Jul | NAATI CCL Online Test | Result: Passed
09 Mar | PTE (Wife) | Results: L90 R80 S90 W82 (Superior)
19 Feb | PTE (Main) | Results: L90 R83 S90 W82 (Superior)
12 Feb | ACS Assessment (Wife) - Suitable | Expired
2019
24 Oct | ACS Assessment (Main) - Suitable | Expired
2018
--- Tons of research, document collection and other necessary preparations ---
01 Sep | The Beginning | Had the chance to visit Oz, and immediately fell in love with it!
Joined: May 18, 2023
Happy day!! Finally received the results and no bad outcomes
Developer Programmer - ANZSCO 261312
[Age: 30 I Education: 15 | English: 20 l Work Exp: 10 l Partner: 5 | State: 5 | Total: SC190: (85)]
TIMELINE
2023
26-Apr-2023 - IELTS IDP General Result (Main) -> LRSW 8.5|8.5|7.5|7.5 (Proficient)
30-Apr-2023 - Started preparing requirements for ACS Skill Assessment
26-May-2023 - ACS Migration Skill Assessment Submitted (ANZSCO 261312)
30-May-2023 - ACS Status changed - With Assessor
14-Jun-2023 - PTE Academic Result (Partner) -> LRSW 76|77|72|76 (Proficient)
14-Jun-2023 - PTE Academic Result (Main) -> LRSW 90|90|90|90 (Superior)
28-Aug-2023 - ACS Skill Assessment Results - Suitable
28-Aug-2023 - Submitted EOI SC190 (NSW)
28-Aug-2023 - Submitted EOI SC190 (VIC)
28-Aug-2023 - Submitted EOI SC189
12-Sep-2023 - VIC 190/491 ROI Opened, Submitted VIC SC190 ROI
2024
12-Jan-2024 - Pre-Invite NSW SC190
12-Jan-2024 - Application Submitted for NSW
02-Feb-2024 - NSW Nomination Approval + ITA
02-Feb-2024 - SC190 VIC EOI/ROI Withdrawn, SC189 EOI Withdrawn
02-Feb-2024 - SC190 NSW Visa Application Lodged
06-Feb-2024 - Medical Tests Done
12-Feb-2024 - All Medicals Cleared
XX-XXX-2024 - Visa Grant! (manifesting)
Joined: May 18, 2023
Hi guys I would like to confirm what I need to put into this field:
Is it the date I received the results (28 Aug 2023)
Or the date deemed qualified (28 July 2017)?
Developer Programmer - ANZSCO 261312
[Age: 30 I Education: 15 | English: 20 l Work Exp: 10 l Partner: 5 | State: 5 | Total: SC190: (85)]
TIMELINE
2023
26-Apr-2023 - IELTS IDP General Result (Main) -> LRSW 8.5|8.5|7.5|7.5 (Proficient)
30-Apr-2023 - Started preparing requirements for ACS Skill Assessment
26-May-2023 - ACS Migration Skill Assessment Submitted (ANZSCO 261312)
30-May-2023 - ACS Status changed - With Assessor
14-Jun-2023 - PTE Academic Result (Partner) -> LRSW 76|77|72|76 (Proficient)
14-Jun-2023 - PTE Academic Result (Main) -> LRSW 90|90|90|90 (Superior)
28-Aug-2023 - ACS Skill Assessment Results - Suitable
28-Aug-2023 - Submitted EOI SC190 (NSW)
28-Aug-2023 - Submitted EOI SC190 (VIC)
28-Aug-2023 - Submitted EOI SC189
12-Sep-2023 - VIC 190/491 ROI Opened, Submitted VIC SC190 ROI
2024
12-Jan-2024 - Pre-Invite NSW SC190
12-Jan-2024 - Application Submitted for NSW
02-Feb-2024 - NSW Nomination Approval + ITA
02-Feb-2024 - SC190 VIC EOI/ROI Withdrawn, SC189 EOI Withdrawn
02-Feb-2024 - SC190 NSW Visa Application Lodged
06-Feb-2024 - Medical Tests Done
12-Feb-2024 - All Medicals Cleared
XX-XXX-2024 - Visa Grant! (manifesting)
Joined: May 18, 2023
Sorry forgot to put the picture for the above comment:
Developer Programmer - ANZSCO 261312
[Age: 30 I Education: 15 | English: 20 l Work Exp: 10 l Partner: 5 | State: 5 | Total: SC190: (85)]
TIMELINE
2023
26-Apr-2023 - IELTS IDP General Result (Main) -> LRSW 8.5|8.5|7.5|7.5 (Proficient)
30-Apr-2023 - Started preparing requirements for ACS Skill Assessment
26-May-2023 - ACS Migration Skill Assessment Submitted (ANZSCO 261312)
30-May-2023 - ACS Status changed - With Assessor
14-Jun-2023 - PTE Academic Result (Partner) -> LRSW 76|77|72|76 (Proficient)
14-Jun-2023 - PTE Academic Result (Main) -> LRSW 90|90|90|90 (Superior)
28-Aug-2023 - ACS Skill Assessment Results - Suitable
28-Aug-2023 - Submitted EOI SC190 (NSW)
28-Aug-2023 - Submitted EOI SC190 (VIC)
28-Aug-2023 - Submitted EOI SC189
12-Sep-2023 - VIC 190/491 ROI Opened, Submitted VIC SC190 ROI
2024
12-Jan-2024 - Pre-Invite NSW SC190
12-Jan-2024 - Application Submitted for NSW
02-Feb-2024 - NSW Nomination Approval + ITA
02-Feb-2024 - SC190 VIC EOI/ROI Withdrawn, SC189 EOI Withdrawn
02-Feb-2024 - SC190 NSW Visa Application Lodged
06-Feb-2024 - Medical Tests Done
12-Feb-2024 - All Medicals Cleared
XX-XXX-2024 - Visa Grant! (manifesting)
Joined: May 18, 2023
I am getting 90 points when I should be getting 85.. There's no place to put in the qualified date from ACS?
My total employment is more than 8 years but I'm expecting to get -2 years so it should not be the full 15 points
Developer Programmer - ANZSCO 261312
[Age: 30 I Education: 15 | English: 20 l Work Exp: 10 l Partner: 5 | State: 5 | Total: SC190: (85)]
TIMELINE
2023
26-Apr-2023 - IELTS IDP General Result (Main) -> LRSW 8.5|8.5|7.5|7.5 (Proficient)
30-Apr-2023 - Started preparing requirements for ACS Skill Assessment
26-May-2023 - ACS Migration Skill Assessment Submitted (ANZSCO 261312)
30-May-2023 - ACS Status changed - With Assessor
14-Jun-2023 - PTE Academic Result (Partner) -> LRSW 76|77|72|76 (Proficient)
14-Jun-2023 - PTE Academic Result (Main) -> LRSW 90|90|90|90 (Superior)
28-Aug-2023 - ACS Skill Assessment Results - Suitable
28-Aug-2023 - Submitted EOI SC190 (NSW)
28-Aug-2023 - Submitted EOI SC190 (VIC)
28-Aug-2023 - Submitted EOI SC189
12-Sep-2023 - VIC 190/491 ROI Opened, Submitted VIC SC190 ROI
2024
12-Jan-2024 - Pre-Invite NSW SC190
12-Jan-2024 - Application Submitted for NSW
02-Feb-2024 - NSW Nomination Approval + ITA
02-Feb-2024 - SC190 VIC EOI/ROI Withdrawn, SC189 EOI Withdrawn
02-Feb-2024 - SC190 NSW Visa Application Lodged
06-Feb-2024 - Medical Tests Done
12-Feb-2024 - All Medicals Cleared
XX-XXX-2024 - Visa Grant! (manifesting)
Posts: 1,002Member, Moderator
Joined: Sep 13, 2019
Don't mark the periods BEFORE the deemed skilled date as relevant.
DIY all the way. Avoid preachy, know-it-all, and unscrupulous agents AT ALL COSTS!
"We must look for ways to be an active force in our own lives. We must take charge of our own destinies, design a life of substance and truly begin to live our dreams." - Les Brown
261312 (Developer Programmer) - Main | 261111 (ICT Business Analyst) - Wife
189 (95), 190 (100)
2023
14 Nov | BIG MOVE
01 Nov | HIRED | First day of work. Remote working arrangement from SG
--- Trying my luck at job hunting while in Singapore and BM planning on the side ---
19 Apr | Direct Visa Grant | What a journey... JUST GRATEFUL!
2022 - Pandemic Eases Off
17 Nov | Medical Test Clearance
15 Nov | Medical Test
03 Nov | EOI #4, #6 | 189 Withdrawn, 190 NSW Withdrawn
03 Nov | Visa Application | 190 VIC --- THE REAL WAITING GAME BEGINS!!!
31 Oct | ITA | 190 VIC | never thought this day would come!!! T.T good decision to defer NSW nomination.
27 Oct | Pre-ITA | 190 NSW --- sabi nila, when it rains, it pours!!!
26 Oct | Nomination Application | 190 VIC
26 Oct | Pre-ITA | 190 VIC --- one step closer, sa wakas, PADAYON!!!
21 Oct | EOI #4, #5 + ROI, #6 DoE | 189, 190 VIC, 190 NSW
21 Oct | ACS Assessment (Wife) Renewal - Suitable
xx Mar| EOI#1, #2, #3 | 189 Expired, 190 NSW Expired, 190 VIC Expired
2021 - Pandemic Still
25 Sep | ACS Assessment (Main) Renewal - Suitable
01 Feb | EOI#4 DoE | 189
2020 - Pandemic
19 Aug | EOI#1, #2, #3 DoE | 189, 190 NSW, 190 VIC
30 Jul | NAATI CCL Online Test | Result: Passed
09 Mar | PTE (Wife) | Results: L90 R80 S90 W82 (Superior)
19 Feb | PTE (Main) | Results: L90 R83 S90 W82 (Superior)
12 Feb | ACS Assessment (Wife) - Suitable | Expired
2019
24 Oct | ACS Assessment (Main) - Suitable | Expired
2018
--- Tons of research, document collection and other necessary preparations ---
01 Sep | The Beginning | Had the chance to visit Oz, and immediately fell in love with it!