VETASSESS_No result to be issued 'coz of 1 Closed Company

Zion · October 2023

Hello po, badly need help and advise po.
My husband has total of 4 companies na employed sya.
Vetassess only commented sa previous company nya sa Dubai na closed na. We did few submission of documents incl. Statutory declaration and cover letter na may bonggang bonggang explanation.
We've provided all supp documents and we're confident sa lahat ng supp docs namin for date of employments and task performed.
We are even able to get his previous HR Manager to sign his Salary Cert and Statement of Service including his previous visa under their same company as proof na employed din sya previously within the same period with my husband.
Sadly, ayaw padin tanggapin ni Vetassess and pinakamasakit pa and so unfair is they will close and give him no result in short rejected un application.
Acceptable na samin if di nila credit work experience nya sa closed company sa dubai pero ung pati ung 3companies madadamay pa.
Meron po ba same experience tulad sa husband ko?
Kakapressure pa dahil 7days lang din binigay nila saming time to respond.
Can't help to feel down and discouraged dahil first step palang namin pero ganto na.

maguero · October 2023

@Zion said:
Hello po, badly need help and advise po.
My husband has total of 4 companies na employed sya.
Vetassess only commented sa previous company nya sa Dubai na closed na. We did few submission of documents incl. Statutory declaration and cover letter na may bonggang bonggang explanation.
We've provided all supp documents and we're confident sa lahat ng supp docs namin for date of employments and task performed.
We are even able to get his previous HR Manager to sign his Salary Cert and Statement of Service including his previous visa under their same company as proof na employed din sya previously within the same period with my husband.
Sadly, ayaw padin tanggapin ni Vetassess and pinakamasakit pa and so unfair is they will close and give him no result in short rejected un application.
Acceptable na samin if di nila credit work experience nya sa closed company sa dubai pero ung pati ung 3companies madadamay pa.
Meron po ba same experience tulad sa husband ko?
Kakapressure pa dahil 7days lang din binigay nila saming time to respond.
Can't help to feel down and discouraged dahil first step palang namin pero ganto na.

Ano yung kulang na document that they are asking for?

Zion · October 2023

Hi @maguero, ito po mga hiningi ni VA na documents.
1. Proof of employment dates
2. Tasks performed
3. Payment Evidence.
First reply namin, nagprovide na kami ng Stat Declaration with supp docs for all but hindi padin tinanggap.
Then next, ung signed Statement of Service and Payment Cert by their previous HR Manager po.
VA wanted us to get it from the 'employer'. Which is many times na namin hini-highlight na closed na ung company.

maguero · October 2023

@Zion said:
Hi @maguero, ito po mga hiningi ni VA na documents.
1. Proof of employment dates
2. Tasks performed
3. Payment Evidence.
First reply namin, nagprovide na kami ng Stat Declaration with supp docs for all but hindi padin tinanggap.
Then next, ung signed Statement of Service and Payment Cert by their previous HR Manager po.
VA wanted us to get it from the 'employer'. Which is many times na namin hini-highlight na closed na ung company.

Yung case ko dati was I had an employer that was acquired by another company so totally nag-iba na yung name ng company and iba na yung address, tapos wala na akong kilala doon.

Hindi naman ako binalikan. I never declared that the company was non existent na dahil na acquire na sya. Pero when I submitted my documents I made sure I gave a combination of old documents in the company letterhead and documents from a third party (BIR) to prove my claim of paid employment. Ang pumirma lang ng stat dec ko was a colleague na ka-level ko dahil sya lang nahagilap ko. I stated naman sa stat dec na colleague lang sya.

Yung proof of employment and payment evidence that you submitted, was it a combination of old documents in the company letterhead and documents from a third party/government?

Zion · October 2023

Yung sa payment evidence po, Bank Statement lang meron kami. Kaya lang kasi PO Box and Department lang ng husband ko nakaindicate sa summary, hindi ung mismong company name. Pero hini-highlight na namin naagcross reference sila sa ibang docs namin eg. PO Box, the word ‘Salary’ sa suammry with the same exact amt sa renumerarion sa Employment Contracts.
Sa proof of employment dates naman, medyo complicated kasi walang official resignation husband ko. That time kasi supposedly annual vacation lang nya sa pinas pero dahil financially struggling na company nya na 3mos+ wala sila sweldo kaya di na sya bumalik.
For the start date of employment, ung sa offer letter and employment agreement ang proof namin.
Sa end date of employment naman nya ung POLO Verified Contract nya for his OEC purpose. Day before his flight lang to at even ung boarding pass nya DXB-MNL inattached nadin namin. Ilang beses na namin inexplain ung POLO Verified Contracts na stamped ng embassy is sufficient enough to prove na he is still officially and legally employed dun sa company nya dati coz it won’t be verified and attested in the first place kung hindi.
Pero ayun nga po di padin nila tinanggap 😔

maguero · October 2023

@Zion said:
Yung sa payment evidence po, Bank Statement lang meron kami. Kaya lang kasi PO Box and Department lang ng husband ko nakaindicate sa summary, hindi ung mismong company name. Pero hini-highlight na namin naagcross reference sila sa ibang docs namin eg. PO Box, the word ‘Salary’ sa suammry with the same exact amt sa renumerarion sa Employment Contracts.
Sa proof of employment dates naman, medyo complicated kasi walang official resignation husband ko. That time kasi supposedly annual vacation lang nya sa pinas pero dahil financially struggling na company nya na 3mos+ wala sila sweldo kaya di na sya bumalik.
For the start date of employment, ung sa offer letter and employment agreement ang proof namin.
Sa end date of employment naman nya ung POLO Verified Contract nya for his OEC purpose. Day before his flight lang to at even ung boarding pass nya DXB-MNL inattached nadin namin. Ilang beses na namin inexplain ung POLO Verified Contracts na stamped ng embassy is sufficient enough to prove na he is still officially and legally employed dun sa company nya dati coz it won’t be verified and attested in the first place kung hindi.
Pero ayun nga po di padin nila tinanggap 😔

May thread dito for applicants who worked in the Middle East. I suggest you post there to ask for alternatives. I don't think tatanggapin nila ang POLO certified document because POLO is a Philippine government agency. You likely need to provide a document from the government of the country where your husband worked. Same with the proof of payment. Generally yan kasi ang requirement ng Vetassess - verifiable documents from the employer and from the government of the country where you worked. For example, pag sa Saudi parang resident card ang sinusubmit nila because that only seems to be valid for the duration of the employment and is issued by the Saudi government.

Kailangan simple lang when making submissions related to getting an AU visa. Kung ano ang hinihingi yun ang ibigay.

Zion · October 2023

Yes, we've provided all his docs from UAE govt din eg. Emirates ID (resident card), MOHRE labour contract & card, visa etc.
We sent them email first, if they really find our docs insufficient for Dubai company then atleast assess and give us the result for the 3 other employers and experience ng husband ko.
Salamat po sa replies, appreciate it po.

Cerberus13 · October 2023

Naghigpit ba sila ngayon? I had 2 employers na nag close nung apply ako sa Vetassess wala naman naging issue. Try niyo pa pakiusapan na wag na lang i-consider yung employment na yan and proceed with the rest.

Zion · October 2023

Hi @Cerberus13 , yes we emailed them first to consider to assess the rest of my husband's employments then disregard nalang nila ung sa Dubai company.
Kaya lang nakakasad padin dahil as in kasi verifiable lahat ng docs namin, no loopholes or gap, lahat macross reference nila sa ibang supporting docs na binigay namin.
We are thinking na natapat lang din kami sa mahigpit na assessor hayst

Cerberus13 · October 2023

@Zion said:
Hi @Cerberus13 , yes we emailed them first to consider to assess the rest of my husband's employments then disregard nalang nila ung sa Dubai company.
Kaya lang nakakasad padin dahil as in kasi verifiable lahat ng docs namin, no loopholes or gap, lahat macross reference nila sa ibang supporting docs na binigay namin.
We are thinking na natapat lang din kami sa mahigpit na assessor hayst

If ever you get a final negative outcome because of this, you can request a review from Vetassess. It will be looked at by a different assessor, usually a more senior.

Quote from Vetassess:

If you disagree with your assessment outcome, you can request a review. If you choose this option, an assessor who did not participate in your original assessment will review the evidence you provided and confirm if the correct assessment outcome was made.

You must request a Review within 7 business days of receiving an unsuccessful assessment outcome by submitting a Request for Review form.

Zion · October 2023

Hi @Cerberus13 , thank you for the info and yes we will do if talagang negative outcome but we are still praying hard for their consideration hay.
Will try to update here if palarin maging positive assessment kami, if hindi baka di na huhu
Salamat sa reply mo! Have a nice day!