NAATI - CCL exam - additional 5 points for 189/190 visa

BrizyFilo

@MLBS hopefully before New year meron na. Araw araw ko nga chinecheck NAATI account ko.

BrizyFilo

I got the result a week before Christmas and I passed it (YEHEY!). The best gift for Christmas.

This is my 2nd take, and let me share my experience to you.

Yung 1st take ko, hindi ako nag handa. Umasa lang ako sa 2 dialogues from NAATI. Hindi talaga sapat yon. Tapos 2 days lang ang nag practice, then yun nga I failed the exam.

Sa 2nd take ko, sinabi ko sa sarili ko na I'm not gonna waste $800+, so 1 month ako nag prepare. Nag gather ako ng resources online. May website na pwedeng mag practice. Mandarin- English siya, pero ginamit ko yung english script. Very helpful. Naging praktisado ako sa Eglish to Filipino interpretation. Moreover, I asked my filo friends to record a dialogue in FIlipino, then I interpret that to english sa harap nila mismo para ma assess nila ako, and they give me feedback. In that case I realised my weaknesses and things to improve. Napaka limited ng materials na available, but if you really determined you can always find a way to practice.

CCL Pros

Just practice you Speaking and listening skills + good taking note skill.
You have 2 lifelines:
1. Self correction. You can correct yourself just say "I would like to repeat my interpretation", this is one of the examinee liefeline to save his life, but beware ka lang dahil too much self correction may deduct your points.
2. Playback-Replay. You can ask to replay the dialogue. This is another lifeline of the examinee to save their day, though you are only allowed to use this for two times per dialogue, so use it wisely. You can reuse this lifeline more than two per dialogue pero checker will deduct some points.
Concentration is the key. Tahimik ang paligid, dahil ikaw at ang proctor lang ang nasa loob ng room. Unlike sa PTE na parang palengke ang scenario during speaking module.
10-15 mins and you nare done. Hindi exhausted ang entire exam, and it will only last for couple of mins.

CCL Cons

Though may criteria of scoring pero I find it very subjective padin ang scoring dahil real human ang mag ssccore sayo unlike sa PTE.
Mas mahal siya compare sa PTE. It cost around $800 + GST
Currently sa Aus lang siya pede itake
8-10 weeks ang result. ANong petsa na?
Passed or failed lang ang result unlike sa PTE if you hit certain score you can claim certain points (e.g. 65 = 10 pts)

My personal tips:

Research the Filipino translation for diffcult words in medical, legal, Finance, and other related words. (e.g. Hika, Nasasakdal, tubo etc.)
Mag practice. Manood ng TV both LOTE and English. Then try to interpret their scripts.
Mag practice ng note taking, technique and make sure you can understand what you have written.
Talk to your proctor before the exam begin. Like kamustahan, observe the room. Pampawala ng kaba, and hinga ng malalim.
Just listen to the recoder na parang barakada mo lang yung pinakikingan mo, in that way mawawala ang kaba mo.
Imagine what the recoder says. Namnamin mo ika nga. Imagine that you are in the real life situation base sa sinasabi ng recoder. In this case hindi ka mahihirapang tandaan yung dialogue.
Say what you mean. Kapag i-interpret mo na ang script. Say it with emotions. Bigyan ng diin ang mahahalagang detalye. In this point checker will realise na confident ka sa interpreation at tooong nauunawaan mo ang dialogue.
Mag relax before the exam. Matulog ng maaga at gumising ng maaga. Makakatulong na ma obserbahan mo o maging pamilyar sa testing place para mawala ang kaba, at makahanap ng makakusap. Talk to your fellow examinee, ask them how they prepare, and you will know that you are not alone that facing the same situation.
Make sure na nakapag almusal ka before the exam. Brain will not work properly if you did not eat.
After the exam. Leave the place immediately. Take down the words na nahirapan ka i-translate. Makaktulong ito para i-assess ang sarili mo kung naitawid mo ang exam ng maayos.
Lastly, mag pray. If you do your best the exam then God will make the rest.

Goodluck!!!

BrizyFilo

Exam date: 22 Oct 2018

Exam result: 20 Dec 2018

Result: Passed

Number of take: 2

First Dialogue:

This dialogue takes place between Filipino speaker (insert name here), guardian of x and English speaker (insert name here), head of the school. The dialogue is related to bullying.

1st dialogue notable words:

English

Guardian
Push away
Kick
bullying
Supension
Adviser

Filipino

Taga payo
Mabigat na kalooban
Unang pagkakataon
Mabigat na kaparushan

2ns Dialogue:

This dialogue takes place between Filipino speaker (insert name here), a shoplifter and English speaker (insert name here), police officer. The dialogue is related to stealing of an iPhone.

2nd dialogue notable words:

English

Consequence
Fill up
Form
Review
Legal department
Shop
Run away
CCTV
Shoplifter

Filipino

Habulin
Mga kakilala
Magnanakaw
Bintang

My score:

Task A, Dialogue 1 = 32.5/45 (minimum passing mark 29)

Task B, Dialougue 2 = 34/45 (minimum passing mark 29)

Overall: 66.5/90 (minimum passing mark 63)

Decision2019

@BrizyFilo congrats!!! Thank you for sharing.

superluckyclover

Congrats, @BrizyFilo! Push ko na ang CCL! Salamat sa pag share ng experience.

MLBS

@BrizyFilo woooow congrats bro! Very helpful ang tips mo for us future takers! Happy for your success!

kailey

congrats po! and thank you sa pag share ng tips 🙂 @BrizyFilo

ajdee

@BrizyFilo Wow congrats! Thank you sa tips!

BrizyFilo

Thanks!

No worries at all.

Goodluck sa mga may schedule na.

Sa mga wala pang schedule, magbook na kayo. Pahirapan kumuha ng slot.

superluckyclover

Mag book na kayo, while marami pang slots for April and June sa South Australia and Canberra.

Piper003

@BrizyFilo congrats at salamat sa pagshare ng tips. pwde rin po pashare nung mandarin-english website na binanggit mo na pwd pagpraktisan? Thank you.

BrizyFilo

Hi all, you can use the English dialogue to practice here

http://carlgene.com/blog/interpreting-dialogues/

superluckyclover

Hello! I just booked my CCL test on Feb 20. Initially I planned to book it on April pa but I need to consider the time to process/release the result as I want to have our PR lodged before FY. I surrender everything to the Lord now and do my best in preparation and the day of the exam itself!! AJAAAAAA!

BrizyFilo

@superluckyclover good luck sayo. Pero as per you signature 75 pointers kana. bakit need mo pa ng additonal 5 points from CCL exam? nag lodge kanaba ng EOI?

superluckyclover

@BrizyFilo, ang skills assessment ko kasi is from Professional Year as I am an Australian Graduate. So around April pa ako makakapag EOI, security yung 80 pts para instant invite. 🙂

Piper003

@BrizyFilo thank you sa pagsend ng link.

becca91

Aww. Congratulations sa mga pumasa! I'm planning to take the exams this April in Canberra though hindi pa ako nakabook. Medyo kinakabahan if I'd be ready by that time.

@BrizyFilo, in your experience, masasabi mo ba na mahirap sya? How much time do you need to prepare? Nakakatakot kasi ang risky, I'd need to fly and spend that much para sa 5 points.

Also, how did you manage yung mga english words na hindi mo talaga alam itranslate sa tagalog?

BrizyFilo

Hi @becca91 , If I were you magbook kana. The earlier the better, pahirapan kumuha ng slots sa CCL, at isa pa baka mag change na naman ng immi rules pag sapit ng Pinansiyal na Bagong Taon. Wag ka manghinayang sa $800. Kasi kikitain pa natin yan, pero ang oppurtunity ndi na natin maibbalik. Oras ang kalaban natin. High risk, high reward ika nga.

Regarding sa tanong mo, naniniwala ako na kung handa tayo sa kahit anong pag susulit ay kaya nating ipasa ito. Maging handa ka lang at susunod na doon ang tiwala mo sa iyong sarili. Enero pa lang ngayon, mayroon ka pang humigit kumulang tatlong buwan para mag handa. Sa aking kaso, isang buwan ako nag handa para sa CCL.

How I managed yung mga english words na hindi ko talaga alam i-translate sa Filipino?

Nireremonda ko ang mga sumusonod:

Hiramin sa ingles ang salitang ugat at gumamit ng unlapi isang uri ng Panlapi. Gaya ng:

Nag-drive

Na-bully

Nag-lodge
Hiramin sa ingles ang salitang ugat at gumamit ng hunlapi isang uri ng Panlapi, Gaya ng ng:

Fill up-an

Review-(h)in

issue-(h)an
Hiramin sa ingles ang salitang ugat at gumamit ng gitalpi isang uri ng Panlapi. Gaya ng:

Dini-discuss - (Discussion)

ini-issue (Issuing)
Baybayin sa Filipino.

Halimbawa: Pinansiyal (Financial), Edukasyon (Education), Account (Akawnt), Porm (form), Isyu (issue), Telebisyon (Television), Sertipiko (Certificate)

Ngunit hanga't maari, kung may katumbas naman sa salitang Filipino ay subukang isalin sa pinakamalapit na kahulugan. Halimbawa:

Utang pa-bahay (Home Loan)
Main concern (Pangunahing Ikinakabahala) -- Dependending in the context
Bahay-Kalakal (Firm, company)
Tungkulin (Function/responsibility)
Makalawa (Fornightly)
Palabas sa Telebisyon (TV show)
Kasunduan sa pagrerenta (Tenancy agreement)

Kung wala talgang maisip na katumbas sa wikang Filipino, maari mo itong hiramin sa wikang Ingles (huwag nga lang madalas) upang hindi maapektukhan ang iyong "oral fluency". Halimbawa:

Gas (Ga-as)
Cellphone (Telepono)
Bank Account Statement (testamento ng aking/iyong akawnt sa bangko)
Application form (Porm ng aplikasyon).
Contact number (Kontak ng ugnayan)

Karagdagang Payo:

Makinig ng TV show, subukan isulat ang mga salitang Ingles na mahirap i-salin sa wikang Filipino. Pagkatapos ay manaliksik kung may katumbas ba ang mga salitang nailista.
Gumamit ng 'mgha" kung ang salitang Ingles ay may "s" sa hulihan. Halimbawa:
- Mga bahay (Houses)
- Mga kwarto (Rooms)
Maaring bigkasin sa Ingles ang mga numero kung ang pinag uusapan ay tungkol sa "contact details". Halimbawa:
Ginang Smith, maari po ninyo akong konatakin sa aking cellphone number one two five five four.

Note: Ang mga salin na ang nabangit sa itaas ay nangaling lamang sa'kin. Hindi ko kinukopirma kung tama ang mga ito.

Hope it helps.

becca91

@BrizyFilo thank you very much! Follow up questions -

After each segment, would you have time to digest the dialogue and write? Or agad-agad you have to speak na?
Yung sinasabi mong pwedeng ipa-repeat, and correct yourself, per segment ba yun or the whole examination time na?

Pasensya na sa istorbo. 🙂

BrizyFilo

@becca91

You only have 1-2 seconds para bumuwelo, and you have to speak right after you hear the chime.
Let me rephrase what I have said before. You may ask the Test Supervisor for any segment to be repeated. In such instances, the whole segment will be repeated. The first repetition in each dialogue may be requested without penalty; however, any further requests for repetitions will be penalised by the examiner.

You are not allowed to ask for a clarification of any part of a segment and the test supervisor cannot provide any advice about the test content. Lengthy pauses and repeated rewording (self-checking) of segments will be viewed as detracting significantly from the dynamics of the test task.

If you realise, during the test that you have made an error, you are permitted to insert a correction of that part before continuing. Any corrections should be prefaced by some suitable phrase (e.g. Sorry, I’ll just say that part again).

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