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bartowski

@_sebodemacho said:

@bartowski said:
Sorry to bring this up but sa ilang FB groups, nakikita ko na parang mas mabilis kung naka-DIY vs may Agent. I know naman na every application is unique and it has its own timeline pero madalas ko lang po talaga mapansin na parang mas mabilis ang processing kapag DIY. Sa State na po kaya ito? Mas prefer po ba nila un naka-DIY? Sorry po sa tanong ko, gusto ko lang po kasi maliwanagan.
It is not wrong to express your thoughts. 🙂
But an observation is valid only for the cases that are observable to the observer. I say this because, there may be people who hired agents that do not post their timeline/grant in those FB groups at all. Same case here in the forum. This does not make the observation totally wrong, though.
I'm just saying it's not the entire picture. Nobody here can really say for sure if DIYers get faster grants than those with agents, unless there is an absolute case study done to collect substantial data to declare this.

Thanks for the reply sir. Siguro po kasi ang hirap maghintay ng wala ka nakikita. I mean yung nakikita mo un status ng application from time to time. You need to ask or confirm pa sa agent. Kaya napa-tanong po ako dito. Salamat ponule sir

_sebodemacho

@bartowski said:

@_sebodemacho said:

@bartowski said:
Sorry to bring this up but sa ilang FB groups, nakikita ko na parang mas mabilis kung naka-DIY vs may Agent. I know naman na every application is unique and it has its own timeline pero madalas ko lang po talaga mapansin na parang mas mabilis ang processing kapag DIY. Sa State na po kaya ito? Mas prefer po ba nila un naka-DIY? Sorry po sa tanong ko, gusto ko lang po kasi maliwanagan.

It is not wrong to express your thoughts. 🙂

But an observation is valid only for the cases that are observable to the observer. I say this because, there may be people who hired agents that do not post their timeline/grant in those FB groups at all. Same case here in the forum. This does not make the observation totally wrong, though.

I'm just saying it's not the entire picture. Nobody here can really say for sure if DIYers get faster grants than those with agents, unless there is an absolute case study done to collect substantial data to declare this.
Thanks for the reply sir. Siguro po kasi ang hirap maghintay ng wala ka nakikita. I mean yung nakikita mo un status ng application from time to time. You need to ask or confirm pa sa agent. Kaya napa-tanong po ako dito. Salamat ponule sir

Nasa Visa Application stage na ba kayo? Kung oo, baka naman pwede nyo hingin yung reference number para ma-import nyo sa personal ImmiAccount nyo yung application. At least, magkakaron kayo ng view sa nangyayari.

bartowski

@_sebodemacho said:

@bartowski said:

@_sebodemacho said:

@bartowski said:
Sorry to bring this up but sa ilang FB groups, nakikita ko na parang mas mabilis kung naka-DIY vs may Agent. I know naman na every application is unique and it has its own timeline pero madalas ko lang po talaga mapansin na parang mas mabilis ang processing kapag DIY. Sa State na po kaya ito? Mas prefer po ba nila un naka-DIY? Sorry po sa tanong ko, gusto ko lang po kasi maliwanagan.

It is not wrong to express your thoughts. 🙂

But an observation is valid only for the cases that are observable to the observer. I say this because, there may be people who hired agents that do not post their timeline/grant in those FB groups at all. Same case here in the forum. This does not make the observation totally wrong, though.

I'm just saying it's not the entire picture. Nobody here can really say for sure if DIYers get faster grants than those with agents, unless there is an absolute case study done to collect substantial data to declare this.

Thanks for the reply sir. Siguro po kasi ang hirap maghintay ng wala ka nakikita. I mean yung nakikita mo un status ng application from time to time. You need to ask or confirm pa sa agent. Kaya napa-tanong po ako dito. Salamat ponule sir
Nasa Visa Application stage na ba kayo? Kung oo, baka naman pwede nyo hingin yung reference number para ma-import nyo sa personal ImmiAccount nyo yung application. At least, magkakaron kayo ng view sa nangyayari.

Waiting for invite palang po. Ah, pwede po pala yun ganyan.

_sebodemacho

@bartowski said:

@_sebodemacho said:

@bartowski said:

@_sebodemacho said:

@bartowski said:
Sorry to bring this up but sa ilang FB groups, nakikita ko na parang mas mabilis kung naka-DIY vs may Agent. I know naman na every application is unique and it has its own timeline pero madalas ko lang po talaga mapansin na parang mas mabilis ang processing kapag DIY. Sa State na po kaya ito? Mas prefer po ba nila un naka-DIY? Sorry po sa tanong ko, gusto ko lang po kasi maliwanagan.

It is not wrong to express your thoughts. 🙂

But an observation is valid only for the cases that are observable to the observer. I say this because, there may be people who hired agents that do not post their timeline/grant in those FB groups at all. Same case here in the forum. This does not make the observation totally wrong, though.

I'm just saying it's not the entire picture. Nobody here can really say for sure if DIYers get faster grants than those with agents, unless there is an absolute case study done to collect substantial data to declare this.

Thanks for the reply sir. Siguro po kasi ang hirap maghintay ng wala ka nakikita. I mean yung nakikita mo un status ng application from time to time. You need to ask or confirm pa sa agent. Kaya napa-tanong po ako dito. Salamat ponule sir

Nasa Visa Application stage na ba kayo? Kung oo, baka naman pwede nyo hingin yung reference number para ma-import nyo sa personal ImmiAccount nyo yung application. At least, magkakaron kayo ng view sa nangyayari.
Waiting for invite palang po. Ah, pwede po pala yun ganyan.

Yes, pero sa visa stage na yan. Haha. Sa EOI stage and waiting of invite, wala ata talagang choice. You have to check with the agent regularly.

Unsolicited advice lang bro, wag ka mainip. 🙂

Darating yan sa hindi nyo inaasahang pagkakataon. Live your life. Dont stress out. Madaling sabihin but you have to try not to overthink.

bartowski

@_sebodemacho said:

@bartowski said:

@_sebodemacho said:

@bartowski said:

@_sebodemacho said:

@bartowski said:
Sorry to bring this up but sa ilang FB groups, nakikita ko na parang mas mabilis kung naka-DIY vs may Agent. I know naman na every application is unique and it has its own timeline pero madalas ko lang po talaga mapansin na parang mas mabilis ang processing kapag DIY. Sa State na po kaya ito? Mas prefer po ba nila un naka-DIY? Sorry po sa tanong ko, gusto ko lang po kasi maliwanagan.

It is not wrong to express your thoughts. 🙂

But an observation is valid only for the cases that are observable to the observer. I say this because, there may be people who hired agents that do not post their timeline/grant in those FB groups at all. Same case here in the forum. This does not make the observation totally wrong, though.

I'm just saying it's not the entire picture. Nobody here can really say for sure if DIYers get faster grants than those with agents, unless there is an absolute case study done to collect substantial data to declare this.

Thanks for the reply sir. Siguro po kasi ang hirap maghintay ng wala ka nakikita. I mean yung nakikita mo un status ng application from time to time. You need to ask or confirm pa sa agent. Kaya napa-tanong po ako dito. Salamat ponule sir

Nasa Visa Application stage na ba kayo? Kung oo, baka naman pwede nyo hingin yung reference number para ma-import nyo sa personal ImmiAccount nyo yung application. At least, magkakaron kayo ng view sa nangyayari.

Waiting for invite palang po. Ah, pwede po pala yun ganyan.
Yes, pero sa visa stage na yan. Haha. Sa EOI stage and waiting of invite, wala ata talagang choice. You have to check with the agent regularly.
Unsolicited advice lang bro, wag ka mainip. 🙂
Darating yan sa hindi nyo inaasahang pagkakataon. Live your life. Dont stress out. Madaling sabihin but you have to try not to overthink.

Sige po sir, maraming salamat po sa advice 😁

anacaf

I agree. Not everyone is posting po. And may mga nakasabay din ako na nainvite few months ago , meron samin mga nakaagent and may mga nakadiy. So no one can tell talaga. 😊

ispidprik

Yes true nakakainip dn talaga naka-agent dn kmi kaya i sort of know how it feels not to see the actual status and question myself if they did it right. But since many of my colleagues used the same agency and was handled by the same agents confident nman na ako na they know what they’re doing. So far satisfied nman ako sa service nila and they update me immediately once meron changes. Currently nka-lodge na kmi ng visa (189) awaiting medical. It has been almost 1yr since we submitted our eoi to this point.

era222

@_sebodemacho said:

@bartowski said:

@_sebodemacho said:

@bartowski said:

@_sebodemacho said:

@bartowski said:
Sorry to bring this up but sa ilang FB groups, nakikita ko na parang mas mabilis kung naka-DIY vs may Agent. I know naman na every application is unique and it has its own timeline pero madalas ko lang po talaga mapansin na parang mas mabilis ang processing kapag DIY. Sa State na po kaya ito? Mas prefer po ba nila un naka-DIY? Sorry po sa tanong ko, gusto ko lang po kasi maliwanagan.

It is not wrong to express your thoughts. 🙂

But an observation is valid only for the cases that are observable to the observer. I say this because, there may be people who hired agents that do not post their timeline/grant in those FB groups at all. Same case here in the forum. This does not make the observation totally wrong, though.

I'm just saying it's not the entire picture. Nobody here can really say for sure if DIYers get faster grants than those with agents, unless there is an absolute case study done to collect substantial data to declare this.

Thanks for the reply sir. Siguro po kasi ang hirap maghintay ng wala ka nakikita. I mean yung nakikita mo un status ng application from time to time. You need to ask or confirm pa sa agent. Kaya napa-tanong po ako dito. Salamat ponule sir

Nasa Visa Application stage na ba kayo? Kung oo, baka naman pwede nyo hingin yung reference number para ma-import nyo sa personal ImmiAccount nyo yung application. At least, magkakaron kayo ng view sa nangyayari.

Waiting for invite palang po. Ah, pwede po pala yun ganyan.
Yes, pero sa visa stage na yan. Haha. Sa EOI stage and waiting of invite, wala ata talagang choice. You have to check with the agent regularly.
Unsolicited advice lang bro, wag ka mainip. 🙂
Darating yan sa hindi nyo inaasahang pagkakataon. Live your life. Dont stress out. Madaling sabihin but you have to try not to overthink.

@bartowski True! Once you get the grant, your life will change and 'di mo na ulit maeexperience yung present reality mo, at least not in the same exact way — so make the most of it 🙂

bartowski

@ispidprik said:
Yes true nakakainip dn talaga naka-agent dn kmi kaya i sort of know how it feels not to see the actual status and question myself if they did it right. But since many of my colleagues used the same agency and was handled by the same agents confident nman na ako na they know what they’re doing. So far satisfied nman ako sa service nila and they update me immediately once meron changes. Currently nka-lodge na kmi ng visa (189) awaiting medical. It has been almost 1yr since we submitted our eoi to this point.

Thank you sir for sharing your experience

RheaMARN1171933

@_sebodemacho said:

@bartowski said:
Sorry to bring this up but sa ilang FB groups, nakikita ko na parang mas mabilis kung naka-DIY vs may Agent. I know naman na every application is unique and it has its own timeline pero madalas ko lang po talaga mapansin na parang mas mabilis ang processing kapag DIY. Sa State na po kaya ito? Mas prefer po ba nila un naka-DIY? Sorry po sa tanong ko, gusto ko lang po kasi maliwanagan.
It is not wrong to express your thoughts. 🙂
But an observation is valid only for the cases that are observable to the observer. I say this because, there may be people who hired agents that do not post their timeline/grant in those FB groups at all. Same case here in the forum. This does not make the observation totally wrong, though.
I'm just saying it's not the entire picture. Nobody here can really say for sure if DIYers get faster grants than those with agents, unless there is an absolute case study done to collect substantial data to declare this.

I agree to this. It’s hard to draw a conclusion. I think more than anything else , main reason to focus on when deciding whether to DIY or agent is more to do with how confident you are in finding your way around. If you think you’re able to access the appropriate information you’ll need on your journey, then perhaps a DIY will do but if you want that peace of mind which you’ll only get from getting a professional to guide you, than hiring an agent is the way to go. Faster or slower, I don’t think it really matters as long as you do things right para hindi sayang yung investment.

RheaMARN1171933

@ispidprik said:
Yes true nakakainip dn talaga naka-agent dn kmi kaya i sort of know how it feels not to see the actual status and question myself if they did it right. But since many of my colleagues used the same agency and was handled by the same agents confident nman na ako na they know what they’re doing. So far satisfied nman ako sa service nila and they update me immediately once meron changes. Currently nka-lodge na kmi ng visa (189) awaiting medical. It has been almost 1yr since we submitted our eoi to this point.

I hear you….imagine from the perspective of the agent. How many of those clients na naiinip. The downside on our end is clients tend to set unrealistic expectations from us in the end. The journey can get intense but in the end, when we get to the finish line - visa grant, there is that sense of fulfilment form both sides that finally the visa has been granted. Clients in the end show their appreciation for the guidance we have provided. From our end, although things got intense along the way, it was nice to have been part of their journey one way or the other. We close the case knowing we’ve contributed something nice in someone’s life.

RheaMARN1171933

@_sebodemacho said:

@bartowski said:

@_sebodemacho said:

@bartowski said:
Sorry to bring this up but sa ilang FB groups, nakikita ko na parang mas mabilis kung naka-DIY vs may Agent. I know naman na every application is unique and it has its own timeline pero madalas ko lang po talaga mapansin na parang mas mabilis ang processing kapag DIY. Sa State na po kaya ito? Mas prefer po ba nila un naka-DIY? Sorry po sa tanong ko, gusto ko lang po kasi maliwanagan.

It is not wrong to express your thoughts. 🙂

But an observation is valid only for the cases that are observable to the observer. I say this because, there may be people who hired agents that do not post their timeline/grant in those FB groups at all. Same case here in the forum. This does not make the observation totally wrong, though.

I'm just saying it's not the entire picture. Nobody here can really say for sure if DIYers get faster grants than those with agents, unless there is an absolute case study done to collect substantial data to declare this.

Thanks for the reply sir. Siguro po kasi ang hirap maghintay ng wala ka nakikita. I mean yung nakikita mo un status ng application from time to time. You need to ask or confirm pa sa agent. Kaya napa-tanong po ako dito. Salamat ponule sir
Nasa Visa Application stage na ba kayo? Kung oo, baka naman pwede nyo hingin yung reference number para ma-import nyo sa personal ImmiAccount nyo yung application. At least, magkakaron kayo ng view sa nangyayari.

This isn’t possible I’m afraid. Once a client imports it, we lose access on the case. No agent will do this. Also, there is a clause in our service agreement (and pretty sure other agencies implement this as well) wherein the client agrees that we are the sole contact of all the authorities involved. We need to give consent if a client intends to contact them directly. Otherwise it may be a ground for termination for us. It’s important that there’s only one point of contact as it can complicate the case otherwise. As a matter of fact, I’ve just terminated our services today because of the breach on this clause.

ispidprik

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@ispidprik said:
Yes true nakakainip dn talaga naka-agent dn kmi kaya i sort of know how it feels not to see the actual status and question myself if they did it right. But since many of my colleagues used the same agency and was handled by the same agents confident nman na ako na they know what they’re doing. So far satisfied nman ako sa service nila and they update me immediately once meron changes. Currently nka-lodge na kmi ng visa (189) awaiting medical. It has been almost 1yr since we submitted our eoi to this point.
I hear you….imagine from the perspective of the agent. How many of those clients na naiinip. The downside on our end is clients tend to set unrealistic expectations from us in the end. The journey can get intense but in the end, when we get to the finish line - visa grant, there is that sense of fulfilment form both sides that finally the visa has been granted. Clients in the end show their appreciation for the guidance we have provided. From our end, although things got intense along the way, it was nice to have been part of their journey one way or the other. We close the case knowing we’ve contributed something nice in someone’s life.

Yes true that’s why i researched talaga before making this journey and set realistic expectations. I do understand dn what agents go through this process and im sure ndi lang ako client nila. For urgent matters ko lang sila mnmessage directly otherwise via email lahat.

RheaMARN1171933

@ispidprik said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@ispidprik said:
Yes true nakakainip dn talaga naka-agent dn kmi kaya i sort of know how it feels not to see the actual status and question myself if they did it right. But since many of my colleagues used the same agency and was handled by the same agents confident nman na ako na they know what they’re doing. So far satisfied nman ako sa service nila and they update me immediately once meron changes. Currently nka-lodge na kmi ng visa (189) awaiting medical. It has been almost 1yr since we submitted our eoi to this point.

I hear you….imagine from the perspective of the agent. How many of those clients na naiinip. The downside on our end is clients tend to set unrealistic expectations from us in the end. The journey can get intense but in the end, when we get to the finish line - visa grant, there is that sense of fulfilment form both sides that finally the visa has been granted. Clients in the end show their appreciation for the guidance we have provided. From our end, although things got intense along the way, it was nice to have been part of their journey one way or the other. We close the case knowing we’ve contributed something nice in someone’s life.
Yes true that’s why i researched talaga before making this journey and set realistic expectations. I do understand dn what agents go through this process and im sure ndi lang ako client nila. For urgent matters ko lang sila mnmessage directly otherwise via email lahat.

Ideal client! Hehe I hope you’re not one of those who emails the agent , tapos if you receive an out of office reply saying on leave yung agent and contacts for other colleagues were also provided on the auto reply….but still you then straight away message the agent on WhatsApp/viber? It really can get frustrating when clients behave this way. I mean on leave nga from work right? One of few examples where clients go out of line. I think bottom line, a bit consideration from clients as well. Some set unrealistic expectations thinking that because they pay an agent, they should work on the case 24/7. Just sharing this so clients also become mindful of certain behaviour when dealing with their agents. Just be professional and courteous 😊

By the way you don’t need to contact your agent pag urgent Lang. You should be able to email him/her for any questions and concerns because that’s why you hire one for but as you do that just be mindful (applies to everyone) that these agents are also human beings. Treat them like your colleague at work…we all need to be civilised…like yung example ko above. When a colleague is on leave, it’s inappropriate to send an sms to that colleague to chase up work - basic etiquette 🙂

_sebodemacho

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@_sebodemacho said:

@bartowski said:

@_sebodemacho said:

@bartowski said:
Sorry to bring this up but sa ilang FB groups, nakikita ko na parang mas mabilis kung naka-DIY vs may Agent. I know naman na every application is unique and it has its own timeline pero madalas ko lang po talaga mapansin na parang mas mabilis ang processing kapag DIY. Sa State na po kaya ito? Mas prefer po ba nila un naka-DIY? Sorry po sa tanong ko, gusto ko lang po kasi maliwanagan.

It is not wrong to express your thoughts. 🙂

But an observation is valid only for the cases that are observable to the observer. I say this because, there may be people who hired agents that do not post their timeline/grant in those FB groups at all. Same case here in the forum. This does not make the observation totally wrong, though.

I'm just saying it's not the entire picture. Nobody here can really say for sure if DIYers get faster grants than those with agents, unless there is an absolute case study done to collect substantial data to declare this.

Thanks for the reply sir. Siguro po kasi ang hirap maghintay ng wala ka nakikita. I mean yung nakikita mo un status ng application from time to time. You need to ask or confirm pa sa agent. Kaya napa-tanong po ako dito. Salamat ponule sir

Nasa Visa Application stage na ba kayo? Kung oo, baka naman pwede nyo hingin yung reference number para ma-import nyo sa personal ImmiAccount nyo yung application. At least, magkakaron kayo ng view sa nangyayari.
This isn’t possible I’m afraid. Once a client imports it, we lose access on the case. No agent will do this. Also, there is a clause in our service agreement (and pretty sure other agencies implement this as well) wherein the client agrees that we are the sole contact of all the authorities involved. We need to give consent if a client intends to contact them directly. Otherwise it may be a ground for termination for us. It’s important that there’s only one point of contact as it can complicate the case otherwise. As a matter of fact, I’ve just terminated our services today because of the breach on this clause.

Importing an application to another ImmiAccount is a system feature that does not automatically remove access of the originator of the application. Access loss/removal happens only when someone actually does so.

It is a matter of whether the agent/agency would provide the Ref Num and allow their clients to import the application into their personal account, isn't it? As you said if it's written in the contract that it's not allowed, then the client is forbidden.

I know this because I've read that people (in other online forums) did this because their agent allowed them, with no complication.

RheaMARN1171933

@_sebodemacho said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@_sebodemacho said:

@bartowski said:

@_sebodemacho said:

@bartowski said:
Sorry to bring this up but sa ilang FB groups, nakikita ko na parang mas mabilis kung naka-DIY vs may Agent. I know naman na every application is unique and it has its own timeline pero madalas ko lang po talaga mapansin na parang mas mabilis ang processing kapag DIY. Sa State na po kaya ito? Mas prefer po ba nila un naka-DIY? Sorry po sa tanong ko, gusto ko lang po kasi maliwanagan.

It is not wrong to express your thoughts. 🙂

But an observation is valid only for the cases that are observable to the observer. I say this because, there may be people who hired agents that do not post their timeline/grant in those FB groups at all. Same case here in the forum. This does not make the observation totally wrong, though.

I'm just saying it's not the entire picture. Nobody here can really say for sure if DIYers get faster grants than those with agents, unless there is an absolute case study done to collect substantial data to declare this.

Thanks for the reply sir. Siguro po kasi ang hirap maghintay ng wala ka nakikita. I mean yung nakikita mo un status ng application from time to time. You need to ask or confirm pa sa agent. Kaya napa-tanong po ako dito. Salamat ponule sir

Nasa Visa Application stage na ba kayo? Kung oo, baka naman pwede nyo hingin yung reference number para ma-import nyo sa personal ImmiAccount nyo yung application. At least, magkakaron kayo ng view sa nangyayari.

This isn’t possible I’m afraid. Once a client imports it, we lose access on the case. No agent will do this. Also, there is a clause in our service agreement (and pretty sure other agencies implement this as well) wherein the client agrees that we are the sole contact of all the authorities involved. We need to give consent if a client intends to contact them directly. Otherwise it may be a ground for termination for us. It’s important that there’s only one point of contact as it can complicate the case otherwise. As a matter of fact, I’ve just terminated our services today because of the breach on this clause.
Importing an application to another ImmiAccount is a system feature that does not automatically remove access of the originator of the application. Access loss/removal happens only when someone actually does so.
It is a matter of whether the agent/agency would provide the Ref Num and allow their clients to import the application into their personal account, isn't it? As you said if it's written in the contract that it's not allowed, then the client is forbidden.
I know this because I've read that people (in other online forums) did this because their agent allowed them, with no complication.

Hmm…I’m not sure because once it’s imported to theirs it disappears on our immiaccount. We do this process every now and then where we’ve ceased our services for a client ie partner visa (first stage). We provide them the TRN so they can continue their case in 2 years for the second stage.

An agent will allow such thing with caution. Letting the client import their case can be risky as it can give them the temptation to take matters in their own hands without liaising with the agent. It is important that the agent has the control to avoid complicating the case. Normally agents will only do this at the end of the services. A responsible agent won’t let this happen because if they the client something wrong with it, the agent will be responsible for it. Hence, this is a big NO for agents.

Not all we read in forums are accurate I’m afraid.

_sebodemacho

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@_sebodemacho said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@_sebodemacho said:

@bartowski said:

@_sebodemacho said:

@bartowski said:
Sorry to bring this up but sa ilang FB groups, nakikita ko na parang mas mabilis kung naka-DIY vs may Agent. I know naman na every application is unique and it has its own timeline pero madalas ko lang po talaga mapansin na parang mas mabilis ang processing kapag DIY. Sa State na po kaya ito? Mas prefer po ba nila un naka-DIY? Sorry po sa tanong ko, gusto ko lang po kasi maliwanagan.

It is not wrong to express your thoughts. 🙂

But an observation is valid only for the cases that are observable to the observer. I say this because, there may be people who hired agents that do not post their timeline/grant in those FB groups at all. Same case here in the forum. This does not make the observation totally wrong, though.

I'm just saying it's not the entire picture. Nobody here can really say for sure if DIYers get faster grants than those with agents, unless there is an absolute case study done to collect substantial data to declare this.

Thanks for the reply sir. Siguro po kasi ang hirap maghintay ng wala ka nakikita. I mean yung nakikita mo un status ng application from time to time. You need to ask or confirm pa sa agent. Kaya napa-tanong po ako dito. Salamat ponule sir

Nasa Visa Application stage na ba kayo? Kung oo, baka naman pwede nyo hingin yung reference number para ma-import nyo sa personal ImmiAccount nyo yung application. At least, magkakaron kayo ng view sa nangyayari.

This isn’t possible I’m afraid. Once a client imports it, we lose access on the case. No agent will do this. Also, there is a clause in our service agreement (and pretty sure other agencies implement this as well) wherein the client agrees that we are the sole contact of all the authorities involved. We need to give consent if a client intends to contact them directly. Otherwise it may be a ground for termination for us. It’s important that there’s only one point of contact as it can complicate the case otherwise. As a matter of fact, I’ve just terminated our services today because of the breach on this clause.

Importing an application to another ImmiAccount is a system feature that does not automatically remove access of the originator of the application. Access loss/removal happens only when someone actually does so.

It is a matter of whether the agent/agency would provide the Ref Num and allow their clients to import the application into their personal account, isn't it? As you said if it's written in the contract that it's not allowed, then the client is forbidden.

I know this because I've read that people (in other online forums) did this because their agent allowed them, with no complication.
Hmm…I’m not sure because once it’s imported to theirs it disappears on our immiaccount. We do this process every now and then where we’ve ceased our services for a client ie partner visa (first stage). We provide them the TRN so they can continue their case in 2 years for the second stage.
An agent will allow such thing with caution. Letting the client import their case can be risky as it can give them the temptation to take matters in their own hands without liaising with the agent. It is important that the agent has the control to avoid complicating the case. Normally agents will only do this at the end of the services. A responsible agent won’t let this happen because if they the client something wrong with it, the agent will be responsible for it. Hence, this is a big NO for agents.
Not all we read in forums are accurate I’m afraid.

That is true, though. I would agree. The import feature does not stop the client from updating the application like attaching new documents once it is imported. It must really be done with caution.

RheaMARN1171933

@_sebodemacho said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@_sebodemacho said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@_sebodemacho said:

@bartowski said:

@_sebodemacho said:

@bartowski said:
Sorry to bring this up but sa ilang FB groups, nakikita ko na parang mas mabilis kung naka-DIY vs may Agent. I know naman na every application is unique and it has its own timeline pero madalas ko lang po talaga mapansin na parang mas mabilis ang processing kapag DIY. Sa State na po kaya ito? Mas prefer po ba nila un naka-DIY? Sorry po sa tanong ko, gusto ko lang po kasi maliwanagan.

It is not wrong to express your thoughts. 🙂

But an observation is valid only for the cases that are observable to the observer. I say this because, there may be people who hired agents that do not post their timeline/grant in those FB groups at all. Same case here in the forum. This does not make the observation totally wrong, though.

I'm just saying it's not the entire picture. Nobody here can really say for sure if DIYers get faster grants than those with agents, unless there is an absolute case study done to collect substantial data to declare this.

Thanks for the reply sir. Siguro po kasi ang hirap maghintay ng wala ka nakikita. I mean yung nakikita mo un status ng application from time to time. You need to ask or confirm pa sa agent. Kaya napa-tanong po ako dito. Salamat ponule sir

Nasa Visa Application stage na ba kayo? Kung oo, baka naman pwede nyo hingin yung reference number para ma-import nyo sa personal ImmiAccount nyo yung application. At least, magkakaron kayo ng view sa nangyayari.

This isn’t possible I’m afraid. Once a client imports it, we lose access on the case. No agent will do this. Also, there is a clause in our service agreement (and pretty sure other agencies implement this as well) wherein the client agrees that we are the sole contact of all the authorities involved. We need to give consent if a client intends to contact them directly. Otherwise it may be a ground for termination for us. It’s important that there’s only one point of contact as it can complicate the case otherwise. As a matter of fact, I’ve just terminated our services today because of the breach on this clause.

Importing an application to another ImmiAccount is a system feature that does not automatically remove access of the originator of the application. Access loss/removal happens only when someone actually does so.

It is a matter of whether the agent/agency would provide the Ref Num and allow their clients to import the application into their personal account, isn't it? As you said if it's written in the contract that it's not allowed, then the client is forbidden.

I know this because I've read that people (in other online forums) did this because their agent allowed them, with no complication.

Hmm…I’m not sure because once it’s imported to theirs it disappears on our immiaccount. We do this process every now and then where we’ve ceased our services for a client ie partner visa (first stage). We provide them the TRN so they can continue their case in 2 years for the second stage.

An agent will allow such thing with caution. Letting the client import their case can be risky as it can give them the temptation to take matters in their own hands without liaising with the agent. It is important that the agent has the control to avoid complicating the case. Normally agents will only do this at the end of the services. A responsible agent won’t let this happen because if they the client something wrong with it, the agent will be responsible for it. Hence, this is a big NO for agents.

Not all we read in forums are accurate I’m afraid.
That is true, though. I would agree. The import feature does not stop the client from updating the application like attaching new documents once it is imported. It must really be done with caution.

Yes…that’s why it isn’t a good practice for us agents to allow such things. It’s more if you want access then we cease the case - simple. Two cooks can destroy the broth 😉

xiaolico

@_sebodemacho said:

@bartowski said:
Sorry to bring this up but sa ilang FB groups, nakikita ko na parang mas mabilis kung naka-DIY vs may Agent. I know naman na every application is unique and it has its own timeline pero madalas ko lang po talaga mapansin na parang mas mabilis ang processing kapag DIY. Sa State na po kaya ito? Mas prefer po ba nila un naka-DIY? Sorry po sa tanong ko, gusto ko lang po kasi maliwanagan.
It is not wrong to express your thoughts. 🙂
But an observation is valid only for the cases that are observable to the observer. I say this because, there may be people who hired agents that do not post their timeline/grant in those FB groups at all. Same case here in the forum. This does not make the observation totally wrong, though.
I'm just saying it's not the entire picture. Nobody here can really say for sure if DIYers get faster grants than those with agents, unless there is an absolute case study done to collect substantial data to declare this.

Agree ako dito. I think madami sa naka agent kasi hindi active sa mga forums na parang ganito. Marami nga ata hindi alam na may ganitong forums or fb groups. But of course, it is always okay to come to a conclusion. Make sure lang na you have as much data as possible. Yung mga na-grant na DIY, ilan points ba sila and anong field sila compared sa mga hindi pa nagragrant na mga naka agent. If nakita mo na mas madami talaga mas mabilis na grant na DIY, then medyo you did your part naman na. You tried to be as accurate as possible and you can draw a conclusion for yourself na baka better to cancel the agent? Pero me personally, I disagree with this. But kanya kanya tayo ng diskarte at research syempre. And to end lang, nasa DOHA site din na ethically, if you need help, agent lang puwede tumulong sa yo and not yung mga forums like this or fb groups. I wish you all the best. Do what's best for you or at least what you think is best for you.

jcrdream

@bartowski said:
Sorry to bring this up but sa ilang FB groups, nakikita ko na parang mas mabilis kung naka-DIY vs may Agent. I know naman na every application is unique and it has its own timeline pero madalas ko lang po talaga mapansin na parang mas mabilis ang processing kapag DIY. Sa State na po kaya ito? Mas prefer po ba nila un naka-DIY? Sorry po sa tanong ko, gusto ko lang po kasi maliwanagan.

Hi sir, same thoughts. May kasabayan ako sa application, naka-agent ako and DIY sya, pero parang mas mabilis pa sa kanya. Actually nauna ako sa pag-pa assess pero matagal pa sakin. Pero gaya ng sabi ng iba not all naman nagpo-post. Medyo frustrated na rin ako sa pag-engage ng agent kasi mas natatagalan -- although gets ko naman na yun ay to make sure na tama ang ginagawa. Pero sa akin, yung pagsubmit ng mga documents na-delay kasi natyempuhan ng leave ng agent nang mga 1 month tapos need pa ng approval nya (another 1/2 weeks) bago masubmit.

Siguro yun na lang din ang tradeoff -- you are surrendering control of your application to someone else, so your application moves not only according to immigration timeline/policies, but also your agent's. Again, nothing against agents, this is not an attack on them kasi I respect what they do and their expertise plus I am critiquing the situation not the agent, baka lang maka-elicit ng negative reactions hehe. Pero that's just my experience. 🙂

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