Honest Mistake in Visa Application

chemron9400

@bellevet said:

@chemron9400 said:

@bellevet said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:
Whether you tell them or not, they will still find out unfortunately.

If you were in my shoes po, what would you do?

i have a question po, paano na overclaim po na sa vetassess assessment outcome may nakalagay naman na "number of years assessed positively."
Sa education qualification po ung na-overclaim na points. ACS po ung assessing body. Nakalagay sa result was Diploma but I claimed bachelor's kasi I had bachelor's degree naman talaga. It didn't occur to me that Diploma is not the same as Bachelor's.

ohhh okay po 🙁 wala na ba ibang way na magiging bachelors degree and diploma na previous result? iKung wala na i think u really need to withdraw kasi medyo mahirap sya e justify ang na overclaim na points.

bellevet

@chemron9400 said:

@bellevet said:

@chemron9400 said:

@bellevet said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:
Whether you tell them or not, they will still find out unfortunately.

If you were in my shoes po, what would you do?

i have a question po, paano na overclaim po na sa vetassess assessment outcome may nakalagay naman na "number of years assessed positively."

Sa education qualification po ung na-overclaim na points. ACS po ung assessing body. Nakalagay sa result was Diploma but I claimed bachelor's kasi I had bachelor's degree naman talaga. It didn't occur to me that Diploma is not the same as Bachelor's.
ohhh okay po 🙁 wala na ba ibang way na magiging bachelors degree and diploma na previous result? iKung wala na i think u really need to withdraw kasi medyo mahirap sya e justify ang na overclaim na points.

Not sure kasi ung uni ko is Section 3. Another option I'm thinking of is to declare additional work experiences. Currently kasi ung assessed sakin is ung for 3-5 years. If I declare ung latest experience ko which was not covered sa skills assessment, papasok sya sa 5-8 years na experience. Possible kaya to offset ung overclaimed points from there?

chemron9400

@bellevet said:

@chemron9400 said:

@bellevet said:

@chemron9400 said:

@bellevet said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:
Whether you tell them or not, they will still find out unfortunately.

If you were in my shoes po, what would you do?

i have a question po, paano na overclaim po na sa vetassess assessment outcome may nakalagay naman na "number of years assessed positively."

Sa education qualification po ung na-overclaim na points. ACS po ung assessing body. Nakalagay sa result was Diploma but I claimed bachelor's kasi I had bachelor's degree naman talaga. It didn't occur to me that Diploma is not the same as Bachelor's.

ohhh okay po 🙁 wala na ba ibang way na magiging bachelors degree and diploma na previous result? iKung wala na i think u really need to withdraw kasi medyo mahirap sya e justify ang na overclaim na points.
Not sure kasi ung uni ko is Section 3. Another option I'm thinking of is to declare additional work experiences. Currently kasi ung assessed sakin is ung for 3-5 years. If I declare ung latest experience ko which was not covered sa skills assessment, papasok sya sa 5-8 years na experience. Possible kaya to offset ung overclaimed points from there?

may mga school kc na nasa section 2 or 3 pero kung may PRC license ay equivalent na agad sa Bachelors. Im not sure sa ACS pero sa Vetassess kc ganun. I dont think pwede kunin ang na overclaim points sa ibang factor like experience kasi ina assess ata ng CO per criteria but im not really sure maybe ask a good migration agent kasi ang naisip ko lang is baka pwede ka magpa assess ulit and provide more evidence na ung bachelors degree mo sa pinas is same sa Aus..

bellevet

Hi all. If anyone has a recommended migration agent, please drop the info in this thread. Thank you thank you so much po!!

bellevet

@chemron9400 said:

@bellevet said:

@chemron9400 said:

@bellevet said:

@chemron9400 said:

@bellevet said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:
Whether you tell them or not, they will still find out unfortunately.

If you were in my shoes po, what would you do?

i have a question po, paano na overclaim po na sa vetassess assessment outcome may nakalagay naman na "number of years assessed positively."

Sa education qualification po ung na-overclaim na points. ACS po ung assessing body. Nakalagay sa result was Diploma but I claimed bachelor's kasi I had bachelor's degree naman talaga. It didn't occur to me that Diploma is not the same as Bachelor's.

ohhh okay po 🙁 wala na ba ibang way na magiging bachelors degree and diploma na previous result? iKung wala na i think u really need to withdraw kasi medyo mahirap sya e justify ang na overclaim na points.

Not sure kasi ung uni ko is Section 3. Another option I'm thinking of is to declare additional work experiences. Currently kasi ung assessed sakin is ung for 3-5 years. If I declare ung latest experience ko which was not covered sa skills assessment, papasok sya sa 5-8 years na experience. Possible kaya to offset ung overclaimed points from there?
may mga school kc na nasa section 2 or 3 pero kung may PRC license ay equivalent na agad sa Bachelors. Im not sure sa ACS pero sa Vetassess kc ganun. I dont think pwede kunin ang na overclaim points sa ibang factor like experience kasi ina assess ata ng CO per criteria but im not really sure maybe ask a good migration agent kasi ang naisip ko lang is baka pwede ka magpa assess ulit and provide more evidence na ung bachelors degree mo sa pinas is same sa Aus..

Wala pong PRC sa computer society e. I can also try to check if possible na maging bachelor sya on grounds of Latin honors. Not sure if may relevance. I'm just panicking, overwhelemed and feeling so lost this time.

ubehalaya

Hi @bellevet! I have a friend na may kakilalang nakapag-overclaim din ng points, sa Australian Study naman.

Take note na when the time na nalaman nya yung mistake nya ay umaction agad sya.

Yes, try to contact immigration lawyer na makakahelp sayo.

Heto yung comment ng CO nya giving her a chance pa.

ubehalaya

*migration lawyer

chemron9400

@ubehalaya said:
Hi @bellevet! I have a friend na may kakilalang nakapag-overclaim din ng points, sa Australian Study naman.
Take note na when the time na nalaman nya yung mistake nya ay umaction agad sya.
Yes, try to contact immigration lawyer na makakahelp sayo.
Heto yung comment ng CO nya giving her a chance pa.
in this case, maybe a good chance to increase ur work experience para ma compensate ang na overclaimed sa education qualification.

tigerlance

@bellevet said:
Hi all. If anyone has a recommended migration agent, please drop the info in this thread. Thank you thank you so much po!!

Pag maginquire ka sa migration agent ibigay mo yung possible scenarios.

like kung magpaaccess ka ulit then tumaas ang points mo... Kaso yung points at the time of invite......

Nung at the time of invite ba, magincrease ba yung points mo sa experience.

Ask sa migration agent/lawyer yung mga possible scenarios. At least triny mo and masagot yung mga what if mo.

a) Pwede ka umappeal sa ACS na from Diploma, magiging Bachelor

b) Reassess ulit, para pasok ang points mo, syempre si agent na makikiusap sa ACS kung pwede ifast track. Ang mga agents may mga terms na ginagamit sa letter, na siyempre may basis silang icite para maipanalo ang case mo. Pero kung wala talaga maicite, siyempre papayuhan ka na iwithdraw na ang application mo.

Basta registered MARN agent, May kanya kanya sila immigration barrister ang mga yan.

era222

@ubehalaya said:
Hi @bellevet! I have a friend na may kakilalang nakapag-overclaim din ng points, sa Australian Study naman.
Take note na when the time na nalaman nya yung mistake nya ay umaction agad sya.
Yes, try to contact immigration lawyer na makakahelp sayo.
Heto yung comment ng CO nya giving her a chance pa.
Ano outcome ng kanya, do you know?

@bellevet said:

@chemron9400 said:

@bellevet said:

@chemron9400 said:

@bellevet said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:
Whether you tell them or not, they will still find out unfortunately.

If you were in my shoes po, what would you do?

i have a question po, paano na overclaim po na sa vetassess assessment outcome may nakalagay naman na "number of years assessed positively."

Sa education qualification po ung na-overclaim na points. ACS po ung assessing body. Nakalagay sa result was Diploma but I claimed bachelor's kasi I had bachelor's degree naman talaga. It didn't occur to me that Diploma is not the same as Bachelor's.

ohhh okay po 🙁 wala na ba ibang way na magiging bachelors degree and diploma na previous result? iKung wala na i think u really need to withdraw kasi medyo mahirap sya e justify ang na overclaim na points.
Not sure kasi ung uni ko is Section 3. Another option I'm thinking of is to declare additional work experiences. Currently kasi ung assessed sakin is ung for 3-5 years. If I declare ung latest experience ko which was not covered sa skills assessment, papasok sya sa 5-8 years na experience. Possible kaya to offset ung overclaimed points from there?

Get an agent to advise whether you should go for another skills assessment or declare mo na lang, if gusto mo ipush. Disclose mo agad situation mo, what you know, and what you want to happen, as some agents might just opt that you withdraw—that way you filter out your options agad and find one who will want to fight for it with you. Try https://www.australiavisa.com/who-we-are/ Have not tried them myself but Karl Konrad is well-publicised and I always see him being vocal about (and challenging) the system and championing applicants, at least sa videos nya.

ubehalaya

@era222 said:

@ubehalaya said:
Hi @bellevet! I have a friend na may kakilalang nakapag-overclaim din ng points, sa Australian Study naman.
Take note na when the time na nalaman nya yung mistake nya ay umaction agad sya.
Yes, try to contact immigration lawyer na makakahelp sayo.
Heto yung comment ng CO nya giving her a chance pa.

Ano outcome ng kanya, do you know?

sadly, in the end refused din sya kasi she was not able to produce the additional 5 points to meet the points test as per the invitation letter.

bellevet

Thank you so much everyone for all the encouragement and tips. I have contacted na a number of migration agencies. Wala pa response since weekend ngayon. Hopefully by Monday meron na. I will make sure to update this thread how things go so others on the same boat may also be guided.

bellevet

@ubehalaya said:
Hi @bellevet! I have a friend na may kakilalang nakapag-overclaim din ng points, sa Australian Study naman.
Take note na when the time na nalaman nya yung mistake nya ay umaction agad sya.
Yes, try to contact immigration lawyer na makakahelp sayo.
Heto yung comment ng CO nya giving her a chance pa.
Hi!! Thank you!! Such a relief to know that your friend was notified and was given a chance to offset the points from a different category. Yun ung pinaka worry ko actually, na baka direcho refusal pag may nakitang discrepancy. Happy to know that the COs may actually contact us pala talaga and give chances. I'm feeling hopeful about this.

bellevet

@tigerlance said:

@bellevet said:
Hi all. If anyone has a recommended migration agent, please drop the info in this thread. Thank you thank you so much po!!
Pag maginquire ka sa migration agent ibigay mo yung possible scenarios.
like kung magpaaccess ka ulit then tumaas ang points mo... Kaso yung points at the time of invite......
Nung at the time of invite ba, magincrease ba yung points mo sa experience.
Ask sa migration agent/lawyer yung mga possible scenarios. At least triny mo and masagot yung mga what if mo.
a) Pwede ka umappeal sa ACS na from Diploma, magiging Bachelor
b) Reassess ulit, para pasok ang points mo, syempre si agent na makikiusap sa ACS kung pwede ifast track. Ang mga agents may mga terms na ginagamit sa letter, na siyempre may basis silang icite para maipanalo ang case mo. Pero kung wala talaga maicite, siyempre papayuhan ka na iwithdraw na ang application mo.
Basta registered MARN agent, May kanya kanya sila immigration barrister ang mga yan.
Noted po sir. So far lahat ng migration offices na kinontact ko puro MARA. Pumipili din po ako ng lawyer nila na Filipino with hopes na baka mas ilaban nila for me dahil kapwa Pinoy. Sana, sana po talaga maging successful. Thank you po!!

bellevet

@chemron9400 said:

@ubehalaya said:
Hi @bellevet! I have a friend na may kakilalang nakapag-overclaim din ng points, sa Australian Study naman.
Take note na when the time na nalaman nya yung mistake nya ay umaction agad sya.
Yes, try to contact immigration lawyer na makakahelp sayo.
Heto yung comment ng CO nya giving her a chance pa.

in this case, maybe a good chance to increase ur work experience para ma compensate ang na overclaimed sa education qualification.
Yes po. May 1 yr+ of other related experience pa po ako na hindi assessed ng ACS. Ito po ung current job ko.

During the time kasi na nagpa-assess ako sa ACS, kakalipat ko lang sa company na to. So wala pa ko ITR here that time and payslip parang 1 month pa lang noon.

Now naka 1yr+ na ko dito. May ITR na din ako from last year and payslips as payment evidences na required ng ACS.

I'm super hopeful na positive assessment to. And if it is, makakatawid ako from 3-5 years to 5-8 years na bracket. So dagdag points to.

bellevet

@ubehalaya said:
Hi @bellevet! I have a friend na may kakilalang nakapag-overclaim din ng points, sa Australian Study naman.
Take note na when the time na nalaman nya yung mistake nya ay umaction agad sya.
Yes, try to contact immigration lawyer na makakahelp sayo.
Heto yung comment ng CO nya giving her a chance pa.
Would you have an idea po mga around what year po kaya to nangyari?

ubehalaya

@bellevet said:

@ubehalaya said:
Hi @bellevet! I have a friend na may kakilalang nakapag-overclaim din ng points, sa Australian Study naman.
Take note na when the time na nalaman nya yung mistake nya ay umaction agad sya.
Yes, try to contact immigration lawyer na makakahelp sayo.
Heto yung comment ng CO nya giving her a chance pa.

Would you have an idea po mga around what year po kaya to nangyari?

October 2022 lang po ito.

Please note po nakapagpasa na sya ng stat declaration and incorrect information statement bago pa sya macontact ng CO.

Hoping may makatulong sainyo (anlaki din nung visa fee for 4person 🙁 )

chemron9400

@bellevet said:

@chemron9400 said:

@ubehalaya said:
Hi @bellevet! I have a friend na may kakilalang nakapag-overclaim din ng points, sa Australian Study naman.
Take note na when the time na nalaman nya yung mistake nya ay umaction agad sya.
Yes, try to contact immigration lawyer na makakahelp sayo.
Heto yung comment ng CO nya giving her a chance pa.

in this case, maybe a good chance to increase ur work experience para ma compensate ang na overclaimed sa education qualification.

Yes po. May 1 yr+ of other related experience pa po ako na hindi assessed ng ACS. Ito po ung current job ko.
During the time kasi na nagpa-assess ako sa ACS, kakalipat ko lang sa company na to. So wala pa ko ITR here that time and payslip parang 1 month pa lang noon.
Now naka 1yr+ na ko dito. May ITR na din ako from last year and payslips as payment evidences na required ng ACS.
I'm super hopeful na positive assessment to. And if it is, makakatawid ako from 3-5 years to 5-8 years na bracket. So dagdag points to.

I think ipa assess mo na ulit with updated work exp then maybe convince or maybe theres a way na e honor ang bachelors degree mo sa pinas as comparable sa au bachelors degree. Then submit statutory dec for honest mistake and submit the form for incorrect info statement para at least mas clear sa CO 😊 i hope maging ok po 🙏🏻🙏🏻 laban lang kayang kaya yan 😊

RheaMARN1171933

@bellevet said:
Hi all. If anyone has a recommended migration agent, please drop the info in this thread. Thank you thank you so much po!!

You’ve reached out to me on LinkedIn…I read your post re work experience, might be your saving grace but can’t tell for sure until I see documents. Email me rhea@visaconsort.com and I’ll ask my colleague to squeeze you in for an appointment via zoom ASAP. I’ll be flying to Sydney soon so schedule is tight my end.

RheaMARN1171933

Just sharing this post 👆 I made on LinkedIn weeks back as might be relevant to most here….

Honest mistake can be very costly. Might make sense to get your documents checked before it’s too late.

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