Australian Computer Society Skills Application

guenb

@sputnik Pwede din other colleague mo mg declare, as long as mas mataas yung position sayu

wingleaf

@all eto rin problem ko same with sputnik, though 8 months lang sya at 1st job ko at project clerk ang position ko as contractual pero IT helpdesk ang ginagawa ko sa company and ang kaya lang bigay ni company is ung standard COE na indi detailed, papa statutory sana ako kaso indi ko na makita ung payslip ko. kayo ba ano ma susugest nyo? nanghihinayang kasi ako sa 8 months baka kasi pasok eh. Thanks guys

thisisme1

thanks @Xiaomau82!

@kendz_shelou ACS format ng COE? san makikita yun? pano kung di ganun? hirap kasi magspecial request ng format lalo na kung previous company eh..

@tiggeroo good point! haha baka nga pareho tayo? san makikita ang ideal COE format?

another question, makakatulong ba na isama ang mga training certificates na related sa work? Example: SAP training, Java training, SQL training and the like

Thanks!

tiggeroo

@thisisme1 you can find the COE format here:

http://acs.org.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0019/7570/Skilled-Employment-Reference-Example.pdf

You can check out the ACS website FAQs, makikita mo doon ung mga checklists and other documents.

Hmmm if I remember correctly, halos walang upload type for trainings lang, ang meron lang ay certifications and may list lang din sila of recognized certifications (like Cisco and Microsoft). You can try to make an account, para makita mo ano pwede mo i-upload.

ej123456

@kittykitkat18

Thanks po sa reply 🙂

May iba pa ako tanong sana mabigyan mo din ng kasagutan 🙂

Paanu po ba diskarte sa pagpapagawa ng Employment reference?

1st Job, ang job title ay "Design Engineer" which is wala naman equivalent sa kanila.

2nd Job, ang job title ay "Sofware Engineer" which is meron naman equivalent sa kanila.

Current Job, ang job title ay "Software Developer" which is meron din naman.

Pag gumawa ba ng employment reference, ang ilalagay mo ba mismo yung ANZSCO code na innominate mo/ pipiliin mo kahit hindi yun ang talagang job title mo sa work experience?

Example pinili ko software engineer, kaso iba iba job title ko sa mga work experience ko.

Paano po ba gagawin pag ganito?

yung nasa sample nila :

"Mr Bob was employed on a full time basis as a [Software Engineer] at the following locations:

kittykitkat18

@ej123456 kng ano ung position mo sa company yan tlga lalagay mo.as long as similar sya sa duties sa acs.kasi kay hubby ganyan din

Company 1 - sr systems engr

Company - service delivery consultant II

Company - senior associate

Khit iba job title ni hubby pro duties and responsibilities nya pasok sa nominated occupation nya..ok na un

ej123456

@kittykitkat18

Hello,

Thanks Again. 🙂

Kung hindi pasok yung roles at duties ng work experience mo sa pinili mong code, let's say software engineer ang pinili mo then yung work experience mo QA ang roles, kelangan mo pa din ba syang ipa-assess or hindi na kelangan?

sample:

ANZSCODE Code choice : Software Engineer

1st Job - Design Engineer ( mostly QA roles )

2nd Job - Software Engineer (software development roles)

Current Job - Software Developer (software development roles)

kittykitkat18

@ej123456 i think kng ano nominated occupation versus dun sa work experience mo ang ma count is ung closely related like company 2 and 3. Pra sa akin ok lng na ilagay company 1.similar situation si hubby na ganyan sa 1st company.. ang assessment is Not enough ICT content. Bale company 2 assessed sya as related sa nominated occupation tpos deduct pa ng 2 yrs.hndi lng na count si company 1 ni hubby pro sinama ko sa assessment

sputnik

@guenb thanks sa reply. kaso ung dalawa kong boss di pumayag to sign. is there another way? pwede ba yung magdeclare is same position kami?

kung iassess ko naman for last 3 jobs ko may almost 6yrs exp na naman ako.

pero may isa pa akong dilemma kasi ung first job ko na 8months ata nung 2009 pa small company, is ang panget ng exit ko. naghahanap ako sa website nila or online na pwedeng tawagan or iemail pero wala akong makita at address lang mismo ng company ung nakalagay. pwede ba ko mag pa statutory declaration sa dati kong ka-team mate noon pero pati sya di na din ang work dun?

kendz_shelou

@thisisme1 Cisco and Microsoft Certifications ang inaaccept nila.

atonibay

Hello po... bago lang ako d2 sa forum but been reading some stuffs about AU. I have a question regarding sa Computer network and systems engineer (263111). Kailangan paba kukuha ng CCNA certification pra pangdagdag points?... Paano kung yung CoE sa previous company mo ay generic lang? mga 4 years kasi ako sa technical support na may kunting network+server support and administration. Pero current work ko ay ICT officer going to 5 years na. Sana merong mkapag advice sakn bago ako mag submit ng assessment sa ACS.

kittykitkat18

@atonibay certifications like microsoft and cisco assessed as AQF diploma..mas important tertiary education.pro sinama ko din sa ACS ung mga certification ni hubby.

Kailangan po detailed ing coe ng duties and responsibilities mo.pag ayaw ni hr..statutory declaration signed by ur immediate supervisor/manager

ICT officer..more on support ka ba ng systems or network? Dpat ung work me closely related dyan sa nominated occupation mo.kasi si ACS may deduction pa ng 2, 4, 5 or 6 yrs. Kng d nmn closely related ang assessment, i think nagbibigay ng recommendation si ACS pro may bayad ulit ng certain fee

tiggeroo

@ej123456 I suggest you include all of your work experience, if you read the ANZCO code job descriptions closely, konti lang ang differences from each one, kahit as software engineer meron doon duty to do testing, so may possibility na ACS can assess your design engg work as software engineer. Besides may "engineer" padin naman sa titles mo, which is consistent. Hayaan mo si ACS ang mag-assess -- don't leave anything out because you will need all the work experience years you can get especially that ACS deducts years from your work exp for the skill requirement.

jaceejoef

Hello, hihingi po ako ng tulong kung ano ba talagang ANZSCO occupation ang pipilin ko.

Software Engineer (261313) or Developer Programmer (261312)

here's my previous and current work:

PHP Developer - 1 year 2 months - web development using Joomla and Moodle
SCSM Developer - 6 months - SCSM development using C#.NET (for sure hindi na to pasok)
Software Engineer - 3 years this Feb - telecommunication software tools using various frontend and backend technologies

I'm leaning towards Software Engineer pero hindi pa sure.

kayenzky

Hi, question for anyone. I was assessed before ng ACS with AQF Diploma major in computing. I'm planning to submit my reassessment this year, possible ba na magchange pa yan? Like for example maging bachelor's degree? Also, may impact pa din ba ang school when it comes to this? Mine not being a university, thanks in advance!

tiggeroo

Hi @jaceejoef, in terms of the occupational ceilings, both are under 2613XX and share the same ceiling/quota. Do you have your COEs already? It will depend ano sinulat ng employers mo doon hehe coz sometimes they just put in generic stuff

jaceejoef

@tiggeroo meron na po akong COE except for the current job though, yun nga, generic COEs lang. Follow up ko sila this week for the detailed COEs.

Nabasa ko din sa ibang forum na ang pinagkaiba ng Developer Programmer and Software Engineer is just about the design phase. Kung nagdedesign ka Software Engineer, otherwise Developer Programmer.

I'm not sure yet, ang "dapat" kasi hindi kami magdedesign sa current work ko pero since hindi naman talaga nasusunod yun, our counterparts let us design sometimes.

Xiaomau82

<blockquote rel="kayenzky">Hi, question for anyone. I was assessed before ng ACS with AQF Diploma major in computing. I'm planning to submit my reassessment this year, possible ba na magchange pa yan? Like for example maging bachelor's degree? Also, may impact pa din ba ang school when it comes to this? Mine not being a university, thanks in advance!</blockquote>

From which school po ba? There is a high risk na indi na mabago assessment sa school mo. If you were assessed to have an a degree equivalent to an AQF Diploma, that means, you can only claim 10 points for educational qualification.

kayenzky

@Xiaomau82 De La Salle Lipa 😃 Yeah, that's what I was thinking rin. 10 pts lang for educational qualification. Babawi na lang ule sa english exam.

atonibay

<blockquote rel="kittykitkat18">@atonibay certifications like microsoft and cisco assessed as AQF diploma..mas important tertiary education.pro sinama ko din sa ACS ung mga certification ni hubby.

Kailangan po detailed ing coe ng duties and responsibilities mo.pag ayaw ni hr..statutory declaration signed by ur immediate supervisor/manager

Mix of support sa sytem (AD, Exchange 2013 and windows server) at merong kunting networking. Yung 4 years technical support na experience ko mix of networking din. I hope papayag yung hr namin kung sakali man.

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