Australian Computer Society Skills Application

yohji

@emil1125 said:

@lolenz said:

@mandark_d_gray said:

@lolenz said:
hello po, i would like to ask, hindi po ba ma conflict if ang position naka indicate sa payslip ay iba sa actual position? baka hindi po kasi ma honored.. example, sa payslip naka lagay IT Specialist lang pero in reality IT Systems Analyst pala po.. ano po pwede gawin?

Marami po ganyan situation. Mas importante ang job function and responsibilities compared sa job title. kaya you need to prove it via COE and/or statutory declaration. yung payslip is for payment evidence purposes na employed ka ng employer mo during the stated period.

THank you po sa clarification. God Bless po!
Yes> @itsmegianina said:
@emil1125 hello po .. question lang po , kakareply lang po sakin ng acs sa skills assessment 2 days ago.. my work experiences in PH has not been counted due to ‘insufficient payment evidence”. Nakapagsubmit po ako ng SSS contibution document na may name ng companies and payslip but not covered the beginning and end of each year. Siguro 2 payslips lang tapos mid of year pa. Ung sa 2316 po ba may way na marequest from BIR? May idea po ba kayo? Ekis na kasi yung bank statement since close na ung payroll account ko from previous employers tapos 4-5 years ago pa. May maiaadvise po ba kayo? Thanks po
Regarding po sa tanong niyo, In my case (2008 and 2009) the document I provided with ACS for the said year was SSS document only and for the succeeding year random payslip per year ang binigay ko sa kanila (example: 2010 - April and December Payslip or 2011 June and November payslip) basta dalawang payslip per year.
About po sa BIR nagtry ako magtanong sa kanila (para sa previous employer) pero ang sabi nila sakin ay employer dapat po ang magbigay ng ITR kaya ang ginmawa ko, kung anong available na meron ako na payment of evidences nilaban ko na and naging okay naman lahat. Baka po kasi minsan nagkakatalo siya sa assessor kung sobrang strict ung mapunta sayo.
Yan po ung information ang meron ako.
Anyone can help @itsmegianina about her quiry po? baka po may meron kayong alam na ibang way. Thank you!
Hello po. Natry nyo na po ang Pag-ibig? Yun po ang ginamit ko po aside sa Payslip. You can access it po via VirtualPagibig website (Process po is Create Account then need magpaactivate sa Pagibig branch). Pag OFW po, alam ko po may ibang process siya since physically hindi makakapunta for activation sa branch.

Piper003

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@Piper003 said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@lolenz said:
hello po, i would like to ask, hindi po ba ma conflict if ang position naka indicate sa payslip ay iba sa actual position? baka hindi po kasi ma honored.. example, sa payslip naka lagay IT Specialist lang pero in reality IT Systems Analyst pala po.. ano po pwede gawin?

Always > @Piper003 said:

Hi meron po ba dito nag Appeal at nagtagumpay? Pashare naman po ng success stories niyo. :smiley:

Balak ko kasi mag appeal dahil 'non_ICT' daw ang role ko pero ICT talaga siya i just made a terrible mistake on my first assessment hindi ako nakaprovide ng detailed na Statutory Declaration at naisama ko yung call centre job ko (kahit di ko naman pinapaassess yun).
Salamat!

You would need to re-apply once again I’m afraid. Appeal would only work if you want to challenge the decision because you think they made a mistake with their assessment. You can’t add further documents when you appeal.

@RheaMARN1171933 Twice na po ako nagpaassess and sa 2nd time po detailed na ang statutory declaration na pnrovide ko as per feedback po ng case officer. Pero nanegative assessment parin ako.

I undertand po na hindi pwde mag add ng further documents pag mag appeal pero pwde po ba mag attach ng document explaining why i'm appealing? Salamat Po!
Isn’t it the same?

Sorry ang alin po ang tinutukoy niyo na 'the same' Miss @RheaMARN1171933 ? :smiley:

Nabasa ko na po sa ACS guidelines na pag nag appeal kailangan magsubmit ng detailed explanation.

Salamat po!

emil1125

@yohji said:

@emil1125 said:

@lolenz said:

@mandark_d_gray said:

@lolenz said:
hello po, i would like to ask, hindi po ba ma conflict if ang position naka indicate sa payslip ay iba sa actual position? baka hindi po kasi ma honored.. example, sa payslip naka lagay IT Specialist lang pero in reality IT Systems Analyst pala po.. ano po pwede gawin?

Marami po ganyan situation. Mas importante ang job function and responsibilities compared sa job title. kaya you need to prove it via COE and/or statutory declaration. yung payslip is for payment evidence purposes na employed ka ng employer mo during the stated period.

THank you po sa clarification. God Bless po!

Yes> @itsmegianina said:

@emil1125 hello po .. question lang po , kakareply lang po sakin ng acs sa skills assessment 2 days ago.. my work experiences in PH has not been counted due to ‘insufficient payment evidence”. Nakapagsubmit po ako ng SSS contibution document na may name ng companies and payslip but not covered the beginning and end of each year. Siguro 2 payslips lang tapos mid of year pa. Ung sa 2316 po ba may way na marequest from BIR? May idea po ba kayo? Ekis na kasi yung bank statement since close na ung payroll account ko from previous employers tapos 4-5 years ago pa. May maiaadvise po ba kayo? Thanks po

Regarding po sa tanong niyo, In my case (2008 and 2009) the document I provided with ACS for the said year was SSS document only and for the succeeding year random payslip per year ang binigay ko sa kanila (example: 2010 - April and December Payslip or 2011 June and November payslip) basta dalawang payslip per year.

About po sa BIR nagtry ako magtanong sa kanila (para sa previous employer) pero ang sabi nila sakin ay employer dapat po ang magbigay ng ITR kaya ang ginmawa ko, kung anong available na meron ako na payment of evidences nilaban ko na and naging okay naman lahat. Baka po kasi minsan nagkakatalo siya sa assessor kung sobrang strict ung mapunta sayo.

Yan po ung information ang meron ako.
Anyone can help @itsmegianina about her quiry po? baka po may meron kayong alam na ibang way. Thank you!

Hello po. Natry nyo na po ang Pag-ibig? Yun po ang ginamit ko po aside sa Payslip. You can access it po via VirtualPagibig website (Process po is Create Account then need magpaactivate sa Pagibig branch). Pag OFW po, alam ko po may ibang process siya since physically hindi makakapunta for activation sa branch.

Wala po akong sinubmit na pag-ibig document saknila pero isama mo na din po kasi makakatulong din yan to support your application. Alam ko po at may nabasa din ako sa thread dito na nagpasa ng Pag-ibig as one of the evidence (supporting document).

RheaMARN1171933

@Piper003 said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@Piper003 said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@lolenz said:
hello po, i would like to ask, hindi po ba ma conflict if ang position naka indicate sa payslip ay iba sa actual position? baka hindi po kasi ma honored.. example, sa payslip naka lagay IT Specialist lang pero in reality IT Systems Analyst pala po.. ano po pwede gawin?

Always > @Piper003 said:

Hi meron po ba dito nag Appeal at nagtagumpay? Pashare naman po ng success stories niyo. :smiley:

Balak ko kasi mag appeal dahil 'non_ICT' daw ang role ko pero ICT talaga siya i just made a terrible mistake on my first assessment hindi ako nakaprovide ng detailed na Statutory Declaration at naisama ko yung call centre job ko (kahit di ko naman pinapaassess yun).
Salamat!

You would need to re-apply once again I’m afraid. Appeal would only work if you want to challenge the decision because you think they made a mistake with their assessment. You can’t add further documents when you appeal.

@RheaMARN1171933 Twice na po ako nagpaassess and sa 2nd time po detailed na ang statutory declaration na pnrovide ko as per feedback po ng case officer. Pero nanegative assessment parin ako.

I undertand po na hindi pwde mag add ng further documents pag mag appeal pero pwde po ba mag attach ng document explaining why i'm appealing? Salamat Po!

Isn’t it the same?
Sorry ang alin po ang tinutukoy niyo na 'the same' Miss @RheaMARN1171933 ? :smiley:
Nabasa ko na po sa ACS guidelines na pag nag appeal kailangan magsubmit ng detailed explanation.
Salamat po!

It’s the same thing - you mentioned ”you understand hindi pwede mag add further document when you appeal pero pwede po ba mag attach ng document explaining why I’m appealing”....so you will still add further document dahil may iaattach ka, same thing yung attachment, that’s adding document.

The guideline says no further documents to be added.

yohji

@emil1125 said:

@yohji said:

@emil1125 said:

@lolenz said:

@mandark_d_gray said:

@lolenz said:
hello po, i would like to ask, hindi po ba ma conflict if ang position naka indicate sa payslip ay iba sa actual position? baka hindi po kasi ma honored.. example, sa payslip naka lagay IT Specialist lang pero in reality IT Systems Analyst pala po.. ano po pwede gawin?

Marami po ganyan situation. Mas importante ang job function and responsibilities compared sa job title. kaya you need to prove it via COE and/or statutory declaration. yung payslip is for payment evidence purposes na employed ka ng employer mo during the stated period.

THank you po sa clarification. God Bless po!

Yes> @itsmegianina said:

@emil1125 hello po .. question lang po , kakareply lang po sakin ng acs sa skills assessment 2 days ago.. my work experiences in PH has not been counted due to ‘insufficient payment evidence”. Nakapagsubmit po ako ng SSS contibution document na may name ng companies and payslip but not covered the beginning and end of each year. Siguro 2 payslips lang tapos mid of year pa. Ung sa 2316 po ba may way na marequest from BIR? May idea po ba kayo? Ekis na kasi yung bank statement since close na ung payroll account ko from previous employers tapos 4-5 years ago pa. May maiaadvise po ba kayo? Thanks po

Regarding po sa tanong niyo, In my case (2008 and 2009) the document I provided with ACS for the said year was SSS document only and for the succeeding year random payslip per year ang binigay ko sa kanila (example: 2010 - April and December Payslip or 2011 June and November payslip) basta dalawang payslip per year.

About po sa BIR nagtry ako magtanong sa kanila (para sa previous employer) pero ang sabi nila sakin ay employer dapat po ang magbigay ng ITR kaya ang ginmawa ko, kung anong available na meron ako na payment of evidences nilaban ko na and naging okay naman lahat. Baka po kasi minsan nagkakatalo siya sa assessor kung sobrang strict ung mapunta sayo.

Yan po ung information ang meron ako.
Anyone can help @itsmegianina about her quiry po? baka po may meron kayong alam na ibang way. Thank you!

Hello po. Natry nyo na po ang Pag-ibig? Yun po ang ginamit ko po aside sa Payslip. You can access it po via VirtualPagibig website (Process po is Create Account then need magpaactivate sa Pagibig branch). Pag OFW po, alam ko po may ibang process siya since physically hindi makakapunta for activation sa branch.
Wala po akong sinubmit na pag-ibig document saknila pero isama mo na din po kasi makakatulong din yan to support your application. Alam ko po at may nabasa din ako sa thread dito na nagpasa ng Pag-ibig as one of the evidence (supporting document).

Yes po, agree po with you, isubmit nalang din po if may Pag-ibig records. Balak po ng husband ko pumunta sa Pag-ibig by June. If ever po balikan po kita pag nakapagtanong po siya pano po pag OFW. @itsmegianina

tmasuncion

hello Po. may nakapagpa-assess po ba dito recently?

mai tanong lang po ako para sa kaibigan ko.

required pa rin ba ang payslips? for the entire duration na nag work ka sa isang company?
pwede ba mag pa assess ng multiple skills? e.g. ICT Support Engineer or Computer Network and Systems Engineer?
paano kapag wala ng payslips kasi sobrang matagal nah, baka na delete na sa system?
Paano kapag electronice or online ang reference letter? bawal na kasi mag print sa office daw nila.

maraming salamat po.

jeszy28

@jeszy28 said:
Thank you @HelpYou & @yohji ..

Follow up question po..
Mag 6 years palang po ako sa Sept.2020. sa nominated skill, what are the odds po na makakuha ako ng 3-5 yrs skill exp & 5 pts? my course is BS Comp. Sci. & my 1st job is Soft. Engr. to present consistent naman po.. Too early po ba mag pa assess or pwede na din po?

If may same scenario po sainyo, positive result naman.. sinakto nila sa Bday ko :smile:

dharmaX

Question mga sir/ma'am. does school accreditation affect ACS? hindi nako bago sa migration application kasi nagapply nako sa NZ 5years ago and their qualifying body did not recognise my school dahil daw hindi sya accredited ng federation of universities sa pinas like PACUCOA, FAAP etc. kahit pa nagsubmit ako ng CHED accreditation ng School. actually yung school ay AMA Makati. ang recognised lang nila ay yung AMA University lang sa QC. gusto ko lang malaman baka may idea kayo kung makakaffect.

kasi para hindi nalang sayang yung assestment fee. nadala na kasi ako last time anlaki na ng nagastos ko tapos dahil lang sa accreditation na di ko kaslanan hindi ako mka move sa pangrap ko 🙁

any help/advise would be appreciated maraming salamat!

dlcruzdarah4

Question po. Ang work experience po ba ay automatic na macocount once I lodged my application? 4 yrs and 8 months po kasi ang acknowledged ng ACS sa application ko pero working pa rin po ako. Kapg po ba ng 5 yrs na ako I need to submit my application again or a simple update sa acs will do? TIA

RheaMARN1171933

@dlcruzdarah4 said:
Question po. Ang work experience po ba ay automatic na macocount once I lodged my application? 4 yrs and 8 months po kasi ang acknowledged ng ACS sa application ko pero working pa rin po ako. Kapg po ba ng 5 yrs na ako I need to submit my application again or a simple update sa acs will do? TIA

Skillselect will update automatically.

nashmacoy101

Hi everyone, may na'assess na po ba dito na ung work experience is online job working remotely specifically sa US? Ano po prinovide nyo for positive outcome po?

_sebodemacho

https://ia.acs.org.au/content/ia/article/2020/acs-changes-migration-skills-assessment.html?ref=newsletter

koyodenzo

Good day po sa lahat! Matagal tagal na rin po akong nagbabasa po dito at first-time ko pong mag comment/post sa Forum at may plano din pong mag-migrate sa OZ.

Meron lang po akong mga katanungan regarding po sa ACS Skills assessment, although meron po akong Agency gusto ko lang pong malaman ang mga pwede at hindi regarding sa requirements na isa submit ko.

Ok lang po ba yung Pay Slips na 2 every year? June and December?
Pwede ko po bang kopyahin or ilagay yung COE/Skilled Reference Letter JD/duties/Responsibilities sa CV ko? Which is ako rin naman ang gumawa?
Nagkamali po ako ng pag lagay sa end date ng Company 2 ko sa Letter, instead of June 29, 2016 nailagay ko pong June 30, 2016 which is the first working day ko sa Company 3. Meron po ba tong discrepancy at need ko po bang baguhin yung date at humingi ng panibagong letter? (Medyo mahirap po kasing kumuha dun)

Meron po akong MCSE Certifications, paano po ba ilagay sa document na isusubmit? Kelangan po ba separate page or I include ko nalang yung Transcript ID at Access code sa CV?

Maraming salamat po in advance sa mga advices niyo. God bless everyone!

yohji

@koyodenzo said:
Good day po sa lahat! Matagal tagal na rin po akong nagbabasa po dito at first-time ko pong mag comment/post sa Forum at may plano din pong mag-migrate sa OZ.

Meron lang po akong mga katanungan regarding po sa ACS Skills assessment, although meron po akong Agency gusto ko lang pong malaman ang mga pwede at hindi regarding sa requirements na isa submit ko.

Ok lang po ba yung Pay Slips na 2 every year? June and December?

Pwede ko po bang kopyahin or ilagay yung COE/Skilled Reference Letter JD/duties/Responsibilities sa CV ko? Which is ako rin naman ang gumawa?

Nagkamali po ako ng pag lagay sa end date ng Company 2 ko sa Letter, instead of June 29, 2016 nailagay ko pong June 30, 2016 which is the first working day ko sa Company 3. Meron po ba tong discrepancy at need ko po bang baguhin yung date at humingi ng panibagong letter? (Medyo mahirap po kasing kumuha dun)

Meron po akong MCSE Certifications, paano po ba ilagay sa document na isusubmit? Kelangan po ba separate page or I include ko nalang yung Transcript ID at Access code sa CV?
Maraming salamat po in advance sa mga advices niyo. God bless everyone!
Hello po. I can only answer for 1 and 4.
For 1. 2 ang minimum na payment reference. Ang need po is start and end of the year (January and December) Aside po from this, kailangan mo pa po ng 1 set of payment reference (SSS, ITR, etc na start and end of the year din)

ex. If employed sa company ABC from January 2011 - OCtober 2013, kailangan mo po ng 2 payment references say SSS and Payslip ng months na ito (January and December 2011, January and December 2012, January and October 2013)

For 4. Pwede po separate page but 1 PDF kasama po ng transcript and diploma

Hope this helps. Goodluck and Godbless!

RheaMARN1171933

Be mindful of this recent development with ACS:

Acceptance of Electronics subjects in ICT qualifications:

ACS has undertaken a review of Electronics subjects and their relevance within ICT. ACS will now only accept Digital Electronics subjects when assessing qualification unit content. Analogue and other non-ICT related electronics subjects will no longer be accepted when assessing qualifications. Applicants may provide a subject/course outline to support an assessment of “Electronic” related subjects which we will consider.

yohji

@RheaMARN1171933 said:
Be mindful of this recent development with ACS:

Acceptance of Electronics subjects in ICT qualifications:
ACS has undertaken a review of Electronics subjects and their relevance within ICT. ACS will now only accept Digital Electronics subjects when assessing qualification unit content. Analogue and other non-ICT related electronics subjects will no longer be accepted when assessing qualifications. Applicants may provide a subject/course outline to support an assessment of “Electronic” related subjects which we will consider.

Hello Ms @RheaMARN1171933, sorry po, may question po ako if I understood correctly yung changes. Does this apply po for ACS applications (including RPL pathway)? Does it mean po say yung mga Electronics subjects will no longer be accepted (only digital) at ang possible impact is in the acceptance ng degree as relevant? Salamat po for clarifying.

RheaMARN1171933

Full excerpt from ACS notification effective 1 July 2020:

Notification of changes in ACS Migration Skills Assessment:

Changes in Assessment of ANZSCO Unit Group 2621

Acceptance of Electronics subjects in ICT qualifications

Seoul Accord qualification recognition

Changes in Assessment of ANZSCO Unit Group 2621:

ANZSCO Unit Group 2621 includes 3 occupations:

262111 Database Administrator

262112 ICT Security Specialist

262113 Systems Administrator

With Cyber Security now being its own occupation discipline, applicants applying under the ICT Security specialist ANZSCO occupation code will be assessed based on separate criteria to the other occupations in this Unit Group. This will also align ACS migration skills assessment with current initiatives within ACS cyber security certification and accreditation of cyber security university degrees.

Acceptance of Electronics subjects in ICT qualifications:

Seoul Accord qualification recognition:

Seoul Accord is a multilateral agreement between countries that allows certain University level Bachelor and Master degrees to be recognized by the Seoul Accord signatories. ACS has been a signatory of the Seoul Accord since its conception in 2008.

Qualifications recognised through mutual recognition under the Seoul Accord will be considered to have met the ICT major criteria for migration skills assessment purposes. Assessment suitability is however still subject to assessment against the nominated ANZSCO occupation.

Signatory Countries include:

South Korea

USA

Canada

Hong Kong

Taiwan

Japan

Should an applicant wish to have their qualification assessed under the Seoul Accord, the onus of proof falls solely on the applicant to notify the ACS of this and to provide the ACS with sufficient evidence that their qualification is mutually recognized under the Seoul Accord. Evidence would include screenshots taken directly from the Seoul Accord website Accredited Programs clearly showing that their qualification is recognised. ACS assessors will have discretion to accept or reject the evidence provided.

Note that these changes will come into effect as of 1 July 2020

koyodenzo

@yohji said:

@koyodenzo said:
Good day po sa lahat! Matagal tagal na rin po akong nagbabasa po dito at first-time ko pong mag comment/post sa Forum at may plano din pong mag-migrate sa OZ.

Meron lang po akong mga katanungan regarding po sa ACS Skills assessment, although meron po akong Agency gusto ko lang pong malaman ang mga pwede at hindi regarding sa requirements na isa submit ko.

Ok lang po ba yung Pay Slips na 2 every year? June and December?

Pwede ko po bang kopyahin or ilagay yung COE/Skilled Reference Letter JD/duties/Responsibilities sa CV ko? Which is ako rin naman ang gumawa?

Nagkamali po ako ng pag lagay sa end date ng Company 2 ko sa Letter, instead of June 29, 2016 nailagay ko pong June 30, 2016 which is the first working day ko sa Company 3. Meron po ba tong discrepancy at need ko po bang baguhin yung date at humingi ng panibagong letter? (Medyo mahirap po kasing kumuha dun)

Meron po akong MCSE Certifications, paano po ba ilagay sa document na isusubmit? Kelangan po ba separate page or I include ko nalang yung Transcript ID at Access code sa CV?

Maraming salamat po in advance sa mga advices niyo. God bless everyone!

Hello po. I can only answer for 1 and 4.
For 1. 2 ang minimum na payment reference. Ang need po is start and end of the year (January and December) Aside po from this, kailangan mo pa po ng 1 set of payment reference (SSS, ITR, etc na start and end of the year din)
ex. If employed sa company ABC from January 2011 - OCtober 2013, kailangan mo po ng 2 payment references say SSS and Payslip ng months na ito (January and December 2011, January and December 2012, January and October 2013)
For 4. Pwede po separate page but 1 PDF kasama po ng transcript and diploma
Hope this helps. Goodluck and Godbless!

Maraming salamat po sa advise niyo sir @yohji.

lunarcat

Hi po, meron po ba naka experience dito na yong CoE nila is wala yong JD? Anong alternative documents ang pinasa niyo po for assessment? Thanks

RheaMARN1171933

check the ACS guideline. They don’t ask for COE, it wasn’t even mentioned at all. They require employment reference letters instead.

@lunarcat said:
Hi po, meron po ba naka experience dito na yong CoE nila is wala yong JD? Anong alternative documents ang pinasa niyo po for assessment? Thanks

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