Australian Computer Society Skills Application

lipad2023

Hello po. Currently gathering payment evidence para sa Skills Assessment. Kulang kulang po yung documents na meron ako kaya yung dalawang acceptable payment evidence type na pinaka-kumpleto (highlighted in green), per employer, yung balak kong i-submit. Okay lang po kaya ito?

Additional questions rin po:

Para sa SSS, meron po ba sa inyo na kulang kulang yung month coverage ng employer sa employment history, kahit wala namang kulang sa payment? If oo, ano pong ginawa ninyo para maayos? Tatawag palang po ako sa SSS within the week, baka sakaling maayos nila.
Sa Company A, di ko na po ma-retrieve yung kumpletong evidence aside from PAG-IBIG (unless may pag-asa pa yung SSS). In case po, hindi i-coconsider ni ACS yung experience ko from Jul to Dec 2014, since Jan 2015 yung earliest payslip ko, tama po ba?
Sa Company C, yung last PAG-IBIG period coverage for that employer was Jul 2021, kahit na Aug 2021 ako umalis kay employer. Pwede ko po kaya i-submit yung payslips ko since ang end date ko doon is Aug 2021?

Salamat po.

null94

May isa pa po pala akong tanong, if ever nakulangan ang ACS sa documents na pinadala ng applicant, nagrerequest naman sila through email no?
@denzyou I don't think this is true. ACS will assess your qualification/experience based on the current documents provided, if they see you missed out expect a not favourable outcome, thus it is important to carefully read their guidelines and follow.

Check ka sa fb groups or even on this thread, there were already cases that experience entry was not counted.

RheaMARN1171933

@denzyou said:

@jinigirl said:

@denzyou said:
Hello, just submitted my documents for skills assessment sa ACS.
May mga questions po ako and sana may makatulong sa akin. Little background lang po muna:

College: BSCS in AMA Computer College
1st employer: feb 2005 - feb 2007 (2 yrs)
2nd employer: mar 2007 - oct 2010 (3 yrs 7 mo)
3rd employer: nov 2010 - oct 2022 (11 yrs 11 mo)

Dahil section 3 lang ang school ko, automatic 10 points lang ang pwede ko makuha sa education no? Kasi hindi mare recognize ang Bachelor degree ko para maka claim ng 15 points?

Dahil hindi recognized ang education ko as Bachelor's degree (afaik), ilan kayang years of XP ang mababawas sa akin? Ang alam ko ay 5, pero base sa mga nababasa ko dito at sa facebook groups, merong more than 5, meron din namang less than 5.

Yung years na ibabawas nila sa XP ko to compensate for my Degree, dun naman nila ibabawas yun sa 1st and 2nd employer ko no? Kahit lampas na siya sa 10 years?

Totoo pa din kaya yung nabasa ko a few pages ago na kahit 65 points ay nai invite sa 189 visa basta offshore? Parang ang mga nakikita ko kasi sa facebook, puro 85+ lang e. Kasi sa case ko mukhang 75-80 lang ang max points na maiipon ko.

Thanks in advance everyone! Medyo nanghihinayang lang ako kasi naalala ko lang na may pinoyau account nga pala ako nung nakapag submit na ako for assessment, Nakalimutan ko na sa sobrang busy kaka prepare ng docs.

Yes, 10 points max kasi the only way na maging bachelor's degree ang assessment from section 2 or section 3 is if may board exam (which is wala for CS/IT)

It could be 5 years or 6 years deduction, pero magrefer ka sa ACS guidelines. Meron dung table na nakalagay ilang years ibabawas nila depende kung ICT major or ICT minor yung degree

Heto po table from ACS guidelines:

Marami pong naiinvite ngayon, both 189 and 190. Basta maglodge po kayo ng EOI as soon as possible 🙂
I see. so bale max na pala ung 6 years deduction, based dun sa table?
So kung mabawasan man ng 6 years ang 17+ years XP ko as programmer, I guess good pa din ako sa 15 points para sa overseas skilled employment?
May isa pa po pala akong tanong, if ever nakulangan ang ACS sa documents na pinadala ng applicant, nagrerequest naman sila through email no?
at kapat naibigay mo na yung additional na hinihingi nila, napa process ba nila kaagad yun? or balik ka naman sa mahabang antayan?
Salamat po ulit!

They have the prerogative to decide based on the documents you provide whether complete or not complete. Most often than not, out of goodwill, they do ask the applicant for more but they’ll only provide 7 days to come up with the documents they want.

Makuneru

@denzyou said:

@jinigirl said:

@denzyou said:
Hello, just submitted my documents for skills assessment sa ACS.
May mga questions po ako and sana may makatulong sa akin. Little background lang po muna:

College: BSCS in AMA Computer College
1st employer: feb 2005 - feb 2007 (2 yrs)
2nd employer: mar 2007 - oct 2010 (3 yrs 7 mo)
3rd employer: nov 2010 - oct 2022 (11 yrs 11 mo)

Dahil section 3 lang ang school ko, automatic 10 points lang ang pwede ko makuha sa education no? Kasi hindi mare recognize ang Bachelor degree ko para maka claim ng 15 points?

Dahil hindi recognized ang education ko as Bachelor's degree (afaik), ilan kayang years of XP ang mababawas sa akin? Ang alam ko ay 5, pero base sa mga nababasa ko dito at sa facebook groups, merong more than 5, meron din namang less than 5.

Yung years na ibabawas nila sa XP ko to compensate for my Degree, dun naman nila ibabawas yun sa 1st and 2nd employer ko no? Kahit lampas na siya sa 10 years?

Totoo pa din kaya yung nabasa ko a few pages ago na kahit 65 points ay nai invite sa 189 visa basta offshore? Parang ang mga nakikita ko kasi sa facebook, puro 85+ lang e. Kasi sa case ko mukhang 75-80 lang ang max points na maiipon ko.

Thanks in advance everyone! Medyo nanghihinayang lang ako kasi naalala ko lang na may pinoyau account nga pala ako nung nakapag submit na ako for assessment, Nakalimutan ko na sa sobrang busy kaka prepare ng docs.

Yes, 10 points max kasi the only way na maging bachelor's degree ang assessment from section 2 or section 3 is if may board exam (which is wala for CS/IT)

It could be 5 years or 6 years deduction, pero magrefer ka sa ACS guidelines. Meron dung table na nakalagay ilang years ibabawas nila depende kung ICT major or ICT minor yung degree

Heto po table from ACS guidelines:

Marami pong naiinvite ngayon, both 189 and 190. Basta maglodge po kayo ng EOI as soon as possible 🙂
I see. so bale max na pala ung 6 years deduction, based dun sa table?
So kung mabawasan man ng 6 years ang 17+ years XP ko as programmer, I guess good pa din ako sa 15 points para sa overseas skilled employment?
May isa pa po pala akong tanong, if ever nakulangan ang ACS sa documents na pinadala ng applicant, nagrerequest naman sila through email no?
at kapat naibigay mo na yung additional na hinihingi nila, napa process ba nila kaagad yun? or balik ka naman sa mahabang antayan?
Salamat po ulit!

Parang hindi po sila nagrerequest ng kulang na documents. Diretso na result po agad. For ex. kulang ka po ng payment evidence or reference letter na walang JD, usually ang nakalagay po sa result ay "Not Assessable Due to Insufficient Documentation."

Pwede ka po mag pa review or appeal po ata yun para re-assess po yung application niyo and submit the missing docs.

RheaMARN1171933

@Makuneru said:

@denzyou said:

@jinigirl said:

@denzyou said:
Hello, just submitted my documents for skills assessment sa ACS.
May mga questions po ako and sana may makatulong sa akin. Little background lang po muna:

College: BSCS in AMA Computer College
1st employer: feb 2005 - feb 2007 (2 yrs)
2nd employer: mar 2007 - oct 2010 (3 yrs 7 mo)
3rd employer: nov 2010 - oct 2022 (11 yrs 11 mo)

Dahil section 3 lang ang school ko, automatic 10 points lang ang pwede ko makuha sa education no? Kasi hindi mare recognize ang Bachelor degree ko para maka claim ng 15 points?

Dahil hindi recognized ang education ko as Bachelor's degree (afaik), ilan kayang years of XP ang mababawas sa akin? Ang alam ko ay 5, pero base sa mga nababasa ko dito at sa facebook groups, merong more than 5, meron din namang less than 5.

Yung years na ibabawas nila sa XP ko to compensate for my Degree, dun naman nila ibabawas yun sa 1st and 2nd employer ko no? Kahit lampas na siya sa 10 years?

Totoo pa din kaya yung nabasa ko a few pages ago na kahit 65 points ay nai invite sa 189 visa basta offshore? Parang ang mga nakikita ko kasi sa facebook, puro 85+ lang e. Kasi sa case ko mukhang 75-80 lang ang max points na maiipon ko.

Thanks in advance everyone! Medyo nanghihinayang lang ako kasi naalala ko lang na may pinoyau account nga pala ako nung nakapag submit na ako for assessment, Nakalimutan ko na sa sobrang busy kaka prepare ng docs.

Yes, 10 points max kasi the only way na maging bachelor's degree ang assessment from section 2 or section 3 is if may board exam (which is wala for CS/IT)

It could be 5 years or 6 years deduction, pero magrefer ka sa ACS guidelines. Meron dung table na nakalagay ilang years ibabawas nila depende kung ICT major or ICT minor yung degree

Heto po table from ACS guidelines:

Marami pong naiinvite ngayon, both 189 and 190. Basta maglodge po kayo ng EOI as soon as possible 🙂

I see. so bale max na pala ung 6 years deduction, based dun sa table?
So kung mabawasan man ng 6 years ang 17+ years XP ko as programmer, I guess good pa din ako sa 15 points para sa overseas skilled employment?

May isa pa po pala akong tanong, if ever nakulangan ang ACS sa documents na pinadala ng applicant, nagrerequest naman sila through email no?
at kapat naibigay mo na yung additional na hinihingi nila, napa process ba nila kaagad yun? or balik ka naman sa mahabang antayan?

Salamat po ulit!
Parang hindi po sila nagrerequest ng kulang na documents. Diretso na result po agad. For ex. kulang ka po ng payment evidence or reference letter na walang JD, usually ang nakalagay po sa result ay "Not Assessable Due to Insufficient Documentation."
Pwede ka po mag pa review or appeal po ata yun para re-assess po yung application niyo and submit the missing docs.

They do ask further documents from time to time….but safe to assume they don’t because technically they can finalise skills assessment applications as how they were submitted.

Makuneru

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@Makuneru said:

@denzyou said:

@jinigirl said:

@denzyou said:
Hello, just submitted my documents for skills assessment sa ACS.
May mga questions po ako and sana may makatulong sa akin. Little background lang po muna:

College: BSCS in AMA Computer College
1st employer: feb 2005 - feb 2007 (2 yrs)
2nd employer: mar 2007 - oct 2010 (3 yrs 7 mo)
3rd employer: nov 2010 - oct 2022 (11 yrs 11 mo)

Dahil section 3 lang ang school ko, automatic 10 points lang ang pwede ko makuha sa education no? Kasi hindi mare recognize ang Bachelor degree ko para maka claim ng 15 points?

Dahil hindi recognized ang education ko as Bachelor's degree (afaik), ilan kayang years of XP ang mababawas sa akin? Ang alam ko ay 5, pero base sa mga nababasa ko dito at sa facebook groups, merong more than 5, meron din namang less than 5.

Yung years na ibabawas nila sa XP ko to compensate for my Degree, dun naman nila ibabawas yun sa 1st and 2nd employer ko no? Kahit lampas na siya sa 10 years?

Totoo pa din kaya yung nabasa ko a few pages ago na kahit 65 points ay nai invite sa 189 visa basta offshore? Parang ang mga nakikita ko kasi sa facebook, puro 85+ lang e. Kasi sa case ko mukhang 75-80 lang ang max points na maiipon ko.

Thanks in advance everyone! Medyo nanghihinayang lang ako kasi naalala ko lang na may pinoyau account nga pala ako nung nakapag submit na ako for assessment, Nakalimutan ko na sa sobrang busy kaka prepare ng docs.

Yes, 10 points max kasi the only way na maging bachelor's degree ang assessment from section 2 or section 3 is if may board exam (which is wala for CS/IT)

It could be 5 years or 6 years deduction, pero magrefer ka sa ACS guidelines. Meron dung table na nakalagay ilang years ibabawas nila depende kung ICT major or ICT minor yung degree

Heto po table from ACS guidelines:

Marami pong naiinvite ngayon, both 189 and 190. Basta maglodge po kayo ng EOI as soon as possible 🙂

I see. so bale max na pala ung 6 years deduction, based dun sa table?
So kung mabawasan man ng 6 years ang 17+ years XP ko as programmer, I guess good pa din ako sa 15 points para sa overseas skilled employment?

May isa pa po pala akong tanong, if ever nakulangan ang ACS sa documents na pinadala ng applicant, nagrerequest naman sila through email no?
at kapat naibigay mo na yung additional na hinihingi nila, napa process ba nila kaagad yun? or balik ka naman sa mahabang antayan?

Salamat po ulit!

Parang hindi po sila nagrerequest ng kulang na documents. Diretso na result po agad. For ex. kulang ka po ng payment evidence or reference letter na walang JD, usually ang nakalagay po sa result ay "Not Assessable Due to Insufficient Documentation."
Pwede ka po mag pa review or appeal po ata yun para re-assess po yung application niyo and submit the missing docs.
They do ask further documents from time to time….but safe to assume they don’t because technically they can finalise skills assessment applications as how they were submitted.

Oh my bad. Kala ko po kasi hindi based sa mga nakikita ko na may mga ACS results with insufficient docs. I agree po na dapat complete na yung docs na isusubmit para safe.

denzyou

I see. salamat po sa replies, post na lang ako ulit ng update pag may reply na from ACS. Thanks!

greenrachx

Hi po! Baka may makasagot. Nagpaassess po ako and may isa akong work experience na naging not related sa nominated occupation ko. Meron na akong sinubmit na stat dec para dun. Gusto ko sana magpreview ng assessment sken tapos magpapasa ulit ako ng additional stat dec. Question ko sana is pwede pa ba ako magpasa ng additional stat dec na medyo aayusin ko ung roles and responsibilities na pasok sa nominated role ko? Mas mura kasi magpa review kesa mag NAATI for additional points. Salamat po.

jinigirl

@lipad2023 said:
Hello po. Currently gathering payment evidence para sa Skills Assessment. Kulang kulang po yung documents na meron ako kaya yung dalawang acceptable payment evidence type na pinaka-kumpleto (highlighted in green), per employer, yung balak kong i-submit. Okay lang po kaya ito?

Additional questions rin po:

Para sa SSS, meron po ba sa inyo na kulang kulang yung month coverage ng employer sa employment history, kahit wala namang kulang sa payment? If oo, ano pong ginawa ninyo para maayos? Tatawag palang po ako sa SSS within the week, baka sakaling maayos nila.

Sa Company A, di ko na po ma-retrieve yung kumpletong evidence aside from PAG-IBIG (unless may pag-asa pa yung SSS). In case po, hindi i-coconsider ni ACS yung experience ko from Jul to Dec 2014, since Jan 2015 yung earliest payslip ko, tama po ba?

Sa Company C, yung last PAG-IBIG period coverage for that employer was Jul 2021, kahit na Aug 2021 ako umalis kay employer. Pwede ko po kaya i-submit yung payslips ko since ang end date ko doon is Aug 2021?
Salamat po.

hindi possible maretrieve sa BIR yung earliest tax form mo? mukhang yun ang way para macredit yung 2014> @greenrachx said:

Hi po! Baka may makasagot. Nagpaassess po ako and may isa akong work experience na naging not related sa nominated occupation ko. Meron na akong sinubmit na stat dec para dun. Gusto ko sana magpreview ng assessment sken tapos magpapasa ulit ako ng additional stat dec. Question ko sana is pwede pa ba ako magpasa ng additional stat dec na medyo aayusin ko ung roles and responsibilities na pasok sa nominated role ko? Mas mura kasi magpa review kesa mag NAATI for additional points. Salamat po.

So ang reason lang po ba na di sya nacredit dahil sa nakasulat sa stat dec?

lipad2023

@jinigirl said:
hindi possible maretrieve sa BIR yung earliest tax form mo? mukhang yun ang way para macredit yung 2014

Salamat po sa pag respond. I contacted both BIR and my previous company, hindi daw po sila nagkikeep ng BIR documents. Hinahabol ko po na maayos yung SSS Employment History. Tanggap ko na rin kung sakaling hindi ma-count yung experience from Jul to Dec 2014, pero hindi naman po siguro magkaka-issue yung 2015 onwards?

greenrachx

@jinigirl tingin ko oo dahil medyo iba talaga ang roles and responsibilities pero tingin ko kaya naman ayusin ulit yung job description kung pwede magpasa ulit ng statdec

cailynragsdepot

So disappointed the assessment na nareceive ko. I waited for 4 months and paid 530 AUD and on my 4th assessment tiyaka pa ako naging unsuitable. Di ko magets basis nya eh same documents lang nmn sinubmit ko plus additional ones for my current employment.

jinigirl

@greenrachx said:
@jinigirl tingin ko oo dahil medyo iba talaga ang roles and responsibilities pero tingin ko kaya naman ayusin ulit yung job description kung pwede magpasa ulit ng statdec

I think okay lang yung mag update ng stat dec, kasi yun naman talaga ang basis ni ACS para maassess yung skills mo, kung aligned ba sa nominated occupation o hindi, worth a shot

Makuneru

@cailynragsdepot said:
So disappointed the assessment na nareceive ko. I waited for 4 months and paid 530 AUD and on my 4th assessment tiyaka pa ako naging unsuitable. Di ko magets basis nya eh same documents lang nmn sinubmit ko plus additional ones for my current employment.

hmm weird naman po nila. Try niyo po mag-appeal and maybe share the ACS result letter from previous assessment po ninyo. Sayang naman po.

greenrachx

@jinigirl said:

@greenrachx said:
@jinigirl tingin ko oo dahil medyo iba talaga ang roles and responsibilities pero tingin ko kaya naman ayusin ulit yung job description kung pwede magpasa ulit ng statdec
I think okay lang yung mag update ng stat dec, kasi yun naman talaga ang basis ni ACS para maassess yung skills mo, kung aligned ba sa nominated occupation o hindi, worth a shot

thank you!!!

intotskie

Kamusta application nio with ACS? gaano katagal inabot? nag paasses ako nung September 1st week, up until now wala pa rin ung result, nasubmit ko naman na ung additional requirement nila. Pero more than 20 weeks na ako nag aantay not including holidays 😢 huhuhu

nag try ako contakin sila para sa updates, pero ang sabi "Application Status enquiries will not be answered."

igado

@intotskie said:
Kamusta application nio with ACS? gaano katagal inabot? nag paasses ako nung September 1st week, up until now wala pa rin ung result, nasubmit ko naman na ung additional requirement nila. Pero more than 20 weeks na ako nag aantay not including holidays 😢 huhuhu

nag try ako contakin sila para sa updates, pero ang sabi "Application Status enquiries will not be answered."

@intotskie said:
Kamusta application nio with ACS? gaano katagal inabot? nag paasses ako nung September 1st week, up until now wala pa rin ung result, nasubmit ko naman na ung additional requirement nila. Pero more than 20 weeks na ako nag aantay not including holidays 😢 huhuhu
nag try ako contakin sila para sa updates, pero ang sabi "Application Status enquiries will not be answered."

Sobrang tagal ng ACS compared sa ibang assessment bodies. Di enough ang reason na maraming applications, kaso no choice ang mga ICT peeps. I filed mine 4 weeks ago, still Application Submitted ang status. Try mong tawagan na lang sila instead of email, kasi sobrang tagal na kung 20 weeks.

RheaMARN1171933

@igado said:

@intotskie said:
Kamusta application nio with ACS? gaano katagal inabot? nag paasses ako nung September 1st week, up until now wala pa rin ung result, nasubmit ko naman na ung additional requirement nila. Pero more than 20 weeks na ako nag aantay not including holidays 😢 huhuhu

nag try ako contakin sila para sa updates, pero ang sabi "Application Status enquiries will not be answered."

@intotskie said:
Kamusta application nio with ACS? gaano katagal inabot? nag paasses ako nung September 1st week, up until now wala pa rin ung result, nasubmit ko naman na ung additional requirement nila. Pero more than 20 weeks na ako nag aantay not including holidays 😢 huhuhu

nag try ako contakin sila para sa updates, pero ang sabi "Application Status enquiries will not be answered."

Sobrang tagal ng ACS compared sa ibang assessment bodies. Di enough ang reason na maraming applications, kaso no choice ang mga ICT peeps. I filed mine 4 weeks ago, still Application Submitted ang status. Try mong tawagan na lang sila instead of email, kasi sobrang tagal na kung 20 weeks.

ACS is one of the skills assessing authorities that I like dealing with because they are pretty accurate with their processing time. Before, when it wasn’t as busy as it is now, we used to get results within 2 weeks. Now, that’s a thing in the past…but we usually get results within 12 weeks. On rare occasions, I would have to follow up if I’ve not heard anything after 12 weeks, because rightfully, I can question their processing time based on their normal timeline. When this happens they come back to me with the outcome na. Points here is - if it’s beyond their processing timeline, don’t even think you can’t demand an explanation why they are taking so long to decide on your case. Hope that helps.

intotskie

@RheaMARN1171933 @igado

Yeah, thanks for the insight, nung nag apply ako 8₁₀ weeks lang ung processing nila nag increase lang nung mga November into 12 weeks.

Nag try ako iemail sila ng almost every week since November, actually after 12 weeks, dun lang sila nag request ng additional documents, pero ung additional documents na un, is just a verification lang ng source. Then after that, wala ng response, kahit na sabi nila na they will assess If no further documents are received within 7 days. As much as possible ayaw ko sanang tumawag, kasi ang mahal ng long distance tapos same lang naman sasabihin sakin. Pero I might call them na lang.

intotskie

Apologies if mukhang rant sya, nag hahanap lang din ako ng same case ko. Baka ganun lang talaga katagal ung processing ni ACS and need ko ng more patience pa. Or unlucky lang talaga ako sa assessor ko and need ko na tawagan to follow up.

Naghahabol kasi ako na malodge ko ung EOI before ako mag turn ng 33 this April, sayang din ung 5 points. Inaantay ko lang si ACS, hoping to get a Bachelor Degree and 2 years deduction sa work experience, though expected ko na AQF Diploma lang un and 6 years ang deduction, since nasa section 3 ang University ko :disappointed:

Need ko ba antayin ung ACS Result before mag lodge ng EOI? Or mag lodge na ako and assume ung mga expectation ko to not overclaim din?

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