NAATI - CCL exam - additional 5 points for 189/190 visa

BrizyFilo

Hi all, you can use the English dialogue to practice here
http://carlgene.com/blog/interpreting-dialogues/

superluckyclover

Hello! I just booked my CCL test on Feb 20. Initially I planned to book it on April pa but I need to consider the time to process/release the result as I want to have our PR lodged before FY. I surrender everything to the Lord now and do my best in preparation and the day of the exam itself!! AJAAAAAA!

BrizyFilo

@superluckyclover good luck sayo. Pero as per you signature 75 pointers kana. bakit need mo pa ng additonal 5 points from CCL exam? nag lodge kanaba ng EOI?

superluckyclover

@BrizyFilo, ang skills assessment ko kasi is from Professional Year as I am an Australian Graduate. So around April pa ako makakapag EOI, security yung 80 pts para instant invite.

Piper003

@BrizyFilo thank you sa pagsend ng link.

becca91

Aww. Congratulations sa mga pumasa! I'm planning to take the exams this April in Canberra though hindi pa ako nakabook. Medyo kinakabahan if I'd be ready by that time.

@BrizyFilo, in your experience, masasabi mo ba na mahirap sya? How much time do you need to prepare? Nakakatakot kasi ang risky, I'd need to fly and spend that much para sa 5 points.

Also, how did you manage yung mga english words na hindi mo talaga alam itranslate sa tagalog?

BrizyFilo

Hi @becca91 , If I were you magbook kana. The earlier the better, pahirapan kumuha ng slots sa CCL, at isa pa baka mag change na naman ng immi rules pag sapit ng Pinansiyal na Bagong Taon. Wag ka manghinayang sa $800. Kasi kikitain pa natin yan, pero ang oppurtunity ndi na natin maibbalik. Oras ang kalaban natin. High risk, high reward ika nga.

Regarding sa tanong mo, naniniwala ako na kung handa tayo sa kahit anong pag susulit ay kaya nating ipasa ito. Maging handa ka lang at susunod na doon ang tiwala mo sa iyong sarili. Enero pa lang ngayon, mayroon ka pang humigit kumulang tatlong buwan para mag handa. Sa aking kaso, isang buwan ako nag handa para sa CCL.

How I managed yung mga english words na hindi ko talaga alam i-translate sa Filipino?
Nireremonda ko ang mga sumusonod:
- Hiramin sa ingles ang salitang ugat at gumamit ng unlapi isang uri ng Panlapi. Gaya ng:
Nag-drive
Na-bully
Nag-lodge
- Hiramin sa ingles ang salitang ugat at gumamit ng hunlapi isang uri ng Panlapi, Gaya ng ng:
Fill up-an
Review-(h)in
issue-(h)an
- Hiramin sa ingles ang salitang ugat at gumamit ng gitalpi isang uri ng Panlapi. Gaya ng:
Dini-discuss - (Discussion)
ini-issue (Issuing)
- Baybayin sa Filipino.
Halimbawa: Pinansiyal (Financial), Edukasyon (Education), Account (Akawnt), Porm (form), Isyu (issue), Telebisyon (Television), Sertipiko (Certificate)

Ngunit hanga't maari, kung may katumbas naman sa salitang Filipino ay subukang isalin sa pinakamalapit na kahulugan. Halimbawa:

- Utang pa-bahay (Home Loan)
- Main concern (Pangunahing Ikinakabahala) -- Dependending in the context
- Bahay-Kalakal (Firm, company)
- Tungkulin (Function/responsibility)
- Makalawa (Fornightly)
- Palabas sa Telebisyon (TV show)
- Kasunduan sa pagrerenta (Tenancy agreement)


Kung wala talgang maisip na katumbas sa wikang Filipino, maari mo itong hiramin sa wikang Ingles (huwag nga lang madalas) upang hindi maapektukhan ang iyong "oral fluency". Halimbawa:

- Gas (Ga-as)
- Cellphone (Telepono)
- Bank Account Statement (testamento ng aking/iyong akawnt sa bangko)
- Application form (Porm ng aplikasyon).
- Contact number (Kontak ng ugnayan)

Karagdagang Payo:
1. Makinig ng TV show, subukan isulat ang mga salitang Ingles na mahirap i-salin sa wikang Filipino. Pagkatapos ay manaliksik kung may katumbas ba ang mga salitang nailista.

2. Gumamit ng 'mgha" kung ang salitang Ingles ay may "s" sa hulihan. Halimbawa:
- Mga bahay (Houses)
- Mga kwarto (Rooms)

3. Maaring bigkasin sa Ingles ang mga numero kung ang pinag uusapan ay tungkol sa "contact details". Halimbawa:
- Ginang Smith, maari po ninyo akong konatakin sa aking cellphone number one two five five four.


Note: Ang mga salin na ang nabangit sa itaas ay nangaling lamang sa'kin. Hindi ko kinukopirma kung tama ang mga ito.

Hope it helps.

becca91

@BrizyFilo thank you very much! Follow up questions -

1. After each segment, would you have time to digest the dialogue and write? Or agad-agad you have to speak na?
2. Yung sinasabi mong pwedeng ipa-repeat, and correct yourself, per segment ba yun or the whole examination time na?

Pasensya na sa istorbo.

BrizyFilo

@becca91

1. You only have 1-2 seconds para bumuwelo, and you have to speak right after you hear the chime.
2. Let me rephrase what I have said before. You may ask the Test Supervisor for any segment to be repeated. In such instances, the whole segment will be repeated. The first repetition in each dialogue may be requested without penalty; however, any further requests for repetitions will be penalised by the examiner.

You are not allowed to ask for a clarification of any part of a segment and the test supervisor cannot provide any advice about the test content. Lengthy pauses and repeated rewording (self-checking) of segments will be viewed as detracting significantly from the dynamics of the test task.

If you realise, during the test that you have made an error, you are permitted to insert a correction of that part before continuing. Any corrections should be prefaced by some suitable phrase (e.g. Sorry, I’ll just say that part again).

superluckyclover

Ginoong @BrizyFilo, ako'y lubos na nagagalak sa iyong pagbibigay ng kaalaman sa amin lalo na't wala masiyadong materyales na nakasalin na sa wikang Filipino. Ang pinaka mainam talagang gawi ng pag-aaral ay sa pamamagitan ng pag-eensayo, talakaying paulit ulit ang materyales hanggang sa maging kumportable sagutan ang mga ito. Mahalaga rin na magkaroon ng kaalaman tungkol sa mga batas ng pagsusulit ng CCL NAATI. Ako ay nagulat at natuwa sa usaping ulapi, gitlapi at hulapi dahil tinalakay namin ito noong ako ay nasa ika-apat na baitang - sobrang tagal na ang nakalipas kaya't nakalimot ko na ang ibang konsepto.

BrizyFilo

Walang anuman @superluckyclover. Ikanagagalak kong makatulong sa'ting kapwa. Iba-iba man ang ating landas na tinatahak ay iisa lang naman ang ating layunin - ang maging permanenteng mamamayan sa bansang Australia. Salamat din sa pagsuporta. Sangayon ako sa iyong mga rekomendasyon. Dalangin ko ang inyong tagumapay sa pagsusulit na ito.

becca91

@BrizyFilo thank you ulit!

Isa pang tanong, how long does the examination run for? Sa mga schedules kasi na nakikita ko 3 hours long sila. Ganun ba sya katagal?

Decision2019

@becca91 nabasa ko sa comment nia sa Page 2 na 10-15 mins lang

http://pinoyau.info/discussion/comment/320806/#Comment_320806

becca91

@BrizyFilo @superluckyclover

I just applied for NAATI - CCL exam! Kaya lang, a week or so pa pala hihintayin para makapag book ng test session. How long did you have to wait? Baka maubos na slots for April.

What happens now?

1. Your payment will be processed by NAATI immediately and you will then receive a second email containing your invoice within 24 hours.
2. Your application is then added to the processing queue for NAATI to check. This can take 1 week or more.
3. Your application will be checked. Once approved you will receive an email confirmation. You will then be able to log onto myNAATI and select your test session.

superluckyclover

@becca91 are you aware that you can only take NAATI CCL exam here at Australia?

superluckyclover

I applied Thursday last week then got invited to choose my exam schedule last Tues, 8 Jan. Mabilis lang ang processing! May mga Feb sched pa sa Adelaide and Canberra. Maraming April schedule so don't worry!

becca91

@superluckyclover Haha yes I knew! I still have an active visitor visa. Nasa Sydney brother ko so dun ako usually nag-stay. Kaya lang August pa yung next available schedule dun so I'm planning Canberra, since 3-hour drive away lang naman.

Walang Feb sa Canberra e, 18 April na yung closest. Sana makuha ko pa yun.

superluckyclover

Ayun @becca91 sobrang bilis nga maubos ng slots pala. Last Tues nagco-contemplate pa ko kung Canberra or ADL. Ayun take na CCL at medyo mataas na rin points na required sa BA.

becca91

@superluckyclover Oo nga e, ang bilis lang. I checked may mga interpreting courses you can take dyan sa Australia. Are you planning to take one or self-study lang?

superluckyclover

Self study lang as limited ang review courses for Filipino. Pinadali ng NAATI ang procedure ng exam, before you need to take Diploma in Interpreting. But pag pumasa ka, considered ka as professional and can work as a translator. CCL is for points lang talaga.

BrizyFilo

@becca91

Let me rephrase ulit sa sinabi ko sa page 2. Yung 10-15mins 2 dialogue lang yun. Hindi kasama yung respond mo. Sorry about that. The time allotted for the test is maximum 30 minutes, so kung smooth ang exam meaning walang pa repeat the dialogue or self correction ay kayang kayang tapusin ang exam ng less than 30 mins, but if i were you just take your time.

Each dialogue is of approximately 300 words, nearly half in English and half in LOTE (FILIPINO in our case). The dialogue is again divided into different segments. Each segment is of maximum 35 words.
The whole exam is recorded while your exam dialogue is playing.

From the dialogue, one person says a few sentences in English (< 35 words) and the test supervisor stops the dialogue. and immediately you translate these sentences in LOTE. There is no time limit for your oral translation. Then after you finish, the test supervisor plays the dialogue, and you hear another person says a few sentences in LOTE (also < 35 words). Then you quickly translate them in English. There are 2 whole dialogues in total and each is less than 300 words. The topics are daily life issues including health, law, community, police, etc. you could take notes while listening.

The reason kaya tumatagal ng 3 hours is dahil 1X1 yung test. Meaning 1 test supervisor to 1 applicant. In my case sa NAATI Brisbane 3 lang ang examiner over 20+ applicants, so 3 applicants will do the test at the same time, but in different room. In that situation other applicants have to wait for their respective turn.

Before the test kasi may attendance sheet yung test supervisor andun yun name ng mga applicants naka arrange siya in order kung kelan ka nagbook, so those who booked earliest will be the first to take the test on the test day.

BrizyFilo

@becca91 Kung may customer number kana prior booking the exam you do not have to wait to confirm your test session. Please see attached file.

becca91

@BrizyFilo

Thank you, malaking tulong talaga.

May customer number ako, pero ganun parin yung sinabi sa confirmation email. Di ko lang ma double check ngayon since down ang NAATI site.

kailey

@becca91 Hello! nagbook na po ako kanina ng CCL test 10:30AM ako nagbook then 4:20PM nakareceive ulit ako ng email na approved na ko and pwede na ko pumili ng sched. Nung nagchecheck ako sa website before ako magbook april 18 na yung earliest pero nung nagbook ako kanina ang earliest available pa sa canberra is march 28 pero almost filled na. abot ka pa po sa april 18 AM. yung afternoon wala nang available.

becca91

Hi @kailey thanks! Yup nag confirm na saakin kahapon (14 Jan) and nakuha ko pa yung April 18 na schedule. Ang bilis mag confirm sayo ha.. 1 day lang.

kailey

goodluck po satin!

superluckyclover

@becca91 and @kailey good luck sa atin! ))) gawa naman tayo support system hehe

kailey

sure! nag review centre po ba kayo or self study lang po?

becca91

@superluckyclover @kailey share share nalang ng review materials pag may nahanap

superluckyclover

@becca91 Self study lang ako Tsaka mga tips from @BrizyFilo