GSM Invitation Rounds and Grants Discussions 189/190/491/186 /191 FY 24~25

Ozdrims · May 13

Hi!
Created this new discussion for FY 24~25

To get the ball rolling i initially added sub-topics inside this discussion na pwede natin mashare,

If you want you can +copy and paste a sub topic in your message - followed by your question / POV / update

Example:

-FY 24~25 Fed Budget Announcement

-GSM Planning Levels FY 24-25

-Monthly State Nomination Allocations

-State Invitation Rounds

-Grants Notice Board

-Migration Points Test Discussion

Harper99 · May 13

It appears to be a lengthy debate on grants and different visa categories for the fiscal year 2024–2025. These types of seminars are essential for applicants and authorities to comprehend the changing immigration laws and regulations. For those navigating the visa application process, these rounds offer insightful information and updates that are quite helpful.

Ozdrims · May 14

FY 24~25 Fed Budget Announcement

The Labour government is hinting the budget is focusing and tackling a hot issue among many Aussies - the housing crisis

this could also affect invitations and fast tracking of certain occupations we have not seen in the current settings .
An article was published saying they need 4500 tradies to kickstart the building of houses.

Malalaman natin yan mamya!
Fed Budget Announcement bandang 730 ng gabi (AEST)

casssie · May 14

best bot talaga goes to you @Ozdrims hehehe

so ito na thread for all updates next FY? waiting for inv and grants, dito na din?

Ozdrims · May 14

Regional Ministerial Budget FY 24-25

Migration Planning Levels FY 24-25 =185000

1) Skills Migration Program 132,200
190 Planning Levels -33000
491/494 Planning Levels -33000
189 Planning Levels -16900
186/187 Planning Levels -44000
188 Planning Levels -1000 (will cease by Sep 2024)
858 Planning Levels -300

2) Refugee and Humanitarian Program -20000

rmbalingit · May 15

@Ozdrims said:
Regional Ministerial Budget FY 24-25

Migration Planning Levels FY 24-25 =185000

1) Skills Migration Program 132,200
190 Planning Levels -33000
491/494 Planning Levels -33000
189 Planning Levels -xx
186/187 Planning Levels -xx
188 Planning Levels -xx (will cease by Sep 2024)
858 Planning Levels -xx

2) Refugee and Humanitarian Program -20000

Yun oh, naging 33k na ang 190 from 30k+ last fy. Nice!

Ozdrims · May 15

https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/what-we-do/migration-program-planning-levels?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0BMQABHSaDFQp5w1bRZzouO3T4oA4hE8s_pmkM00PztQssgoKmgynTXbXn6UNjAw_aem_AfsiVnndv_ZFGpPUMWBya_dHqkKNbf394djKHlIq1HU6ji1oDhuaqrqxhQpUxMYjHmpt18XaQj22Qwm58bW0fV6y

Ozdrims · May 15

2024–25 permanent Migration Program planning levels
The 2024–25 permanent Migration Program has been set at a planning level of 185,000 with an approximate 70:30 split between the Skill and Family streams.
Employer Sponsored visa category
The Government has increased the planning level for Employer Sponsored from 36,825 visas in 2023–24 to 44,000 visas for the 2024–25 permanent Migration Program.
This planning level builds on the expanded pathway to permanent residence introduced by the Government from November 2023. It will allow a greater proportion of temporary migrants to secure permanent residence in a timely manner through the Temporary Residence Transition Stream.
State/Territory Nominated visa category
The Government has increased the planning level for the State/Territory Nominated category to 33,000 visas, and the planning level for the Regional category to 33,000 visas for the 2024–25 Migration Program.
Together these categories, which both contain visas nominated by state and territory governments, account for 36 per cent of the overall planning level and 50 per cent of the Skill stream.
Increasing the planning levels for the State and Territory Nominated and Regional categories will allow jurisdictions to attract skilled migrants to meet their specific economic and labour force challenges. Increases to the Regional category planning level will also support key commitments in the Migration Strategy to support regional Australia, in addition to priority visa processing.
Skilled Independent visa category
In the 2024–25 Migration Program, the Government has allocated 16,900 places for Skilled Independent visas. This is a decrease compared to the 2023–24 program allocation of 30,375 places, but still well above the COVID-era planning levels of 7,500 and 6,500 places in 2020–21 and 2021–22 respectively.
Business Innovation and Investment Program (BIIP) visa category
The Government has reduced the planning level for the BIIP from 1,900 visas in 2023–24 to 1,000 visas for the 2024–25 permanent Migration Program.
As part of the Migration Strategy, the Government announced that it would not provide any new allocations for the BIIP while a new talent and innovation visa was considered. This new visa – to be called the National Innovation visa – will be available at the end of 2024.
The BIIP will be closed permanently from July 2024 and new applications for the Business Innovation and Investment (Provisional) (subclass 188) visa will no longer be able to be lodged. The Migration Review concluded that the BIIP is delivering poor economic outcomes for Australia. This has been supported by other studies, including work undertaken by the Treasury, Productivity Commission and the Grattan Institute.
Subclass 188 BIIP visa applications that have been lodged will continue to be processed in line with Government priorities and the Migration Program planning levels. BIIP policy guidance will be tightened to ensure that all business migrants coming to Australia through this program have overall had a successful business career and will bring an economic benefit to Australia.
Those who hold a subclass 188 visa and meet the relevant criteria for the grant of the Business Innovation and Investment (Permanent) (subclass 888) visa will still be able to continue on this pathway after July 2024.
Reducing the planning level for BIIP will ensure the 2024–25 permanent Migration Program is focussed on highly-skilled individuals who will help to support a stronger, more robust, economy.
Global Talent visa category
The Government has slightly reduced the planning level for the Global Talent Visa Program to 4,000 visas for the 2024–25 Migration Program.
This planning level aligns with the Government’s broader reforms around talent and innovation, and accounts for the last year of the Global Talent visa program as it transitions to new arrangements using the forthcoming National Innovation visa. Through the new visa, the Government will provide a permanent visa pathway for the most exceptional talented migrants – such as high performing entrepreneurs, major investors and global researchers. National Innovation visas granted in 2024-25 will be counted within the Global Talent visa Program.
Home Affairs will manage the transition to the new National Innovation visa to ensure applicants, including existing applicants of the Global Talent visa, are supported in the application process. Existing Global Talent visa applicants will not be adversely affected by the transition. Visa applicants will be assessed against the eligibility criteria at the time of their application.
Family stream
The Government has maintained the size of the family stream. Family migration is an important element of Australia’s migration system. It allows Australian citizens and permanent residents to reunite with their family members and contribute to stronger social cohesion outcomes. The Australian Government recognises that immigrant parents can make valuable social contributions to their families and local communities.
The Partner visa category is the largest component within the family stream. From 2022–23, the Partner program moved to a demand driven model which:
recognises the social, economic and demographic benefits of family reunification and the Partner visa program in particular
provides the flexibility to adjust the program in line with expected demand and help to reduce the Partner visa pipeline and processing times for many applicants.
The Parent visa program has been maintained at 8,500 places while the Other Family (including Aged Dependent Relative, Remaining Relative and Carer programs) visa category has been maintained at 500 places.
The Child visa program allows Australian residents to sponsor their dependent or adopted child or an orphaned relative. The Child program is demand-driven and remains set at 3,000 places for planning purposes only. The Australian Government prioritises the reunification of a child with an Australian parent or family sponsor. This ensures we uphold our international obligations to consider the best interest of a child as a primary consideration.
2024–25 permanent Migration Program consultation
The size and composition of the Migration Program is set each year alongside the Australian Government’s Budget process.
To inform the planning levels and policy settings of the 2024–25 Migration Program, consultation occurred with:
state and territory governments
academia
industry
unions
community organisations.
When planning the Migration Program, the Australian Government considers the following:
Public submissions
Economic and labour force forecasts
International research
Demand for permanent visa programs
Net overseas migration
Economic and fiscal modelling.
The Department invites public submissions as part of the planning process for future Migration Programs. Submissions to inform the 2024–25 Migration Program have now closed. For more information, see Australia's 2024–25 Migration Program.

Ozdrims · May 15

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casssie · May 15

@Ozdrims said:

https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/what-we-do/migration-program-planning-levels?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0BMQABHSaDFQp5w1bRZzouO3T4oA4hE8s_pmkM00PztQssgoKmgynTXbXn6UNjAw_aem_AfsiVnndv_ZFGpPUMWBya_dHqkKNbf394djKHlIq1HU6ji1oDhuaqrqxhQpUxMYjHmpt18XaQj22Qwm58bW0fV6y

whoa subclass 189 went from 30k to 16k!!!

rei1995 · May 15

Non-prio here 🙋🏻‍♀️ na unti unti nang nawawalan ng pag asa hahahahaha.

MTfighter · May 15

cguro ung mga non prio idadaan nila sa employer visa

Ozdrims · May 16

@rei1995 said:
Non-prio here 🙋🏻‍♀️ na unti unti nang nawawalan ng pag asa hahahahaha.

Huuuyy wag ganun , hanggat may bukas may pag-asa , hope lang ang libre sa buhay 😂

Ozdrims · May 16

@MTfighter said:
cguro ung mga non prio idadaan nila sa employer visa

Do you reckon that 189 will invite prio exclusively just like this year?

rei1995 · May 16

@Ozdrims said:

@MTfighter said:
cguro ung mga non prio idadaan nila sa employer visa

Do you reckon that 189 will invite prio exclusively just like this year?

for sure prio this year 🥲 ang konti kasi nung allocation tas may backlog pa from this fy...

rei1995 · May 16

@Ozdrims said:

@rei1995 said:
Non-prio here 🙋🏻‍♀️ na unti unti nang nawawalan ng pag asa hahahahaha.

Huuuyy wag ganun , hanggat may bukas may pag-asa , hope lang ang libre sa buhay 😂

Hahahahaha pero sa totoo lang... meron ba ibang non prio dito? share naman ng feelings nyo.

lyrre · May 16

@rei1995 said:

@Ozdrims said:

@rei1995 said:
Non-prio here 🙋🏻‍♀️ na unti unti nang nawawalan ng pag asa hahahahaha.

Huuuyy wag ganun , hanggat may bukas may pag-asa , hope lang ang libre sa buhay 😂

Hahahahaha pero sa totoo lang... meron ba ibang non prio dito? share naman ng feelings nyo.

stupid question:

alin po ba yung mga prio at non-prio? IT here..

casssie · May 16

@lyrre said:

@rei1995 said:

@Ozdrims said:

@rei1995 said:
Non-prio here 🙋🏻‍♀️ na unti unti nang nawawalan ng pag asa hahahahaha.

Huuuyy wag ganun , hanggat may bukas may pag-asa , hope lang ang libre sa buhay 😂

Hahahahaha pero sa totoo lang... meron ba ibang non prio dito? share naman ng feelings nyo.

stupid question:

alin po ba yung mga prio at non-prio? IT here..

healthcare and education roles are priorities

mathilde9 · May 16

@lyrre said:

@rei1995 said:

@Ozdrims said:

@rei1995 said:
Non-prio here 🙋🏻‍♀️ na unti unti nang nawawalan ng pag asa hahahahaha.

Huuuyy wag ganun , hanggat may bukas may pag-asa , hope lang ang libre sa buhay 😂

Hahahahaha pero sa totoo lang... meron ba ibang non prio dito? share naman ng feelings nyo.

stupid question:

alin po ba yung mga prio at non-prio? IT here..

#copiedFromDHA
The rest are non-prio na

The following employer sponsored visas are included in the top priority where an occupation is to be carried out in a designated regional area:
Subclass 186 Employer Nomination Scheme visa
Subclass 187 Regional Sponsored Migration Scheme visa
Subclass 482 Temporary Skill Shortage visa
Subclass 494 Skilled Employer Sponsored Regional (Provisional) visa.

For further information on where is considered a designated regional area, see Regional migration (homeaffairs.gov.au)
Healthcare or Teaching Occupations
ANZSCO Sub-major Group 25 - Health Professionals
ANZSCO Minor Group 241 - School Teachers
ANZSCO Minor Group 411 - Health and Welfare Support Workers
ANZSCO Unit Group 1341 - Child Care Centre Managers
ANZSCO Unit Group 2346 - Medical Scientists
ANZSCO Unit Group 2721 - Counsellors
ANZSCO Unit Group 2723 - Psychologists
ANZSCO Unit Group 2725 - Social Workers
ANZSCO Unit Group 3112 - Medical Technicians
ANZSCO occupations:
134311 - School Principal
421111 - Child Care Worker
423111 - Aged or Disabled Carer
423312 - Nursing Support Worker
423313 - Personal Care Assistant.

MTfighter · May 16

482 visa , lowering the work experience requirements to 1 and increasing the allocations for this subclass, may lead on what the immigration is planning for the next FY

casssie · May 16

loopyrabbit · May 16

confused lang po haha, yung figures na nasa 24-25 planning levels (33,000)...how are these related to state and territory nomination allocations? for those still waiting for invites like myself haha

casssie · May 16

@loopyrabbit said:
confused lang po haha, yung figures na nasa 24-25 planning levels (33,000)...how are these related to state and territory nomination allocations? for those still waiting for invites like myself haha

source: https://smartvisaguide.com/frequently-asked-questions/311

Ozdrims · May 16

1) Planning Levels = 0 Backlog LODGED + incoming FY Allocations (In a perfect scenario- everything can be processed /granted within a FY )

2) Planning Levels = Backlog LODGED from previous FY + current FY Allocations for nominations that can be accomodated ( In reality this is what is happening)

There will always be BACKLOG that are carried forward into next FY , the smaller it is , the bigger allocations they can accommodate.

**Ayon kay Copilot ,hindi sya straightforward haha **

The Department of Home Affairs (DHA) in Australia decides the allocations for the Migration Program based on a variety of factors¹. Here's a brief overview of the process:

Setting the Overall Planning Level: The DHA sets the overall planning level for the Migration Program each year. This is the total number of visas that the DHA aims to grant across all categories¹.
Determining the Composition of the Migration Program: The Migration Program is divided into different streams, each with its own allocation. These streams include the Skill stream, the Family stream, and the Special Eligibility stream¹.
Assessing Economic, Social, and Demographic Needs: The allocations for each stream and visa category are set based on Australia's economic, social, and demographic needs. For example, the Skill stream is designed to address skills shortages and attract people with specialist skillsets¹.
Adjusting for Demand: Some visa categories within the streams are demand-driven and not subject to a ceiling. This means that the number of visas granted in these categories can vary based on the number of eligible applicants¹.
Publishing the Allocations: The DHA publishes the nomination allocations for each jurisdiction for the upcoming Migration Program¹.

It's important to note that the specific allocations can vary from year to year based on changes in Australia's needs and priorities¹. The DHA reviews and adjusts the allocations as necessary to ensure that the Migration Program continues to serve Australia's interests¹.

Source: Conversation with Bing, 5/16/2024
(1) Migration Program planning levels - Immigration and citizenship Website. https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/what-we-do/migration-program-planning-levels.

_sebodemacho · May 17

Gigil ang Opposition sa migration hohoho. This is in relation to the recently passed Federal Budget... Somehow, at some point, it makes sense. But, in the long run, I personally dont think so. This country is heavily reliant on young migrants/workforce, along with the International Students, to contribute to the economy.

E kung gingalingan nyo na lang sa pag-support sa mga land/property developers para makagawa sila ng new housing projects.

rmbalingit · May 17

@loopyrabbit said:
confused lang po haha, yung figures na nasa 24-25 planning levels (33,000)...how are these related to state and territory nomination allocations? for those still waiting for invites like myself haha

The planning level is for total grants per fy, yung allocation for nomination wala pa.. last fy23-24 total allocation for states to nominate is10,700 seats only, this is 190 visa. like ako, nanominate ako fy 23-24, pero possible ko pa makuha yung grant ko this coming fy 24-25 pa, since may planning level na 33k na kayang i-cover yung mga backlog at new lodgments at least until March 2024. Hoping!

Ozdrims · May 17

Chit sheet of what to expect for FY 24-25 raw invites assuming all backlogs can be granted in the next FY , the info is from GM

MidnightPanda12 · May 19

@Ozdrims said:

Chit sheet of what to expect for FY 24-25 raw invites assuming all backlogs can be granted in the next FY , the info is from GM

Just means that processing times is directly correlated to the amount of allocations that the DoHA has allocated for the FY. They keep on promising that the processing times will get better. But always ends up reducing the planning levels to satiate their constituents. I would say that they will keep on having this debate as long as the election, inflation and housing crisis keeps on persisting. Because at the end of the day if the voters are dissatisfied with the current admin, they will vote for the other party, which would either mean that the migration changes will halt, or even a drastic measure will be implemented to “save face” with the voters.

Either way, future seems bleak. A lot of countries are becoming more against immigration. I hope AU won’t become the next Canada.

_sebodemacho · May 19

@MidnightPanda12 said:

@Ozdrims said:

Chit sheet of what to expect for FY 24-25 raw invites assuming all backlogs can be granted in the next FY , the info is from GM

Just means that processing times is directly correlated to the amount of allocations that the DoHA has allocated for the FY. They keep on promising that the processing times will get better. But always ends up reducing the planning levels to satiate their constituents. I would say that they will keep on having this debate as long as the election, inflation and housing crisis keeps on persisting. Because at the end of the day if the voters are dissatisfied with the current admin, they will vote for the other party, which would either mean that the migration changes will halt, or even a drastic measure will be implemented to “save face” with the voters.

Either way, future seems bleak. A lot of countries are becoming more against immigration. I hope AU won’t become the next Canada.

Migrating to a new country is a privilege. Countries allow or disallow it for plethora of reasons. It is what it is. That's why at the end of the day, sabi nga nila, dont put all your eggs in one basket. Always have back-up plans. Yes, with S.

I remember back in 2022, I did put a deadline to my "obsession" with Australia. Kung walang invite before 2023, that's it. This was my way of getting over it. My way of telling myself that life goes on. That maybe there's another opportunity out there for me. Lo and behold, binigay rin naman sya, eventually. It took time. But yeah, we were ready and at peace kung hindi man sya dumating.

Anyway, I'm still hoping everyone gets their migration journey fulfilled one way or another. Australia or not, know that there is a better place and life waiting. You just need to go through the process.

Ozdrims · May 19

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SUBCLASS 190: Planning Levels and State Allocation

Lets look at what happened this FY (2023-24)

• Total Visa Backlog as at 31 July 2023: 48,643 (from an FOI)

• We can assume around 2000 visa lodgements in July 2023 from invites issued in May and June 2023.

• Therefore Total Visa Backlog as at 30 June 2023: 46, 643 (we entered FY2023-24 with this backlog)

• Planning Level for FY2023-24 = 30,400

• State Allocation for FY2023-24 = 10,300

So, we entered this FY with a visa backlog of 46,643 (primary+secondary).

The total number of grants planned for this FY were 30,400 (primary+secondary). So the backlog was almost 1.5 times compared to the Planning Level.

Despite the above, States were allocated 10,300 new nomination places (primary applicants). This translates to:
10,300 X 1.8 (approx. family size) = 18540 new visa lodgements

🇦🇺Whats happening coming FY?

Planning Level for FY2024-25: 33000

Approx. Expected Backlog as at 30 June 2024:

(46643 last backlog + 18540 new lodgements - 30,400 grants during FY as per planning level) = 34,782 (primary+secondary)

🍏 Conclusion:

FY2023-24, we entered FY with backlog (42643) = 1.5 X Planning Level (30,400) and still received 10,300 new state allocations.

This FY looks much better.

We are entering new FY with backlog (34,782) which is about the same as the FY2024-25 Planning Level (33,000).

🚨What does this means for State Allocations ?

One can expected it to be higher than this FY:

can be upto 50% higher = 10,300 X 1.5 ~= 15K places (primary)

Open to thoughts, opinions, discussions

P.S. Government is trying to reduce migration intake overall, we have seen the projected levels for coming years. Regardless, we are entering coming FY in a much healthy state than we entered last FY.

— with Saaheb Chadha.

1stym · May 23

Question po: naka 482 visa po ako ngaun. Gusto ko sana kunin ung mag ina ko s pinas kaso diagnosed po ung anak ko ng asd. pg nag medical sya cguro mkikita un. May nababasa ako n hindi pwede kasi kelangan nya makapasa, may nababsa nmn ako n walang paki ang govt since hindi nmn sya under ng medicare. Meron po bang nka experience neto o meron b kyong kakilala na prehas na nadala ung anak dito kahit my asd ung bata? Salamat.