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COE without detailed Job Description and Other Supporting Documents

lock_code2004lock_code2004 PerthPosts: 5,037Member, Moderator
edited December 2012 in Other Migration Topic
No Detailed Job Description from HR:

If you you have a generic COE from your HR, but you don't have a detailed Job Description, here are some suggestions:
1) create your own job description and ask your manager/supervisor/senior colleague to sign it, or anyone with a higher rank in the company who can attest to your skills/job responsibilities, someone with the same level as you is not acceptable.
-- of course, contact information of the signatory should be included (Telephone, address and email) and their ID (Company ID, business card, passport)
-- if possible, put this in a company letterhead as well (same with your COE).. copy or ask a blank page with company letterhead from your friendly HR or company secretary..
-- then CTC as required by your assessing body

2) this second option is not recommended, and some other assessing authorities are not accepting this.. but if you want to take the risk, make a self-declaration, detailing why you cannot get a detailed job description (such as company closed already etc..)

Other Supporting Documents:
Most likely the CO/Assessing authority will ask for other supporting documents to validate your claim:
- payslip, contract, awards, certificates, promotion letter, ID (from the company)
- Yearly Income Tax Return, SSS total contribution, and PAG-IBIG, kung makakuha kayo ng report (eto ang pinaka okay dahil galing sa gov't offices)
- pwede din bank account showing monthly remittance of salary from the old company..
- kahit ano na pwede mag-establish na totoo talga ung company (maybe business permit, registration from DTI or SEC)

Sep 24, 2011 - IELTS (L-8 R-8 W-8 S-7.5 : OBS-8)
Jan 04, 2012 - EA application submitted | Feb 23, 2012 - EA assessment result (IE ANZSCO 233511)
May 8, 2012 - Lodged GSM 175 online application | June 4, 2012 - CO Allocated
June 22, 2012 - Medicals Finalized | Aug 30, 2012 - PCCs Completed (PH, UAE, USA)
Sep 3, 2012 - Visa Granted (IED Jun 11, 2013) Thank You Lord!
Oct 16-28, 2012 - Initial Entry Completed - Sydney
July 28, 2013 - Final move to Perth
Sep 9, 2013 - Started work with the same company i worked for in UAE/USA
Oct 28, 2013 - Moved to another company.. ;)

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Comments

  • hotshothotshot Sydney
    Posts: 1,643Member
    edited December 2012
    for my case, my previous employer does not issue detailed COE's because they classify it as "confidential information". so i had no choice but to create an employer reference with detailed job description and had my ex-boss sign it. this is not printed in a company letterhead. so ang pinasa ko sa ACS that time ay (1) generice COE, (2) detailed COE signed by my ex-boss in plain paper, (3) self statutory declaration.

    unfortunately, the detailed COE and self-statutory declaration were not accepted by ACS. so, i had to make an affidavit signed by my ex-boss and submitted this to ACS together with the generic COE again. after this, they accepted it and approved my skills assessment application. :)

    i submitted the same docs to DIAC (generic COE and affidavit) and wala naman silang hininging extra documents like payslips or contracts. naging smooth naman ang visa application ko. :)

    but, if you have other supporting documents on hand, then go ahead and attach it. ok nang sobra ang documents, wag lang kulang. :)

    Occupation: Analyst Programmer (ANZSCO Code 261311)
    May 21 2012 - lodged visa 176 (NSW) online application
    May 30 2012 - CO allocation
    Jul 16 2012 - Visa Granted! (IED Deadline: May 16, 2013)
    Jan 19 2013 - Arrived in Sydney
    Jan 20 2013 - Started our job hunt
    Mar 11 2013 - Officially became a "HOUSE-BAND" :)
    Apr 22 2013 - End of my "HOUSE-BAND" career :)

  • lock_code2004lock_code2004 Perth
    Posts: 5,037Member, Moderator
    @hotshot - for everybody's information, what was the difference between these two:
    a) detailed COE signed by my ex-boss in plain paper
    b) affidavit signed by my ex-boss

    Sep 24, 2011 - IELTS (L-8 R-8 W-8 S-7.5 : OBS-8)
    Jan 04, 2012 - EA application submitted | Feb 23, 2012 - EA assessment result (IE ANZSCO 233511)
    May 8, 2012 - Lodged GSM 175 online application | June 4, 2012 - CO Allocated
    June 22, 2012 - Medicals Finalized | Aug 30, 2012 - PCCs Completed (PH, UAE, USA)
    Sep 3, 2012 - Visa Granted (IED Jun 11, 2013) Thank You Lord!
    Oct 16-28, 2012 - Initial Entry Completed - Sydney
    July 28, 2013 - Final move to Perth
    Sep 9, 2013 - Started work with the same company i worked for in UAE/USA
    Oct 28, 2013 - Moved to another company.. ;)

  • hotshothotshot Sydney
    Posts: 1,643Member
    @hotshot - for everybody's information, what was the difference between these two:
    a) detailed COE signed by my ex-boss in plain paper
    b) affidavit signed by my ex-boss
    a) detailed COE signed by my ex-boss in plain paper
    - basta statements lang printed sa bond paper tapos pinirmahan lang ng boss ko.

    b) affidavit signed by my ex-boss
    - same statements pero this time nakalagay sa affidavit. tapos ang pumirma in front of the lawyer/notary ay yung boss ko. ginawa ko to dahil ayaw nila ng stat dec/affidavit na ako ang pipirma. dapat yung boss ang pipirma.

    Occupation: Analyst Programmer (ANZSCO Code 261311)
    May 21 2012 - lodged visa 176 (NSW) online application
    May 30 2012 - CO allocation
    Jul 16 2012 - Visa Granted! (IED Deadline: May 16, 2013)
    Jan 19 2013 - Arrived in Sydney
    Jan 20 2013 - Started our job hunt
    Mar 11 2013 - Officially became a "HOUSE-BAND" :)
    Apr 22 2013 - End of my "HOUSE-BAND" career :)

  • vhoythoyvhoythoy Melbourne
    Posts: 1,551Member, Moderator
    Hmmm. 3 kasing employers ko walang detailed job descriptions. 2 dito sa Singapore at Isa sa Pinas. Bale 4 lahat employers ko, isa lang may detailed job description. Pwede bang isang affidavit lang para sa 3 employers, sama2 nalang? Haha, prob ko din ayoko mag papirma sa boss ko ngaun, kasi baka ano isipin nila. Medyo mahirap2. Not sure kung gaano ka higpit vetasses. Kumpleto naman ako ng corroborating evidences such as payslip, contracts, IRAS cert, etc. Pero dun 2 employers na walang detailed job descriptions, audit firms naman yun at auditor ako, so obvious naman na yun ang work ko. So meron ako ngaun 4 na generic COE in each Company's letterhead, tapos yung isa lang may detailed yun sa SGV, buti pa yun. haayz. submit ko muna tapos bahala na kung manghingi pa ng additional vetasses =(

    ANZSCO 221214 - Internal Auditor
    19 Jan 13 - Academic IELTS Results - passed
    12 July 13 - Vetassess Assessment + Point Test Advice: Positive
    03 Nov 13 - Invitation Accepted 70 points
    19 Dec 13 - Lodged Visa 189
    07 Feb 14 - Visa Granted
    04 Aug 14 - Initial Entry Date requirement
    26 July 14 - Actual IED to Melbourne
    May 2015 - Big Move
    June 2015 - Got a permanent role in Melbourne
    Apr 2016 - Got a contract consultancy role in Melbourne
    May 2016 - Got permanent role and moved to Toowooba, Queensland

    And now...... living the life that i have imagined

    "A great photograph is one that fully expresses what one feels, in the deepest sense, about what is being photographed" - Ansel Adams

  • vhoythoyvhoythoy Melbourne
    Posts: 1,551Member, Moderator
    Yang affidavit na yan dito ba yan sa Singapore or sa Pinas? Bibigyan mo soft copy yung notary public or print mo sa hard copy ng affidavit template tapos notarise lang nila? di ko alam procedures, di pa kasi ako nag papaafidavit

    ANZSCO 221214 - Internal Auditor
    19 Jan 13 - Academic IELTS Results - passed
    12 July 13 - Vetassess Assessment + Point Test Advice: Positive
    03 Nov 13 - Invitation Accepted 70 points
    19 Dec 13 - Lodged Visa 189
    07 Feb 14 - Visa Granted
    04 Aug 14 - Initial Entry Date requirement
    26 July 14 - Actual IED to Melbourne
    May 2015 - Big Move
    June 2015 - Got a permanent role in Melbourne
    Apr 2016 - Got a contract consultancy role in Melbourne
    May 2016 - Got permanent role and moved to Toowooba, Queensland

    And now...... living the life that i have imagined

    "A great photograph is one that fully expresses what one feels, in the deepest sense, about what is being photographed" - Ansel Adams

  • hotshothotshot Sydney
    Posts: 1,643Member
    Hmmm. 3 kasing employers ko walang detailed job descriptions. 2 dito sa Singapore at Isa sa Pinas. Bale 4 lahat employers ko, isa lang may detailed job description. Pwede bang isang affidavit lang para sa 3 employers, sama2 nalang? Haha, prob ko din ayoko mag papirma sa boss ko ngaun, kasi baka ano isipin nila. Medyo mahirap2. Not sure kung gaano ka higpit vetasses. Kumpleto naman ako ng corroborating evidences such as payslip, contracts, IRAS cert, etc. Pero dun 2 employers na walang detailed job descriptions, audit firms naman yun at auditor ako, so obvious naman na yun ang work ko. So meron ako ngaun 4 na generic COE in each Company's letterhead, tapos yung isa lang may detailed yun sa SGV, buti pa yun. haayz. submit ko muna tapos bahala na kung manghingi pa ng additional vetasses =(
    parang hindi pwede. kasi kung ang ex-boss mo ang pipirma...parang imposible naman na same ang boss mo sa 3 employers na yun? hehe

    Occupation: Analyst Programmer (ANZSCO Code 261311)
    May 21 2012 - lodged visa 176 (NSW) online application
    May 30 2012 - CO allocation
    Jul 16 2012 - Visa Granted! (IED Deadline: May 16, 2013)
    Jan 19 2013 - Arrived in Sydney
    Jan 20 2013 - Started our job hunt
    Mar 11 2013 - Officially became a "HOUSE-BAND" :)
    Apr 22 2013 - End of my "HOUSE-BAND" career :)

  • hotshothotshot Sydney
    Posts: 1,643Member
    Yang affidavit na yan dito ba yan sa Singapore or sa Pinas? Bibigyan mo soft copy yung notary public or print mo sa hard copy ng affidavit template tapos notarise lang nila? di ko alam procedures, di pa kasi ako nag papaafidavit
    "Statutory Declaration" for commonwealth countries, "Affidavit" sa Pinas. sa Pinas kasi, isa lang naman format ng affidavit so nung pumunta ng notary, naka-print na yung affidavit. kelangan lang pirmahan sa harap nila to witness. pero, kung may kakilala naman kayo na notary, pwede naman gawan ng paraan para di nyo na isama ang boss nyo dun sa notary. alam nyo naman sa pinas....lahat may presyo. hehehe

    Occupation: Analyst Programmer (ANZSCO Code 261311)
    May 21 2012 - lodged visa 176 (NSW) online application
    May 30 2012 - CO allocation
    Jul 16 2012 - Visa Granted! (IED Deadline: May 16, 2013)
    Jan 19 2013 - Arrived in Sydney
    Jan 20 2013 - Started our job hunt
    Mar 11 2013 - Officially became a "HOUSE-BAND" :)
    Apr 22 2013 - End of my "HOUSE-BAND" career :)

  • vhoythoyvhoythoy Melbourne
    Posts: 1,551Member, Moderator
    uu nga. mukhang malabo maisama yung dati kong boss sa notaryo haha. Bahala na, submit ko nalng yung generic COE, balitaan ko nalang kayo.. =)

    ANZSCO 221214 - Internal Auditor
    19 Jan 13 - Academic IELTS Results - passed
    12 July 13 - Vetassess Assessment + Point Test Advice: Positive
    03 Nov 13 - Invitation Accepted 70 points
    19 Dec 13 - Lodged Visa 189
    07 Feb 14 - Visa Granted
    04 Aug 14 - Initial Entry Date requirement
    26 July 14 - Actual IED to Melbourne
    May 2015 - Big Move
    June 2015 - Got a permanent role in Melbourne
    Apr 2016 - Got a contract consultancy role in Melbourne
    May 2016 - Got permanent role and moved to Toowooba, Queensland

    And now...... living the life that i have imagined

    "A great photograph is one that fully expresses what one feels, in the deepest sense, about what is being photographed" - Ansel Adams

  • alianealiane Melbourne
    Posts: 103Member
    hi! share q lng dn...we actually had that problems dun s isang company ng husband q...he had a 3 yrs experience dun kya nanghihinayang kmi n ndi kmi mkpag produce ng coe...problema nmn dun wl n ung payslips nya n naitabi dati kc na Undoy, then na check nmin wlng hulog sa SSS, uwi cia ng pinas this january pr asikasuhin yn kc my contact p cl nung dati nyang supervisor...ngaun dapat pl ipa affidavit ung generic coe nya dun ... buti ngkaroon ng ganitong thread, salamat s infos! i will update dn if ever my progress

    Civil engineering draftsperson (ANZSCO 312211)
    feb. 7, 2013 - send documents to Vetassess
    feb. 13, 2013 - Vetassess acknowledges receipt of documents (630 aud)
    june 5, 2013 - received POSITIVE result from vetasess
    June 7, 2013 - ielts result/eoi lodgement/WA application (200aud)
    june 18, 2013 - WA State Sponsorship Approval/signed & sent the agreement
    june 20, 2013 - Received DIAC invitation to apply for visa 190/Lodged visa 190($3060)
    june 28, 2013 - medicals done (Drs. Horne & Chin) Frontload(Adult-192.60S$ /Kids below 15 y/o-160.50S$)(Xray 69.55S$)
    july 1, 2013 - health case submitted to DIAC
    july 15, 2013 - CO allocated Adelaide GSM Team 6 (CO Cynthia)
    july 27, 2013 - NBI / Form 80 uploaded
    august 2, 2013 - SG PCC uploaded
    october 3, 2013 - VISA GRANTED ....IED 29 June 2014
    march 18, 2014 - arrived in Melbourne
    may 2014 - 1st day @ work

  • Birhen_ng_GuadalupeBirhen_ng_Guadalupe Sydney
    Posts: 119Member
    hi! share q lng dn...we actually had that problems dun s isang company ng husband q...he had a 3 yrs experience dun kya nanghihinayang kmi n ndi kmi mkpag produce ng coe...problema nmn dun wl n ung payslips nya n naitabi dati kc na Undoy, then na check nmin wlng hulog sa SSS, uwi cia ng pinas this january pr asikasuhin yn kc my contact p cl nung dati nyang supervisor...ngaun dapat pl ipa affidavit ung generic coe nya dun ... buti ngkaroon ng ganitong thread, salamat s infos! i will update dn if ever my progress
    Kung within 7 years pa yan, pwede ka pa makakuha ng bank statements. Like sa BPI, they keep records up to 7 years. Then highlight na lang kung alin dun ang payroll entry. Kumuha ako ng bank statements both SG at Pinas just in case though di naman hiningi ng CO.

    Ginebra San Miguel 175

    August 2011 - ACS
    January 2012 - IELTS
    February 2012 - Lodged 175
    May 2012 - CO Allocation
    June 2012 - Meds, PCC Submission
    December 2012 - Visa Approved

  • sydneybluedsydneyblued Sydney
    Posts: 123Member
    hi! share q lng dn...we actually had that problems dun s isang company ng husband q...he had a 3 yrs experience dun kya nanghihinayang kmi n ndi kmi mkpag produce ng coe...problema nmn dun wl n ung payslips nya n naitabi dati kc na Undoy, then na check nmin wlng hulog sa SSS, uwi cia ng pinas this january pr asikasuhin yn kc my contact p cl nung dati nyang supervisor...ngaun dapat pl ipa affidavit ung generic coe nya dun ... buti ngkaroon ng ganitong thread, salamat s infos! i will update dn if ever my progress
    Yung dati nyang Supervisor sa same company pa din nagwowork? Baka pwedeng magrequest sa kanya ng new COE with detailed job description on a Company letterhead... less hassle pag makakuha sya, he won't need to provide affidavit anymore. :)

    May 2011 - started collecting requirements | 05 Aug 2011 – ACS skill assessment submitted online | 27 Sep 2011 – ACS skill assessment result – Suitable | Oct 2011 - IELTS (L-7.5, R-7.5, W-7, S-6.5) | May 2012 – IELTS (L-8.5, R-8, W-6.5, S-7) | 04 July 2012 – EOI submitted | Sep 2012 – IELTS (L-8.0, R-6.5, W-7.5, S-7) | 01 Nov 2012 – SkillSelect invitation for Subclass 189 (60pts) | 04 Nov 2012 – 189 visa application lodged (3,060AUD) | 09 Nov 2012 - Acknowledgement received | 21 Nov 2012 – CO Allocated | 22 Nov 2012 – Request Checklist from CO for evidence of character and evidence of health | 26 Nov 2012 – Received a call in the office from OZ commission (COE verification) | 06 Dec 2012 – Medical exam at SATA CommHealth | 07 Dec 2012 – Singapore and Phil. NBI Police Clearance submitted to CO | 14 Dec 2012 – Visa Granted! --- Initial entry date: 20Nov2013 Thanks Lord!!!

  • alianealiane Melbourne
    Posts: 103Member
    @sydneyblued ...na dissolved n ung company a few yrs back pa...kya lng nmn up to now my contact cl nung supervisor niya is because yng last work nya before kmi mg SG ay magka trabaho sila, hopefully mging mabilis ang pag ayos nya ng coe,,ilang araw kaya ang pagkuha ng affidavit? ty!

    @Birhen_ng_Guadalupe ...pede pl un, sayang nk 3 yrs lng po cia e :( ty!

    Civil engineering draftsperson (ANZSCO 312211)
    feb. 7, 2013 - send documents to Vetassess
    feb. 13, 2013 - Vetassess acknowledges receipt of documents (630 aud)
    june 5, 2013 - received POSITIVE result from vetasess
    June 7, 2013 - ielts result/eoi lodgement/WA application (200aud)
    june 18, 2013 - WA State Sponsorship Approval/signed & sent the agreement
    june 20, 2013 - Received DIAC invitation to apply for visa 190/Lodged visa 190($3060)
    june 28, 2013 - medicals done (Drs. Horne & Chin) Frontload(Adult-192.60S$ /Kids below 15 y/o-160.50S$)(Xray 69.55S$)
    july 1, 2013 - health case submitted to DIAC
    july 15, 2013 - CO allocated Adelaide GSM Team 6 (CO Cynthia)
    july 27, 2013 - NBI / Form 80 uploaded
    august 2, 2013 - SG PCC uploaded
    october 3, 2013 - VISA GRANTED ....IED 29 June 2014
    march 18, 2014 - arrived in Melbourne
    may 2014 - 1st day @ work

  • hotshothotshot Sydney
    Posts: 1,643Member
    @aliane : same day lang din ang affidavit. basta nagawa nyo na ang document...pipirmahan lang yun sa harap ng notary/lawyer tapos konting tatak, bayad, tapos ok na. :)

    Occupation: Analyst Programmer (ANZSCO Code 261311)
    May 21 2012 - lodged visa 176 (NSW) online application
    May 30 2012 - CO allocation
    Jul 16 2012 - Visa Granted! (IED Deadline: May 16, 2013)
    Jan 19 2013 - Arrived in Sydney
    Jan 20 2013 - Started our job hunt
    Mar 11 2013 - Officially became a "HOUSE-BAND" :)
    Apr 22 2013 - End of my "HOUSE-BAND" career :)

  • lock_code2004lock_code2004 Perth
    Posts: 5,037Member, Moderator
    @aliane - ang ibig pong sabihin yata ni @birhen ay kung from last 7 years lang ung work experience nya.. meaning, anytime between now 2012 and 2005... eh makakkuha pa kayo ng records sa bank..

    kasi 7 years lang ang data retention ng banko... so ung mga records ng 2004 and before.. eh wala na...

    Sep 24, 2011 - IELTS (L-8 R-8 W-8 S-7.5 : OBS-8)
    Jan 04, 2012 - EA application submitted | Feb 23, 2012 - EA assessment result (IE ANZSCO 233511)
    May 8, 2012 - Lodged GSM 175 online application | June 4, 2012 - CO Allocated
    June 22, 2012 - Medicals Finalized | Aug 30, 2012 - PCCs Completed (PH, UAE, USA)
    Sep 3, 2012 - Visa Granted (IED Jun 11, 2013) Thank You Lord!
    Oct 16-28, 2012 - Initial Entry Completed - Sydney
    July 28, 2013 - Final move to Perth
    Sep 9, 2013 - Started work with the same company i worked for in UAE/USA
    Oct 28, 2013 - Moved to another company.. ;)

  • zrozro Kuala Lumpur
    Posts: 4Member
    Kung wala na ba ang ex-boss mo sa ex-company mo, pwede pa din ba syang pumirma sa detailed CoE with job description? Pwede bang backdated itong document na to?

    Or sa affidavit na lang sya pwede pumirma na cinoconfirm ang job description mo nung under ka pa sa kanya?
  • lock_code2004lock_code2004 Perth
    Posts: 5,037Member, Moderator
    Kung wala na ba ang ex-boss mo sa ex-company mo, pwede pa din ba syang pumirma sa detailed CoE with job description? Pwede bang backdated itong document na to?

    Or sa affidavit na lang sya pwede pumirma na cinoconfirm ang job description mo nung under ka pa sa kanya?
    Eto ang ranking based on what is most acceptable:

    1) COE + detailed job description on a company letterhead signed by HR

    Or
    2) COE from company letterhead (HR) + affidavit signed by someone (who knows you of course) still in the company in company letterhead

    Or
    3) COE from company letterhead (HR) + affidavit signed by someone (who knows you of course) who used to work from the company
    - if they can provide ID, or any business card to identify that they have worked in the company is better
    - state why the company cannot give a detailed job description,
    - state how/how long they know you. (like he is your ex-boss, or ex-senor colleague).. etc..


    so in this case, your case would probably the same as No.3 in my suggestions..
    im not sure about the back-dated thing.. baka may issue sa verification..

    Sep 24, 2011 - IELTS (L-8 R-8 W-8 S-7.5 : OBS-8)
    Jan 04, 2012 - EA application submitted | Feb 23, 2012 - EA assessment result (IE ANZSCO 233511)
    May 8, 2012 - Lodged GSM 175 online application | June 4, 2012 - CO Allocated
    June 22, 2012 - Medicals Finalized | Aug 30, 2012 - PCCs Completed (PH, UAE, USA)
    Sep 3, 2012 - Visa Granted (IED Jun 11, 2013) Thank You Lord!
    Oct 16-28, 2012 - Initial Entry Completed - Sydney
    July 28, 2013 - Final move to Perth
    Sep 9, 2013 - Started work with the same company i worked for in UAE/USA
    Oct 28, 2013 - Moved to another company.. ;)

  • adelle_82adelle_82 Sydney
    Posts: 45Member
    in my case nman dito sa UAE my present employer did not provide the detailed COE kahit pa iiyak ako sa harap nila so I made a "Statutory Declaration" with all the details of my company, salary, part/full time and job description as well as reason why you cannot provide the detailed COE including the details of my direct superior and contact number signed by somebody from the Australian consulate d2 sa Abu dhabi attached with other documents like increment letter, salary slips, etc. Accepted nman ng Engineer's Australia and DIAC...

    But I think it also depends on the Case Officer kasi friend ko same kami ng ginawa accepted ng Engineer's Australia but ni require cya ng DIAC case officer nya na mag produce ng detailed COE and additional documents. Damihan lang din cgro ng supporting documents.

    07 Mar 2012 -EA assessment CDR lodged (Civil Engineer), 27 June 2012 - Lodged GSM 175, 03 August 2012 - Medicals finalized (Front Loaded), 13 August 2012 - PCC uploaded, 27 August 2012 - CO allocated, 30 August 2012 – VISA Grant, 03 August 2013 – Deadline Initial Entry date
    To God Be the Glory!

  • loudandclearloudandclear Sydney
    Posts: 225Member
    pa join...

    1.) kasama pala yung salary sa COE. di ko kase nabasa sa ACS website, pero nakita ko sa DIAC website. anyway, ano po specific na salary info na ilalagay sa COE, ok na ba yung "last monthly salary received" lang?

    2.) i had worked sa isang consulting agency with different clients. ito ang challenge sa akin. i handled different projects under different managers. i dont think mapapapirma ko sila isa isa sa detailed COE ko. I created a draft COE with all my projects and my role for each project. Ok lang ba HR manager lang pumirma?

    thanks.

    Jeremiah 29:11
    "For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future."

  • jaerojaero Sydney
    Posts: 401Member
  • lock_code2004lock_code2004 Perth
    Posts: 5,037Member, Moderator
    @jaero - yup.. pareho lang ang question nya..

    Sep 24, 2011 - IELTS (L-8 R-8 W-8 S-7.5 : OBS-8)
    Jan 04, 2012 - EA application submitted | Feb 23, 2012 - EA assessment result (IE ANZSCO 233511)
    May 8, 2012 - Lodged GSM 175 online application | June 4, 2012 - CO Allocated
    June 22, 2012 - Medicals Finalized | Aug 30, 2012 - PCCs Completed (PH, UAE, USA)
    Sep 3, 2012 - Visa Granted (IED Jun 11, 2013) Thank You Lord!
    Oct 16-28, 2012 - Initial Entry Completed - Sydney
    July 28, 2013 - Final move to Perth
    Sep 9, 2013 - Started work with the same company i worked for in UAE/USA
    Oct 28, 2013 - Moved to another company.. ;)

  • lock_code2004lock_code2004 Perth
    Posts: 5,037Member, Moderator
    @loudandclear

    1. yup okay na ang current or last salary received..
    2. definitely, okay na HR lang ang pumirma.. sa mga "well-organized" na company HR talaga ang may records ng job description ng mga employees..

    Sep 24, 2011 - IELTS (L-8 R-8 W-8 S-7.5 : OBS-8)
    Jan 04, 2012 - EA application submitted | Feb 23, 2012 - EA assessment result (IE ANZSCO 233511)
    May 8, 2012 - Lodged GSM 175 online application | June 4, 2012 - CO Allocated
    June 22, 2012 - Medicals Finalized | Aug 30, 2012 - PCCs Completed (PH, UAE, USA)
    Sep 3, 2012 - Visa Granted (IED Jun 11, 2013) Thank You Lord!
    Oct 16-28, 2012 - Initial Entry Completed - Sydney
    July 28, 2013 - Final move to Perth
    Sep 9, 2013 - Started work with the same company i worked for in UAE/USA
    Oct 28, 2013 - Moved to another company.. ;)

  • vhoythoyvhoythoy Melbourne
    Posts: 1,551Member, Moderator
    Paano po ba procedures sa pag affidavit? May 2 kasi akong employer na walang detailed job descriptions pero may generic COE in Company's letterhead and supporting docs like contracts and payslips and ITR.

    MAs madali po ba mag pa affidavit sa pinas? Need ba pumirma yung representative ng company ko? Paano po sa notary public, ready ko na ba yung documents tapos pirmahan lang nila or bigyan ko lang sila ng copy ng job descriptions at sila na bahala gumawa ng affidavit kung may template sila?

    ANZSCO 221214 - Internal Auditor
    19 Jan 13 - Academic IELTS Results - passed
    12 July 13 - Vetassess Assessment + Point Test Advice: Positive
    03 Nov 13 - Invitation Accepted 70 points
    19 Dec 13 - Lodged Visa 189
    07 Feb 14 - Visa Granted
    04 Aug 14 - Initial Entry Date requirement
    26 July 14 - Actual IED to Melbourne
    May 2015 - Big Move
    June 2015 - Got a permanent role in Melbourne
    Apr 2016 - Got a contract consultancy role in Melbourne
    May 2016 - Got permanent role and moved to Toowooba, Queensland

    And now...... living the life that i have imagined

    "A great photograph is one that fully expresses what one feels, in the deepest sense, about what is being photographed" - Ansel Adams

  • loudandclearloudandclear Sydney
    Posts: 225Member
    @loudandclear

    1. yup okay na ang current or last salary received..
    2. definitely, okay na HR lang ang pumirma.. sa mga "well-organized" na company HR talaga ang may records ng job description ng mga employees..
    thanks @lock_code2004 for the reply.

    anyway, sa 2 companies ko... since hindi sya consulting company wherein yung mga managers dito belong to the same company... isinama ko sa signatories yung IT Manager. Bale HR Manager & IT Manager ang signatories. Worried lang ako, baka sa another company ko (yung consulting agency nga), ganito din ang hanapin nilang format.

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  • ace_jeface_jef Herndon
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    got this from another forum, hth - I will be using this for 3 companies - good thing I still have contacts on my previous bosses

    ------------------------------

    I, XXXXX, born on XXX in XXXXX, XXXX, holding Passport XXX, do solemnly and sincerely declare and affirm that:
    I am a Full Time Employee of XXX since XXX as XXXX in XXX technologies . I have attached herewith various artifacts issued by the company to evident the same i.e. Employment Certificates, Salary Certificate, Appraisal Letter and Salary Pay slips.
    I further declare that I am unable to provide detailed employment reference letter with detailed job description on Company Letter Head from my current employer, XX This is because XXXs policy does not permit employees seeking another employment or making another arrangement during employment with XXXXX. Also, there may be an impact on my current performance and work profile as I have recently received promotion if I ask for the reference from my Senior Manager in XXXX.
    Present Employment
    Employer: XXXXX
    Employment period: XXX
    Total Duration: XXX months

    Employment History with xXXX
    Designation :
    Period :
    Roles & Responsibilities :
    Evident By :

    Company Profile
    XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
    XXXXXXXXXXXXXxx

    Daily Duties and Responsibilities
    XXXXXX

    Tools & Technologies
    XXXXXXXXX

    Professional Awards & Recognitions
    XXXXXXXX

    Academics & Certifications
    XXXXXXXX

    Project Details
    Project Title : xxxxx
    Duration : XXX
    Team Size : xx
    Technologies : xxxxxx
    Roles & Responsibilities : XXX
    Project Description : XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
    XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX


    And I make this solemn declaration by virtue of the ……..

    Declared at XXXX, XXXX on the _____ day of ________ 2009

    Before me:



    Witnessed by (Signature by Declarant) (Signature by Notary Public)

    ------------------------------
  • vhoythoyvhoythoy Melbourne
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    Jan ba a statutory declaration (Commonwealth of Australia STATUTORY DECLARATION Statutory Declarations Act 1959) ang pipirma lang is ikaw at yung lawyer/ notary public wala ng iba?

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  • LokiJrLokiJr Quezon City
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    @ace_jef yan po ba yung Australian format?
  • HannahHannah Mandaluyong
    Posts: 8Member
    Hello..just a newbie in the site...I actually same prob..my previous company does not issue a detailed Coe....any advise , what's the best thing to do? Plz help...really want to start preparing required documents
  • lock_code2004lock_code2004 Perth
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    Hello..just a newbie in the site...I actually same prob..my previous company does not issue a detailed Coe....any advise , what's the best thing to do? Plz help...really want to start preparing required documents
    hi.. welcome to the forum..
    read from the top of this thread.. it will give you some idea how to proceed..

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  • zrozro Kuala Lumpur
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    Eto ang ranking based on what is most acceptable:

    1) COE + detailed job description on a company letterhead signed by HR

    Or
    2) COE from company letterhead (HR) + affidavit signed by someone (who knows you of course) still in the company in company letterhead

    Or
    3) COE from company letterhead (HR) + affidavit signed by someone (who knows you of course) who used to work from the company
    - if they can provide ID, or any business card to identify that they have worked in the company is better
    - state why the company cannot give a detailed job description,
    - state how/how long they know you. (like he is your ex-boss, or ex-senor colleague).. etc..


    so in this case, your case would probably the same as No.3 in my suggestions..
    im not sure about the back-dated thing.. baka may issue sa verification..
    Thanks sa reply @lock_code2004 ...
    Additional questions lang po, pag magsisign ng affidavit/statutory declaration ang ex-boss or ex-colleague ko, dapat sa harap ng lawyer/notary public/commissioner of oaths di ba? So kailangan ko pa talaga syang isama doon, medyo hassle sa kanya kaysa sa papapirma na lang ako.

    About dun sa backdating, for example, nauna akong umalis ng company kaysa sa ex-boss ko. At the time na nagresign ako, nagrequest ako ng generic COE from HR. Pwede ba akong gumawa ng detailed COE with job description na papapirmahan ko sa ex-boss ko at ang date ay same ng sa generic COE, so at that time, technically connected pa rin sya sa company. Bawal ba ito? Kung iveverify naman at tatawagan ang ex-boss ko, macoconfirm nya na sya ang ex-boss mo at that time.
  • lock_code2004lock_code2004 Perth
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    Thanks sa reply @lock_code2004 ...
    Additional questions lang po, pag magsisign ng affidavit/statutory declaration ang ex-boss or ex-colleague ko, dapat sa harap ng lawyer/notary public/commissioner of oaths di ba? So kailangan ko pa talaga syang isama doon, medyo hassle sa kanya kaysa sa papapirma na lang ako.
    yes, i think that is the proper way..
    pero may mga notary public nmn sa pinas na payag sila na hindi sa harap nag sign (im not recommending this ;) )

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