Australian Computer Society Skills Application

RheaMARN1171933 · January 2020

@yohji said:
Guys, question re Statutory. Required ba talaga na supervisor or manager? May mentor kasi ako sa previous work ko (well mas senior sakin). Since ayaw pumayag ng mga previous managers ko, siya nalang sana magsign ng statutory. However, ang role nya is technical Business analyst. Mine is application developer.
1. Ano kaya chance na maconsider ito ni assessor?
2. Pwede kaya ilagay sa document na mentor ko siya explicitly para mas clear?

Best to check with ACS if they will accept that.

emil1125 · January 2020

Hello Everyone, I need your help po. I had my ACS assessment before and I'm planning po na magpa-reassess ulit sakanila (to pursue my AUS dream). However, my concern po is ung mga new requirements nila like PAYMENT EVIDENCE and STATUTORY DOC (declarant, need to provide Employment and leaving certificate). Bale po wala naman nabago sa document ko except passport (nagexpired na kasi) bali ito nalng po ung isusubmit ko na new doc. Hindi po ako naglipat ng company since ng nagpasa ako saknila for assessment. Then, I checked my ACS account and I still have my documents on their site (nakita ko).

My Question po: Do I need to provide those requirement pa po (PAYMENT EVIDENCE and STATUTORY DOC (declarant)?

Marami pong SALAMAT sa sasagot ng aking katanungan.

riedbach · January 2020

@yohji said:
Guys, question re Statutory. Required ba talaga na supervisor or manager? May mentor kasi ako sa previous work ko (well mas senior sakin). Since ayaw pumayag ng mga previous managers ko, siya nalang sana magsign ng statutory. However, ang role nya is technical Business analyst. Mine is application developer.
1. Ano kaya chance na maconsider ito ni assessor?
2. Pwede kaya ilagay sa document na mentor ko siya explicitly para mas clear?

In my opinion, it should be ok. If he's more senior than you, especially kung same company padin kayo so macocompare ng ACS yung COEs nyo and macoconvinced na mas ahead sya sayo kahit ano pang current role nya. senior colleagues ko lang din ginamit ko for stat. I still stated that are my supervisor. since we are still in the same company so makikita na mas higher yung level nila sa COE na binigay nila. as long as magkaron sila ng reference na higher level sayo if should be fine. In the end wala kang choice so just inform them to back you up kung sakaling tumawag.
2. Mentor is a bit vague for me. maybe look for a more proper title. haha.. technically naging supervisor mo din naman sya at some point? or baka may opinion yung iba.

TheRealMe24 · January 2020

@Al5yd May I know anong univ/school ka?

RheaMARN1171933 · January 2020

@emil1125 said:
Hello Everyone, I need your help po. I had my ACS assessment before and I'm planning po na magpa-reassess ulit sakanila (to pursue my AUS dream). However, my concern po is ung mga new requirements nila like PAYMENT EVIDENCE and STATUTORY DOC (declarant, need to provide Employment and leaving certificate). Bale po wala naman nabago sa document ko except passport (nagexpired na kasi) bali ito nalng po ung isusubmit ko na new doc. Hindi po ako naglipat ng company since ng nagpasa ako saknila for assessment. Then, I checked my ACS account and I still have my documents on their site (nakita ko).

My Question po: Do I need to provide those requirement pa po (PAYMENT EVIDENCE and STATUTORY DOC (declarant)?

Marami pong SALAMAT sa sasagot ng aking katanungan.

Of course.

emil1125 · January 2020

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@emil1125 said:
Hello Everyone, I need your help po. I had my ACS assessment before and I'm planning po na magpa-reassess ulit sakanila (to pursue my AUS dream). However, my concern po is ung mga new requirements nila like PAYMENT EVIDENCE and STATUTORY DOC (declarant, need to provide Employment and leaving certificate). Bale po wala naman nabago sa document ko except passport (nagexpired na kasi) bali ito nalng po ung isusubmit ko na new doc. Hindi po ako naglipat ng company since ng nagpasa ako saknila for assessment. Then, I checked my ACS account and I still have my documents on their site (nakita ko).

My Question po: Do I need to provide those requirement pa po (PAYMENT EVIDENCE and STATUTORY DOC (declarant)?

Marami pong SALAMAT sa sasagot ng aking katanungan.

Of course.

Thank you very much po sa ANSWER niyo and YES tama po kayo nagback read din ako kanina..same with Supersaiyan I need to provide those document.

yohji · January 2020

@riedbach said:

@yohji said:
Guys, question re Statutory. Required ba talaga na supervisor or manager? May mentor kasi ako sa previous work ko (well mas senior sakin). Since ayaw pumayag ng mga previous managers ko, siya nalang sana magsign ng statutory. However, ang role nya is technical Business analyst. Mine is application developer.
1. Ano kaya chance na maconsider ito ni assessor?
2. Pwede kaya ilagay sa document na mentor ko siya explicitly para mas clear?

In my opinion, it should be ok. If he's more senior than you, especially kung same company padin kayo so macocompare ng ACS yung COEs nyo and macoconvinced na mas ahead sya sayo kahit ano pang current role nya. senior colleagues ko lang din ginamit ko for stat. I still stated that are my supervisor. since we are still in the same company so makikita na mas higher yung level nila sa COE na binigay nila. as long as magkaron sila ng reference na higher level sayo if should be fine. In the end wala kang choice so just inform them to back you up kung sakaling tumawag.
2. Mentor is a bit vague for me. maybe look for a more proper title. haha.. technically naging supervisor mo din naman sya at some point? or baka may opinion yung iba.

Hindi ko siya naging supervisor eh. More po of a colleague and kumbaga buddy ko since mas senior siya. Thanks po sa tip - i agree makikita sa coe na mas nauna at matagal nga siya sakin.

RheaMARN1171933 · January 2020

@yohji said:

@riedbach said:

@yohji said:
Guys, question re Statutory. Required ba talaga na supervisor or manager? May mentor kasi ako sa previous work ko (well mas senior sakin). Since ayaw pumayag ng mga previous managers ko, siya nalang sana magsign ng statutory. However, ang role nya is technical Business analyst. Mine is application developer.
1. Ano kaya chance na maconsider ito ni assessor?
2. Pwede kaya ilagay sa document na mentor ko siya explicitly para mas clear?

In my opinion, it should be ok. If he's more senior than you, especially kung same company padin kayo so macocompare ng ACS yung COEs nyo and macoconvinced na mas ahead sya sayo kahit ano pang current role nya. senior colleagues ko lang din ginamit ko for stat. I still stated that are my supervisor. since we are still in the same company so makikita na mas higher yung level nila sa COE na binigay nila. as long as magkaron sila ng reference na higher level sayo if should be fine. In the end wala kang choice so just inform them to back you up kung sakaling tumawag.
2. Mentor is a bit vague for me. maybe look for a more proper title. haha.. technically naging supervisor mo din naman sya at some point? or baka may opinion yung iba.

Hindi ko siya naging supervisor eh. More po of a colleague and kumbaga buddy ko since mas senior siya. Thanks po sa tip - i agree makikita sa coe na mas nauna at matagal nga siya sakin.

As previously mentioned, enquire with ACS. Don’t hesitate to ask them as they usually could give you the proper guidance.

amqsamonte · January 2020

Eto po yung response sakin ng ACS.

**Once you have started and saved an application or have previously had an assessment the system will not allow you to delete any documentation from the online skills assessment application form.

You can leave the documents as it is and continue on with your application.**

Sana hindi makaapekto yung results. Magproceed nalang din kami for payment. Sana hindi po masayang.

RheaMARN1171933 · January 2020

@amqsamonte said:
Eto po yung response sakin ng ACS.

**Once you have started and saved an application or have previously had an assessment the system will not allow you to delete any documentation from the online skills assessment application form.

You can leave the documents as it is and continue on with your application.**

Sana hindi makaapekto yung results. Magproceed nalang din kami for payment. Sana hindi po masayang.

Contact them just to make sure they are aware. That’s what my admin does each time this happens. It has always been fine with us, no negative outcome on records so far. All the best.

Piper003 · January 2020

Hello po mga ma'am and sir. Baka po may makapagbigay ng insights sa situation ko.

I recently received a negative assessment from ACS.
'You have been assessed as not meeting the requirements for experience of 4 years in a field closely related to your nominated occupation'

BSECE po ako and Software Engineering ang pinapaasess ko.
Nagpaassess narin po ako dati nung Section 2 pa ang school ko and i understand that time na 4years ang ikakaltas pero recently naging Section 1 po ang school ko pero 4 years parin daw ang kailangan. Tama po ba yun? Walang naging bearing na nagchange from Section 2 to 1 yung school. 😞

bawse_07 · January 2020

Hello po. Paano po mag renew ng ACS assessment? mukhang mag eexpire na kasi wala pa ding invite.. Salamat po sa sasagot...

_sebodemacho · January 2020

@bawse_07 said:
Hello po. Paano po mag renew ng ACS assessment? mukhang mag eexpire na kasi wala pa ding invite.. Salamat po sa sasagot...

Technically, hindi sya pede renew.. New application na po sya. Just submit your documents again to them same way the first time. Just be aware of the latest assessment guidelines.

cindyann · January 2020

Hello po. Pano po kung close na company? Ano po dapat ilagay sa statutory declaration?

Tapos sino po mas okay, senior tester ko po na nakawork ko lang for 6months or scrum master po na andun during ung stay ko dun? Konti lang po kasi kaming software tester dun.

Cbantilan · January 2020

Hi ask ko lang po what if may digital copy ng ITR, Payslip. Do i need to print and scan? Or pwede na iattach as soft copy yung documents?

_sebodemacho · January 2020

@Cbantilan said:
Hi ask ko lang po what if may digital copy ng ITR, Payslip. Do i need to print and scan? Or pwede na iattach as soft copy yung documents?

Pwede na yan... Colored naman di ba? I mean, original copy na may signatories na?

Gino · January 2020

Question lang po. I am studying Masters of IT and systems accredited yung school ko ng ACS. After graduation pwede ba akong mag apply diretso ng PR for visa 189 or 190 kahit wala akong experience as IT dito or sa pinas? Pero yung points ko based dun is nasa 85

flexihopper18 · January 2020

Hi.Balak ko na sana magpa-assess, but kailangan ko ng stat dec ng previous manager ko.

Would ACS accept the stat dec even na yung previous manager ko lumipat na rin ng company?

jxh2112 · January 2020

Hi po..tanong ko lang po. Pwede ba mag pa skill assess sa acs kahit 3 years exp lang? At saka need po ba stat declaration kahi may company letter head yung emploment letter ko?

hikari · January 2020

@Gino said:
Question lang po. I am studying Masters of IT and systems accredited yung school ko ng ACS. After graduation pwede ba akong mag apply diretso ng PR for visa 189 or 190 kahit wala akong experience as IT dito or sa pinas? Pero yung points ko based dun is nasa 85

Hi! required ni ACS na for AU grads eh dapat may PY or at least 1 yr work experience for positive assessment.

Post Australian Study
• You will require an Australian bachelor’s degree or higher with a major in ICT which is closely related to
the nominated occupation (ANZSCO) plus one of the following requirements for a suitable skills
assessment:
o 1 year of relevant work experience completed after the completion date of the relevant
Australian degree, or
o Completion of an ACS Professional Year Program.

emil1125 · January 2020

@flexihopper18 said:
Hi.Balak ko na sana magpa-assess, but kailangan ko ng stat dec ng previous manager ko.

Would ACS accept the stat dec even na yung previous manager ko lumipat na rin ng company?

Hi po, regarding sa tanong mo:

Answer: Your previous manager he/she needs to provide the "Leaving certificate if no longer working at the same company"

You can use this link for your reference and guidance:
https://www.acs.org.au/content/dam/acs/acs-skills/SkillsAssessmentGuidelinesforApplicants.pdf

yani1127 · January 2020

Hello, anybody here a UST grad with a Bachelors Degree in Information Systems? Just wanted to ask if your course is eligible for PR (per ACS assessment), asking for a friend of mine who wanted to move here in Aus.

RheaMARN1171933 · January 2020

@yani1127 said:
Hello, anybody here a UST grad with a Bachelors Degree in Information Systems? Just wanted to ask if your course is eligible for PR (per ACS assessment), asking for a friend of mine who wanted to move here in Aus.

It all depends on the occupation your friend is nominating.

yani1127 · January 2020

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@yani1127 said:
Hello, anybody here a UST grad with a Bachelors Degree in Information Systems? Just wanted to ask if your course is eligible for PR (per ACS assessment), asking for a friend of mine who wanted to move here in Aus.

It all depends on the occupation your friend is nominating.

Yup, understood. Nominated occupation naman is IT-related (Software Tester).

I was just asking cos I have another friend who graduated with a degree of Computer Studies (or applications), not sure, and didn't get a positive assessment from ACS (not eligible for migration). Her nominated occupation is Software Tester as well.

So, the degree taken has a factor in it.

RheaMARN1171933 · January 2020

@yani1127 said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@yani1127 said:
Hello, anybody here a UST grad with a Bachelors Degree in Information Systems? Just wanted to ask if your course is eligible for PR (per ACS assessment), asking for a friend of mine who wanted to move here in Aus.

It all depends on the occupation your friend is nominating.

Yup, understood. Nominated occupation naman is IT-related (Software Tester).

I was just asking cos I have another friend who graduated with a degree of Computer Studies (or applications), not sure, and didn't get a positive assessment from ACS (not eligible for migration). Her nominated occupation is Software Tester as well.

So, the degree taken has a factor in it.

Hard to provide a specific opinion when information provided is somehow vague. There a lot of factors to look at. Tell your friend to either do further reading on the guideline or consult an agent for proper guidance. I think yung opinion you’ll get from here won’t be too accurate given hindi naman alam yung entire situation. Baka mapamali Lang.

faitheysmom · January 2020

Nakakalungkot ang araw na to. Received an email from our Agent na negative result si hubby sa ACS. Pero ang reason lang is "due to lack of payment evidence." ITR lang po kase ang sinumbit namin bawat company and (not blaming) pero nagtiwala kasi kami sa agent sa pagbabakasakali niya na isubmit na daw namin tutal mag fofollow up naman daw sila if may additional docs na hihingin. Pero walang ganon. Negative result agad.😔
And then another $395 for reassesment, tama po ba? Hindi po kaya pwedeng ihabol nalang yung insufficient payment evidence. Baka lang ma consider. Yun lang ang reason, the rest counted naman lahat.

Sobrang nakaka disappoint lang, sayang yung mga binayad. Ano po ba maganda gawin? Pls help. 😢

ekc08 · January 2020

hi guys.

any information po for tss 482? my employer is willing to sponsor me as an ICT Support Engineer.

**currently under student visa
** company first time mg sponsor.

Thanks

_sebodemacho · January 2020

@faitheysmom said:
Nakakalungkot ang araw na to. Received an email from our Agent na negative result si hubby sa ACS. Pero ang reason lang is "due to lack of payment evidence." ITR lang po kase ang sinumbit namin bawat company and (not blaming) pero nagtiwala kasi kami sa agent sa pagbabakasakali niya na isubmit na daw namin tutal mag fofollow up naman daw sila if may additional docs na hihingin. Pero walang ganon. Negative result agad.😔
And then another $395 for reassesment, tama po ba? Hindi po kaya pwedeng ihabol nalang yung insufficient payment evidence. Baka lang ma consider. Yun lang ang reason, the rest counted naman lahat.

Sobrang nakaka disappoint lang, sayang yung mga binayad. Ano po ba maganda gawin? Pls help. 😢

kumpleto po ba per year yung ITR na sinumbit nyo?

RheaMARN1171933 · January 2020

@faitheysmom said:
Nakakalungkot ang araw na to. Received an email from our Agent na negative result si hubby sa ACS. Pero ang reason lang is "due to lack of payment evidence." ITR lang po kase ang sinumbit namin bawat company and (not blaming) pero nagtiwala kasi kami sa agent sa pagbabakasakali niya na isubmit na daw namin tutal mag fofollow up naman daw sila if may additional docs na hihingin. Pero walang ganon. Negative result agad.😔
And then another $395 for reassesment, tama po ba? Hindi po kaya pwedeng ihabol nalang yung insufficient payment evidence. Baka lang ma consider. Yun lang ang reason, the rest counted naman lahat.

Sobrang nakaka disappoint lang, sayang yung mga binayad. Ano po ba maganda gawin? Pls help. 😢

I understand where the agent is coming from - that ACS usually gets in touch if they need anything else. Hence, they assumed it would have been the same with your case. However, it’s also an agent’s responsibility to make sure that the client is submitting a decision ready application. Meaning, the application is backed up by all the documents required. If my office would have been faced with this situation, I would very much be uncomfortable to submit an application if documents are still not complete. Would normally tell the client to either - we won’t feel confident to submit until evidences are complete or we can submit them but risk the possibility that they may not follow up and make a decision straight away, that’s the case officer’s prerogative, something agent shouldn’t always assume. You should have been given options and decide on it yourself.

Unfortunately, Hindi mo na pwede ihabol yung insufficient payment evidence since they have made a decision na and this requirement is very clear on the guideline so there is no excuse for failing to not complete the documents.

I’ve heard from other agents how strict ACS had become recently as there has been an increase of negative outcomes lately mainly due to non-compliance.

All the best.

faitheysmom · January 2020

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@faitheysmom said:
Nakakalungkot ang araw na to. Received an email from our Agent na negative result si hubby sa ACS. Pero ang reason lang is "due to lack of payment evidence." ITR lang po kase ang sinumbit namin bawat company and (not blaming) pero nagtiwala kasi kami sa agent sa pagbabakasakali niya na isubmit na daw namin tutal mag fofollow up naman daw sila if may additional docs na hihingin. Pero walang ganon. Negative result agad.😔
And then another $395 for reassesment, tama po ba? Hindi po kaya pwedeng ihabol nalang yung insufficient payment evidence. Baka lang ma consider. Yun lang ang reason, the rest counted naman lahat.

Sobrang nakaka disappoint lang, sayang yung mga binayad. Ano po ba maganda gawin? Pls help. 😢

I understand where the agent is coming from - that ACS usually gets in touch if they need anything else. Hence, they assumed it would have been the same with your case. However, it’s also an agent’s responsibility to make sure that the client is submitting a decision ready application. Meaning, the application is backed up by all the documents required. If my office would have been faced with this situation, I would very much be uncomfortable to submit an application if documents are still not complete. Would normally tell the client to either - we won’t feel confident to submit until evidences are complete or we can submit them but risk the possibility that they may not follow up and make a decision straight away, that’s the case officer’s prerogative, something agent shouldn’t always assume. You should have been given options and decide on it yourself.

Unfortunately, Hindi mo na pwede ihabol yung insufficient payment evidence since they have made a decision na and this requirement is very clear on the guideline so there is no excuse for failing to not complete the documents.

I’ve heard from other agents how strict ACS had become recently as there has been an increase of negative outcomes lately mainly due to non-compliance.

All the best.

I was willing to do it on my own since I was doing alot of reading in this forum but still we dont want to miss the tiniest detail in the process and thats why we decided to get an agent deapite the additional cost as I believe they are the ones who can help us thoroughly check the docs before submitting it. I think it is also her 1st time processing it after ACS introduced new ruling (payment evidence)
She offered to refund half of the payment if we do not want to re appeal anymore. So I'm thinking about it and then just use the money to DIY. What can you suggest po?