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General vs Academic IELTS??? Need advice from Accountants...

PLACPLAC MandaluyongPosts: 49Member
hi po! i have a friend who is an accountant. she got favorable assessment from CPAA as General Accountant. We were evaluating her points and medyo kapos sya from getting 65 points because of her age. her plan is to retake IELTS and aim for 8 band score in order for her to get the max points for enlish language ability. the question is, ok lang bah if she will take the general IELTS test instead of academic???
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  • opfretopfret Singapore
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    accountant = academic
  • BryannBryann Sydney
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    @opfret
    Hirap pala, academic pa IELTS nila. Iba sa writing and speaking.

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    Feb 03 2012 - IELTS #1 Failed (W-6.5)
    Mar 02 2012 - IELTS #2 Passed
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  • LokiJrLokiJr Quezon City
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    Academic IELTS po ang kelangan para sa mga accountants...Konti lang naman ang kaibahan ng Academic sa GT....imbes na Letter / Invitation gagawin sa Task 1...mag-iinterpret ka ng graph...

    Tapos yung Reading exam mas mahaba yung passage. :)
  • k_mavsk_mavs Melbourne
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    OO nga mas mahaba yung mga reading passages for academic IELTS.

    “We can make our own plans, but the LORD gives the right answer.”

  • quellyquelly Davao City
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    Does anyone know anong type of ielts exam ang kailangan for Training and Development Professionals sa GSM?

    OCCUPATION: Training and Development Professional (223311)

    Nov 2012 - prepared documents for VETASSESS
    December 2012 - submitted documents for VETASSESS
    March 8, 2013 - IELTS Speaking Test
    March 9, 2013 - IELTS L-R-W
    March 20, 2013 - IELTS Results L-7.0, R-6.5, W-7.5, S-7.0 ;((
    March 21, 2013 - VETASSESS and Points Test Advice Results - POSITIVE
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    Feb. 22, 2014 - Submitted ACT Nomination Application

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  • LokiJrLokiJr Quezon City
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    If your job involves training or teaching other people, then you will need Academic IELTS.

    Of course, it wouldn't hurt to double check hehe
  • lock_code2004lock_code2004 Perth
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    @quelly - check mo ang assessing authority mo.. kung anung requirement nila..

    Sep 24, 2011 - IELTS (L-8 R-8 W-8 S-7.5 : OBS-8)
    Jan 04, 2012 - EA application submitted | Feb 23, 2012 - EA assessment result (IE ANZSCO 233511)
    May 8, 2012 - Lodged GSM 175 online application | June 4, 2012 - CO Allocated
    June 22, 2012 - Medicals Finalized | Aug 30, 2012 - PCCs Completed (PH, UAE, USA)
    Sep 3, 2012 - Visa Granted (IED Jun 11, 2013) Thank You Lord!
    Oct 16-28, 2012 - Initial Entry Completed - Sydney
    July 28, 2013 - Final move to Perth
    Sep 9, 2013 - Started work with the same company i worked for in UAE/USA
    Oct 28, 2013 - Moved to another company.. ;)

  • LokiJrLokiJr Quezon City
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    Actually pabor sa mga accountants ang Academic IELTS kasi kadalasan data interpretation ang pinapagawa dun...in short, no need to think of a creative intro or content kasi kelangan mo lang ipresent yung dat :)
  • HannahHannah Mandaluyong
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    Hi..I'm a newbie on this site...and I'm planning to take academic exam since I'm an accountant..any reviewer you can suggest? And I'm not yet applying a visa..what particular type of visa you could suggest..my mom is already in aus...
  • TasBurrfootTasBurrfoot Osaka
    Posts: 4,336Member
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    Hi..I'm a newbie on this site...and I'm planning to take academic exam since I'm an accountant..any reviewer you can suggest? And I'm not yet applying a visa..what particular type of visa you could suggest..my mom is already in aus...
    you can get a 189 skilled migrant visa

    as to reviewer, try looking at the IELTS reviewer link at the top this website... :)

    Goodluck!!

    Primary Applicant: Wife
    Accountant (General): 221111

    04 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module)
    07 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module) Speaking Part
    17 Aug 2012 - IELTS Results (L: 8.5 R: 8.5 W: 7.0 S: 7.5 OBS: 8.0)
    24 Aug 2012 - CPAA Submitted (docs mailed same day via SG EMS)
    25 Sep 2012 - Received +Skills Assessment from CPAA
    25 Sep 2012 - Lodged EOI Application with 70pts
    30 Sep 2012 - Invited by DIAC to apply for 189 Visa
    01 Oct 2012 - Submitted 189 Visa Application
    20 Oct 2012 - Medical Examinations
    23 Oct 2012 - CO Assigned; Team 7 - SA
    05 Nov 2012 - Submitted SG PCC and NBI Clearance
    06 Nov 2012 - Visa Granted (IED: 23/10/2013)
    03 Apr 2013 - Flight to MEL
    03 Jun 2013 - started work
    12 Jun 2013 - wife started work
    15 Jun 2016 - applied for citizenship
    29 Jul 2016 - citizenship examination
    20 Oct 2016 - Aussie, Aussie, Aussie Oi Oi Oi!!

  • HannahHannah Mandaluyong
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    Thanks @psychoboy.. Is 189 visa much better than 489 visa...was just thinking that I could have additional 10 points..and would give me total of 75 points that would help to fast track my application...just asking your thoughts??
  • TasBurrfootTasBurrfoot Osaka
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    Thanks @psychoboy.. Is 189 visa much better than 489 visa...was just thinking that I could have additional 10 points..and would give me total of 75 points that would help to fast track my application...just asking your thoughts??
    Sorry I dunno what is a 489 visa...

    However you mentioned an additional 10 pts would give you 75 pts? Well and good but even if you just have 65 pts, automatically makakatanggap ka ng invitation pa rin when you lodge a 189 visa...

    Primary Applicant: Wife
    Accountant (General): 221111

    04 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module)
    07 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module) Speaking Part
    17 Aug 2012 - IELTS Results (L: 8.5 R: 8.5 W: 7.0 S: 7.5 OBS: 8.0)
    24 Aug 2012 - CPAA Submitted (docs mailed same day via SG EMS)
    25 Sep 2012 - Received +Skills Assessment from CPAA
    25 Sep 2012 - Lodged EOI Application with 70pts
    30 Sep 2012 - Invited by DIAC to apply for 189 Visa
    01 Oct 2012 - Submitted 189 Visa Application
    20 Oct 2012 - Medical Examinations
    23 Oct 2012 - CO Assigned; Team 7 - SA
    05 Nov 2012 - Submitted SG PCC and NBI Clearance
    06 Nov 2012 - Visa Granted (IED: 23/10/2013)
    03 Apr 2013 - Flight to MEL
    03 Jun 2013 - started work
    12 Jun 2013 - wife started work
    15 Jun 2016 - applied for citizenship
    29 Jul 2016 - citizenship examination
    20 Oct 2016 - Aussie, Aussie, Aussie Oi Oi Oi!!

  • lock_code2004lock_code2004 Perth
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    edited January 2013
    Thanks @psychoboy.. Is 189 visa much better than 489 visa...was just thinking that I could have additional 10 points..and would give me total of 75 points that would help to fast track my application...just asking your thoughts??
    489 Regional Temporary Visa (valid for 4 yrs) which will require either:
    - State Sponsorship on a regional area (occupation should in CSOL)
    - or Relative Sponsorship (if your family is living in a designated area, and your occupation is in SOL Sched 1)
    Restriction/s: you have to live and work in that regional area for 2 yrs.


    189- Independent skilled migrant
    - PR visa
    - No restrictions, you can live and work anywhere

    Sep 24, 2011 - IELTS (L-8 R-8 W-8 S-7.5 : OBS-8)
    Jan 04, 2012 - EA application submitted | Feb 23, 2012 - EA assessment result (IE ANZSCO 233511)
    May 8, 2012 - Lodged GSM 175 online application | June 4, 2012 - CO Allocated
    June 22, 2012 - Medicals Finalized | Aug 30, 2012 - PCCs Completed (PH, UAE, USA)
    Sep 3, 2012 - Visa Granted (IED Jun 11, 2013) Thank You Lord!
    Oct 16-28, 2012 - Initial Entry Completed - Sydney
    July 28, 2013 - Final move to Perth
    Sep 9, 2013 - Started work with the same company i worked for in UAE/USA
    Oct 28, 2013 - Moved to another company.. ;)

  • HannahHannah Mandaluyong
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    Joined: Jan 19, 2013
    @lock_code2004 and @psychoboy ....thanks po...so mas ok po pla ang 189 visa...now need to prepare for EILTS....hayyy...kinakabahan n aq ngaun plang...
  • TasBurrfootTasBurrfoot Osaka
    Posts: 4,336Member
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    @lock_code2004 and @psychoboy ....thanks po...so mas ok po pla ang 189 visa...now need to prepare for EILTS....hayyy...kinakabahan n aq ngaun plang...
    That is why kailangan ng practice, practice and more practice... :)

    Goodluck!!

    Primary Applicant: Wife
    Accountant (General): 221111

    04 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module)
    07 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module) Speaking Part
    17 Aug 2012 - IELTS Results (L: 8.5 R: 8.5 W: 7.0 S: 7.5 OBS: 8.0)
    24 Aug 2012 - CPAA Submitted (docs mailed same day via SG EMS)
    25 Sep 2012 - Received +Skills Assessment from CPAA
    25 Sep 2012 - Lodged EOI Application with 70pts
    30 Sep 2012 - Invited by DIAC to apply for 189 Visa
    01 Oct 2012 - Submitted 189 Visa Application
    20 Oct 2012 - Medical Examinations
    23 Oct 2012 - CO Assigned; Team 7 - SA
    05 Nov 2012 - Submitted SG PCC and NBI Clearance
    06 Nov 2012 - Visa Granted (IED: 23/10/2013)
    03 Apr 2013 - Flight to MEL
    03 Jun 2013 - started work
    12 Jun 2013 - wife started work
    15 Jun 2016 - applied for citizenship
    29 Jul 2016 - citizenship examination
    20 Oct 2016 - Aussie, Aussie, Aussie Oi Oi Oi!!

  • TasBurrfootTasBurrfoot Osaka
    Posts: 4,336Member
    Joined: Feb 24, 2011
    hi po! i have a friend who is an accountant. she got favorable assessment from CPAA as General Accountant. We were evaluating her points and medyo kapos sya from getting 65 points because of her age. her plan is to retake IELTS and aim for 8 band score in order for her to get the max points for enlish language ability. the question is, ok lang bah if she will take the general IELTS test instead of academic???
    This is an interesting point - pwede kaya?

    As far as DIAC is concerned kasi, GENERAL lang ang kailangan... However, CPA Australia needs ACADEMIC for their requirements.

    Having said the above, CPA Australia requirement has already been fulfilled but the applicant need a higher score so he/she is looking at taking a GENERAL module as this is definitely easier than the other one. I THINK PWEDE!!

    I was exploring this option before but thankfully I need not act on it na. Needless to say, I have my opinion on the above but will DIAC agree with me is something I am not sure on.

    Primary Applicant: Wife
    Accountant (General): 221111

    04 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module)
    07 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module) Speaking Part
    17 Aug 2012 - IELTS Results (L: 8.5 R: 8.5 W: 7.0 S: 7.5 OBS: 8.0)
    24 Aug 2012 - CPAA Submitted (docs mailed same day via SG EMS)
    25 Sep 2012 - Received +Skills Assessment from CPAA
    25 Sep 2012 - Lodged EOI Application with 70pts
    30 Sep 2012 - Invited by DIAC to apply for 189 Visa
    01 Oct 2012 - Submitted 189 Visa Application
    20 Oct 2012 - Medical Examinations
    23 Oct 2012 - CO Assigned; Team 7 - SA
    05 Nov 2012 - Submitted SG PCC and NBI Clearance
    06 Nov 2012 - Visa Granted (IED: 23/10/2013)
    03 Apr 2013 - Flight to MEL
    03 Jun 2013 - started work
    12 Jun 2013 - wife started work
    15 Jun 2016 - applied for citizenship
    29 Jul 2016 - citizenship examination
    20 Oct 2016 - Aussie, Aussie, Aussie Oi Oi Oi!!

  • lhenglhenglhenglheng Mandaluyong
    Posts: 6Member
    Joined: Mar 31, 2013
    @psychoboy hi po, I have a related question po...I had a favorable assessment from NIA before pa...during the time, di pa required and IELTS para maassess ng NIA... at hanggang ngyon di pa ko ng IELTS....for the skills assessment nmn ng NIA, di nmn required and IELTS kasi nga associate member na ko before 2012. Now, my question is, should I take GT or academic, since I'll be taking the exam for VISA application nalang ( this im not also sure)
  • TasBurrfootTasBurrfoot Osaka
    Posts: 4,336Member
    Joined: Feb 24, 2011
    @psychoboy hi po, I have a related question po...I had a favorable assessment from NIA before pa...during the time, di pa required and IELTS para maassess ng NIA... at hanggang ngyon di pa ko ng IELTS....for the skills assessment nmn ng NIA, di nmn required and IELTS kasi nga associate member na ko before 2012. Now, my question is, should I take GT or academic, since I'll be taking the exam for VISA application nalang ( this im not also sure)
    Check with your assessing authority on this - I have no idea on the answer to your query as we did not undergo this route...

    Primary Applicant: Wife
    Accountant (General): 221111

    04 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module)
    07 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module) Speaking Part
    17 Aug 2012 - IELTS Results (L: 8.5 R: 8.5 W: 7.0 S: 7.5 OBS: 8.0)
    24 Aug 2012 - CPAA Submitted (docs mailed same day via SG EMS)
    25 Sep 2012 - Received +Skills Assessment from CPAA
    25 Sep 2012 - Lodged EOI Application with 70pts
    30 Sep 2012 - Invited by DIAC to apply for 189 Visa
    01 Oct 2012 - Submitted 189 Visa Application
    20 Oct 2012 - Medical Examinations
    23 Oct 2012 - CO Assigned; Team 7 - SA
    05 Nov 2012 - Submitted SG PCC and NBI Clearance
    06 Nov 2012 - Visa Granted (IED: 23/10/2013)
    03 Apr 2013 - Flight to MEL
    03 Jun 2013 - started work
    12 Jun 2013 - wife started work
    15 Jun 2016 - applied for citizenship
    29 Jul 2016 - citizenship examination
    20 Oct 2016 - Aussie, Aussie, Aussie Oi Oi Oi!!

  • lock_code2004lock_code2004 Perth
    Posts: 5,037Member, De-activated
    Joined: Feb 23, 2012
    edited May 2013
    @All,

    This is a note from DIAC website:
    There are two IELTS tests—an academic test and a general training test. You need to take only the general test UNLESS otherwise advised by your skills assessing authority.
    So meaning kung may requirement na IELTS ang assessing authority, yun dapat ang kunin nyo.
    I think (my opinion) hindi pwedeng gamitin ang General Test for the purpose of claiming points sa EOI, kasi alam nila ang requirements ng assessing authority..

    but yeah, no one has tried it..
    malay nyo pwede nga pala talaga...

    Sep 24, 2011 - IELTS (L-8 R-8 W-8 S-7.5 : OBS-8)
    Jan 04, 2012 - EA application submitted | Feb 23, 2012 - EA assessment result (IE ANZSCO 233511)
    May 8, 2012 - Lodged GSM 175 online application | June 4, 2012 - CO Allocated
    June 22, 2012 - Medicals Finalized | Aug 30, 2012 - PCCs Completed (PH, UAE, USA)
    Sep 3, 2012 - Visa Granted (IED Jun 11, 2013) Thank You Lord!
    Oct 16-28, 2012 - Initial Entry Completed - Sydney
    July 28, 2013 - Final move to Perth
    Sep 9, 2013 - Started work with the same company i worked for in UAE/USA
    Oct 28, 2013 - Moved to another company.. ;)

  • lock_code2004lock_code2004 Perth
    Posts: 5,037Member, De-activated
    Joined: Feb 23, 2012
    @psychoboy hi po, I have a related question po...I had a favorable assessment from NIA before pa...during the time, di pa required and IELTS para maassess ng NIA... at hanggang ngyon di pa ko ng IELTS....for the skills assessment nmn ng NIA, di nmn required and IELTS kasi nga associate member na ko before 2012. Now, my question is, should I take GT or academic, since I'll be taking the exam for VISA application nalang ( this im not also sure)
    if i may reply, may same case nyan dito.. i forgot the username..
    so if you had your assessment when IELTS was not yet a requirement,
    then pwede ka kumuha ng IELTS general test...
    of course provided na valid pa rin ang assessment mo..

    for sure meron answer nyan sa website ng assessing agency mo...

    Sep 24, 2011 - IELTS (L-8 R-8 W-8 S-7.5 : OBS-8)
    Jan 04, 2012 - EA application submitted | Feb 23, 2012 - EA assessment result (IE ANZSCO 233511)
    May 8, 2012 - Lodged GSM 175 online application | June 4, 2012 - CO Allocated
    June 22, 2012 - Medicals Finalized | Aug 30, 2012 - PCCs Completed (PH, UAE, USA)
    Sep 3, 2012 - Visa Granted (IED Jun 11, 2013) Thank You Lord!
    Oct 16-28, 2012 - Initial Entry Completed - Sydney
    July 28, 2013 - Final move to Perth
    Sep 9, 2013 - Started work with the same company i worked for in UAE/USA
    Oct 28, 2013 - Moved to another company.. ;)

  • lhenglhenglhenglheng Mandaluyong
    Posts: 6Member
    Joined: Mar 31, 2013
  • jcruzjcruz Mandaluyong
    Posts: 8Member
    Joined: Dec 14, 2012
    As per this website http://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/become-a-cpa/migration-assessment/requirements-and-criteria, CPAs bound for Australia needed to pass the Academic IELTS module - 7 for each component (speaking, writing, listening, reading). For assurance, you ask the institution or the company (you are planning to apply to) about the required IELTS module and band score.

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  • jeffjeff Brisbane
    Posts: 26Member
    Joined: Sep 05, 2013
    i have the same case. I got my CPA Australia assessment last Dec 2009. I took my first IELTS but I got 6.5 in writing and reading. Now I took my IELTS General Training. Malalaman ko results on Sept 11. Hopefully mka 7 sa lahat ng band score. Incase b na my below 7 ako,can you advise ano ang magandang gawin? nakakapagod din kasi kumuha ng ielts at magastos din.

    If there's any other option than I can explore with, that would be better. Thanks,

    Jeff Apolinar
  • TasBurrfootTasBurrfoot Osaka
    Posts: 4,336Member
    Joined: Feb 24, 2011
    i have the same case. I got my CPA Australia assessment last Dec 2009. I took my first IELTS but I got 6.5 in writing and reading. Now I took my IELTS General Training. Malalaman ko results on Sept 11. Hopefully mka 7 sa lahat ng band score. Incase b na my below 7 ako,can you advise ano ang magandang gawin? nakakapagod din kasi kumuha ng ielts at magastos din.

    If there's any other option than I can explore with, that would be better. Thanks,

    Jeff Apolinar
    I think non-negotiable ang IELTS requirement; meaning take and take until you get the required score...

    Study harder! ;)

    Primary Applicant: Wife
    Accountant (General): 221111

    04 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module)
    07 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module) Speaking Part
    17 Aug 2012 - IELTS Results (L: 8.5 R: 8.5 W: 7.0 S: 7.5 OBS: 8.0)
    24 Aug 2012 - CPAA Submitted (docs mailed same day via SG EMS)
    25 Sep 2012 - Received +Skills Assessment from CPAA
    25 Sep 2012 - Lodged EOI Application with 70pts
    30 Sep 2012 - Invited by DIAC to apply for 189 Visa
    01 Oct 2012 - Submitted 189 Visa Application
    20 Oct 2012 - Medical Examinations
    23 Oct 2012 - CO Assigned; Team 7 - SA
    05 Nov 2012 - Submitted SG PCC and NBI Clearance
    06 Nov 2012 - Visa Granted (IED: 23/10/2013)
    03 Apr 2013 - Flight to MEL
    03 Jun 2013 - started work
    12 Jun 2013 - wife started work
    15 Jun 2016 - applied for citizenship
    29 Jul 2016 - citizenship examination
    20 Oct 2016 - Aussie, Aussie, Aussie Oi Oi Oi!!

  • michel_75michel_75 Bulacan
    Posts: 409Member
    Joined: Oct 03, 2012
    @jeff hello! wala bang expiration yong assessment result mo?
  • jeffjeff Brisbane
    Posts: 26Member
    Joined: Sep 05, 2013
    Michel ,

    That will expire in Dec 2009. Ng apply ako sa visa 189 khit my below 7 ako and nakakuha na ako ng invitation from DIAC.Nameet ko namn kasi yung 60 points na
  • michel_75michel_75 Bulacan
    Posts: 409Member
    Joined: Oct 03, 2012
    @jeff dec 2009? pero good for you kasi may invitation ka na. Good luck ha.
  • jeffjeff Brisbane
    Posts: 26Member
    Joined: Sep 05, 2013
    @michel_75 sorry Dec 2014. Start n ako mag lodge ng Visa... Inaalam ko lang pano mag attach ng documents kasi wala ako makita sa online evisa nila.... Hopefully maapprove ang Visa ko pag nag submit n ako:)

    Jeff
  • michel_75michel_75 Bulacan
    Posts: 409Member
    Joined: Oct 03, 2012
    @jeff ipagdasal natin yan. yon naman talaga ang gusto nating lahat na mangyari sa ating application kaya magdasal lang tayo talaga para ipagkaloob sa atin eto Good luck and God bless you.
  • rushellpinedarushellpineda San Fernando
    Posts: 11Member
    Joined: Jun 17, 2015
    Hi! Ask ko lang po un kasing assessment austhorities for accountants, required for permanent visa is 7 in all bands, same rin ba ang kailangan sa IELts pg visa 489, isnt temporary lang yun? Thnks.
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