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  • darlingjheng
    Hi, Sunflower.

    I am new to the group and I happened to read a lot of your helpful comments in the forum. Thus, I decided to ask for your advise. :)

    This is regarding credential assessment. Medyo naguguluhan pa kasi ako. I'm a graduate of Bachelor of Arts in English. I took educational units on Secondary Education major in English for a semester; at that time I didn't have practice teaching na because I had had practice teaching in AB English in a university. That practice teaching was credited by PRC. So ayun, after I fortunately passed LET in 2014, I have been a college instructor.

    I'm planning to have my qualifications assessed but I'm not quite sure which organization and how. Could you please give me some advice? I really do not have any ideas about the processes and how to even get it started. I'm actually confused if I qualify for AISTL assessment or not, or baka another assessing organization for ELICOS.

    Pasensya na haba ng post ko. Just badly need help. Thanks ahead. :*
    June 5
    • sunflower
      sunflower
      Hello! Please note that I am NOT a migration agent and that everything I have written here are merely my opinions based on my understanding and experience in the migration process. So here goes.

      Based on the information you've given me, I believe that you can apply for skills assessment as a Secondary School Teacher (ANZSCO 241411), University Lecturer (ANZSCO 242111), or a Teacher of English to Speakers of Other Languages (ANZSCO 249311), which are all found in the combined list of eligible skilled occupations listed here: http://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Work/Work/Skills-assessment-and-assessing-authorities/skilled-occupations-lists/combined-stsol-mltssl

      If you decide to go for Secondary School Teacher, you would need to apply for a skilled assessment from AITSL and submit notarised copies the following requirements (as of 19 April 2017):
      -study assessed by AITSL as comparable to at least four years full-time higher education in Australia
      -45 days of supervised teaching practice with students across the age range of 13-18 years in a secondary school setting
      -IELTS Academic result that shows a score of at least 7.0 for both Reading and Writing and 8.0 for both Speaking and Listening
      -assessment fee of AUD635

      Read more here: https://www.aitsl.edu.au/assessment-for-migration

      If you receive a positive assessment you can apply for a Skilled Occupation Visa (subclass 189), which enables you to become a Permanent Resident and stay in Australia indefinitely.

      On the other hand, for the occupations University Lecturer or Teacher of English to Speakers of Other Languages, the assessment body would be VETASSESS. University Lecturer and Teacher of English to Speakers of Other Languages are both listed under General Occupation and the requirements are:

      -photograph
      -proof of identity
      -qualification evidence
      -employment evidence
      -resume

      Read more here: https://www.vetassess.com.au/skills-assessment-for-migration/general-occupations/required-documents

      Please note though that applying as a University Lecturer would only allow you to have a Temporary Work Visa (subclass 457). I'm not too sure about Teacher of English to Speakers of Other Languages, but since there is no caveat on it in the skilled occupations page, perhaps you can apply for Visa 189 with that.

      I hope this information clarified your questions!
    • darlingjheng
      darlingjheng
      Wow... the info you have provided is more than I expected. I'll search more. Maraming salamat talaga. Hope you live well in Aus. :*
  • angelicious
    @sunflower nung okay na ung application mo. when u got there Nagstudy ka all over again? Ilang months? Roughly how much? Anyway congrats kasi u finally made your big move at working ka na in a span on 2 months i think? Sinusubaybayan ko talaga ung story mo and it encourages us to strive hard
    August 2016
    • sunflower
      sunflower
      Hello! I enrolled in a diploma course from Tafe to be able to work in a childcare centre as a Kindergarten Teacher because my Education degree specialises in Primary Education and not Early Childhood, according to Australian standards. My diploma studies is still ongoing, but overall it would take approximately 18 months, depending on your pace. :)
    • Simplykrish
      Simplykrish
      Hi @sunflower, can't u teach in a primary school with ur degree? Have u tried applying in schools? How about in other states?
    • sunflower
      sunflower
      I'll send you a PM, simplykrish. :)
  • MariaElsa
    Hi! Good day! I am reading some posts in here and so blessed to be in your account and read some of your posts and comments. I hope you are still active. I have some queries regarding visa application and I wish you can help me with some.

    First, I am applying for skilled migrant visa regional (489) the one supported by a family member. I am currently reviewing for my IELTS exam this June. I am a teacher and I am planning to have my qualifications assessed by the AITSL. I have some Primary school teaching experience for 2 years and now currently teaching as a College professor in a university. I am as well a full-pledge Masters Degree holder major in Teaching Science. Do you think I have a chance to be accepted? I really do not know the process and sometimes is doubtful of my application.

    How can I send all my requirements to AITSL? Hard copies right? I hope you can help me. You will be of great help! Thank you so much! You are blessed!
    April 28
    • sunflower
      sunflower
      I'll reply to your PM. :)
  • jmpau
    hello.. pa advise nmn kung paano mkakuha ng 8 sa reading? or meron any other way para mapa assess sa aitls? and pano pala kung major in SPED ako pero 1yr experience in sped and 4yrs experience in pre-school / childcare? should I nominate yun experience ko or as per aitsl yun degree? oh and if possible din after assessment ng aitsl to get a relative to sponsor me for visa 489? ayun.. thank you. any help you can provide or advise will be appreciated. thank you. :)
    March 8
    • jmpau
      jmpau
      ay.. if you can also pm me para sa tips sa ielts in reading.. ;) thank you!!!
    • sunflower
      sunflower
      Hello! To be honest, there is no simple solution to it. I would say practice and practice. There are tons of tips in this thread though and I myself have posted here as well: http://pinoyau.info/discussion/29/share-some-tips-on-ielts/p1

      Regarding your nominated experience, it would have to depend on your degree. If you graduated with a SPED degree, then go that route, otherwise go with the pre-school route. You are assessed based on your degree and not on your experience.
    • jmpau
      jmpau
      hello.. thank you for the update. :)
  • Sai
    Good evening po. I've read that you are based in QLD. I have secured a sponsorship in QLD also and they are asking me to apply for a blue card. I am starting my application for a Blue Card in Queensland and I am on the process of filling up the application form. I have noticed that Parts B, E and F of the application form are supposed to be filled up by the organisation. I have filled up Part E of the application form as I have the proofs of identification with me. However, I don't know to go about Parts B and F. Is it necessary that the organization should be the one to fill up these areas or can I be the one to do it?

    Hope you can help. Thanks.
    February 20
    • sunflower
      sunflower
      Hi Sai, the blue card is not submitted by the individual but by the organisation, yes. So for instance, if you secure a job in a Centre, they will fill out those parts and submit it for you.
  • floro
    Hi Sunflower! Have been reading some of your comments and I see them very helpful. My first time here and I hope you can clarify me on my question. I am a licensed high school teacher, have worked in a public school for 3 years, and now teaching in Jakarta. I will take my IELTS this coming March 18 and have been preparing for it, I hope that since I took up English for my major I can get a sufficient score for an immigration application. My worry is whether Australia will honour my Bachelor in Secondary Education qualification since I earned it from Divine Word College of Vigan (a private college in Vigan, Ilocos Sur). And if so, should I only submit my college diploma and transcript or I need to submit records from High S. and elem? So, if they will not honour my degree, can they at least see the fact that I am already a licensed teacher and have actually been working as one for four years? If they would, what documents should I show apart from my license? TY in advance and God Bless!
    February 2
    • sunflower
      sunflower
      Hi floro,

      The only way to find out if you are qualified or not is to submit the following through AITSL for skills assessment for migration:

      1. Passport identity page
      2. Award certificate for Initial Teacher Education qualification (diploma)
      3. Final Academic Transcript for each year of the initial teacher education qualification
      4. Supervised teaching practice (practicum certificate from your University that includes total duration of supervised teaching practice, ages of students taught, and setting)
      5. IELTS Test Result Form
      6. Payment (AUD600)
      7. Certified passport sized photograph

      Further information can be found here: http://www.aitsl.edu.au/assessment-for-migration

      Hope it was helpful. Good luck!
    • floro
      floro
      Hi! I'd been waiting for your reply, I thought this was going to appear on my page hehe! I didn't know you replied right away, Maraming Salamat po! Will it affect if I will course my application through an agent? Ang mahal Kase ng Respall eh150k last time I inquired eh that was a year ago. One more thing, what is a certified passport photograph?
    • sunflower
      sunflower
      A migration agent isn't necessary at all. I just submitted everything myself. The passport photograph is just a passport-sized picture with a white background. :)
    • floro
      floro
      Thank you sunflower! I put my trust on your advice, thanks so much! Plus, to tell the truth, I can't afford these agencies
    • floro
      floro
      I hope you will continue to answer my queries as I move on with the process. I will message you again as soon as I get my IELTS results.. thank you and God bless you! One more thing, will the be ever a time when I have to pass my license and work experiences?
    • sunflower
      sunflower
      Your certificate of employment will be required once you start applying for the visa, but the license is not necessary. Good luck!
    • floro
      floro
      Thank you! Do you mind posting the dates of your own process so I, more or less, see how long each steps took... again you'd been truly helpful!
    • sunflower
      sunflower
      It should be on my signature in the forum. But otherwise here is my timeline:

      11/Apr/15: IELTS-IDP AU
      29/Apr/15: Received IELTS result (L: 8.5, R: 8.5, W: 7.5, S: 8.0)
      14/May/15: Lodged AITSL application
      28/May/15: AITSL confirmed payment
      14/Jul/15: AITSL completed assessment
      24/Jul/15: AITSL documents delivered
      24/Jul/15: Lodged EOI (60 pts.)
      7/Sept/15: Received ITA from SkillSelect
      19/Sept/15: Lodged Visa 189 (uploaded all docs except medical & F80)
      16/Oct/15: Lodged documents for QCT
      23/Oct/15: QCT sent acknowledgement email
      27/Oct/15: Case Officer was allocated, asked for PCC and F80
      10/Dec/15: Visa Grant
      12/Feb/16: Became a Registered Teacher in QLD
      5/Jun/16: Big Move to Oz
    • floro
      floro
      Thank you! Wow! Ambilis ng process mo, so blessed! Anyways, I just received an email from my school and they said my practice teaching daw did not last for 45 days, tapes per hour daw bilingual nila. Ok Lang Kaya Kung Hindi 45 days ang practice teaching ko or would I be wasting money Kung itutuloy ko sa AITSL ang papers ko ka hit na di sapat practice teaching days ko?
    • floro
      floro
      *tapos per hour daw bilang nila
    • sunflower
      sunflower
      So how many hours/days was your teaching practise? I think the minimum of 45-day supervised teaching practise is a non-negotiable for them.
    • floro
      floro
      Nakikiusap pa ko sa school ko.. Kase daw wala naman daw kami sa practice teaching the whole day... grabe, Sana magkamilagro pa...
    • sunflower
      sunflower
      Keep your fingers crossed! Let us know the decision.
  • mark00
    Hi Sunflower! Been reading some helpful posts here at pinoyau about teachers. I am planning to have an assessment sa AISTL for preschool teacher since siya ang nasa SOL (Visa189). May chance kaya for positive assessment? Bachelor in Elem Educ with concentration in English ang degree ko sa isang state univ. During my practice teaching, I taught Grade1 pupils (6-7 age range) na i think pasok naman sa required na 45 days. Meron ding MA in Educ (Language and Lit). Currently reviewing for IELTS.
    November 2016
    • sunflower
      sunflower
      Hello! Based on the details you gave, pasok ka sa assessment criteria ng AITSL:

      1. Four years higher education study - YES
      2. Supervised teaching practice with students across 0-8 years - YES
      3. IELTS - TO FOLLOW

      I think you would receive a positive assessment, as long as you satisfy the IELTS requirement. :)
    • mark00
      mark00
      Hi sunflower! Salamat sa response. Now I have more motivation to meet the target bands.
    • mark00
      mark00
      By the way, dun sa certification ng supervised teaching, mas safe ba na yung required age range lang ang reflected? In my case kasi I was assigned before sa teacher-training instructor na Gr1 adviser pero aside sa Gr1, may load din cia sa Gr4. Thank you.
    • sunflower
      sunflower
      Not sure about the answer to that question. It's just that if you're applying for a Pre-Primary Education occupation, hindi na sakop ang Grade 4 dun. You could always email AITSL about it?
  • angelicious
    Hi sunflower. Any tips in taking ielts please? Im planning to enroll on an online course satin sa pinas. What do you think? Any legit review centres that u can recommend? I took ielts on 2013 to qualify as L2 teacher here in sg and i merely have to aim a 6.5 band score. naachieve ko yan kaso this time around ang taas ng requirement. Help please. Thank you..
    September 2016
    • angelicious
      angelicious
      2014 pala ako nag take hindi 2013 lol
    • sunflower
      sunflower
      I did a self-review for the Reading and Listening parts kasi right and wrong lang dun. For the Writing and Speaking parts, I enrolled in MSA Institute (Katipunan branch). I interviewed the English teachers there and they said that they personally haven't taken the IELTS. But then again, they are legit English teachers so they gave me a lot of tips in terms of grammar and syntax.
    • angelicious
      angelicious
      thank u Sunflower. Im currently reviewing on my own since aug pa. Will be taking an online course probably by nov para maassess naman ang essays at speaking skills ko. Sa listening ba usually in sequence ung mga tanung dun sa recordings? Sunod sunod ba sya talaga? Nanotice ko lang sya sa mga practice test? Ganun nga ba??
    • sunflower
      sunflower
      Yes, in sequence siya, kaya pwede ka magsagot while listening to the selection.
    • angelicious
      angelicious
      Thank you sunflower. Pumapalya ako sa reading may trick ka ba para sa reading?
    • sunflower
      sunflower
      First off, make sure that you're reviewing using authentic materials. I used the Cambridge English IELTS series for my reviewer.

      Reading tips, hmmmm... I made sure that I don't rush in reading the selection in order to fully understand what it's about. I also made symbols over important words on the reading questionnaire, such as circles for names of persons or squares on dates, etc. So that if there is a question about a person, I'll just scan for the circle marks that I made on the questionnaire and so on.

      For other tips, just read the posts in this thread: http://pinoyau.info/discussion/29/share-some-tips-on-ielts/p1
    • angelicious
      angelicious
      Thank u talaga sis ha.. Such a great help
  • Rhee
    Hi sunflower! I have degree in early childhood ed and im a licensed teacher in Phil and Singapore. Base dun sa reply mo po sa akin, meaning once may valid work visa na ako pwede na ako mag apply sa mga childcare centres? Kc po sabi u teacher registration is not a requirement to work in childcare centres there? Paki enlighten naman po. Salamat ng marami!
    September 2016
    • sunflower
      sunflower
      Your degree will have to be listed and approved by ACECQA on this page: http://www.acecqa.gov.au/qualifications.aspx
      If it isn't there, then you'll have to study either a Cert III/Diploma qualification in order to legally work in a childcare centre.
  • angelicious
    By the way can ask aproximayely how much yung nagastos mo from ielts to assessment to visa lodging.. Thank u..
    August 2016
    • sunflower
      sunflower
      IELTS - $250
      AITSL - $600
      Visa - $3600

      And then some miscellaneous fees for NBI Clearance, Transcripts, etc.
    • angelicious
      angelicious
      Thank you..
  • Sai
    Hi @sunflower May I ask how many days mo nakuha certification mo for registered teacher when you were still here in Philippines? Will it take weeks to arrive?
    September 2016
    • sunflower
      sunflower
      Hello! Naku, more than weeks! I lodged my Queensland College of Teachers (QCT) documents on 16th October 2015 and I officially got my teachers registration on the 12th of February 2016. Medyo matagal ang process kapag overseas ang qualifications mo and they do extensive police background checks rin kasi.
  • Elberdrei
    Hi Sunflower,

    My wife will have her IELTS exam next month. As you know teachers need 7 for both writing and reading and 8 for speaking and listening to pass the AITSL assessment. can you give her pointers and advice? Thanks in advance
    March 2016
    • sunflower
      sunflower
      I'll send you a PM, since my tips are quite long hehe. :)

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