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Visa "trend" questions

Hello! Bale I'm already close to getting my skills assessment outcome (sana talaga mag positive!) and about to do my PTE na next week. Hopefully before November ends, makapag-EOI na ako.

Just want to set my expectations for the 189 and 190 visas:

1) Pre-pandemic po ba, ano ang trending when it comes to receiving ITA? Ilang months normally?
2) Sa mga inabutan ng pandemic, gaano po katagal kayo before naka-receive ng ITA? Grant? Offshore/onshore?
3) I've already asked this before pero I want to get more insights dun sa mga less competitive na occupations (non-pro-rata). Ano pong ang mga points niyo and gaano kayo katagal nakatanggap ng invite?
4) If you could also share some insights/observances na napansin niyo sa trending ng invites, that would be great!

Thank you in advance! :smile:

Started my Australian visa journey: Jul 2021

2021

  • Jul 01: Since I'm DIYing it, I started learning the whole process
  • Aug 05: Identified my occupation in the skills list; ended up choosing Statistician (224113) because it's the most relevant
  • Aug 18: VETASSESS -- Started collecting all of the necessary documents needed for skills assessment
  • Sep 12: VETASSESS -- Submitted my application to VETASSESS
  • Sep 14: VETASSESS -- Status changed to "Lodged"
  • Sep 16: VETASSESS -- They asked for a clearer copy of my diploma
  • Sep 20: VETASSESS -- Status changed to "In Progress"
  • Oct 04: PTE -- Booked my exam schedule
  • Nov 18: PTE -- Exam date; also on the same day (after an hour), I received my results -- SUPERIOR! (L90,R82,S90,W90)
  • Dec 04: VETASSESS -- Status changed to "Completed"; I received my outcome letter -- POSITIVE!
  • Dec 05: EOI -- Finally lodged the following: 189 (70) | 190 (75)
  • ---

2022

  • Mar 19: Earned +5 because of moving to the next work experience bracket: 189 (75) | 190 (80)
  • May 06: Earned +5 because of moving to the next age bracket: 189 (80) | 190 (85)
  • Aug 11: SUBMITTED ROI -- Victoria's state sponsorship just opened!
  • Oct 26: RECEIVED PRE-INVITE -- Waaaaaah!
  • Nov 08: NOMINATION APPROVED & RECEIVED MY 190 ITA FROM DHA!!!
  • Nov 11: APPLICATION LODGED AND PAID!!! -- Submitted together with NBI Clearance and Form 80
  • Nov 17: Medicals day
  • Nov 23: MEDICALS CLEARED
  • ---

2023

  • Mar 06: VISA GRANT!!! -- I have no words. Hay grabe talaga
  • July 02: BIG MOVE!!! -- THIS IS IT!!!
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  • hikarihikari Australia
    Posts: 249Member
    Joined: May 29, 2018

    hi @mariusinbrisbane you can check this link:
    https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia/skillselect/invitation-rounds

    1. pre pandemic, every month sila nagiinvite for 189. pero ngayon every quarter na. Sa 190 naman, depende sa state e.
    2. during pandemic, puro onshore lang usually na naiinvite at mostly yung occup nasa PMSOL. base sa mga nakikita ko previously, more on medical occup yung kadalasan na naiinvite.
    3. For non pro-rata, as far as I know, basta nasa PMSOL ka, mas may chance ka mainvite especially kung nasa medical occup ka. Pero disclaimer din, hindi lahat ng nasa pmsol naiinivite madalas. like sa occup ko, nasa pmsol ako pero bihira invites samin. Others can correct me on this. Depende kasi sa occup mo e. pero simula pandemic puro onshore and usually medical occup lang may invites.
    4. During pandemic, mas dumami invites ng 491 so you might want to consider that as well.
    mariusinbrisbane

    Master of Software Engineering

    Jun 2018 Started AU Dreams
    Aug 2018 Started inquiring about Student Visa pathway - AECC Global and KOKOS International
    30-Aug-18 Got an offer with a full scholarship from Macquarie University Course: Master of Information Technology | Application Date: August 20, 2018
    14-Sep-18 Got a conditional offer from Deakin University | Course: Grad Cert + Master IT | Application Date: August 20, 2018
    10-Oct-18 1st PTE-A Exam
    15-Oct-18 Got a full offer from Deakin University
    20-Nov-18 Tuition Fee Payment
    23-Nov-18 Received CoE from Deakin University
    27-Nov-18 Insurance Payment (Medibank)
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    12-Dec-18 Student Visa lodgement
    14-Dec-18 CO asked an additional de facto documents (Evidence of same home address)
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    Aug 2019 First Day in Uni Adelaide

  • RheaMARN1171933RheaMARN1171933 Posts: 2,760Member, Administrator, Moderator
    Joined: Mar 10, 2016

    @hikari said:
    hi @mariusinbrisbane you can check this link:
    https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia/skillselect/invitation-rounds

    1. pre pandemic, every month sila nagiinvite for 189. pero ngayon every quarter na. Sa 190 naman, depende sa state e.
    2. during pandemic, puro onshore lang usually na naiinvite at mostly yung occup nasa PMSOL. base sa mga nakikita ko previously, more on medical occup yung kadalasan na naiinvite.
    3. For non pro-rata, as far as I know, basta nasa PMSOL ka, mas may chance ka mainvite especially kung nasa medical occup ka. Pero disclaimer din, hindi lahat ng nasa pmsol naiinivite madalas. like sa occup ko, nasa pmsol ako pero bihira invites samin. Others can correct me on this. Depende kasi sa occup mo e. pero simula pandemic puro onshore and usually medical occup lang may invites.
    4. During pandemic, mas dumami invites ng 491 so you might want to consider that as well.

    Just for clarification

    1. Pre- pandemic it was nearly impossible to be granted a 189 visa unless you have very very high points. Migration agents would likely divert clients for 491 visa as that’s the most feasible pathway for offshore applicants
    2. The PMSOL is more often than not for 482 visa applications. Offshore applications are not prioritised, hence no invites are issued
    3. Right now points aren’t really relevant for offshore as you can’t base your strategy on this - no one gets invited! Though South Australia has opened its nominations for offshore for some occupations but subject to meeting requirements - that’s definitely a positive development
    4. As mentioned no invites for offshore - that’s the trend. More 491 applications pre-pandemic days - that’s always been the case in the last 3-4 years already. 190 was more for onshore applications. At present, the aim is to maximise points and Lodge the EOI ASAP as that’s likely to increase your chances of inviting soo er when things go back to normality
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  • mariusinbrisbanemariusinbrisbane Posts: 312Member
    Joined: Aug 04, 2021

    @hikari said:
    hi @mariusinbrisbane you can check this link:
    https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia/skillselect/invitation-rounds

    1. pre pandemic, every month sila nagiinvite for 189. pero ngayon every quarter na. Sa 190 naman, depende sa state e.
    2. during pandemic, puro onshore lang usually na naiinvite at mostly yung occup nasa PMSOL. base sa mga nakikita ko previously, more on medical occup yung kadalasan na naiinvite.
    3. For non pro-rata, as far as I know, basta nasa PMSOL ka, mas may chance ka mainvite especially kung nasa medical occup ka. Pero disclaimer din, hindi lahat ng nasa pmsol naiinivite madalas. like sa occup ko, nasa pmsol ako pero bihira invites samin. Others can correct me on this. Depende kasi sa occup mo e. pero simula pandemic puro onshore and usually medical occup lang may invites.
    4. During pandemic, mas dumami invites ng 491 so you might want to consider that as well.

    Thank you po for these insights!

    Started my Australian visa journey: Jul 2021

    2021

    • Jul 01: Since I'm DIYing it, I started learning the whole process
    • Aug 05: Identified my occupation in the skills list; ended up choosing Statistician (224113) because it's the most relevant
    • Aug 18: VETASSESS -- Started collecting all of the necessary documents needed for skills assessment
    • Sep 12: VETASSESS -- Submitted my application to VETASSESS
    • Sep 14: VETASSESS -- Status changed to "Lodged"
    • Sep 16: VETASSESS -- They asked for a clearer copy of my diploma
    • Sep 20: VETASSESS -- Status changed to "In Progress"
    • Oct 04: PTE -- Booked my exam schedule
    • Nov 18: PTE -- Exam date; also on the same day (after an hour), I received my results -- SUPERIOR! (L90,R82,S90,W90)
    • Dec 04: VETASSESS -- Status changed to "Completed"; I received my outcome letter -- POSITIVE!
    • Dec 05: EOI -- Finally lodged the following: 189 (70) | 190 (75)
    • ---

    2022

    • Mar 19: Earned +5 because of moving to the next work experience bracket: 189 (75) | 190 (80)
    • May 06: Earned +5 because of moving to the next age bracket: 189 (80) | 190 (85)
    • Aug 11: SUBMITTED ROI -- Victoria's state sponsorship just opened!
    • Oct 26: RECEIVED PRE-INVITE -- Waaaaaah!
    • Nov 08: NOMINATION APPROVED & RECEIVED MY 190 ITA FROM DHA!!!
    • Nov 11: APPLICATION LODGED AND PAID!!! -- Submitted together with NBI Clearance and Form 80
    • Nov 17: Medicals day
    • Nov 23: MEDICALS CLEARED
    • ---

    2023

    • Mar 06: VISA GRANT!!! -- I have no words. Hay grabe talaga
    • July 02: BIG MOVE!!! -- THIS IS IT!!!
  • mariusinbrisbanemariusinbrisbane Posts: 312Member
    Joined: Aug 04, 2021

    Just for clarification

    1. Pre- pandemic it was nearly impossible to be granted a 189 visa unless you have very very high points. Migration agents would likely divert clients for 491 visa as that’s the most feasible pathway for offshore applicants
    2. The PMSOL is more often than not for 482 visa applications. Offshore applications are not prioritised, hence no invites are issued
    3. Right now points aren’t really relevant for offshore as you can’t base your strategy on this - no one gets invited! Though South Australia has opened its nominations for offshore for some occupations but subject to meeting requirements - that’s definitely a positive development
    4. As mentioned no invites for offshore - that’s the trend. More 491 applications pre-pandemic days - that’s always been the case in the last 3-4 years already. 190 was more for onshore applications. At present, the aim is to maximise points and Lodge the EOI ASAP as that’s likely to increase your chances of inviting soo er when things go back to normality

    Thank you po for these insights! I'm seeing lots of articles pertaining to AU discussing na the comeback of skilled migration, even doubling it to boost the economic recovery of AU. Sa tingin niyo po, would they ease the criteria in the points system?

    Started my Australian visa journey: Jul 2021

    2021

    • Jul 01: Since I'm DIYing it, I started learning the whole process
    • Aug 05: Identified my occupation in the skills list; ended up choosing Statistician (224113) because it's the most relevant
    • Aug 18: VETASSESS -- Started collecting all of the necessary documents needed for skills assessment
    • Sep 12: VETASSESS -- Submitted my application to VETASSESS
    • Sep 14: VETASSESS -- Status changed to "Lodged"
    • Sep 16: VETASSESS -- They asked for a clearer copy of my diploma
    • Sep 20: VETASSESS -- Status changed to "In Progress"
    • Oct 04: PTE -- Booked my exam schedule
    • Nov 18: PTE -- Exam date; also on the same day (after an hour), I received my results -- SUPERIOR! (L90,R82,S90,W90)
    • Dec 04: VETASSESS -- Status changed to "Completed"; I received my outcome letter -- POSITIVE!
    • Dec 05: EOI -- Finally lodged the following: 189 (70) | 190 (75)
    • ---

    2022

    • Mar 19: Earned +5 because of moving to the next work experience bracket: 189 (75) | 190 (80)
    • May 06: Earned +5 because of moving to the next age bracket: 189 (80) | 190 (85)
    • Aug 11: SUBMITTED ROI -- Victoria's state sponsorship just opened!
    • Oct 26: RECEIVED PRE-INVITE -- Waaaaaah!
    • Nov 08: NOMINATION APPROVED & RECEIVED MY 190 ITA FROM DHA!!!
    • Nov 11: APPLICATION LODGED AND PAID!!! -- Submitted together with NBI Clearance and Form 80
    • Nov 17: Medicals day
    • Nov 23: MEDICALS CLEARED
    • ---

    2023

    • Mar 06: VISA GRANT!!! -- I have no words. Hay grabe talaga
    • July 02: BIG MOVE!!! -- THIS IS IT!!!
  • RheaMARN1171933RheaMARN1171933 Posts: 2,760Member, Administrator, Moderator
    Joined: Mar 10, 2016

    @mariusinbrisbane said:

    Just for clarification

    1. Pre- pandemic it was nearly impossible to be granted a 189 visa unless you have very very high points. Migration agents would likely divert clients for 491 visa as that’s the most feasible pathway for offshore applicants
    2. The PMSOL is more often than not for 482 visa applications. Offshore applications are not prioritised, hence no invites are issued
    3. Right now points aren’t really relevant for offshore as you can’t base your strategy on this - no one gets invited! Though South Australia has opened its nominations for offshore for some occupations but subject to meeting requirements - that’s definitely a positive development
    4. As mentioned no invites for offshore - that’s the trend. More 491 applications pre-pandemic days - that’s always been the case in the last 3-4 years already. 190 was more for onshore applications. At present, the aim is to maximise points and Lodge the EOI ASAP as that’s likely to increase your chances of inviting soo er when things go back to normality

    Thank you po for these insights! I'm seeing lots of articles pertaining to AU discussing na the comeback of skilled migration, even doubling it to boost the economic recovery of AU. Sa tingin niyo po, would they ease the criteria in the points system?

    Nothing has been officially announced nor spoken about points so can’t really comment about the easing of points until it comes from DHA

  • mariusinbrisbanemariusinbrisbane Posts: 312Member
    Joined: Aug 04, 2021

    Nothing has been officially announced nor spoken about points so can’t really comment about the easing of points until it comes from DHA

    Okay po thank you!

    Started my Australian visa journey: Jul 2021

    2021

    • Jul 01: Since I'm DIYing it, I started learning the whole process
    • Aug 05: Identified my occupation in the skills list; ended up choosing Statistician (224113) because it's the most relevant
    • Aug 18: VETASSESS -- Started collecting all of the necessary documents needed for skills assessment
    • Sep 12: VETASSESS -- Submitted my application to VETASSESS
    • Sep 14: VETASSESS -- Status changed to "Lodged"
    • Sep 16: VETASSESS -- They asked for a clearer copy of my diploma
    • Sep 20: VETASSESS -- Status changed to "In Progress"
    • Oct 04: PTE -- Booked my exam schedule
    • Nov 18: PTE -- Exam date; also on the same day (after an hour), I received my results -- SUPERIOR! (L90,R82,S90,W90)
    • Dec 04: VETASSESS -- Status changed to "Completed"; I received my outcome letter -- POSITIVE!
    • Dec 05: EOI -- Finally lodged the following: 189 (70) | 190 (75)
    • ---

    2022

    • Mar 19: Earned +5 because of moving to the next work experience bracket: 189 (75) | 190 (80)
    • May 06: Earned +5 because of moving to the next age bracket: 189 (80) | 190 (85)
    • Aug 11: SUBMITTED ROI -- Victoria's state sponsorship just opened!
    • Oct 26: RECEIVED PRE-INVITE -- Waaaaaah!
    • Nov 08: NOMINATION APPROVED & RECEIVED MY 190 ITA FROM DHA!!!
    • Nov 11: APPLICATION LODGED AND PAID!!! -- Submitted together with NBI Clearance and Form 80
    • Nov 17: Medicals day
    • Nov 23: MEDICALS CLEARED
    • ---

    2023

    • Mar 06: VISA GRANT!!! -- I have no words. Hay grabe talaga
    • July 02: BIG MOVE!!! -- THIS IS IT!!!
  • mamertzmamertz Burnie, Tasmania
    Posts: 98Member
    Joined: Oct 12, 2012

    Hello po. Try ko magbigay ng aking observations.
    Di ko na sasagutin ng per-bullet point, pero I hope this helps.

    Nag-apply ako noong 2018-2019, pre-pandemic. Back then, naabutan ko pa ang fornightly invitations.
    And kung pro-rata ka, expect 70 is good enough to get an invite quickly.

    Then shortly after, naging monthly ang invitation In my case, I had 65 points nung nagsubmit ako EOI last June 2018. Updated the system to reflect ang higher PTE score ko ng January 9. On Jan 11 2019, I received my ITA. And just three months after that, napansin ko na hindi na rin enough ang 75 to get invites based sa napansin kong trends.

    In short, the trend doesn't look good. Nababawasan ang frequency ng invites and number of invites.
    Lumala pa nung dumating ang COVID. More on onshores ang grants and more on health-related professions.

    March 21, 2018 Registered for IELTS
    April 20, 21, 2018 Took IELTS
    May 3, 2018 Received IELTS results L8 R9 W7 S7

    Jun 8, 2018 Submitted EA application
    Jul 9,2018 Received positive outcome

    Jul 9 , 2018 Submitted EOI - 65 points

    Dec 19, 2018 Took PTE
    Dec 20, 2018 received Results L81, R90, S90, W85

    Jan 8, 2019 Updated EOI - 75 points
    Jan 11, 2019 invited

    Feb 9, 2019 Visa application submitted
    Aprill 11, 2019 Praise God. Direct Grant.

    Nov 9, 2019 Big Move

  • mariusinbrisbanemariusinbrisbane Posts: 312Member
    Joined: Aug 04, 2021

    @mamertz thank you po for this!

    Grabe talaga yung trend when it comes sa points. Sobrang taas na ngayon ng requirement. Yung mga pro-rata naman umaabot na ng mga 95 ang minimum dapat to get ITA.

    And grabe nagstart pala yan sa fortnightly, naging monthly, tapos ngayon quarterly na.

    Started my Australian visa journey: Jul 2021

    2021

    • Jul 01: Since I'm DIYing it, I started learning the whole process
    • Aug 05: Identified my occupation in the skills list; ended up choosing Statistician (224113) because it's the most relevant
    • Aug 18: VETASSESS -- Started collecting all of the necessary documents needed for skills assessment
    • Sep 12: VETASSESS -- Submitted my application to VETASSESS
    • Sep 14: VETASSESS -- Status changed to "Lodged"
    • Sep 16: VETASSESS -- They asked for a clearer copy of my diploma
    • Sep 20: VETASSESS -- Status changed to "In Progress"
    • Oct 04: PTE -- Booked my exam schedule
    • Nov 18: PTE -- Exam date; also on the same day (after an hour), I received my results -- SUPERIOR! (L90,R82,S90,W90)
    • Dec 04: VETASSESS -- Status changed to "Completed"; I received my outcome letter -- POSITIVE!
    • Dec 05: EOI -- Finally lodged the following: 189 (70) | 190 (75)
    • ---

    2022

    • Mar 19: Earned +5 because of moving to the next work experience bracket: 189 (75) | 190 (80)
    • May 06: Earned +5 because of moving to the next age bracket: 189 (80) | 190 (85)
    • Aug 11: SUBMITTED ROI -- Victoria's state sponsorship just opened!
    • Oct 26: RECEIVED PRE-INVITE -- Waaaaaah!
    • Nov 08: NOMINATION APPROVED & RECEIVED MY 190 ITA FROM DHA!!!
    • Nov 11: APPLICATION LODGED AND PAID!!! -- Submitted together with NBI Clearance and Form 80
    • Nov 17: Medicals day
    • Nov 23: MEDICALS CLEARED
    • ---

    2023

    • Mar 06: VISA GRANT!!! -- I have no words. Hay grabe talaga
    • July 02: BIG MOVE!!! -- THIS IS IT!!!
  • MLBSMLBS Manila
    Posts: 972Member
    Joined: Sep 11, 2016
    edited November 2021

    @mariusinbrisbane said:
    @mamertz thank you po for this!

    Grabe talaga yung trend when it comes sa points. Sobrang taas na ngayon ng requirement. Yung mga pro-rata naman umaabot na ng mga 95 ang minimum dapat to get ITA.

    And grabe nagstart pala yan sa fortnightly, naging monthly, tapos ngayon quarterly na.

    When I got all my docs ready for lodging back in 2017, 65 pts lang need for 189. I was 22 back then so ang max na nakuha ko is 60 pts. Imagine my frustration when the only thing na magawa ko is wait for 3 years to turn 25 para 65 pts na ako, pero of course the invites got extremely competitive by that time. I was joking to my mom na dapat pinanganak nya ako mas maaga lol

    233411 Electronics Engineer (Age-30, Educ-15,English proficiency-20, NAATI - 5, Single, - 10 Relative sponsorship - 15)
    95 pts total


    2017


    June 3, 2017 = Graduated from College
    July 8, 2017 = Took IELTS GT
    July 21, 2017 = received IELTS results (LRWS = 8/9/7.5/7)
    August 11, 2017 = Lodged EA assessment (Fast track)
    September 6, 2017 = Received positive EA assessment, lodged EOI (489 Family sponsored - 60 pts)
    September 21, 2017 = Took PTE exam
    September 22, 2017 = Received PTE results (LRSW- 90/90/90/90), lodged 189 EOI (60 pts), updated 489 FS EOI (70 pts)
    September 26, 2017 = Lodged 190 EOI (NSW) 65 pts


    2018


    1 year wait... still no EOI invite. Decided to pursue student visa instead

    Course: Cert IV and Diploma - Work Health and Safety (DNA Kingston)

    October 15, 2018 = offer letter from school
    November 8, 2018 = Medical exam (St. Lukes)
    November 20, 2018 = Paid for tuition
    Novemeber 28, 2018 = Received COE
    December 2, 2018 = Lodged visa, after 1 min, granted!


    2019


    Feb 4 2019 = arrived to Perth


    2020


    Jan 2020 = Age increased to 30 pts
    Jan 20 2020 = Took NAATI
    Jan 26 2020 = Results for NAATI (passed) +5 pts
    Jan 27 2020 = lodged EOI 491 Family
    Feb 10 2020 = invited finally!
    Oct 8 2020 = 491 granted


    2023


    Oct 8 2023 = 191 Lodged
    Oct 30 2023 = 191 granted

  • mariusinbrisbanemariusinbrisbane Posts: 312Member
    Joined: Aug 04, 2021

    @MLBS What happened po? Nung 2017 po ba nagstart na 65 points ang minimum? Dati alam ko 60 lang need eh.

    Started my Australian visa journey: Jul 2021

    2021

    • Jul 01: Since I'm DIYing it, I started learning the whole process
    • Aug 05: Identified my occupation in the skills list; ended up choosing Statistician (224113) because it's the most relevant
    • Aug 18: VETASSESS -- Started collecting all of the necessary documents needed for skills assessment
    • Sep 12: VETASSESS -- Submitted my application to VETASSESS
    • Sep 14: VETASSESS -- Status changed to "Lodged"
    • Sep 16: VETASSESS -- They asked for a clearer copy of my diploma
    • Sep 20: VETASSESS -- Status changed to "In Progress"
    • Oct 04: PTE -- Booked my exam schedule
    • Nov 18: PTE -- Exam date; also on the same day (after an hour), I received my results -- SUPERIOR! (L90,R82,S90,W90)
    • Dec 04: VETASSESS -- Status changed to "Completed"; I received my outcome letter -- POSITIVE!
    • Dec 05: EOI -- Finally lodged the following: 189 (70) | 190 (75)
    • ---

    2022

    • Mar 19: Earned +5 because of moving to the next work experience bracket: 189 (75) | 190 (80)
    • May 06: Earned +5 because of moving to the next age bracket: 189 (80) | 190 (85)
    • Aug 11: SUBMITTED ROI -- Victoria's state sponsorship just opened!
    • Oct 26: RECEIVED PRE-INVITE -- Waaaaaah!
    • Nov 08: NOMINATION APPROVED & RECEIVED MY 190 ITA FROM DHA!!!
    • Nov 11: APPLICATION LODGED AND PAID!!! -- Submitted together with NBI Clearance and Form 80
    • Nov 17: Medicals day
    • Nov 23: MEDICALS CLEARED
    • ---

    2023

    • Mar 06: VISA GRANT!!! -- I have no words. Hay grabe talaga
    • July 02: BIG MOVE!!! -- THIS IS IT!!!
  • MLBSMLBS Manila
    Posts: 972Member
    Joined: Sep 11, 2016

    @mariusinbrisbane said:
    @MLBS What happened po? Nung 2017 po ba nagstart na 65 points ang minimum? Dati alam ko 60 lang need eh.

    Yes 60 lang minimum nun pero 65 was enough to be invited. If I remember correctly they raised the minimum to 65 back in 2019. I was even checking the invites dati sa immi website for 2016 and 60 lang need nun. For the last 5 years hindi na bumaba ang pts for invite, always tumataas yearly.

    233411 Electronics Engineer (Age-30, Educ-15,English proficiency-20, NAATI - 5, Single, - 10 Relative sponsorship - 15)
    95 pts total


    2017


    June 3, 2017 = Graduated from College
    July 8, 2017 = Took IELTS GT
    July 21, 2017 = received IELTS results (LRWS = 8/9/7.5/7)
    August 11, 2017 = Lodged EA assessment (Fast track)
    September 6, 2017 = Received positive EA assessment, lodged EOI (489 Family sponsored - 60 pts)
    September 21, 2017 = Took PTE exam
    September 22, 2017 = Received PTE results (LRSW- 90/90/90/90), lodged 189 EOI (60 pts), updated 489 FS EOI (70 pts)
    September 26, 2017 = Lodged 190 EOI (NSW) 65 pts


    2018


    1 year wait... still no EOI invite. Decided to pursue student visa instead

    Course: Cert IV and Diploma - Work Health and Safety (DNA Kingston)

    October 15, 2018 = offer letter from school
    November 8, 2018 = Medical exam (St. Lukes)
    November 20, 2018 = Paid for tuition
    Novemeber 28, 2018 = Received COE
    December 2, 2018 = Lodged visa, after 1 min, granted!


    2019


    Feb 4 2019 = arrived to Perth


    2020


    Jan 2020 = Age increased to 30 pts
    Jan 20 2020 = Took NAATI
    Jan 26 2020 = Results for NAATI (passed) +5 pts
    Jan 27 2020 = lodged EOI 491 Family
    Feb 10 2020 = invited finally!
    Oct 8 2020 = 491 granted


    2023


    Oct 8 2023 = 191 Lodged
    Oct 30 2023 = 191 granted

  • mariusinbrisbanemariusinbrisbane Posts: 312Member
    Joined: Aug 04, 2021

    @MLBS Matindi po ba competition sa occupation niyo, based sa trends?

    Started my Australian visa journey: Jul 2021

    2021

    • Jul 01: Since I'm DIYing it, I started learning the whole process
    • Aug 05: Identified my occupation in the skills list; ended up choosing Statistician (224113) because it's the most relevant
    • Aug 18: VETASSESS -- Started collecting all of the necessary documents needed for skills assessment
    • Sep 12: VETASSESS -- Submitted my application to VETASSESS
    • Sep 14: VETASSESS -- Status changed to "Lodged"
    • Sep 16: VETASSESS -- They asked for a clearer copy of my diploma
    • Sep 20: VETASSESS -- Status changed to "In Progress"
    • Oct 04: PTE -- Booked my exam schedule
    • Nov 18: PTE -- Exam date; also on the same day (after an hour), I received my results -- SUPERIOR! (L90,R82,S90,W90)
    • Dec 04: VETASSESS -- Status changed to "Completed"; I received my outcome letter -- POSITIVE!
    • Dec 05: EOI -- Finally lodged the following: 189 (70) | 190 (75)
    • ---

    2022

    • Mar 19: Earned +5 because of moving to the next work experience bracket: 189 (75) | 190 (80)
    • May 06: Earned +5 because of moving to the next age bracket: 189 (80) | 190 (85)
    • Aug 11: SUBMITTED ROI -- Victoria's state sponsorship just opened!
    • Oct 26: RECEIVED PRE-INVITE -- Waaaaaah!
    • Nov 08: NOMINATION APPROVED & RECEIVED MY 190 ITA FROM DHA!!!
    • Nov 11: APPLICATION LODGED AND PAID!!! -- Submitted together with NBI Clearance and Form 80
    • Nov 17: Medicals day
    • Nov 23: MEDICALS CLEARED
    • ---

    2023

    • Mar 06: VISA GRANT!!! -- I have no words. Hay grabe talaga
    • July 02: BIG MOVE!!! -- THIS IS IT!!!
  • MLBSMLBS Manila
    Posts: 972Member
    Joined: Sep 11, 2016

    @mariusinbrisbane said:
    @MLBS Matindi po ba competition sa occupation niyo, based sa trends?

    I'd say competitive. Pro rata ang electronics engineering since 2016 until now. Hindi na kasi nag apply ang rules from years back, ngayon kahit gano ako kataas sa pts di na ako maiinvite simply because they don't invite certain occupations now, kahit 90 pts na ang meron ako because of AU regional study. Ang laban is hindi na sa pts, it's the occupation it seems.

    233411 Electronics Engineer (Age-30, Educ-15,English proficiency-20, NAATI - 5, Single, - 10 Relative sponsorship - 15)
    95 pts total


    2017


    June 3, 2017 = Graduated from College
    July 8, 2017 = Took IELTS GT
    July 21, 2017 = received IELTS results (LRWS = 8/9/7.5/7)
    August 11, 2017 = Lodged EA assessment (Fast track)
    September 6, 2017 = Received positive EA assessment, lodged EOI (489 Family sponsored - 60 pts)
    September 21, 2017 = Took PTE exam
    September 22, 2017 = Received PTE results (LRSW- 90/90/90/90), lodged 189 EOI (60 pts), updated 489 FS EOI (70 pts)
    September 26, 2017 = Lodged 190 EOI (NSW) 65 pts


    2018


    1 year wait... still no EOI invite. Decided to pursue student visa instead

    Course: Cert IV and Diploma - Work Health and Safety (DNA Kingston)

    October 15, 2018 = offer letter from school
    November 8, 2018 = Medical exam (St. Lukes)
    November 20, 2018 = Paid for tuition
    Novemeber 28, 2018 = Received COE
    December 2, 2018 = Lodged visa, after 1 min, granted!


    2019


    Feb 4 2019 = arrived to Perth


    2020


    Jan 2020 = Age increased to 30 pts
    Jan 20 2020 = Took NAATI
    Jan 26 2020 = Results for NAATI (passed) +5 pts
    Jan 27 2020 = lodged EOI 491 Family
    Feb 10 2020 = invited finally!
    Oct 8 2020 = 491 granted


    2023


    Oct 8 2023 = 191 Lodged
    Oct 30 2023 = 191 granted

  • mariusinbrisbanemariusinbrisbane Posts: 312Member
    Joined: Aug 04, 2021

    I'd say competitive. Pro rata ang electronics engineering since 2016 until now. Hindi na kasi nag apply ang rules from years back, ngayon kahit gano ako kataas sa pts di na ako maiinvite simply because they don't invite certain occupations now, kahit 90 pts na ang meron ako because of AU regional study. Ang laban is hindi na sa pts, it's the occupation it seems.

    Ang sad naman kung ganun nga, like focused lang sila sa iilang occupations. Naglagay pa sila ng listahan, joke HAHA!

    MLBS

    Started my Australian visa journey: Jul 2021

    2021

    • Jul 01: Since I'm DIYing it, I started learning the whole process
    • Aug 05: Identified my occupation in the skills list; ended up choosing Statistician (224113) because it's the most relevant
    • Aug 18: VETASSESS -- Started collecting all of the necessary documents needed for skills assessment
    • Sep 12: VETASSESS -- Submitted my application to VETASSESS
    • Sep 14: VETASSESS -- Status changed to "Lodged"
    • Sep 16: VETASSESS -- They asked for a clearer copy of my diploma
    • Sep 20: VETASSESS -- Status changed to "In Progress"
    • Oct 04: PTE -- Booked my exam schedule
    • Nov 18: PTE -- Exam date; also on the same day (after an hour), I received my results -- SUPERIOR! (L90,R82,S90,W90)
    • Dec 04: VETASSESS -- Status changed to "Completed"; I received my outcome letter -- POSITIVE!
    • Dec 05: EOI -- Finally lodged the following: 189 (70) | 190 (75)
    • ---

    2022

    • Mar 19: Earned +5 because of moving to the next work experience bracket: 189 (75) | 190 (80)
    • May 06: Earned +5 because of moving to the next age bracket: 189 (80) | 190 (85)
    • Aug 11: SUBMITTED ROI -- Victoria's state sponsorship just opened!
    • Oct 26: RECEIVED PRE-INVITE -- Waaaaaah!
    • Nov 08: NOMINATION APPROVED & RECEIVED MY 190 ITA FROM DHA!!!
    • Nov 11: APPLICATION LODGED AND PAID!!! -- Submitted together with NBI Clearance and Form 80
    • Nov 17: Medicals day
    • Nov 23: MEDICALS CLEARED
    • ---

    2023

    • Mar 06: VISA GRANT!!! -- I have no words. Hay grabe talaga
    • July 02: BIG MOVE!!! -- THIS IS IT!!!
  • MLBSMLBS Manila
    Posts: 972Member
    Joined: Sep 11, 2016
    edited November 2021

    @mariusinbrisbane said:

    I'd say competitive. Pro rata ang electronics engineering since 2016 until now. Hindi na kasi nag apply ang rules from years back, ngayon kahit gano ako kataas sa pts di na ako maiinvite simply because they don't invite certain occupations now, kahit 90 pts na ang meron ako because of AU regional study. Ang laban is hindi na sa pts, it's the occupation it seems.

    Ang sad naman kung ganun nga, like focused lang sila sa iilang occupations. Naglagay pa sila ng listahan, joke HAHA!

    haha yeah it sucks, pero nothing we can do except adjust. Buti nalang ginawa ko tong AU journey agad agad, I know that people 4 yrs ago probably didn't take me seriously when I said I wanted to migrate to Australia haha. Fresh graduate ako nun pero I'd say that this is the best decision of my life.

    caspersushi24silverbullet

    233411 Electronics Engineer (Age-30, Educ-15,English proficiency-20, NAATI - 5, Single, - 10 Relative sponsorship - 15)
    95 pts total


    2017


    June 3, 2017 = Graduated from College
    July 8, 2017 = Took IELTS GT
    July 21, 2017 = received IELTS results (LRWS = 8/9/7.5/7)
    August 11, 2017 = Lodged EA assessment (Fast track)
    September 6, 2017 = Received positive EA assessment, lodged EOI (489 Family sponsored - 60 pts)
    September 21, 2017 = Took PTE exam
    September 22, 2017 = Received PTE results (LRSW- 90/90/90/90), lodged 189 EOI (60 pts), updated 489 FS EOI (70 pts)
    September 26, 2017 = Lodged 190 EOI (NSW) 65 pts


    2018


    1 year wait... still no EOI invite. Decided to pursue student visa instead

    Course: Cert IV and Diploma - Work Health and Safety (DNA Kingston)

    October 15, 2018 = offer letter from school
    November 8, 2018 = Medical exam (St. Lukes)
    November 20, 2018 = Paid for tuition
    Novemeber 28, 2018 = Received COE
    December 2, 2018 = Lodged visa, after 1 min, granted!


    2019


    Feb 4 2019 = arrived to Perth


    2020


    Jan 2020 = Age increased to 30 pts
    Jan 20 2020 = Took NAATI
    Jan 26 2020 = Results for NAATI (passed) +5 pts
    Jan 27 2020 = lodged EOI 491 Family
    Feb 10 2020 = invited finally!
    Oct 8 2020 = 491 granted


    2023


    Oct 8 2023 = 191 Lodged
    Oct 30 2023 = 191 granted

  • mamertzmamertz Burnie, Tasmania
    Posts: 98Member
    Joined: Oct 12, 2012

    @MLBS said:

    @mariusinbrisbane said:
    @MLBS What happened po? Nung 2017 po ba nagstart na 65 points ang minimum? Dati alam ko 60 lang need eh.

    Yes 60 lang minimum nun pero 65 was enough to be invited. If I remember correctly they raised the minimum to 65 back in 2019. I was even checking the invites dati sa immi website for 2016 and 60 lang need nun. For the last 5 years hindi na bumaba ang pts for invite, always tumataas yearly.

    Opo. 60 pts minimum lang noon. Nung nag apply ako ng 2018, naging 65 ang minimum. Tapos naging monthly na ang invites. That time, 70 pts naman ang required to get invited quickly.

    Then , mga 2nd quarter ng 2019 , yung 70 pts di na rin enough . EVentually naging quarterly na ang invites.

    Hopefully, after this pandemic magbalik ang lahat sa normal gaya ng dati.

    MLBSmariusinbrisbane

    March 21, 2018 Registered for IELTS
    April 20, 21, 2018 Took IELTS
    May 3, 2018 Received IELTS results L8 R9 W7 S7

    Jun 8, 2018 Submitted EA application
    Jul 9,2018 Received positive outcome

    Jul 9 , 2018 Submitted EOI - 65 points

    Dec 19, 2018 Took PTE
    Dec 20, 2018 received Results L81, R90, S90, W85

    Jan 8, 2019 Updated EOI - 75 points
    Jan 11, 2019 invited

    Feb 9, 2019 Visa application submitted
    Aprill 11, 2019 Praise God. Direct Grant.

    Nov 9, 2019 Big Move

  • EricTCEricTC Posts: 157Member
    Joined: Jun 12, 2021

    Would you guys think na may chance for invite ang 85pts for a "non" pro rata occupation? I am a civil engineer and based on my research nasa top 16 sya na may mataas na ceiling invitation.

    Would you think 85pts is enough (visa 189) or I still need to increase it to 90 pts? Pinag-iisipan ko pa kasi if I will take the CCL exam.

    Thank you!

    233214 - Structural Engineer
    visa 189 = 85pts | visa 190 = 90pts | visa 491 = 100pts
    ..
    Timeline:
    08/06/2021 - Contacted an Immigration Agent
    11/06/2021 - Preparation of Initial Documents (including 3 Career Episode Essays, SS etc.)
    25/08/2021 - Completion of all Initial Documents
    05/09/2021 - Start of PTE Academic Review (English Exam)
    30/10/2021 - PTE Academic Exam & Results ( L:90 | R:83 | S:90| W:90 ) Superior, First-Time Test Taker
    04/11/2021 - EA Skills Assessment submitted for 233214 - Structural Engineer
    23/11/2021 - Positive EA Skills Assessment outcome
    25/11/2021 - EOI submitted
    Around January 2022 - ROI submitted (RDA Sydney NSW) - not invited
    Around March 2022 - ROI submitted (Northern Rivers NSW)
    08/04/2022 - Pre-invite Received (Northern Rivers NSW)
    06/05/2022 - Received ITA (Northern Rivers NSW)
    13/06/2022 - Visa Lodged
    17/06/2022 - Health Examinations (Medical)
    30/06/2022 - Biometrics
    19/08/2022 - Visa Grant (Wooohooo! To God be all the glory!)
    22/09/2022 - Got Polio Vaccination Certificate from RHU
    10/10/2022 - Got Covid Vaccination Certificate online
    17/10/2022 - Secured a short-term accommodation in my regional area while offshore ($200 AUD incl. bills)
    06/11/2022 - Secured a long-term accommodation in my regional area while offshore ($180 AUD incl. bills)
    17/11/2022 - Big MOVE 2022
    ..
    PTE Exam Complete Preparation Guide:
    https://tinyurl.com/PTEPreparationGuide
    ..
    How I got an Australian visa in a span of 1.2 years
    https://tinyurl.com/HowIGotAnAustralianVisa
    ..
    Follow my YouTube channel for glimpse of regional Australia:
    https://tinyurl.com/YouTubeShortsEricTC
    ..
    James 1:5-6
    (New International Version)
    5 If any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to you.
    6 But when you ask, you must believe and not doubt, because the one who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind.
    ..
    Testimony: God is always one step ahead.

  • RheaMARN1171933RheaMARN1171933 Posts: 2,760Member, Administrator, Moderator
    Joined: Mar 10, 2016

    @mamertz said:

    @MLBS said:

    @mariusinbrisbane said:
    @MLBS What happened po? Nung 2017 po ba nagstart na 65 points ang minimum? Dati alam ko 60 lang need eh.

    Yes 60 lang minimum nun pero 65 was enough to be invited. If I remember correctly they raised the minimum to 65 back in 2019. I was even checking the invites dati sa immi website for 2016 and 60 lang need nun. For the last 5 years hindi na bumaba ang pts for invite, always tumataas yearly.

    Opo. 60 pts minimum lang noon. Nung nag apply ako ng 2018, naging 65 ang minimum. Tapos naging monthly na ang invites. That time, 70 pts naman ang required to get invited quickly.

    Then , mga 2nd quarter ng 2019 , yung 70 pts di na rin enough . EVentually naging quarterly na ang invites.

    Hopefully, after this pandemic magbalik ang lahat sa normal gaya ng dati.

    You all need to understand, the trend you all are discussing is a temporary trend due to the covid situation. No one can expect invite right now if you’re offshore because it’s not a priority at the moment. Best you can do now is maximise the points you could get and lodge the EOI ASAP so you’re in the queue. There really is no point understanding how much points needed for an invite or how often invites happen - monthly, quarterly etc because these are not applicable right now if you’re offshore. The best strategy is be document ready to prepare when things go back to normal - with Australia slowly opening borders, we are getting there.

    mariusinbrisbane
  • RheaMARN1171933RheaMARN1171933 Posts: 2,760Member, Administrator, Moderator
    Joined: Mar 10, 2016

    @EricTC said:
    Would you guys think na may chance for invite ang 85pts for a "non" pro rata occupation? I am a civil engineer and based on my research nasa top 16 sya na may mataas na ceiling invitation.

    Would you think 85pts is enough (visa 189) or I still need to increase it to 90 pts? Pinag-iisipan ko pa kasi if I will take the CCL exam.

    Thank you!

    If you’re offshore no chance right now.

  • mariusinbrisbanemariusinbrisbane Posts: 312Member
    Joined: Aug 04, 2021

    @EricTC said:
    Would you guys think na may chance for invite ang 85pts for a "non" pro rata occupation? I am a civil engineer and based on my research nasa top 16 sya na may mataas na ceiling invitation.

    Would you think 85pts is enough (visa 189) or I still need to increase it to 90 pts? Pinag-iisipan ko pa kasi if I will take the CCL exam.

    Thank you!

    Actually ako I'm nominating Statistician (224113) and walang competition sa occupation na yun, I guess okay yun? Haha! The maximum points I can get (for now) is 70 points. Early next year magkaka +10 ako for age and work experience, reaching 80 points.

    Actually pinagiisipan ko din yung NAATI. Pero naisip ko, with all the current news ngayon sa Australia na may balak na silang ibalik yung migration pathway PLUS a "surge" in migrants (December daw, not sure), may mga nagsasabi na baka i-ease nila yung criteria for skilled visa or bilisan yung pag-invite. Kasi nga daw, yun yung sagot nila for post-pandemic recovery. Pero syempre take their words with a grain of salt, kasi di naman natin mappredict yung mga ganyan. Yung news source ko is Channel AMEC and also yung mga reputable news articles.

    I hope totoo nga. Ang mahal din kasi ng NAATI kung tutuusin.

    Started my Australian visa journey: Jul 2021

    2021

    • Jul 01: Since I'm DIYing it, I started learning the whole process
    • Aug 05: Identified my occupation in the skills list; ended up choosing Statistician (224113) because it's the most relevant
    • Aug 18: VETASSESS -- Started collecting all of the necessary documents needed for skills assessment
    • Sep 12: VETASSESS -- Submitted my application to VETASSESS
    • Sep 14: VETASSESS -- Status changed to "Lodged"
    • Sep 16: VETASSESS -- They asked for a clearer copy of my diploma
    • Sep 20: VETASSESS -- Status changed to "In Progress"
    • Oct 04: PTE -- Booked my exam schedule
    • Nov 18: PTE -- Exam date; also on the same day (after an hour), I received my results -- SUPERIOR! (L90,R82,S90,W90)
    • Dec 04: VETASSESS -- Status changed to "Completed"; I received my outcome letter -- POSITIVE!
    • Dec 05: EOI -- Finally lodged the following: 189 (70) | 190 (75)
    • ---

    2022

    • Mar 19: Earned +5 because of moving to the next work experience bracket: 189 (75) | 190 (80)
    • May 06: Earned +5 because of moving to the next age bracket: 189 (80) | 190 (85)
    • Aug 11: SUBMITTED ROI -- Victoria's state sponsorship just opened!
    • Oct 26: RECEIVED PRE-INVITE -- Waaaaaah!
    • Nov 08: NOMINATION APPROVED & RECEIVED MY 190 ITA FROM DHA!!!
    • Nov 11: APPLICATION LODGED AND PAID!!! -- Submitted together with NBI Clearance and Form 80
    • Nov 17: Medicals day
    • Nov 23: MEDICALS CLEARED
    • ---

    2023

    • Mar 06: VISA GRANT!!! -- I have no words. Hay grabe talaga
    • July 02: BIG MOVE!!! -- THIS IS IT!!!
  • EricTCEricTC Posts: 157Member
    Joined: Jun 12, 2021

    @mariusinbrisbane said:

    @EricTC said:
    Would you guys think na may chance for invite ang 85pts for a "non" pro rata occupation? I am a civil engineer and based on my research nasa top 16 sya na may mataas na ceiling invitation.

    Would you think 85pts is enough (visa 189) or I still need to increase it to 90 pts? Pinag-iisipan ko pa kasi if I will take the CCL exam.

    Thank you!

    Actually ako I'm nominating Statistician (224113) and walang competition sa occupation na yun, I guess okay yun? Haha! The maximum points I can get (for now) is 70 points. Early next year magkaka +10 ako for age and work experience, reaching 80 points.

    Actually pinagiisipan ko din yung NAATI. Pero naisip ko, with all the current news ngayon sa Australia na may balak na silang ibalik yung migration pathway PLUS a "surge" in migrants (December daw, not sure), may mga nagsasabi na baka i-ease nila yung criteria for skilled visa or bilisan yung pag-invite. Kasi nga daw, yun yung sagot nila for post-pandemic recovery. Pero syempre take their words with a grain of salt, kasi di naman natin mappredict yung mga ganyan. Yung news source ko is Channel AMEC and also yung mga reputable news articles.

    I hope totoo nga. Ang mahal din kasi ng NAATI kung tutuusin.

    Oo nga po. Ang mahal po ng NAATI, very significant din po yung payment for the crash course.
    I'll wait nalang din po on how the year 2022 unfold.

    Let's all wait and pray for God's provision. :)

    233214 - Structural Engineer
    visa 189 = 85pts | visa 190 = 90pts | visa 491 = 100pts
    ..
    Timeline:
    08/06/2021 - Contacted an Immigration Agent
    11/06/2021 - Preparation of Initial Documents (including 3 Career Episode Essays, SS etc.)
    25/08/2021 - Completion of all Initial Documents
    05/09/2021 - Start of PTE Academic Review (English Exam)
    30/10/2021 - PTE Academic Exam & Results ( L:90 | R:83 | S:90| W:90 ) Superior, First-Time Test Taker
    04/11/2021 - EA Skills Assessment submitted for 233214 - Structural Engineer
    23/11/2021 - Positive EA Skills Assessment outcome
    25/11/2021 - EOI submitted
    Around January 2022 - ROI submitted (RDA Sydney NSW) - not invited
    Around March 2022 - ROI submitted (Northern Rivers NSW)
    08/04/2022 - Pre-invite Received (Northern Rivers NSW)
    06/05/2022 - Received ITA (Northern Rivers NSW)
    13/06/2022 - Visa Lodged
    17/06/2022 - Health Examinations (Medical)
    30/06/2022 - Biometrics
    19/08/2022 - Visa Grant (Wooohooo! To God be all the glory!)
    22/09/2022 - Got Polio Vaccination Certificate from RHU
    10/10/2022 - Got Covid Vaccination Certificate online
    17/10/2022 - Secured a short-term accommodation in my regional area while offshore ($200 AUD incl. bills)
    06/11/2022 - Secured a long-term accommodation in my regional area while offshore ($180 AUD incl. bills)
    17/11/2022 - Big MOVE 2022
    ..
    PTE Exam Complete Preparation Guide:
    https://tinyurl.com/PTEPreparationGuide
    ..
    How I got an Australian visa in a span of 1.2 years
    https://tinyurl.com/HowIGotAnAustralianVisa
    ..
    Follow my YouTube channel for glimpse of regional Australia:
    https://tinyurl.com/YouTubeShortsEricTC
    ..
    James 1:5-6
    (New International Version)
    5 If any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to you.
    6 But when you ask, you must believe and not doubt, because the one who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind.
    ..
    Testimony: God is always one step ahead.

  • Desert_CowboyDesert_Cowboy Port Macquarie
    Posts: 187Member
    Joined: Mar 15, 2019

    @EricTC said:
    Would you guys think na may chance for invite ang 85pts for a "non" pro rata occupation? I am a civil engineer and based on my research nasa top 16 sya na may mataas na ceiling invitation.

    Would you think 85pts is enough (visa 189) or I still need to increase it to 90 pts? Pinag-iisipan ko pa kasi if I will take the CCL exam.

    Thank you!

    Try mo ung 491 state sponsored. Nainvite ako 75+15 491 FS last October.

    234611 MEDICAL LABORATORY SCIENTIST

    491 FS : 90 pts
    Age: 30
    Experience: 10
    Degree: 15
    English : 20
    Sponsor: 15
    Assessing Authority: AIMS

    TIMELINE
    25 June 2016 ----------- IELTS exam (L: 7.5 R: 8.5 W: 6.5 S: 6.5) 7.5 overall
    25 February 2019 -----------Documents for First stage Assessment sent to AIMS through Philpost
    4 March 2019 -----------Documents for First stage Assessment received by AIMS
    3 May 2019 -----------First stage Assessment result received
    5 September 2019 -----------Second Stage Assessment (Examination) in Riyadh
    12 November 2019 -----------AIMS examination result received (Passed)
    11 October 2020 -----------PTE exam (Superior R:90 S:90 L: 90 W:90) I can't believe this
    12 October 2020 -----------EOI submitted (491, 190, 189)
    14 November 2020 -----------EOI updated (+5 points due to additional experience)
    29 October 2021 ------------EOI for visa 491 Family Sponsored invited. I was aiming for 189 but I can't let this pass. Its
    now or never. Passport used for EOI expired.
    6 December 2021 -----------Passport renewed
    8 December 2021 -----------491 Visa lodged
    5 January 2022 -----------Medicals
    15 February 2022 ------------ VISA GRANTED! Family of 6 - Direct grant.
    A long journey, but a longer journey ahead. Keep the faith!

  • RheaMARN1171933RheaMARN1171933 Posts: 2,760Member, Administrator, Moderator
    Joined: Mar 10, 2016

    @Desert_Cowboy said:

    @EricTC said:
    Would you guys think na may chance for invite ang 85pts for a "non" pro rata occupation? I am a civil engineer and based on my research nasa top 16 sya na may mataas na ceiling invitation.

    Would you think 85pts is enough (visa 189) or I still need to increase it to 90 pts? Pinag-iisipan ko pa kasi if I will take the CCL exam.

    Thank you!

    Try mo ung 491 state sponsored. Nainvite ako 75+15 491 FS last October.

    491 has always been the most feasible way for offshore even before pandemic. We were already diverting clients via this subclass even before

  • mariusinbrisbanemariusinbrisbane Posts: 312Member
    Joined: Aug 04, 2021

    Oo nga po. Ang mahal po ng NAATI, very significant din po yung payment for the crash course.
    I'll wait nalang din po on how the year 2022 unfold.

    Let's all wait and pray for God's provision. :)

    Sobra po, all for 5 points. Ako din eh, in the middle of self-discussion ako about this HAHA! Ang next available schedule is on March 2022 na, pero not sure, baka by that time, biglang dumami na yung migrants na naggrant-an ng visas, sayang naman kung ganun.

    Started my Australian visa journey: Jul 2021

    2021

    • Jul 01: Since I'm DIYing it, I started learning the whole process
    • Aug 05: Identified my occupation in the skills list; ended up choosing Statistician (224113) because it's the most relevant
    • Aug 18: VETASSESS -- Started collecting all of the necessary documents needed for skills assessment
    • Sep 12: VETASSESS -- Submitted my application to VETASSESS
    • Sep 14: VETASSESS -- Status changed to "Lodged"
    • Sep 16: VETASSESS -- They asked for a clearer copy of my diploma
    • Sep 20: VETASSESS -- Status changed to "In Progress"
    • Oct 04: PTE -- Booked my exam schedule
    • Nov 18: PTE -- Exam date; also on the same day (after an hour), I received my results -- SUPERIOR! (L90,R82,S90,W90)
    • Dec 04: VETASSESS -- Status changed to "Completed"; I received my outcome letter -- POSITIVE!
    • Dec 05: EOI -- Finally lodged the following: 189 (70) | 190 (75)
    • ---

    2022

    • Mar 19: Earned +5 because of moving to the next work experience bracket: 189 (75) | 190 (80)
    • May 06: Earned +5 because of moving to the next age bracket: 189 (80) | 190 (85)
    • Aug 11: SUBMITTED ROI -- Victoria's state sponsorship just opened!
    • Oct 26: RECEIVED PRE-INVITE -- Waaaaaah!
    • Nov 08: NOMINATION APPROVED & RECEIVED MY 190 ITA FROM DHA!!!
    • Nov 11: APPLICATION LODGED AND PAID!!! -- Submitted together with NBI Clearance and Form 80
    • Nov 17: Medicals day
    • Nov 23: MEDICALS CLEARED
    • ---

    2023

    • Mar 06: VISA GRANT!!! -- I have no words. Hay grabe talaga
    • July 02: BIG MOVE!!! -- THIS IS IT!!!
  • mamertzmamertz Burnie, Tasmania
    Posts: 98Member
    Joined: Oct 12, 2012

    @RheaMARN1171933 said:

    @mamertz said:

    @MLBS said:

    @mariusinbrisbane said:
    @MLBS What happened po? Nung 2017 po ba nagstart na 65 points ang minimum? Dati alam ko 60 lang need eh.

    Yes 60 lang minimum nun pero 65 was enough to be invited. If I remember correctly they raised the minimum to 65 back in 2019. I was even checking the invites dati sa immi website for 2016 and 60 lang need nun. For the last 5 years hindi na bumaba ang pts for invite, always tumataas yearly.

    Opo. 60 pts minimum lang noon. Nung nag apply ako ng 2018, naging 65 ang minimum. Tapos naging monthly na ang invites. That time, 70 pts naman ang required to get invited quickly.

    Then , mga 2nd quarter ng 2019 , yung 70 pts di na rin enough . EVentually naging quarterly na ang invites.

    Hopefully, after this pandemic magbalik ang lahat sa normal gaya ng dati.

    You all need to understand, the trend you all are discussing is a temporary trend due to the covid situation. No one can expect invite right now if you’re offshore because it’s not a priority at the moment. Best you can do now is maximise the points you could get and lodge the EOI ASAP so you’re in the queue. There really is no point understanding how much points needed for an invite or how often invites happen - monthly, quarterly etc because these are not applicable right now if you’re offshore. The best strategy is be document ready to prepare when things go back to normal - with Australia slowly opening borders, we are getting there.

    Part of the original question po is about pre-pandemic trend. Yun po ang sinikap kong sagutin.
    My answers and other answers may not be relevant to the current situation, but we are just answering what the OP is asking (or at least part of it).

    hikari

    March 21, 2018 Registered for IELTS
    April 20, 21, 2018 Took IELTS
    May 3, 2018 Received IELTS results L8 R9 W7 S7

    Jun 8, 2018 Submitted EA application
    Jul 9,2018 Received positive outcome

    Jul 9 , 2018 Submitted EOI - 65 points

    Dec 19, 2018 Took PTE
    Dec 20, 2018 received Results L81, R90, S90, W85

    Jan 8, 2019 Updated EOI - 75 points
    Jan 11, 2019 invited

    Feb 9, 2019 Visa application submitted
    Aprill 11, 2019 Praise God. Direct Grant.

    Nov 9, 2019 Big Move

  • RheaMARN1171933RheaMARN1171933 Posts: 2,760Member, Administrator, Moderator
    Joined: Mar 10, 2016

    @mamertz said:

    @RheaMARN1171933 said:

    @mamertz said:

    @MLBS said:

    @mariusinbrisbane said:
    @MLBS What happened po? Nung 2017 po ba nagstart na 65 points ang minimum? Dati alam ko 60 lang need eh.

    Yes 60 lang minimum nun pero 65 was enough to be invited. If I remember correctly they raised the minimum to 65 back in 2019. I was even checking the invites dati sa immi website for 2016 and 60 lang need nun. For the last 5 years hindi na bumaba ang pts for invite, always tumataas yearly.

    Opo. 60 pts minimum lang noon. Nung nag apply ako ng 2018, naging 65 ang minimum. Tapos naging monthly na ang invites. That time, 70 pts naman ang required to get invited quickly.

    Then , mga 2nd quarter ng 2019 , yung 70 pts di na rin enough . EVentually naging quarterly na ang invites.

    Hopefully, after this pandemic magbalik ang lahat sa normal gaya ng dati.

    You all need to understand, the trend you all are discussing is a temporary trend due to the covid situation. No one can expect invite right now if you’re offshore because it’s not a priority at the moment. Best you can do now is maximise the points you could get and lodge the EOI ASAP so you’re in the queue. There really is no point understanding how much points needed for an invite or how often invites happen - monthly, quarterly etc because these are not applicable right now if you’re offshore. The best strategy is be document ready to prepare when things go back to normal - with Australia slowly opening borders, we are getting there.

    Part of the original question po is about pre-pandemic trend. Yun po ang sinikap kong sagutin.
    My answers and other answers may not be relevant to the current situation, but we are just answering what the OP is asking (or at least part of it).

    Wasn’t referring to you particularly I just replied addressing all who made comments. Was also referring to comments about trends right now and not to trend pre pandemic. The purpose of the comment was to appease members here and guide them to the best direction possible right now and wasn’t meant to be directed at you or cause offence. I don’t think I negated what the things you mentioned but rather added up more insights to what is relevant right now. We’re all here to help.

  • mamertzmamertz Burnie, Tasmania
    Posts: 98Member
    Joined: Oct 12, 2012

    @RheaMARN1171933 said:

    @mamertz said:

    @RheaMARN1171933 said:

    @mamertz said:

    @MLBS said:

    @mariusinbrisbane said:
    @MLBS What happened po? Nung 2017 po ba nagstart na 65 points ang minimum? Dati alam ko 60 lang need eh.

    Yes 60 lang minimum nun pero 65 was enough to be invited. If I remember correctly they raised the minimum to 65 back in 2019. I was even checking the invites dati sa immi website for 2016 and 60 lang need nun. For the last 5 years hindi na bumaba ang pts for invite, always tumataas yearly.

    Opo. 60 pts minimum lang noon. Nung nag apply ako ng 2018, naging 65 ang minimum. Tapos naging monthly na ang invites. That time, 70 pts naman ang required to get invited quickly.

    Then , mga 2nd quarter ng 2019 , yung 70 pts di na rin enough . EVentually naging quarterly na ang invites.

    Hopefully, after this pandemic magbalik ang lahat sa normal gaya ng dati.

    You all need to understand, the trend you all are discussing is a temporary trend due to the covid situation. No one can expect invite right now if you’re offshore because it’s not a priority at the moment. Best you can do now is maximise the points you could get and lodge the EOI ASAP so you’re in the queue. There really is no point understanding how much points needed for an invite or how often invites happen - monthly, quarterly etc because these are not applicable right now if you’re offshore. The best strategy is be document ready to prepare when things go back to normal - with Australia slowly opening borders, we are getting there.

    Part of the original question po is about pre-pandemic trend. Yun po ang sinikap kong sagutin.
    My answers and other answers may not be relevant to the current situation, but we are just answering what the OP is asking (or at least part of it).

    Wasn’t referring to you particularly I just replied addressing all who made comments. Was also referring to comments about trends right now and not to trend pre pandemic. The purpose of the comment was to appease members here and guide them to the best direction possible right now and wasn’t meant to be directed at you or cause offence. I don’t think I negated what the things you mentioned but rather added up more insights to what is relevant right now. We’re all here to help.

    No worries po. You actually quoted my response kasi, kaya naturally it would seem na para sa akin yun. Salamat po and God bless.

    March 21, 2018 Registered for IELTS
    April 20, 21, 2018 Took IELTS
    May 3, 2018 Received IELTS results L8 R9 W7 S7

    Jun 8, 2018 Submitted EA application
    Jul 9,2018 Received positive outcome

    Jul 9 , 2018 Submitted EOI - 65 points

    Dec 19, 2018 Took PTE
    Dec 20, 2018 received Results L81, R90, S90, W85

    Jan 8, 2019 Updated EOI - 75 points
    Jan 11, 2019 invited

    Feb 9, 2019 Visa application submitted
    Aprill 11, 2019 Praise God. Direct Grant.

    Nov 9, 2019 Big Move

  • mariusinbrisbanemariusinbrisbane Posts: 312Member
    Joined: Aug 04, 2021

    Commenting again to promote this post. Just want to get more insights from people in general regarding the trend. Thanks!

    Started my Australian visa journey: Jul 2021

    2021

    • Jul 01: Since I'm DIYing it, I started learning the whole process
    • Aug 05: Identified my occupation in the skills list; ended up choosing Statistician (224113) because it's the most relevant
    • Aug 18: VETASSESS -- Started collecting all of the necessary documents needed for skills assessment
    • Sep 12: VETASSESS -- Submitted my application to VETASSESS
    • Sep 14: VETASSESS -- Status changed to "Lodged"
    • Sep 16: VETASSESS -- They asked for a clearer copy of my diploma
    • Sep 20: VETASSESS -- Status changed to "In Progress"
    • Oct 04: PTE -- Booked my exam schedule
    • Nov 18: PTE -- Exam date; also on the same day (after an hour), I received my results -- SUPERIOR! (L90,R82,S90,W90)
    • Dec 04: VETASSESS -- Status changed to "Completed"; I received my outcome letter -- POSITIVE!
    • Dec 05: EOI -- Finally lodged the following: 189 (70) | 190 (75)
    • ---

    2022

    • Mar 19: Earned +5 because of moving to the next work experience bracket: 189 (75) | 190 (80)
    • May 06: Earned +5 because of moving to the next age bracket: 189 (80) | 190 (85)
    • Aug 11: SUBMITTED ROI -- Victoria's state sponsorship just opened!
    • Oct 26: RECEIVED PRE-INVITE -- Waaaaaah!
    • Nov 08: NOMINATION APPROVED & RECEIVED MY 190 ITA FROM DHA!!!
    • Nov 11: APPLICATION LODGED AND PAID!!! -- Submitted together with NBI Clearance and Form 80
    • Nov 17: Medicals day
    • Nov 23: MEDICALS CLEARED
    • ---

    2023

    • Mar 06: VISA GRANT!!! -- I have no words. Hay grabe talaga
    • July 02: BIG MOVE!!! -- THIS IS IT!!!
  • ispidprikispidprik Posts: 143Member
    Joined: Apr 16, 2020

    I guess atm we can only hope that it goes well and more offshore grants be given out. Its quite hard to establish a trend at this point in time due to our situation and with sudden changes in policies.

    mariusinbrisbane
  • Desert_CowboyDesert_Cowboy Port Macquarie
    Posts: 187Member
    Joined: Mar 15, 2019

    @RheaMARN1171933 said:

    @hikari said:
    hi @mariusinbrisbane you can check this link:
    https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia/skillselect/invitation-rounds

    1. pre pandemic, every month sila nagiinvite for 189. pero ngayon every quarter na. Sa 190 naman, depende sa state e.
    2. during pandemic, puro onshore lang usually na naiinvite at mostly yung occup nasa PMSOL. base sa mga nakikita ko previously, more on medical occup yung kadalasan na naiinvite.
    3. For non pro-rata, as far as I know, basta nasa PMSOL ka, mas may chance ka mainvite especially kung nasa medical occup ka. Pero disclaimer din, hindi lahat ng nasa pmsol naiinivite madalas. like sa occup ko, nasa pmsol ako pero bihira invites samin. Others can correct me on this. Depende kasi sa occup mo e. pero simula pandemic puro onshore and usually medical occup lang may invites.
    4. During pandemic, mas dumami invites ng 491 so you might want to consider that as well.

    Just for clarification

    1. Pre- pandemic it was nearly impossible to be granted a 189 visa unless you have very very high points. Migration agents would likely divert clients for 491 visa as that’s the most feasible pathway for offshore applicants
    2. The PMSOL is more often than not for 482 visa applications. Offshore applications are not prioritised, hence no invites are issued
    3. Right now points aren’t really relevant for offshore as you can’t base your strategy on this - no one gets invited! Though South Australia has opened its nominations for offshore for some occupations but subject to meeting requirements - that’s definitely a positive development
    4. As mentioned no invites for offshore - that’s the trend. More 491 applications pre-pandemic days - that’s always been the case in the last 3-4 years already. 190 was more for onshore applications. At present, the aim is to maximise points and Lodge the EOI ASAP as that’s likely to increase your chances of inviting soo er when things go back to normality

    1 is so true. Pre pandemic, only people with 90 points and above are being invited. I did a lot of research, read forums and followed the invitation rounds. This is the reason why I delayed taking PTE and be able to submit my EOI. I was at 50 pts and taking PTE could increase my points to 70 in which will allow me to submit my EOI. I lose hope and forgot about my dream. I waited for a year because of this so called "trend". A very big mistake. Pandemic happens last March 2020. By September 2020, almost 300 Medical Lab Scientist were invited for 189 visa with 65 minimum points. I was shocked I couldn't believe it. If you were reading the forums during this time, you would also believe there's no way people below 90 points will be invited. This drove me to sit for PTE on October 2020. I passed it and lodged my EOI immediately at 70 pts. November 2020, my points increased by 5 pts due to additional experience. October 29, 2021 I got invited for 491 FS (offshore) at 75+15 pts.

    I settled for less and lose so much time due to this "trend". It would be a different case if I'd hired an agent. She/He would have pushed me to sit for English exam ASAP. I believe I knew so much from my readings and research that I don't need one. A costly mistake.
    Here's my advice to you. Do not base your applications on "trends" as DHA is unpredictable. Now they are inviting 90, next round they could be inviting 65.
    Lodge your EOI ASAP and wait. I'm sharing this so you could learn from my experience.

    caspersushi24mathilde9ispidprikmariusinbrisbanemamertzAuroraAustralisera222

    234611 MEDICAL LABORATORY SCIENTIST

    491 FS : 90 pts
    Age: 30
    Experience: 10
    Degree: 15
    English : 20
    Sponsor: 15
    Assessing Authority: AIMS

    TIMELINE
    25 June 2016 ----------- IELTS exam (L: 7.5 R: 8.5 W: 6.5 S: 6.5) 7.5 overall
    25 February 2019 -----------Documents for First stage Assessment sent to AIMS through Philpost
    4 March 2019 -----------Documents for First stage Assessment received by AIMS
    3 May 2019 -----------First stage Assessment result received
    5 September 2019 -----------Second Stage Assessment (Examination) in Riyadh
    12 November 2019 -----------AIMS examination result received (Passed)
    11 October 2020 -----------PTE exam (Superior R:90 S:90 L: 90 W:90) I can't believe this
    12 October 2020 -----------EOI submitted (491, 190, 189)
    14 November 2020 -----------EOI updated (+5 points due to additional experience)
    29 October 2021 ------------EOI for visa 491 Family Sponsored invited. I was aiming for 189 but I can't let this pass. Its
    now or never. Passport used for EOI expired.
    6 December 2021 -----------Passport renewed
    8 December 2021 -----------491 Visa lodged
    5 January 2022 -----------Medicals
    15 February 2022 ------------ VISA GRANTED! Family of 6 - Direct grant.
    A long journey, but a longer journey ahead. Keep the faith!

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